yeah so did I, Robin Reid got robbed against Sven Ottke AND Joe Cazlaghe.
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yeah so did I, Robin Reid got robbed against Sven Ottke AND Joe Cazlaghe.
Carl Froch is No 1 at SMW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sovereign
Course he is mate - he's beaten all the top guys ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by TrickyTree
wouldnt call reid vs calzaghe robbery was very close fight could of gone either way and point deduction reid had didnt help eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Sovereign
Yes but they should have fought again Joe Should have proved he were'nt lucky to win all the great fighters if they win by a close points win and people question it they want to prove a point e.g Barrera v Juarez and Mayweather v Castillo plus if the wins go either way trilogys dont hurt careers e.g Barrera v morales and Bowe v holyfieldQuote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Oscar was a risky right for hopkins? gimmie a brake the only risk of that was he might get screwed if it went the 12 - shit i don't think oscar should of even held the belt to go into that fight, Sturm was screwed so HBO could get the hopkins v oscar fight IMO and even if he wasnt screwed he got through it by the skin of his teath!Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Eastman i guess thats debatable, i never really rated him or thought to highly of him, but some do so thats fair enough i guess...
As for the 2 Viet fights you questiond, the first one veit was something like 28 or 29 and 0 coming into it, he was fairy highly thought of around europe, germanys next big hope (atleast the media were saying that) - the second fight he had to fight him or vacate.. for one there was no one else around worth beating, and two he only had the wbo belt, so vacating it would of been dumb.
lucky? hahahahah yeah it was close but lucky? Up untill calzaghe rboke his hand reid wasn't in the fight, the only reaosn he was able to get back in it and get the fight so close is calzaghe had to box with one hand for half a freaking fight and you call him LUCKY? even ant evens who seems to jump at any chance to slate calzaghe give the fight to him!Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
a rematch would of been totaly pointless for two reasons - One, anyone who actualy watched it and understood what was going on knew the only reason reid was in the fight was coz calzaghe had bust his hand;
Two and the most imporntant one THEN; HBO were watching that fight with great interest, after the beating he had given eubank and impressing in his next two fights and first 2 defences of his belt HBO wanted to build calzaghe up in the US for a future mega fight with Roy jones. SO HBO were planning to show the reid fight on tv but calzaghe went and bust his hand, the fight turnd out to be a right messy snooze fest HBO lost all interest so calzaghe had to start over, reid would of been a step backwards fact.
just FYI a few fights later HBO were back in the interest of calzaghe, same thing happend calzaghe went and bust his hand again and they lost interest again...
Wake up mate he is'nt that great and if he his he as not proved itQuote:
Originally Posted by Preme
'THAT' great? where did is ay he was great? i was just filling you in on things you cleary don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Must be a welsh thing other day you had me over Gammer been shit today its Calzaghe look you pulled me on me liking Sheffield fighters thats because im from Sheffield
your telling me there was no one else to fight other than guy calzaghe destroyed in 1 round ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
eastman was 40-1 and only loss come against william joppy by close decision were alot of people thought he won so i think that was big risk
and i still think oscar was risk but thats my opinion
Lets hope he retires at the end of the year and puts us all out of our misery
the same willima joppy who hopkins went on to win 11 or 12 of the rounds against 2 fights later? i understand styles make fightes etc.. eastman losses just, hopkins basicaly shuts him out and eastman is then later considerd a risk? fair enougn bro its your opinion and i got alot of respect for your postsi aint saying your wrong, i just can't see your logic in this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
As for calzaghe, na, at the veit time i struggle to think of one person who he could of fought that would of matterd. there was no kessler i can think of then, no up and coming mundanes or andrades - what was he meant to do, vacate his WBO belt and turn down a 750 G pay day to fight some other bumb? or just do this - not as if calzaghe or warren asked for this fight...
what exactly is a welsh thing there? pointing out the fact that calzaghe fought half the reid fight with 1 hand? that up untill he bust it he was clearly in controll, the fact that HBO lost interest in calzaghe after that fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Thats not a wlesh thing, its called backing up your comments with facts, something as of yet you have failed to do.
