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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Steve Collins called him out-he melted
Benn-he melted
Calzaghe-he melted
Eubank-not sure if im honest
Collins retired not long after he made a name for himself
Benn ?? well i don't know about that
Calzaghe ?? are you kidding me Jones moved up to Lightheavyweight in 1997 and Calzaghe hadn't even won title off faded Eubank then why would he bother ??
Eubank wouldn't ever go to USA
mate waren offered Roy over 5mill numerous times to figth calzaghe after calzaghe had beaten eubank and roy was considerd to be p4p 1/2 in the world lol...
And was Joe willing to come to USA ?? or move up to Lightheavyweight ?? i highly doubt it.
Roy jones was the one who said he would come down to SMW for it... knowing he would be mroe effective at smw...
Yes I remember. Jones did offer to move back to 168 for a fight with Calzaghe. And Joe said he would come to the US. The fight talk ended when Calzaghe demanded equal pay. It's seems Calzaghe's groupies always leave that little part out.
you always post stuff liek this but never once been able to give us a link to some real source... u said this about hopkins to, it gets borring mate...
Because you always provide links for your posts right?
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
to say RJJ ducked no one is stupid, it is well know he ducked a couple of fighters
which have been named in previous posts
What was the deal ?? maybe you misread my posts i said i didn't know about Benn after Gerald incident maybe Jones did get cold feet but Jones did fight quality opposition and until i see proof that Jones ducked Collins Benn Eubank honestly give me a break Eubank would never fight in USA and Calzaghe wasn't even a name in USA when Jones was top dog.
Calzaghe isn't a name now.
Still when a fight has to be made and it's clear and it isn't then questions will arise....
Monzon wasn't a name here in the States and he came in and beat Benvenutti.
Pac wasn't a name here and he came in and destroyed Ledwaba.
The point is the fights were there for RJJ to make he was the man here and HE should have made the fights happen for him for his legacy.
Not really though only Dariusz Michalczewski I can't really think of many others maybe rematch with Hopkins.
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Steve Collins called him out-he melted
Benn-he melted
Calzaghe-he melted
Eubank-not sure if im honest
Collins retired not long after he made a name for himself
Benn ?? well i don't know about that
Calzaghe ?? are you kidding me Jones moved up to Lightheavyweight in 1997 and Calzaghe hadn't even won title off faded Eubank then why would he bother ??
Eubank wouldn't ever go to USA
mate waren offered Roy over 5mill numerous times to figth calzaghe after calzaghe had beaten eubank and roy was considerd to be p4p 1/2 in the world lol...
And was Joe willing to come to USA ?? or move up to Lightheavyweight ?? i highly doubt it.
Roy jones was the one who said he would come down to SMW for it... knowing he would be mroe effective at smw...
Yes I remember. Jones did offer to move back to 168 for a fight with Calzaghe. And Joe said he would come to the US. The fight talk ended when Calzaghe demanded equal pay. It's seems Calzaghe's groupies always leave that little part out.
you always post stuff liek this but never once been able to give us a link to some real source... u said this about hopkins to, it gets borring mate...
Because you always provide links for your posts right?
yep;) the oens aboutthe hopkins doubling 3mil, the offes of rjj for over 5mill etc...
you seen and commented on them, so don't waste my time asing for themagain there matey
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
Come on fellas who gives a crap what happened 10 years ago, we'll never know, all we have is one promoter's word against the either, and none of em are saints. Let's focus on the issue at hand, calzaghe and kessler are finally getting it on!!!! I had lost faith in this comming off, and I don't want to get overly excited cause who knows what could happen between now and november but shit I can't help it. This ought to be freaking awesome, and I'm going with cal by decision, well only 4 months to go now.
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
to say RJJ ducked no one is stupid, it is well know he ducked a couple of fighters
which have been named in previous posts
What was the deal ?? maybe you misread my posts i said i didn't know about Benn after Gerald incident maybe Jones did get cold feet but Jones did fight quality opposition and until i see proof that Jones ducked Collins Benn Eubank honestly give me a break Eubank would never fight in USA and Calzaghe wasn't even a name in USA when Jones was top dog.
Calzaghe isn't a name now.
Still when a fight has to be made and it's clear and it isn't then questions will arise....
Monzon wasn't a name here in the States and he came in and beat Benvenutti.
Pac wasn't a name here and he came in and destroyed Ledwaba.
The point is the fights were there for RJJ to make he was the man here and HE should have made the fights happen for him for his legacy.
Not really though only Dariusz Michalczewski I can't really think of many others maybe rematch with Hopkins.
Add 2 more to the list....
I mean Dariusz was there what happened.
