Re: Name 5 heavyweights that beat Anthony Joshua!
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Silkeyjoe
On the evidence that Johnson doesnt throw punches. Its not hard throwing 30 jabs and a dozen right hands a round. Thats all Joshua would have to do to go the distance. Pull his punches a bit and anytime Johnsn gets brave put him in his place. If he can do 20 rounds in sparring he can do 12 against a bum.
I really dont know where you come up with some of this stuff Ross. Because hes in shape hes over training? Seriously why do you hate guys who are in shape? Hes a breath of fresh air for the heavyweight division and has passed every test so far. You seemed to think that Johnson would last some rounds but Joshua blew him away. You can try say Johnson was worse than you expected but in fairness thats how he always fights. He is muck like 99% of the heavyweights out there.
Just because Johnson may not throw alot of punches doesnt mean Joshua still may not have tired. Hes falling in love with his power like Haye did and is throwing everything. I thought he looked a little gassed in the second after a burst as he didnt continue to throw like Eubank Jr did in the 12th against Chudinov. 4 or 5 rounds of trying to stop Johnson after never fighting beyond 3 rounds and he would have been tired.
Where do I get this from? From watching fighters tire them selves out believing they are destroyers, like Haye and Price.
That has nothing to do with fitness though? You can be the fittest person in the world and still punch yourself out. If Fury threw a lot of power shots hed gas too.
Regarding Joshua looking gassed???? He didnt even look out of breath
Re: Name 5 heavyweights that beat Anthony Joshua!
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
Silkeyjoe
On the evidence that Johnson doesnt throw punches. Its not hard throwing 30 jabs and a dozen right hands a round. Thats all Joshua would have to do to go the distance. Pull his punches a bit and anytime Johnsn gets brave put him in his place. If he can do 20 rounds in sparring he can do 12 against a bum.
I really dont know where you come up with some of this stuff Ross. Because hes in shape hes over training? Seriously why do you hate guys who are in shape? Hes a breath of fresh air for the heavyweight division and has passed every test so far. You seemed to think that Johnson would last some rounds but Joshua blew him away. You can try say Johnson was worse than you expected but in fairness thats how he always fights. He is muck like 99% of the heavyweights out there.
Just because Johnson may not throw alot of punches doesnt mean Joshua still may not have tired. Hes falling in love with his power like Haye did and is throwing everything. I thought he looked a little gassed in the second after a burst as he didnt continue to throw
like Eubank Jr did in the 12th against Chudinov. 4 or 5 rounds of trying to stop Johnson after never fighting beyond 3 rounds and he would have been tired.
Where do I get this from? From watching fighters tire them selves out believing they are destroyers, like Haye and Price.
Take of your blinkers with regards to fury and Eubank , so you are now comparing a 6'6 230lb HW , to a MW ?
Joshua hasn't put a foot wrong yet as a pro , lets wait and see if he is the real deal or not.
Re: Name 5 heavyweights that beat Anthony Joshua!
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You lot are mad.Joshua has not gone over 6 rounds and yet you think he could beat Tyson nowy . Is this an alternative saddo dimension I have posted into?
Honestly could not see Fury, Price or any other domestic HW troubling AJ at all.
I doubt any HW in the Uk last 3 rounds with him.
Re: Name 5 heavyweights that beat Anthony Joshua!
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Master
You lot are mad.Joshua has not gone over 6 rounds and yet you think he could beat Tyson nowy . Is this an alternative saddo dimension I have posted into?
Honestly could not see Fury, Price or any other domestic HW troubling AJ at all.
I doubt any HW in the Uk last 3 rounds with him.
Any of the top heavyweights would take AJ past 6 rounds and beat him up. It makes a big difference when you step up in class, no matter how good you look against fighters you are expected to beat easily.
Re: Name 5 heavyweights that beat Anthony Joshua!
Peter fury has said that Johnson had no desire in training and was only there to get money. He let him use his facilities but he wasn't impressed with Johnson.
I want to post the link but it won't let me. It's on boxing news
Re: Name 5 heavyweights that beat Anthony Joshua!
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Tam Seddon
Peter fury has said that Johnson had no desire in training and was only there to get money. He let him use his facilities but he wasn't impressed with Johnson.
I want to post the link but it won't let me. It's on boxing news
EXCLUSIVE Peter Fury: Kevin Johnson had no desire, he just fought Anthony Joshua for the money | Boxing News - boxing news, results, rankings, schedules since 1909
Re: Name 5 heavyweights that beat Anthony Joshua!
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Vendettos
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Master
You lot are mad.Joshua has not gone over 6 rounds and yet you think he could beat Tyson nowy . Is this an alternative saddo dimension I have posted into?
Honestly could not see Fury, Price or any other domestic HW troubling AJ at all.
I doubt any HW in the Uk last 3 rounds with him.
i dont reckon it would take josh any more than 6 rounds to knock fury out
but you never know, id like to see him try
Re: Name 5 heavyweights that beat Anthony Joshua!
Go to 4.12 in Peter Fury on Tyson currently weighing 21 stone and going down to the gym to spar Johnson.
http://youtu.be/1f-QMUN5jhc
Re: Name 5 heavyweights that beat Anthony Joshua!