No warren and Calzaghe did'nt want it because they had that fight set up with that p4p fighter Brian Magee no sorry that fighter who is just an ok british fighterQuote:
Originally Posted by Preme
Did you watch the Reid fight how was he clearly in control until then and what i meant about the welsh thing is your welsh and so are Gammer and Calzaghe and everytime i say anything about them your their going on at meQuote:
Originally Posted by Preme
what you meant was i thre a bunch of facts in your face, you panicted coz u were out of your depth and had to try using the good ol' 'coz your from the same country your a fan boy' card - Facts speak for them selves and they are all there in regards to the reid fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Are you Calzaghes boyfriend look mate he only just beat Reid he has'nt fought enough big names he will go down as a could of beenQuote:
Originally Posted by Preme
Don't let this descend into a slanging match please.
Sorry mate its just a laugh whats your opinion on the Calzaghe v Reid fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
I have this fight on my PC and I just played the last 6 rounds to see who exactly is telling the truth. For a guy with a busted hand Calzaghe is sure swinging away with it. There's no evidence that it was the busted hand that turned the fight around. It was more the fact that Reid adjusted to what Calzaghe was doing. I scored the fight a draw when I first saw it. And still do. The hand excuse is used for the fight being so close. And to try and justify not giving Reid a well deserved rematch. Calzaghe's groupies say a Reid rematch wouldn't of meant anything. How's that? The fight was very close. And Calzaghe didn't go on to fight a big name. He instead fought two bums in his next fights. Rick Thornberry and David Starie. The Starie fight was so awful that Showtime almost dropped Calzaghe themself. Calzaghe blames it on another busted hand. But yet goes on and fights Omar Shieka (premature stoppage) a couple of months later. Calzaghe's busted hand excuse is exactly that. A fucking excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
I just watched some fights of his, and was thinking he reminds me of an old school fighter. Just walks forward winging shots relentlessly. Its a fun style to watch, and im begining to like him, the fight with Byron Mitchell, that was like Hearns Hagler , just bombing on each other. He throws so many shots, I just wonder does he do that the whole fight? Ive only seen highlights of a few of his fights, and its just like he never stops punching.He does kind of lob his fists from the waist, but they look like the got some snap in em.
Its sad that Joe doesnt get the credit he deserves. But thats got a lot to do i think with his promoter and choice of opponents. 2 examples I can give is: (i) Sven Ottke - fought in his own country for years. Fought the same class of opponent every time and we never got ta see how good he could have been. (ii) Ricky hatton - probably could have stayed in england under warren and ended his career undefeated. Instead, broke away from warren and is bout ta fight castillo(huge fight). Wonder if joe would give Mundine a shot.....
Why would he need to do so? Calzaghe doesnt have an eating disorder.Quote:
Originally Posted by althetruthhindley
A little bit cheeky, but I like it :coolclick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimboogie
I agree there, ODH was not a risk fight for B Hop, it was merely a huge paypacket. Why is it that Oscar didnt continue at middleweight? It was beyond him, thats why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
I dont rate Eastman all that highly on his resume either.
Taylor showed up Hopkins clearly in the second fight and Taylor is an extremely flawed fighter.
Im actually a big Hopkins fan, but its easy to dig at any opponents resume. And Calzaghe sure takes his share of digging. Of course to an extent it is justified, but some of it seems to border on obsessive and mania ;)
CC mate thats what i think tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
That right there was 100% unbiased truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
truth is calzaghe sucks
How about a catch weight fight next for Calzaghe in his quest for greatness
Clazaghe v Homer Simpson before you laugh think about it ok
Simpson is slow
overweight
no real power as such
easy to hit
and is a fans favorite you think Fran kWarren has missed him as possible oponant ?
WOT DO YOU GUYS THINK ?
This could be a massive step up for Calzaghe plus he would break his hands on Homers head Homer takes a great shot i'd pick Homer to win Calzaghe retires on his stool with both his hands broken and a bad back ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by althetruthhindley
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Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Joke my friend christ no sense of humour on here sometimesQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
You really show yourself up badly with such mind numbingly dull statements such as that. Tedious and boring. Argue your case if you will, but please back up your inane comments with a little intellect if at all possible! ::** :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by althetruthhindley
at what point do i get 5 gloves
I have no idea...Is it a 1000 posts or something? I dont know really, Im not clued up on all of those details...Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Truth is Joe C whupped the Best America had to offer and now the Haters have to pin their hopes on an unbeaten Mexican and a half English Viking .
Doubt you'll make it there mate ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Cheers mate its great to feel wanted perhaps if i do ever get 5 gloves i will be sad click kingQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
IM SORRY YOUR HIGHNESS :)Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
was just a joke get a life