Media mainstream sportscenter starts show with mma vs boxing debate

MMA is a great sport, and I don't think any experience I have as a fan can match when I went to Nagoya, Japan and watched PRIDE 13 live. The whole show was magical.

I like to box more, I think it's more fun. I wouldn't mind fighting MMA, but I don't enjoy grappling as much as boxing and I know that my hands are where the bulk of my talent lies.

They're good, complementary sports. I don't see why they have to vie with each other. For most of my friends that I introduce to boxing, I use MMA as the medium. It's an easy entryway into combat sports. From there, I'll show them boxing matches so that a lot of my friends are both boxing and MMA fans, just like I am.

The whole MMA vs. boxing debate boils to the idea that fans are somehow incapable of appreciating both. The name calling and insults are the products of this fallacy.

Ok Lyle and Trainer I think we all get that MMA is akin to watching paint dry for you, but what would it take for you to see MMA is a legit sport with legit participants?

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I think it's idiotic how both Rogan and Dibella feel the need to prove one sport is better than the other, or moreso, why people here try to do the same thing. Fight fans can like boxing, or MMA, or both. I like both. I don't think it's really even competitive, but they really complement each other. Like for instance in recent years where there would be a long stretch we'd have to wait between blockbuster boxing ppvs, UFC now in a way fills in the blanks, (Liddell-Jackson coming in between DLH-Mayweather and Judah-Cotto). And for those who bash UFC, they at least have their most dominant fighter also happening to be their most exciting fighter (Liddell), and as Brian Kenny pointed out yesterday, boxing hasn't had that since Tyson in the 80s.

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You want an honest awnser?
Not a fans awnswer?
UFC needs investors,so they cook it up to make it look like the wave of the future
So if they can make the big bad wolves of Wrasslin and Boxing look past it,maybe they can draw in more money
The USFL did the same thing back in the 80s,so they could afford to sign guys like Steve Young,and Herschel Walker,and Reggie White

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Lyle at least be some what informed
Randy Couture is the HW champ not Tim Sylvia
Chuck is a LHW not hw
Title fights are five 5 minute rounds

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What a whopping 3 rounds.Boxers used to 15 rounds until 1984 when Ray boom boom Mancini killed Duk Koo Kim after a vicious right hand to the chin he later went into a coma and died.Ive never scene or hered someone dying in MMA.3 five minute rounds is 15 minutes. 12,3 minute round is well over double that fifteen rounder where three times that. You cant compare
boxing and MMA. Boxers are clearly more well conditioned and by far way more superior as strikers with there hand. MMA is clearly more superior with the ground game and the martial arts.I just happen to preferr boxing. I know guys who do MMA and I cant stand a single one of them from there crappy attitudes to there terrible tribal tattoos.

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So its not about a fighters athleticism or skills....your arguments have denigrated to ragging on a whole group of atheletes b/c of their tattoos and percieved attitudes? There is a word for intolerant people who make broad sweepping generalizations and stereotypes....bigot

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No worries Van Man.. Me and you have been on Saddo's for about the same time.... And trying to educate people against there predjudices, Ignorance and falsehoods against MMA is futile.... MOst people who put down MMA dont know a gotdam thing about it and wind up looking like complete A-Holes to people who know the ins and outs of the sport. Entertainment value is always subjective and thats fine but, when people are just straight up idiotic and lacking real perception, I just dont waste my time anymore. If they want to sound like uneducated street urchins thats fine by me ;)

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So you watch the lastest t.v series of this show and agree these guys fighting in the house provided by the owner of UFC are class acts.I'm sorry to so idiotic and so ignorant to say these perfect gentlemen are complete jerks.God send me to the fiery pits for having such a biased opinion on something that is so obvious.

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Thanks for the :sadclick: I wont retaliate though ;) But who gives a flying fuk if they hump pigeons in the park during there freetime... What the hell does it have to do with their skill set and abiltiy to take a punch... Are you for real??? I'm covered in tats and train in MMA so when you offend the sport you are offending me.. Tell you what I dare you to tell Leban what you think of him and the sport he dedicates himself, trains and bleeds..