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ross
did he have any desire against tyson or chisora tho? he hardly threw a punch in those fights
this isnt conclusive evidence that A Josh's KO of Johnson was anything but a fantastic performance against the same very durable fighter who had been the distance with Fury
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Joshua hasn't put a foot wrong yet as a pro , lets wait and see if he is the real deal or not.
Neither has Lee Selby, but you're prepared to write him off as a paper champ who'll be exposed as soon as he fights a live body? Despite his shitness Selby is British, Commonwealth, Euro and now World champion.
You cant have it both ways mate.
Re: Name 5 heavyweights that beat Anthony Joshua!
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erics44
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ross
did he have any desire against tyson or chisora tho? he hardly threw a punch in those fights
this isnt conclusive evidence that A Josh's KO of Johnson was anything but a fantastic performance against the same very durable fighter who had been the distance with Fury
I think there was amarked difference between this Johnson and the one who fought Chisora over a year ago now, he fancied that fight. He was lacklustre against Char after Chisora also.
Joshua is big and very strong and if someone doesnt fancy the fight and has little ambition it wont take him long to overwhelm them, however, put someone with out a handful of losses to see what hes made of.
Even ahughie Furys last opponent Andrei Rudenko. Hes tough.
Jishua might be the goods but I want to see someone with ambition take him the distance.
Re: Name 5 heavyweights that beat Anthony Joshua!
That Johnson was no different to the one that fought Fury or Chisora. He came in the same shape as he always does and tried to widdle and fiddle his way like he always does.
The difference is Joshua is more explosive/powerful than those two put together.
An awesome athlete, boxing brain, realist with a serious vicious streak. Don't fuck with that man. Fact.
Re: Name 5 heavyweights that beat Anthony Joshua!
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ross
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erics44
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ross
did he have any desire against tyson or chisora tho? he hardly threw a punch in those fights
this isnt conclusive evidence that A Josh's KO of Johnson was anything but a fantastic performance against the same very durable fighter who had been the distance with Fury
I think there was amarked difference between this Johnson and the one who fought Chisora over a year ago now, he fancied that fight. He was lacklustre against Char after Chisora also.
Joshua is big and very strong and if someone doesnt fancy the fight and has little ambition it wont take him long to overwhelm them, however, put someone with out a handful of losses to see what hes made of.
Even ahughie Furys last opponent Andrei Rudenko. Hes tough.
Jishua might be the goods but I want to see someone with ambition take him the distance.
yep i would as well
if we are comparing him to fury and chisora though, which one of any of either of their wins would have posed any sort of threat to Josh?
i dont think any of the fighters they have beaten would have lasted more than a couple to 3 rounds (excluding Chisora)
and i also agree that you dont know how josh is gonna fair in a fight that lasts 6 or more rounds
id like to see him fight Chisora next, a chisora at his best could probably take him 6 rounds
Re: Name 5 heavyweights that beat Anthony Joshua!
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erics44
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ross
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erics44
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ross
did he have any desire against tyson or chisora tho? he hardly threw a punch in those fights
this isnt conclusive evidence that A Josh's KO of Johnson was anything but a fantastic performance against the same very durable fighter who had been the distance with Fury
I think there was amarked difference between this Johnson and the one who fought Chisora over a year ago now, he fancied that fight. He was lacklustre against Char after Chisora also.
Joshua is big and very strong and if someone doesnt fancy the fight and has little ambition it wont take him long to overwhelm them, however, put someone with out a handful of losses to see what hes made of.
Even ahughie Furys last opponent Andrei Rudenko. Hes tough.
Jishua might be the goods but I want to see someone with ambition take him the distance.
yep i would as well
if we are comparing him to fury and chisora though, which one of any of either of their wins would have posed any sort of threat to Josh?
i dont think any of the fighters they have beaten would have lasted more than a couple to 3 rounds (excluding Chisora)
and i also agree that you dont know how josh is gonna fair in a fight that lasts 6 or more rounds
id like to see him fight Chisora next, a chisora at his best could probably take him 6 rounds
Chisora I doubt has any real ambition left in a hard fight. Leading up to the Fury fight there were times where he did very little and skipped around after taking a shot. His back in training now but only for another payday against Price.
I seen someone mention he has a good boxing brain, again, based on what?;D
The hype surrounding this man is ridiculous, it was the same with Price remember. He was proper starching people;)
Re: Name 5 heavyweights that beat Anthony Joshua!
I think had Johnson wanted to last the distance or even wanted to win (although still very far fetched) he would have fought better. I certainly think he was capable of lasting the distance with Joshua but of course didn't show up with any fire, he got tagged a few times and Joshua was just right on top of him and fresh as a daisy when Johnson was hurt so the ref had little choice but to stop the fight. Johnson's jab did nothing to Joshua.
I think it was a very impressive performance but at the same time there' not much you can take from it as seemingly Kevin Johnson was just there to get paid. I believe it was a great matchup by Joshua's trainer and I hope to see him continue progressing as he has been. I'm not sold on him yet as he's not very loose but we'll see what styles give him troubles soon enough.
