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I think Loma is the best of them. But I don’t think he matches up with Haney at all. I think he’ll get picked apart working his way in and Haney will be gone. Loma throws like 40 punches a round. That won’t work against someone longer and faster.
But, I’m not confident Haney gets past Kambosos.
I actually think Haney will have fun with kambosos and I've returned into a bit of a Haney doubter(after his last few fights), even though I rated him so highly before(in the thread on this forum I tipped him to be the best of the four lw prospects), I really think the Aussie benefited from Lopez's desire for a 1st round ko, I'm not sure that kambosos hits hard enough to stop Haney being Haney and sniping him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
But also in opposition to your post(you most likely know far better than me btw) I think lomachenko ends up being a bit too smart and good for Haney for their fight and gets a close but decisive decision win
Let’s just hope we get to see. Luckily with Teo out of the way we should be able to get the big fights. Key word shouldQuote:
Originally Posted by palmerqI actually think Haney will have fun with kambosos and I've returned into a bit of a Haney doubter(after his last few fights), even though I rated him so highly before(in the thread on this forum I tipped him to be the best of the four lw prospects), I really think the Aussie benefited from Lopez's desire for a 1st round ko, I'm not sure that kambosos hits hard enough to stop Haney being Haney and sniping him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
But also in opposition to your post(you most likely know far better than me btw) I think lomachenko ends up being a bit too smart and good for Haney for their fight and gets a close but decisive decision win
Loma looks small at the weight, these guys look massive in comparison. Loma is too skilled for them and played with Commey in the end. Very brave of his corner to allow Commey to take that beating.
Loma should take on Tank whilst he waits for Kambosos v Haney.
Loma is brilliant to watch and makes me reminisce about watching Sweet Pea at his best.
I agree that Loma is brilliant and I can’t help but think/compare him to other brilliant southpaws (Hagler, Sweet Pea, Manny….etc.). It’s like someone took the footwork and activity of Manny, mashed it together with the defensive ability of Sweet Pea, and added the footwork of a pro dancer. Loma is welll above his best weight and he beats these good fighters into submission because the gap in skill is so large.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I love the reference to Pea as he is one of my favorite fighters ever and was another guy who fought well above his weight because he was so good/much better than everyone else. Pea was unique because he was much more stationary and able to break opponents down behind a constant jab and sustained body attack, where Loma uses his legs to maneuver around opponents and create angles to attack. Both styles are effective and unique to those two, there was a period when fighters would try to adopt Pea’s deep knee bend on the inside but no one was as effective with it. Loma’s angles and footwork is similar- no one will be as effective as he is (they won’t be able to combine the movement, defense, and offense like he does).
As I said before, I love Loma’s desire to be great by fighting the best and cleaning divisions out. I still feel like his loss vs Teo was more about what he didn’t do than what Teo did, but admit I’m biased and my have clouded judgement. Either way, the next couple of years will be great and we all need to appreciate this guy while he is around (along with Bud, Canelo, Usyk, and Fury).
Couple things.
1-Loma’s footwork is miles better than Manny. Manny had fast feet but his footwork was not great, he was always off balance.
2-how is Loma a take all comers guy? He picked up a vacant belt at 126, that doesn’t mean fighting the best. He refused Berchelt at 130, they refused Mikey until Mikey left at 135.
Loma is a treat with his skill level, but take all comers, how can anyone figure that? Literally refused the top guys. We can’t ignore what actually happened for how we feel. Sure we know it was Arum, but in the end if your promoter refused the top guys the fighter is held accountable
I feel like much of this is subjective and appreciate your perspective but will reply just for the sake of the discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
1. We agree that Loma has better footwork, that why I added the part about the footwork of a dancer and didn’t leave it at just Manny’s footwork.
2. Loma fought Salido in his second fight and Garry Russel jr. in his third- name one other fighter in the history of the sport that fought that level of competition in their second and third fights. He also made Nicholas Walters quit, beat Linares and Campbell, and took on Teo. I believe his plan was to totally unify while running through all the young guys, but came up a little short vs Teo.
If you feel that Loma is ducking anyone then we just have to agree to disagree. That argument sounds similar to when people were saying Oscar ducked Winky Wright or Manny ducked anyone.
Vasiliy Lomachenko targets George Kambosos Jr after beating Richard Commey
Ukraine's Vasiliy Lomachenko continued his bid to reclaim the WBA, IBF and WBO lightweight titles with a stunning win against Ghana's Richard Commey.
Lomachenko, 33, knocked down Commey in the seventh round, going on to secure victory by unanimous decision at Madison Square Garden in New York.
It was a wide margin on all three cards, with Lomachenko judged to have won 117-110, 119-108 and 119-108.
Three-weight champion Lomachenko hopes to now face George Kambosos Jr.
Unheralded Australian Kambosos Jr became the unified world lightweight champion last week by stunning American Teofimo Lopez in a split-decision victory.
Lopez, who suffered his first loss in 17 fights, had beaten Lomachenko in October 2020 to add the WBA (Super) and WBO titles to his IBF belt.
Lomachenko had hoped for a rematch with Lopez after losing to him in Las Vegas, but the American was instead ordered to defend his belt against mandatory challenger Kambosos Jr, who produced one of the biggest boxing shocks of the year.
Now Lomachenko, a two-time Olympic gold medallist and once considered the sport's pound-for-pound number one, has targeted a bout with Kambosos Jr.
"I will go anywhere I need to go to fight him," Lomachenko said. "I need this chance."
Meanwhile, 39-year-old Nonito Donaire defended his WBC bantamweight belt with a fourth-round knockout win over fellow Filipino Reymart Gaballo in California.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/59626597
i'd advise george to keep busy against other opponents for now