I'm sure he would do the same that I would.. See what your really made of and if you are even in a position to run your yap :-X

9x out of 10 the critics are nothing more than keyboard jockeys that think they know something because they saw it on TV or they know someone who trains, so it makes them a tough guy and an expert :beat:

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Baby any day.. I will say what I think to any man.I'm not the biggest dude.6' 220. But well all bleed red baby.I boxed for 10 years. Kenmore boxing club and then goodshepards gym on Howard street. My father was a small time ham and egger pro welter weight .He wasnt the greatest pro. He only had 19 fights.He was 11-7-1.But he is besides the point. I gave an opinion you are the one talking in a tone that seems like wrath like .If Leban was here I would tell him what how he can be a little more classy and less trashy.I guarantee he would have a tough time taking me on my feet.I swat harder than he dose. I guarantee you that. He would probablly have to take me down and work his game and choke me out.I was a amateur from 8 years till I was 18.I won a silver glove at 120. I have knocked kids out with headgear on. My son is 5 years old and is going to the gym allready.So don't put down what you don't know or understand. Because I know and understand MMA guys. My cousin dose it and my wife's ex boyfriend dose it. And if you ask me they are both a complete waste of Oxygen. Then I see what these so called men do on T.v .Of all places the home that is provided to them by the owner of the company.The best education I got was on the streets. Hopefully you never had to fight your way in and out of neighborhoods in Connecticut. In urban Akron's dirty south side you do. I used to carry a cue ball stuffed in a sock for protection when I was 12.You have to do what you have to do.I still live in Akron but in a different area but still in the south side non the less. I have been slashed with a knife shot at, jumped, I have even had a dog sicked on me during a street fight.So don't tell me what for.Im sure you are a decent man an hopefully you can understand where Im coming from.True....I had 3 best freinds growing up.1 is still alive.Alan deceded to taste test a buck shot and Marcus was murdered in his sleep by his neighboor for drug money.I hate my past.I don't ever want that for my child or even yours if you have any its not fun. I do not wish that upon any man if I agree with him or not.

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I'll say it your face I'll say it to anyones face that I think alot of MMA guys a a bunch of jackasses who are covered in tattoos who can never hold a real job.Peter Manfreo is a union electrician.So I said that to your face .That alot of MMA guys are classless swatters who leave their chin hanging out like yesterdays laundry. So I'm saying it basically if I could point blank to your face.Its hard being a new england gansta isn't it.Connecticut.huh.I just watched IFL. I laughed the whole time these kids have holes in their game big enough to fit a truck in. Thats all Im saying. Boxers are better condtioned and have better chins and strike with their hands alot better than MMA.I also belive that out of the over 9,000 ranked world boxers the average one has more class than the average MMA guy.

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Ok Lyle and Trainer I think we all get that MMA is akin to watching paint dry for you, but what would it take for you to see MMA is a legit sport with legit participants?

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Oh I view it as a sport,just one that has no identity right now
Of course Volleyball and Cricket are sports too
The best thing for MMA is to acknowledge its a variation of Greco Wrestling,which is what it really is.
Long term its its best chance for survival,but as long as it sells itself the way it is,itll make short term money,because of the machismo factor,but it will never be a real sport
There wont be any Olympic Medals,there wont be any Gold Gloves,itll just be a sideshow
Honestly I wouldnt mind if it became legit(hell,nobodies forcing me to watch,nobodies forcing me to wach Golf either,thank god)but right now its just this amorphous nothing.
Hey let it it decide what it is,and you guys can enjoy watching it.

I'm a Sergeant in an Infantry company. So I work closely with 120+ guys between the ages of 18-38. I can say this most of them could name the UFC's belt holders easier then any particular 5 boxing champs. They buy the PPVs and watch freebies much more so than boxing. We also train in Army combatives which is a toned down version of MMA. A number of guys have started to compete as well. Now I know that Infantry soldiers aren't a perfect microcosm but we do come from all walks of life and they are much more interested in MMA than boxing. I personally grew up on boxing but have been turned off over the last several years. I enjoy training in MMA and respect the fighters as great atheletes and technical fighters. I like having one champion, I like having most of the fights that I want to see actually happen, I like how the fight cards usually have multiple fights I'm interested in, I like that MMA fights usually dont end in controversial decisions. For me I feel like I get more for my money as a fan of MMA. To me boxing is losing its fanbase not only through the crappy alphabets and promoters but more importantly at its ground base. My hometown of College Station, Tx is close to 200,000 people. It has one boxing gym that barely stays in business and is tucked away in downtown and if you didn't know where it was you'd walk right by it. The dissapearance of boxing gyms is taking more and more of boxings future fans than anything else

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I'm a Sergeant in an Infantry company. So I work closely with 120+ guys between the ages of 18-38. I can say this most of them could name the UFC's belt holders easier then any particular 5 boxing champs. They buy the PPVs and watch freebies much more so than boxing. We also train in Army combatives which is a toned down version of MMA. A number of guys have started to compete as well. Now I know that Infantry soldiers aren't a perfect microcosm but we do come from all walks of life and they are much more interested in MMA than boxing. I personally grew up on boxing but have been turned off over the last several years. I enjoy training in MMA and respect the fighters as great atheletes and technical fighters. I like having one champion, I like having most of the fights that I want to see actually happen, I like how the fight cards usually have multiple fights I'm interested in, I like that MMA fights usually dont end in controversial decisions. For me I feel like I get more for my money as a fan of MMA. To me boxing is losing its fanbase not only through the crappy alphabets and promoters but more importantly at its ground base. My hometown of College Station, Tx is close to 200,000 people. It has one boxing gym that barely stays in business and is tucked away in downtown and if you didn't know where it was you'd walk right by it. The dissapearance of boxing gyms is taking more and more of boxings future fans than anything else

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You are totally right about too many belts. That is one thing that has put boxing in such a resesion. That and the promoters need to take on the roll as a more of a agent than a pimp. I trhink Golden boy and Bob Arum are the only two I would trust.But that is weird how your town has only one gym. In Akron 330,000 population has i think 8 or nine. Goodshepards is the cutthroat kind. I was their from 1992-1995. Boxing is huge in my neck of the woods.Cleveland right up the street has over 13.But it seems Youngstown gets all the credit they have produced world champs and now a new glimmer of hope to try to mask its bullet ridden past in Kelly the Ghost Pavlik. I guess it could be a geography thing too. Both these citys are about 40 minutes away from me. Sad thing is Youngstown makes Cleveland look like Beverly Hills.

But another thing these MMA guys usually train in boxing alot. These guys need to go to these holes in the wall to learn how to use your hands. Throwing a punch is a science.Look at Hearns. Skinny as a rail but can tear down a wall without any tools.

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But another thing these MMA guys usually train in boxing alot. These guys need to go to these holes in the wall to learn how to use your hands. Throwing a punch is a science.Look at Hearns. Skinny as a rail but can tear down a wall without any tools.

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This has been discussed over and over. You can't use the same stance when you have to worry about getting taken down or kicked. You can't commit to a punch the same way. It's apples and oranges watch what you like and don't sweat the differences. And I watch both regularly every fighter and boxer has holes in their games. Watch FNF and see how many guys don't make mistakes or don't fight the right game plan. Hell ODH abandoned his jab in the middle of a fight when it was working. JT was inactive and timid against a feather fisted undersized challenger. Even his trainer was riding him half the fight to be aggressive. I would categorize those as holes. Everyone has them no matter what sport and especially in MMA and Boxing. I am a fan of both and this argument is silly. They are different and neither is better than the other. As far as class of the fighters, I would have to say boxing has a much higher percentage of former convicts as champs. Let's not get in to that stuff.

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Thats just it lyle. Jackson and Lidell will be compared to Mayweather/de la hoya when it comes to sales figures and all that. I hope the fight ends in under 2 minutes with an anticlimatic wide open head shot.

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While i'm on fire i'd like my second and third wish to be:

2. A hooked up black saleen s7 with green ground effects decent rims and expanded interior and an auto transmission (so i could actually fit in and drive the mfer)
3. Carrie Underwood in the passenger seat.

I'm just hoping ;D

well I have to say I'm dissapointed in the outcome of the fight.... but that shit is pretty funny punisher

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MMA is a great sport, and I don't think any experience I have as a fan can match when I went to Nagoya, Japan and watched PRIDE 13 live. The whole show was magical.

I like to box more, I think it's more fun. I wouldn't mind fighting MMA, but I don't enjoy grappling as much as boxing and I know that my hands are where the bulk of my talent lies.

They're good, complementary sports. I don't see why they have to vie with each other. For most of my friends that I introduce to boxing, I use MMA as the medium. It's an easy entryway into combat sports. From there, I'll show them boxing matches so that a lot of my friends are both boxing and MMA fans, just like I am.

The whole MMA vs. boxing debate boils to the idea that fans are somehow incapable of appreciating both. The name calling and insults are the products of this fallacy.

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Bilbo stated it clear as day early in this thread, Since the sports dawning the heavyweight champion of the world has been viewed as the baddest man on the planet. Boxing fans have problems accepting mma fighters on that same level when most of their fights end in under 5 minutes a lot of the time consisting of one guy in the fetal position getting his face pounded in.

It's not clear as day though. The only baddest man on the planet were Tyson and Hagler. But that's fair because they really were the baddest man on the planet. No one called Ray Leonard the baddest man on the planet, or De La Hoya, but they are two of the biggest draws in the last 30 years.

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It's not clear as day though. The only baddest man on the planet were Tyson and Hagler. But that's fair because they really were the baddest man on the planet. No one called Ray Leonard the baddest man on the planet, or De La Hoya, but they are two of the biggest draws in the last 30 years.

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The heavyweight world champion. The weak american heavy crop is the only real thing wrong with the sport. These bad decisions and alpha titles while around before tyson but while he was around no one really seemed to notice or complain much.

I love both sports...the only time I get irked is when the legitamacy of MMA and the skill and athleticism of its participants is questioned...its not about one better than the other to me just a simple matter of respect

Hey, first post..
From the reactions of my friends (who are not big boxing fans, but have their favorites and will watch the bigger name fights) it seems that it's all about perception.. The mainstream audience can just turn on a UFC fight and jump right into it and understand it because it seems more straight forward -- two men just go at it. At the end of the Liddell fight, everyone said "I heard it sucked" simply because it was an early KO, and the guy they wanted to win didn't win.. and when these are the people you're trying to sell PPV's to, then overall MMA is going to get the most money due to entertainment factors... I think that the mainstream audience may not be as entertained by a boxing chess match, where boxing fans may love it.. I think that boxing has a ridiculous amount of depth compared to MMA, but MMA is more straight forward and easier for a random person to watch..

I think a good example would be Mayweather, and how his style is nearly untouchable.. someone who purchased a PPV to watch Mayweather fight, and they see his opponent missing him constantly and Floyd sticking his shots in their, will probably be disapointed.. but i feel that when he puts on a show like that, i appreciate him that much more because of his skills.
And on the flip side you watch someone like Royce Gracie fight MMA and you see this skinny dude submitting and completely owning oversized opponents.. and unless you're a martial arts fan, or are somewhat involved or enjoy watching boxing/mma you won't appreciate his skills.. But if you see Matt Hughes or Rampage Jackson pound someone, then you consider them a great fighter..
This is a topic up for endless debate, but what it comes down to is satisfaction, and i don't think that my equivelant as an MMA fan can get as involved and excited about MMA as i do with boxing..

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I love both sports...the only time I get irked is when the legitamacy of MMA and the skill and athleticism of its participants is questioned...its not about one better than the other to me just a simple matter of respect

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They're in shape mostly but you can't argue that alot of them get jacked up with punches. Yeah i've heard the gloves are smaller and that the stances have to be different but that doesn't mean you can't side step and counter. I'm not one that thinks its less violent than boxing (being as a lot of stoppages occur in the first round from sometimes less than clean landing punches).

Saying that its more like a street fight is an absolute crap claim. You ever see someone say i quit from an armbar in a street fight? I have and guess what happens after the other guy lets go? He gets a brick to the fache.