But anyway judging by how you see things Dariusz was tailor made for RJJ and RJJ would have a field day with Dariusz, Hopkins in the rematch, Collins.
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Steve Collins called him out-he melted
Benn-he melted
Calzaghe-he melted
Eubank-not sure if im honest
Collins retired not long after he made a name for himself
Benn ?? well i don't know about that
Calzaghe ?? are you kidding me Jones moved up to Lightheavyweight in 1997 and Calzaghe hadn't even won title off faded Eubank then why would he bother ??
Eubank wouldn't ever go to USA
mate waren offered Roy over 5mill numerous times to figth calzaghe after calzaghe had beaten eubank and roy was considerd to be p4p 1/2 in the world lol...
And was Joe willing to come to USA ?? or move up to Lightheavyweight ?? i highly doubt it.
Roy jones was the one who said he would come down to SMW for it... knowing he would be mroe effective at smw...
Yes I remember. Jones did offer to move back to 168 for a fight with Calzaghe. And Joe said he would come to the US. The fight talk ended when Calzaghe demanded equal pay. It's seems Calzaghe's groupies always leave that little part out.
you always post stuff liek this but never once been able to give us a link to some real source... u said this about hopkins to, it gets borring mate...
Because you always provide links for your posts right?
yep;) the oens aboutthe hopkins doubling 3mil, the offes of rjj for over 5mill etc...
you seen and commented on them, so don't waste my time asing for themagain there matey
It's the same shit over and over. Big fights don't get made. And it's always somebody else's fault. Never Calzaghe's. Whatever helps you sleep at night, boy.
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
Well I think we can all see quite clearly that Joe and Frank to give them some credit are and have been throughout in the driving seat, no?
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
to say RJJ ducked no one is stupid, it is well know he ducked a couple of fighters
which have been named in previous posts
What was the deal ?? maybe you misread my posts i said i didn't know about Benn after Gerald incident maybe Jones did get cold feet but Jones did fight quality opposition and until i see proof that Jones ducked Collins Benn Eubank honestly give me a break Eubank would never fight in USA and Calzaghe wasn't even a name in USA when Jones was top dog.
Calzaghe isn't a name now.
Still when a fight has to be made and it's clear and it isn't then questions will arise....
Monzon wasn't a name here in the States and he came in and beat Benvenutti.
Pac wasn't a name here and he came in and destroyed Ledwaba.
The point is the fights were there for RJJ to make he was the man here and HE should have made the fights happen for him for his legacy.
Not really though only Dariusz Michalczewski I can't really think of many others maybe rematch with Hopkins.
Add 2 more to the list....
I mean Dariusz was there what happened.
But anyway judging by how you see things Dariusz was tailor made for RJJ and RJJ would have a field day with Dariusz, Hopkins in the rematch, Collins.
I think Jones would struggle with Hopkins but others he would beat convincing im sorry Mick but i think Jones was special skillwise and he was leagues ahead of most people i mean he made Toney look foolish winning almost every round Jones was special like SRR was like Ali was ect we only get this type of boxers once in blue moon and im glad i was able to see it.
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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So this is like the 5th time this fight has been made official... Like Mick said, I won't believe it until the actually get into the ring
CC# 98 on me CFH for being smart enough to realize how many times this fights been official. :(
Sorry Mick, but can you link me to when this fight has been made official before? I confess, I have followed the saga with interest and think you're being dramatic and not actually reading what is published, the last one I remember was that they were awaiting contracts to fight in Denmark. S***, I reckon you just don't like him eh? ;)
I like Joe I think hes a skilled fighter.
I have issues with the qaulity of his opposition just like I have it with RJJ, Pryor and Zarate.
But as a fighter I think hes talented.
It just so happens that I've been following Kess before he was champ and hes been my guy since then and will be for this matchup. S***! I was riding Kess off for not having the balls to take the fight to Joe got through some of my posts.
I was pissed at both soo no hating here. Just happy that it appears like the matchups happening and heres hoping Kess can bring his A game that night and do what he does best.
Roy Jones beat
Virgil Hill
Bernard Hopkins
James Toney
Montell Griffin
Clinton Woods
Vinny Pazienza
Thulani Malinga
Reggie Johnson
Eric Harding
Who else could Roy Jones have fought ??
And same goes for Pryor he was the one calling out Leonard and Leonard moved up to avoid Pryor and Pryor also wanted Duran its not Pryors fault big fights didn't happen he was also going to fight Ray Mancini until Mancini was upset by Livingstone Bramble.
