Cotto vs. Canelo verbal deal reached (if Cotto beats Geale)

This is a bunch of bullshit dude is the mw champ yet he has not faced the real champ what kinda of shit is that dude. Hope gets his ass kicked Trout style so the divsion can have a real champ like it should. GGG going to be waiting for ever at this point and that is just bs no repsect for it at all.

Hard to respect Cotto but have to assume that he is all about making money and taking minimal risks.

this isnt a fore gone conclusion

geales miles bigger than cotto

would cotto Sturm be a miss match?

i am a cotto fan, always have been but i dont reckon he would last a couple of rounds with golovkin

Geale v Cotto is an evenly matched fight

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Generally I don't have a problem with catchweights but even I think this is frigging bollocks. If you're gonna masquerade as the middleweight champ then the opponent should at least be allowed to weigh 160.

There's no penalty clause if Geale comes in above 157. So if he weighs in at 160 the WBC would still have to recognize the fight. Would Cotto/Roc Nation pull the plug? (stolen from Steve Kim)

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Cotto's people are idiots for not having a penalty in the contract and Geale is an idiot if he doesn't come in at 160.

The Wbc has already said that they will allow Cotto to skip over the Kazak once the Geale fight is done and make the fight with Alvarez as long as the winner agrees via contract to fight the Kazak next. You see there is always an end justifies the means rule with the Wbc.

What does this mean exactly? It means Geale will need a ko to get a decision and even that could end in controversy. Anything at all takes place and you can be rest assured that it favours Cotto no matter what it is. I mean imagine if Geale wins?????? The beast from the east already demolished him. He becomes a bigger paper belt holder then Cotto and the money trail goes cold. Whats the Wbc going to do then? Your super duper lineal champion was already pulverized by the regular one.

Eh i think Cotto has a great chance to lose it was not to long ago that Trout beat his ass and then the division can get back on track. I really don't a champ that not going to face the best in the divsion because whats the fucking point then might as well not have the belt.

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Originally Posted by Mr140

This is a bunch of bullshit dude is the mw champ yet he has not faced the real champ what kinda of shit is that dude. Hope gets his ass kicked Trout style so the divsion can have a real champ like it should. GGG going to be waiting for ever at this point and that is just bs no repsect for it at all.

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I hope you don't hang yourself when Cotto beats Geale. ;)

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Generally I don't have a problem with catchweights but even I think this is frigging bollocks. If you're gonna masquerade as the middleweight champ then the opponent should at least be allowed to weigh 160.

There's no penalty clause if Geale comes in above 157. So if he weighs in at 160 the WBC would still have to recognize the fight. Would Cotto/Roc Nation pull the plug? (stolen from Steve Kim)

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That's been my problem with them all along. The exception has been becoming the rule for the simplest of "gimme" fights. Used as a technicality to ensure co champs retain the marketing tag regardless of outcome, trumped up as showcases or in Rod Salkas case...a well orchestrated infomercial set up. Catchweight Cotto is bringing it to near embarrassment with this insisting on having it both ways. You either step up fully or you don't. We have jumped the shark with catchweights..its fookin lunacy ;D

If Geale comes in at 160 and manages to beat Cotto I will laugh my balls off. I really will. It'll be the best result since Maidana did Broner.

Well its a long shot for the guy so i am not counting on it but Trout beat Cotto ass so maybe who knows. Also you seem awful ok with Cotto fighting some weak ass shit after getting the belt and ducking GGG strait up when he is the champ. Wonder why you are letting it go this time let me think about it if it was Pac or Mayweather ducking then its a big deal but Cotto strait up ducks the best guy in his division as lineal champ. This is the first time he has ever been Lineal champ and he fucking ducks the best guy in the division in GGG thats kinda bullshit is it not.

I'D RATHER SEE GGG VS CANELO AND WINNER GETS COTTO!!! Cotto has put many years into boxing I think about 14 years or so but has fought the best possible his whole career.

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Originally Posted by Mr140

This is a bunch of bullshit dude is the mw champ yet he has not faced the real champ what kinda of shit is that dude. Hope gets his ass kicked Trout style so the divsion can have a real champ like it should. GGG going to be waiting for ever at this point and that is just bs no repsect for it at all.

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He already beat the real champ, which means Cotto is the real champ. Golovkin never beat the man in the division yet you're calling him the real champ because he has a superb knockout ratio. I genuinely think it's dumb to be hating on a guy who's had one fight at Middleweight and beaten the guy who was #1 to do it. Geale is his 2nd fight at the weight FFS. There guys such as Peter Quillin who have always fought at Middleweight who won't go near a fucking live body at their own weightclass who don't receive as much hate as this.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

So that just makes it OK, than right? Anyway for you to say I'm "slagging" Cotto cuz of his nationality is 100% inaccurate. I'm "slagging" him for refusing to face Alvarez. You make Cotto Japanese or from the UK and I promise you I'm coming down on him just the same for not facing Alvarez.

All this hating on Alvarez opposition is ridiculous. And it shows ignorance. True boxing fans regard his early opposition as on the job training. Once he learned what he had to learn he's done what he can to take on the best. Alvarez wanted to face Cotto back in 2002. The fight failed to materialize cuz Cotto lost to Austin Trout. So what did Alvarez do? He took on Trout. Than it was the best fighter in the world, Mayweather. That was followed by a get well fight not against a D level opponent like Delvin Rodriguez. But a B fighter in Alfredo Angulo. Than came a fight against the best fighter in the division Erislandy Lara. After trying and failing to make a fight against Cotto he settles for a fight against Kirkland. And he's still gets hated on. Un fucking believable

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You're mistaken hatred for proving a point. I don't hate Alvarez, he's one of of my favourite fighters. I'm merely proving a point that you can twist and pick holes in a record however you like. If Cotto wins tonight I'll bet that the Alvarez fight happens next.

Also, just because I've supported Cotto's record does not mean I'm supportive of catchweights. Catchweight fights are bullshit. If you're the champion at 160, then 160 is the limit. There should be no arguments on this.

Ok so Cotto the man right why the fuck is he not facing GGG then there no reason why not he is the guy the fight no one else. Cotto fighting Geale is bullshit and holds the division up because he ducking the guy he should be fight and is also making sure he won't fight GGG after this fight either.

I wouldn't fight GGG either if I was Cotto. The Canelo fight will be much bigger than anything he can make with Golovkin. Plus, of course, Cotto, like everyone else, knows GGG would blast him into outer space.

The lineal champion doesn't mean you're the best in the division, especially in this multi-title age. Not to knock Cotto, he's great fighter, but he beat an old fading cripple to become middleweight champ. Old Serg wouldn't have made it out of round 2 with Andy Lee let alone GGG.