I'm tired of the mma enthusiasts (i know a lot of them) saying boxing is less of a sport and outdated and i'm tired of dana fucking white running commercials that say and i quote "Whats real? wrestling? no. Boxing? not anymore. see whats real" WTF is that? how would he know boxing isn't real anymore its not like his panzy ass ever went pro. Yeah there's less things you can do in boxing that doesn't mean there's less skill involved. You only have two hands to work with. Guess what you can't excel in one thing in boxing and make it. You have to be good at punching defense coutering and ring management to make it. Somebody in mma could make it just know submissions and upsets happen more readily in mma than in boxing.

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It's not clear as day though. The only baddest man on the planet were Tyson and Hagler. But that's fair because they really were the baddest man on the planet. No one called Ray Leonard the baddest man on the planet, or De La Hoya, but they are two of the biggest draws in the last 30 years.

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The heavyweight world champion. The weak american heavy crop is the only real thing wrong with the sport. These bad decisions and alpha titles while around before tyson but while he was around no one really seemed to notice or complain much.

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You got exactly what I was getting at Punisher. The flagship of boxing, the pinnacle of it's glory is when we have a dominant heavyweight champion. The whole world takes notice when there is a true heavyweight champ because they are seen as the 'baddest' man alive.

Jim Jeffries, Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Luis, Rocky Marciano, Liston, Foreman, Ali, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis these guys are the real stars of boxing globally.

Being the dominnt heavyweight in a era has always been a massive badge of pride, the pinnacle of sporting achievement.

Right now there is no such champ in boxing.

MMA is striving for the same goal. If the MMA can create a truly dominant, vicious heavyweight fighting machine that can vill the void that boxing has currently made and lay claim to having the 'baddest' man on the planet in their ranks it could be a huge, momentous and historic shift as to the way both boxing and MMA are to be regarded in the future.

It may not seem much now, but in the future I expect this battle to be huge.

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It's not clear as day though. The only baddest man on the planet were Tyson and Hagler. But that's fair because they really were the baddest man on the planet. No one called Ray Leonard the baddest man on the planet, or De La Hoya, but they are two of the biggest draws in the last 30 years.

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The heavyweight world champion. The weak american heavy crop is the only real thing wrong with the sport. These bad decisions and alpha titles while around before tyson but while he was around no one really seemed to notice or complain much.

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You got exactly what I was getting at Punisher. The flagship of boxing, the pinnacle of it's glory is when we have a dominant heavyweight champion. The whole world takes notice when there is a true heavyweight champ because they are seen as the 'baddest' man alive.

Jim Jeffries, Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Luis, Rocky Marciano, Liston, Foreman, Ali, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis these guys are the real stars of boxing globally.

Being the dominnt heavyweight in a era has always been a massive badge of pride, the pinnacle of sporting achievement.

Right now there is no such champ in boxing.

MMA is striving for the same goal. If the MMA can create a truly dominant, vicious heavyweight fighting machine that can vill the void that boxing has currently made and lay claim to having the 'baddest' man on the planet in their ranks it could be a huge, momentous and historic shift as to the way both boxing and MMA are to be regarded in the future.

It may not seem much now, but in the future I expect this battle to be huge.

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honestly i'm glad theres something to challenge boxing in this way. It will make promoters traighten up their acts give us better fights and everything else. Also it gives hardcore boxing fans something to hate and new reason to appreciate their sport. I'm not saying it will be a two headed monster that co exists in the future but for the time being it can do more good than harm.

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Hey, first post..
From the reactions of my friends (who are not big boxing fans, but have their favorites and will watch the bigger name fights) it seems that it's all about perception.. The mainstream audience can just turn on a UFC fight and jump right into it and understand it because it seems more straight forward -- two men just go at it. At the end of the Liddell fight, everyone said "I heard it sucked" simply because it was an early KO, and the guy they wanted to win didn't win.. and when these are the people you're trying to sell PPV's to, then overall MMA is going to get the most money due to entertainment factors... I think that the mainstream audience may not be as entertained by a boxing chess match, where boxing fans may love it.. I think that boxing has a ridiculous amount of depth compared to MMA, but MMA is more straight forward and easier for a random person to watch..

