Re: Fighters who dined out on a loss
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How's about Wayne McCulloch? Specifically being the first to take Naz 12 rounds.
He had some decent wins so to say he was defined by that is a bit unfair but he is most remembered nowadays for having the best chin outside of Oliver McCall, a reputation he first earned from that loss.
Hmmm... not sure his chin rep was due to Naz (not saying you're wrong but I don't remember him like that). He had a great rep from the Olympics/AMs, and before facing Naz he already had a reputation for being hard-as-nails, with the upset victory in Japan for the WBC title then several title defence wars before an epic with HOFamer Daniel Zaragoza. After Naz he had another epic with Morales (which was one of the HBO fights of the year).
You're right he was considered a lamb to the slaughter against Naz but I remember it more to do with stepping up in weight against, obviously, one of the P4P hardest clumpers and biggest stars at the time.
Re: Fighters who dined out on a loss
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ryanman
How's about Wayne McCulloch? Specifically being the first to take Naz 12 rounds.
He had some decent wins so to say he was defined by that is a bit unfair but he is most remembered nowadays for having the best chin outside of Oliver McCall, a reputation he first earned from that loss.
Hmmm... not sure his chin rep was due to Naz (not saying you're wrong but I don't remember him like that). He had a great rep from the Olympics/AMs, and before facing Naz he already had a reputation for being hard-as-nails, with the upset victory in Japan for the WBC title then several title defence wars before an epic with HOFamer Daniel Zaragoza. After Naz he had another epic with Morales (which was one of the HBO fights of the year).
You're right he was considered a lamb to the slaughter against Naz but I remember it more to do with stepping up in weight against, obviously, one of the P4P hardest clumpers and biggest stars at the time.
I'm sure you're right. Pre-Naz my memories are hazy as it was a bit before my time mate ;). At that point (1998) its likely that I would have only been watching Naz, Lewis, Eubank, Calzaghe so I definitely would have known about McCullough for his WBC Bantam win but maybe not seen him and would have probably assumed Naz would have bombed him out (I probably would have backed Naz over King Kong).
Post Naz I remember his fight with Morales and then the absolute hammering he took against the much bigger Harrison (hammered in terms of the volume of shots - I don't think he blinked).
Re: Fighters who dined out on a loss
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ryanman
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Fenster
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ryanman
How's about Wayne McCulloch? Specifically being the first to take Naz 12 rounds.
He had some decent wins so to say he was defined by that is a bit unfair but he is most remembered nowadays for having the best chin outside of Oliver McCall, a reputation he first earned from that loss.
Hmmm... not sure his chin rep was due to Naz (not saying you're wrong but I don't remember him like that). He had a great rep from the Olympics/AMs, and before facing Naz he already had a reputation for being hard-as-nails, with the upset victory in Japan for the WBC title then several title defence wars before an epic with HOFamer Daniel Zaragoza. After Naz he had another epic with Morales (which was one of the HBO fights of the year).
You're right he was considered a lamb to the slaughter against Naz but I remember it more to do with stepping up in weight against, obviously, one of the P4P hardest clumpers and biggest stars at the time.
I'm sure you're right. Pre-Naz my memories are hazy as it was a bit before my time mate ;). At that point (1998) its likely that I would have only been watching Naz, Lewis, Eubank, Calzaghe so I definitely would have known about McCullough for his WBC Bantam win but maybe not seen him and would have probably assumed Naz would have bombed him out (I probably would have backed Naz over King Kong).
Post Naz I remember his fight with Morales and then the absolute hammering he took against the much bigger Harrison (hammered in terms of the volume of shots - I don't think he blinked).
The Scott Harrison beating was the worst he ever took, hardly surprising considering McCullough was a pomp bantamweight facing a man who made Canelo blush when seeing his fight night weights.
Re: Fighters who dined out on a loss
I’m late to the discussion and not entirely sure I understand the question, but wouldn’t Chuck Wepner be a good example?? No one knew who he was until he lost to Ali and not only did he become an overnight sensation, they eventually based the Rocky franchise on him. Someone may have already mentioned him and/or I may be off what we are getting after in this thread, so apologize in advance if either is true.
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I’m late to the discussion and not entirely sure I understand the question, but wouldn’t Chuck Wepner be a good example?? No one knew who he was until he lost to Ali and not only did he become an overnight sensation, they eventually based the Rocky franchise on him. Someone may have already mentioned him and/or I may be off what we are getting after in this thread, so apologize in advance if either is true.
Nobody understands the question so you are in good company but that's a good one mate.
Re: Fighters who dined out on a loss
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mikeeod
I’m late to the discussion and not entirely sure I understand the question, but wouldn’t Chuck Wepner be a good example?? No one knew who he was until he lost to Ali and not only did he become an overnight sensation, they eventually based the Rocky franchise on him. Someone may have already mentioned him and/or I may be off what we are getting after in this thread, so apologize in advance if either is true.
Dont let the ramblings of these simpletons put you off your stride, you’ve understood perfectly ;D
Wepner is a great example.
What about Dicky Eklund? Very similar circumstances to Wepner.
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What about James Toney as soon as he lost to Roy Jones he dined out so much he moved to cruiserweight and even heavyweight.
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Who you got. Fighters who's career was defined by a loss.
Zelko Mavrovic and his loss to Lewis. It was a "good" loss. lolol... His biggest claim to fame.
;D
Didnt he get a disease that ate him alive? More dined on than dined out.
Apparently....
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Tony Galento v Louis maybe. All you ever hear is how he almost knocked him out. Almost.
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Peter McNeely. Talk shows, reality tv after and multiple pizza hut commercials.
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Jack Dempsey against Tunney after the 'Battle of the Long Count' .... a fight in which he was well beaten, and Tunney looked composed enough to get up sooner if he needed to
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Stone Cold's loss to Brett Hart at the 1996 Survivor Series. LITERALLY MADE STONE COLD.
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Oh yeah good one. I remember after that when everyone was LITERALLY PICKING STONE COLD to beat Lewis and Holyfield on the same night.
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Razor Ruddock dined out on going 19 rounds & losing twice to the then one dimensional Mike Tyson, so much so, that he was considered to be the most most dangerous HW in the world circa 1992 when Tyson got himself locked up.