Michaelshevski was the best fight out there fr a long time
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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So this is like the 5th time this fight has been made official... Like Mick said, I won't believe it until the actually get into the ring
CC# 98 on me CFH for being smart enough to realize how many times this fights been official. :(
Sorry Mick, but can you link me to when this fight has been made official before? I confess, I have followed the saga with interest and think you're being dramatic and not actually reading what is published, the last one I remember was that they were awaiting contracts to fight in Denmark. S***, I reckon you just don't like him eh? ;)
I like Joe I think hes a skilled fighter.
I have issues with the qaulity of his opposition just like I have it with RJJ, Pryor and Zarate.
But as a fighter I think hes talented.
It just so happens that I've been following Kess before he was champ and hes been my guy since then and will be for this matchup. S***! I was riding Kess off for not having the balls to take the fight to Joe got through some of my posts.
I was pissed at both soo no hating here. Just happy that it appears like the matchups happening and heres hoping Kess can bring his A game that night and do what he does best.
Roy Jones beat
Virgil Hill
Bernard Hopkins
James Toney
Montell Griffin
Clinton Woods
Vinny Pazienza
Thulani Malinga
Reggie Johnson
Eric Harding
Who else could Roy Jones have fought ??
And same goes for Pryor he was the one calling out Leonard and Leonard moved up to avoid Pryor and Pryor also wanted Duran its not Pryors fault big fights didn't happen he was also going to fight Ray Mancini until Mancini was upset by Livingstone Bramble.
Michaelshevski was the best fight out there fr a long time
Yeah but he never wanted to leave home. If he would of came to the US and at least try and force to issue it would of been different. But he didn't. He needed Jones more than Jones needed him.
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Re: < Let's get one thing straight here in regards to Kess vs. Joe.... >
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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OK,
Reading the *Official* thread and some comments being made about the aftermaths of the fight.
Let's get one thing straight here....
Whoevers the dumb! F*** to come on here and start S***! and ride of Kess is just that a fwocken idiot.
Heres what I'm getting to.....
If Joe beats Kess regardless of how he does it, Joe will have earned the respect he has been claiming.
Whoever thinks otherwise is just a wanker and is here to start S***.
Not only that but if Joe embaresses Kess whoa!! he will def. catapult in all-time rankings and def. as one of the best fighters of our times.
I mean these are 2 fighters in their primes, undefeated, established Champs with decent records some questionable opponents. Some people say Kess has fought the more prominent names some people say Joes the one with the better quality of opposition. Whatever the case maybe they are fighting eachother and all that goes out the window come that night.
But you can't discredit their undefeated records either cause they also make for interesting talk. This is like Lloyd vs. Donald, 'Finito' vs. Alvarez as far as records or like Gonzalez vs. Carbajal, Naz vs. MAB, ODLH vs. SSM as far as fighters at their best at the time of the fight.
Also the same should apply for Kess if he defeats Joe. No excuses if Joe is the man at SMW and is defeated by Kess then Kess becomes the man at SMW.
So please Kess fans be gracious in victory and defeat don't come here just talking S***! Some of you guys give him a bad name with some of the stuff you guys post. I know those memmbers are no longer here :flush:
but to those who may come give credit to whoever wins. I know I will.
8)
The fight is in Wales. If Kessler dominates Calzaghe but for some reason does not get the decision. I will give Calzaghe no credit what's so ever.
What if we turn that statement on it's head..would you give Kessler any credit?
Joe was willing to travel to Denmark which is fact and financially it makes no sense for either to fight their so he can't be blamed really can he?
Oh I think there's more of a chance of Calzaghe getting a shady deal than Kessler. But if so I will give Kessler no credit as well.
and if calzaghe wins clearly, then what?
you gunna give him respect, or just talk about how he 'ducked' johnson or his a hometown fighter?
Violent D does not shy away from giving a fighter his due if it's earned. Question is can you Preme (the one with the Calzaghe poster on his bed room wall) admit your fighter is overrated if he was to easily get blown out?
Sorry im not a kid with posters on his walls or gets sent to juvi like some postes on here ::**
you already asked me this, and i answerd you... Plain and simple yes... but i know it wont happen;)
Any fighter who is said to be world class and gets 'blow out' would be overrated...
I ain't been to juvi in 13 years.
whata guy;)
We can't all grow up in an environment were you play video game all day long and have your mommy read you a bed time story before going to bed.
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
that is great to hear. i have wanted to see this fight for ages and it will finally happen.
good news.
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
Well I will believe it when i see it! The Big K man will put out Joe Ball's lights by the 10th if it happens!
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Re: < Let's get one thing straight here in regards to Kess vs. Joe.... >
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
OK,
Reading the *Official* thread and some comments being made about the aftermaths of the fight.
Let's get one thing straight here....
Whoevers the dumb! F*** to come on here and start S***! and ride of Kess is just that a fwocken idiot.