I think a good example would be Mayweather, and how his style is nearly untouchable.. someone who purchased a PPV to watch Mayweather fight, and they see his opponent missing him constantly and Floyd sticking his shots in their, will probably be disapointed.. but i feel that when he puts on a show like that, i appreciate him that much more because of his skills.
And on the flip side you watch someone like Royce Gracie fight MMA and you see this skinny dude submitting and completely owning oversized opponents.. and unless you're a martial arts fan, or are somewhat involved or enjoy watching boxing/mma you won't appreciate his skills.. But if you see Matt Hughes or Rampage Jackson pound someone, then you consider them a great fighter..
This is a topic up for endless debate, but what it comes down to is satisfaction, and i don't think that my equivelant as an MMA fan can get as involved and excited about MMA as i do with boxing..

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That's a hell of a first post man, CC and welcome to the board. Hope you enjoy your stay. No doubt MMA is easier to get into right now because it is more engaging, also they got lLiddell as their front man. Boxing has always had the best fighters as their front man while MMA has always had their most exciting. Even when Gracie was doing his thing, Shamrock was the guy.

When boxing's best was Hagler, he attracted loads to the sport because he had an engaging style, and like the UFC, people watched him and other boxing and learned a little bit more about the sport. Now the UFC fans can appreciate people like Gracie because they learned a little bit more but it was Liddell who brought them.

That's why I like Pavlik so much because he wouldn't be to hard to market, and he is exciting.

Very good post hope you stick around.

Were Lewis and Holyfield really recognized as the baddest men on the planet? No they weren't. While I agree that America needs a very good heavyweight (Chazz and Aaron Williams ;) ), the other divisions can carry boxing and have time and time again.

I just don't think boxing is in any grave danger that's all. Maybe among certain demographics in America, but that's about it. And you're right, MMA will tighten promoters up hopefully.

Rogan is an asshole, but he makes a point. Di Bella has just added to the stuffy, old fashioned image of Boxing. Your not helping Lou. Boxing needs to say shit like Dre. "We started this pirze fighting shit, and this the motherfucking thanks we get,"

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Haha, that made me laugh CC.

And yeah, DiBella is a tosser, not to mention he can't argue a point. Thank God for Brian Kenny :D

Did I just say tosser? Fucken british lingo rubbing off >:mad

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Did I just say tosser? Fucken british lingo rubbing off >:mad

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Did I just say tosser? Fucken british lingo rubbing off >:mad

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Yeah that tends to happen. I usually catch myself before i post it but im sure one will slip out here and there.

Who is the more complete law breaker, Rogan or Lampley? We know now Rogan has pirated dvds, to prove he loves boxing.

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Who is the more complete law breaker, Rogan or Lampley? We know now Rogan has pirated dvds, to prove he loves boxing.

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C. mike tyson

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Who is the more complete law breaker, Rogan or Lampley? We know now Rogan has pirated dvds, to prove he loves boxing.

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C. mike tyson

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He said he had a stack of Willie Pep fights on dvd.

As a pirate myself I think that technically it's legal to have copies of Willie Pep fights as his fights are so old the copyright rights have expired.

Not legal to profit from them but downloading Willie Pep fights for your own use won't get you in trouble.

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well I have to say I'm dissapointed in the outcome of the fight.... but that S*** is pretty funny punisher

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If there's a fake award on this site given to the person with the best prediction of the year, I'll take my trophy now ;)

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well I have to say I'm dissapointed in the outcome of the fight.... but that S*** is pretty funny punisher

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If there's a fake award on this site given to the person with the best prediction of the year, I'll take my trophy now ;)

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Good prediction their man, I give you your props for that :P

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Thats just it lyle. Jackson and Lidell will be compared to Mayweather/de la hoya when it comes to sales figures and all that. I hope the fight ends in under 2 minutes with an anticlimatic wide open head shot.

