You already have nanny state healthcare in America for everybody over 65 and it's the only part of your healthcare system that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
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You already have nanny state healthcare in America for everybody over 65 and it's the only part of your healthcare system that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
So you admit Obamacare is a failure. Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingYou already have nanny state healthcare in America for everybody over 65 and it's the only part of your healthcare system that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
So you admit the socialised Medicare system is the best part of the US system. Well done Woti.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo you admit Obamacare is a failure. Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingYou already have nanny state healthcare in America for everybody over 65 and it's the only part of your healthcare system that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Obamacare works as well as the rest of the private system for employed people. Which is, not very well. For the people it covers it's the least worst option as we're about to discover when the GOP attempt a replacement.
#1. Where did I type that Kirkland?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingSo you admit the socialised Medicare system is the best part of the US system. Well done Woti.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongSo you admit Obamacare is a failure. Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingYou already have nanny state healthcare in America for everybody over 65 and it's the only part of your healthcare system that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Obamacare works as well as the rest of the private system for employed people. Which is, not very well. For the people it covers it's the least worst option as we're about to discover when the GOP attempt a replacement.
#2. No Obamacare doesn't work as good as the Private system it is decidedly more expensive both in premiums and deductibles.
At the end of the day the young healthy people will have to subsidize the old and sickly. It's the same with good drivers subsidizing bad drivers when it comes to auto insurance, but there comes a time when an Auto Insurance Company can cut it's losses on an insured....no such thing exists in the health insurance world anymore. People living longer and people having fewer children will only make things worse.
Miles has fucked the system up so badly by having 6 Korean children with his 3rd wife ALONE! Fucking shill is a baby machine. Then he wants to talk overpopulation.
You just can't make this stuff up.
Well, that's the way it is Brock.
I think the quality of health care here is as good as anywhere else, but it does kind of straddle a line between the UK and US model. You pay your national insurance which comes out of your wages and this is very good for cheap prescriptions and some types of surgery, but the more hi-tech surgeries are generally not covered by it as I found out recently. When it comes to health you only want the best and you want a procedure that will not leave you looking like a victim of a great white shark attack and that costs money, but thankfully I do have private insurance so cost does not matter to me. I've had this discussion a few times though with my wife wondering what people who don't have insurance or even the national insurance because of unemployment do. Apparently there are ways of getting your name on another family members national insurance, but really you cannot afford to be without private insurance. It is too risky not to. I find that I claim back a lot more than I put in, so it really it saves me money. I'm always in the hospital for something and I am back there today getting some surgery on my arm. It's the opposite for my wife who never gets sick. It's not expensive to cover yourself privately here though.
What the ~fuck~ have you "gone" and done NOW, Miles??! Surgery on your arm? What happened? is this a sudden development or are you having a persistent situation remedied?
It's an old thing I mentioned in the past, but it has been operated on at last. Nothing serious. I actually quite enjoyed this surgery as it was very simple. Even with national insurance it's another 135 pounds to pay. Then there was the 100 pounds for the previous weeks ultrasound. Then the original 14 pounds to see the doctor. It all adds up and this is just a very minor procedure. If you only have national insurance that's still a weeks wages for some. I am not grumbling though as I am very pleased with the quality of medical care out here. I've seen emergency rooms, had major surgery, minor surgery, seen it all; and saw first hand the excellent work people are doing. Walrus grumbles about the treatment of women, but nurses at the top hospitals earn really excellent money and they deserve it.
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Walrus has been a bit of a martini-drinking dipshit lately, but it doesnt stop him from talking up a storm on beef jerky and shit like that, "oh how dare you" and all that British "My word" shit.
I've just spent nearly two months in hospital so have current first-hand experience of the good and bad. I waited 14 hours to get a bed on a ward, but in my experience, considering the daily pressure nurses/staff are under, the actual care was excellent - the majority are competent at their job (which I guess should be the expected average), with every Nurse Ratched there were half-a-dozen angels.
Can't believe how many people live in their own filth (before being forced to clean), shit and piss themselves and refuse to speak english (the last point is not linked to the others). And the amount that have the cheek to demand a special/particular menu. And get physical/abusive with the nurses (always female nurses). And should be in a mental home. And are fucking time wasters (some poor souls definitely/obviously enjoyed living in the hospital more than outside).
A shout out to the young Filipino nurses - several on my ward - who were the most excellent/dedicated/caring/upbeat lovely people i've ever came across. An eye opener for anyone that believes all immigration is a wrongun.
I hate that you have been ill Fenster, many well wishes to you and for your speedy recovery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
The problem with a social safety net of any kind is IMMIGRATION especially ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. You have people who do not and have not paid into the system, they have no skin in the game but demand the same rights. Of course under the Hippocratic oath it is the duty of any and all doctors and nurses to provide care for their fellow human beings regardless of their ability to be paid for such services. This then becomes a moral quandary much like "If you need medicine and the medicine is more than you can afford is it immoral for you to steal the medicine if that is the only means by which you can survive"
Hell that's were you been hope your on the road to recovery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I hope you were a good patient any how glad your back Rich.
Great to see you back mate. Don't want to rush you or anything you recovering and all that, but I am still awaiting my poster. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
@Fenster first off good to hear you are out and recovering. You are absolutely right here in New York City Filipino nurses are known to be the best of the best everybody wants to get a Filipino nurse they are fast and smart and highly educated and they work overtime and never get tired glad to hear they are also spreading their great reputation over in your country tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster