"Ali hate"..... what's the point??

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

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Originally Posted by Master

1. Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes

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Joe Louis ........... Was a better 'fighting machine, with more of an offensive arsenal.

Larry Holmes ....... Was smarter, and had a better {harder and faster} left-jab

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Louis was vulnerable to a boxer ask Billy Conn. Ali was bigger and better than Conn.

Holmes had a great jab but that would not be enough to beat Ali.

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Well.... at least Holmes could whine Ali to death.

If whining was a sport..... Larry would be TBE.

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Originally Posted by master

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Originally Posted by bill paxtom

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1. Ali
2. Joe louis
3. Larry holmes

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joe louis ........... Was a better 'fighting machine, with more of an offensive arsenal.

Larry holmes ....... Was smarter, and had a better {harder and faster} left-jab

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louis was vulnerable to a boxer ask billy conn. So was ali who got fucked hard by ken norton and jimmy young, both excellent boxers.

Ali was bigger and better than conn.

Holmes had a great jab but that would not be enough to beat ali.

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so was ali who got fucked hard by ken norton and jimmy young, both excellent boxers.

I think Larry Holmes whips post-ban Ali. It would be interesting to see prime Holmes vs '66 Ali though.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

If whining was a sport..... Larry would be TBE.

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Eddie Murphy's bit on Larry Holmes being a dick is still one of my favourites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8b7n9U6D3Y

LOL...... Anybody who pokes fun at Larry is ok in my book.

~ Cassius Clay Afraid Of Girls ~

"I remember meeting him {Cassius Clay} in Los Angeles, sometime in August 1965"

"I asked him if he was going with us on The USO Tour. He got all 'tongue-tied' and couldn't
put 3-Words together."

"He seemed so immature {or premature happening}."

"Maybe my short hair got him all 'Fucked Up' in the head."

Joey Heatherton

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.5GAe...g&pid=15.1&P=0

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

I dislike Clay for many reasons , boxing is about opinions , he had his and I have mine.

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I agree with Al here.

But some people just do not like to let others have their opinions. and if those people read the same opinion a few times they get their knickers all up in a right twist. they want to make the rules about when enough is enough. Now that arrogance is much worse than a person who posts in overkill mode on a certain topic.
Don't like overkill then don't read it it's that simple.
At that point they begin resorting to calling people hypocrites and then they try to get up on their moral high horse (for the good of humanity/this forum I am OH so sure MOOHAHA) and they start to become a self-appointed bastion of fairness and hypocrite-pointer-outer.
That is much more pathetic than someone who posts over and over on a certain topic.

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Except nothing you said makes any sense or is true in any way. Apart from that I agree with the full stop at the end and the gaps in between your words. The whole truth is that the only person with their knickers in a twist is Bill. Nobody has mentioned rules, hypocrisy or arrogance...except you.

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~ Cassius Clay Afraid Of Girls ~

"I remember meeting him {Cassius Clay} in Los Angeles, sometime in August 1965"

"I asked him if he was going with us on The USO Tour. He got all 'tongue-tied' and couldn't
put 3-Words together."

"He seemed so immature {or premature happening}."

"Maybe my short hair got him all 'Fucked Up' in the head."

Joey Heatherton

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.5GAe...g&pid=15.1&P=0

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Bill, that Joey Heatherton scored a TKO sometime in August 1965.

Yes,

Joey beat Cassius 'senseless' in Los Angeles.
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"Maybe Cassius didn't want to come with us to Guam, because we all had to share the
same Dressing Room."

"I don't know, maybe it was the 'Small Penis Syndrome' thing or something like that."

Joe Heatherton

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.W3RE...Q&pid=15.1&P=0

This one is for you Bill.

http://www.electricoceans.net/wp-con...iews-world.jpg

Master

Oh, suddenly Cassius Clay {Muhammad Ali} is the great 'Philosopher'.

The guy finished '327' in a class of 331.

That ain't good in my book.
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"Ain't isn't a word. It should never be used when describing a Philosopher."

Pat Priest....... {An under-rated beauty.}

http://www.hotflick.net/u/n/1346501/...-munster-7.jpg

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Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

Master

Oh, suddenly Cassius Clay {Muhammad Ali} is the great 'Philosopher'.

The guy finished '327' in a class of 331.

That ain't good in my book.

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You do not have to be good at school to be intellegent or a philosopher.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Master

Oh, suddenly Cassius Clay {Muhammad Ali} is the great 'Philosopher'.

The guy finished '327' in a class of 331.

That ain't good in my book.

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You do not have to be good at school to be intellegent or a philosopher.

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That is True !!

I heard that NASA is hiring all the lower-rated High School kids to be their 'top'
Aerodynamic Engineers.

The last Rocket that they sent up, was destined for the Moon.

It landed in Camden, New Jersey.

If you say a lie often enough, people will eventually begin to believe it's true. When time has past, people can mistakenly remember it as a truth.

I loved Ali's character, I thought he was laughing at his persona because of the way it pissed people off. My dad got so mad watching his fights, I though he would pop a vein or something. I think he was a great heavyweight boxer and could stand up as a top fighter in any era. I think he had exemplary heart in the ring and was a great representative for what he actually believed in outside the ring. It was always difficult to tell whether or not he was playing the role or he was just making light of the what he believed. I like to think that he was just fooling around, because that's the way he came across. I was never interested enough to dig into person. Great Heavyweight Boxer, Great entertainer, and one of the greatest ever, just not the greatest ever. I always thought Foreman, was better than Ali, he just punched himself out when they fought and got caught.

So this thread brought back some childhood memories. I couldn't remember that goofy looking fighter that Ali pummeled after getting knocked down so I googled it and guess what was on Youtube? I remember it cause my dad what jumping up and down like a mad man when it happened, then he was screaming when Ali was hitting him with everything after that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-newwOs8-i4