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well I have to say I'm dissapointed in the outcome of the fight.... but that S*** is pretty funny punisher

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If there's a fake award on this site given to the person with the best prediction of the year, I'll take my trophy now ;)

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Good prediction their man, I give you your props for that :P

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Thats so terrible man i cracked up when i heard the call on a radio sports show but when i saw the actually fight footage i absolutely lost it and almost busted out the endzone dance.

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Thats just it lyle. Jackson and Lidell will be compared to Mayweather/de la hoya when it comes to sales figures and all that. I hope the fight ends in under 2 minutes with an anticlimatic wide open head shot.

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well I have to say I'm dissapointed in the outcome of the fight.... but that S*** is pretty funny punisher

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If there's a fake award on this site given to the person with the best prediction of the year, I'll take my trophy now ;)

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Good prediction their man, I give you your props for that :P

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Thats so terrible man i cracked up when i heard the call on a radio sports show but when i saw the actually fight footage i absolutely lost it and almost busted out the endzone dance.

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Nothing better than gloating when you get it dead right, me and the Duke were much the same last week after the Kavlik Miranda fight 8)

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Thats just it lyle. Jackson and Lidell will be compared to Mayweather/de la hoya when it comes to sales figures and all that. I hope the fight ends in under 2 minutes with an anticlimatic wide open head shot.

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well I have to say I'm dissapointed in the outcome of the fight.... but that S*** is pretty funny punisher

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If there's a fake award on this site given to the person with the best prediction of the year, I'll take my trophy now ;)

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Good prediction their man, I give you your props for that :P

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Thats so terrible man i cracked up when i heard the call on a radio sports show but when i saw the actually fight footage i absolutely lost it and almost busted out the endzone dance.

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If you really believed it though you'd have put some money on it (Like I did ;) ) and got yo self PAID! I had $200 on it, got $550

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Rogan is an asshole, but he makes a point. Di Bella has just added to the stuffy, old fashioned image of Boxing. Your not helping Lou. Boxing needs to say S*** like Dre. "We started this pirze fighting S***, and this the motherfucking thanks we get,"

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Yep a good knock is way more pleasing to the crowd than a rear naked choke , a triangle or a arm or leg bar.

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Rogan is an asshole, but he makes a point. Di Bella has just added to the stuffy, old fashioned image of Boxing. Your not helping Lou. Boxing needs to say S*** like Dre. "We started this pirze fighting S***, and this the motherfucking thanks we get,"

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Yep a good knock is way more pleasing to the crowd than a rear naked choke , a triangle or a arm or leg bar.

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Whats up with Rogans attire.What is he in middle school.Represent your sport man. Appearances is everything.Even Floyd Mayweather Sr. looked better than him.Turn your hat around and pull up your pants.

....hey Joe Rogan, you want to fight like a girl, go right ahead!

Lou DiBella did an ok job of telling boxing's side but who would do a better job???


DON KING....he's a liar a thief and a murderer but damn if he can't tell it like it is



Meatheads and little kids who get bullied like MMA....the argument alone gives MMA waaaaaaay too much publicity!

Well most people would do a better job...I would like to think I would do a better job. Maybe get Max Kellerman or Brian Kenny, not Lou Dibella.

Hey, ask Joe Rogan if that "shoulder roll" would have helped Liddell last night....no place in a street fight for that my ass....even Kimbo uses bobbing and weaving

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Thats just it lyle. Jackson and Lidell will be compared to Mayweather/de la hoya when it comes to sales figures and all that. I hope the fight ends in under 2 minutes with an anticlimatic wide open head shot.

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well I have to say I'm dissapointed in the outcome of the fight.... but that S*** is pretty funny punisher

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If there's a fake award on this site given to the person with the best prediction of the year, I'll take my trophy now   ;)

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Good prediction their man, I give you your props for that  :P

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Thats so terrible man i cracked up when i heard the call on a radio sports show but when i saw the actually fight footage i absolutely lost it and almost busted out the endzone dance.

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If you really believed it though you'd have put some money on it (Like I did ;) ) and got yo self PAID! I had $200 on it, got $550

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Trust me i know how my life works. If i would've put money on it being a snorefest followed by lame ko it would've been the most spectacular mma fight of all time and it would've end with a 5th round ko with about 10 seconds left.  :(