Heres what I'm getting to.....
If Joe beats Kess regardless of how he does it, Joe will have earned the respect he has been claiming.
Whoever thinks otherwise is just a wanker and is here to start S***.
Not only that but if Joe embaresses Kess whoa!! he will def. catapult in all-time rankings and def. as one of the best fighters of our times.
I mean these are 2 fighters in their primes, undefeated, established Champs with decent records some questionable opponents. Some people say Kess has fought the more prominent names some people say Joes the one with the better quality of opposition. Whatever the case maybe they are fighting eachother and all that goes out the window come that night.
But you can't discredit their undefeated records either cause they also make for interesting talk. This is like Lloyd vs. Donald, 'Finito' vs. Alvarez as far as records or like Gonzalez vs. Carbajal, Naz vs. MAB, ODLH vs. SSM as far as fighters at their best at the time of the fight.
Also the same should apply for Kess if he defeats Joe. No excuses if Joe is the man at SMW and is defeated by Kess then Kess becomes the man at SMW.
So please Kess fans be gracious in victory and defeat don't come here just talking S***! Some of you guys give him a bad name with some of the stuff you guys post. I know those memmbers are no longer here :flush:
but to those who may come give credit to whoever wins. I know I will.
8)
It's the fight this division needs and boxing fans worldwide are looking forward to the most.
I don't think the Super Middleweight division has ever had a fight this big before?
You are spot on when you say both guys deserve respect for this, I personally think Kessler will win but i've seen him up close against Mundine. Calzaghe is unbeaten and you can't do any better than that.
This fight will be HUGE!!!
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regardless of who wins I want to see the victor fight the Pavlik/Taylor winner....and then the winner (as long as its not JT) fight the Winky/Bhop winner
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Re: < Let's get one thing straight here in regards to Kess vs. Joe.... >
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Preme
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OK,
Reading the *Official* thread and some comments being made about the aftermaths of the fight.
Let's get one thing straight here....
Whoevers the dumb! F*** to come on here and start S***! and ride of Kess is just that a fwocken idiot.
Heres what I'm getting to.....
If Joe beats Kess regardless of how he does it, Joe will have earned the respect he has been claiming.
Whoever thinks otherwise is just a wanker and is here to start S***.
Not only that but if Joe embaresses Kess whoa!! he will def. catapult in all-time rankings and def. as one of the best fighters of our times.
I mean these are 2 fighters in their primes, undefeated, established Champs with decent records some questionable opponents. Some people say Kess has fought the more prominent names some people say Joes the one with the better quality of opposition. Whatever the case maybe they are fighting eachother and all that goes out the window come that night.
But you can't discredit their undefeated records either cause they also make for interesting talk. This is like Lloyd vs. Donald, 'Finito' vs. Alvarez as far as records or like Gonzalez vs. Carbajal, Naz vs. MAB, ODLH vs. SSM as far as fighters at their best at the time of the fight.
Also the same should apply for Kess if he defeats Joe. No excuses if Joe is the man at SMW and is defeated by Kess then Kess becomes the man at SMW.
So please Kess fans be gracious in victory and defeat don't come here just talking S***! Some of you guys give him a bad name with some of the stuff you guys post. I know those memmbers are no longer here :flush:
but to those who may come give credit to whoever wins. I know I will.
8)
The fight is in Wales. If Kessler dominates Calzaghe but for some reason does not get the decision. I will give Calzaghe no credit what's so ever.
What if we turn that statement on it's head..would you give Kessler any credit?
Joe was willing to travel to Denmark which is fact and financially it makes no sense for either to fight their so he can't be blamed really can he?
Oh I think there's more of a chance of Calzaghe getting a shady deal than Kessler. But if so I will give Kessler no credit as well.
and if calzaghe wins clearly, then what?
you gunna give him respect, or just talk about how he 'ducked' johnson or his a hometown fighter?
Violent D does not shy away from giving a fighter his due if it's earned. Question is can you Preme (the one with the Calzaghe poster on his bed room wall) admit your fighter is overrated if he was to easily get blown out?
Sorry im not a kid with posters on his walls or gets sent to juvi like some postes on here ::**
you already asked me this, and i answerd you... Plain and simple yes... but i know it wont happen;)
Any fighter who is said to be world class and gets 'blow out' would be overrated...
I ain't been to juvi in 13 years.
whata guy;)
We can't all grow up in an environment were you play video game all day long and have your mommy read you a bed time story before going to bed.
HA FUKKIN HA! CC to VD,that was good.
heres my short take on the fight...
I REALLY doubt the fight will take place on the planned date. Joe will hurt his hands in training. Joe will have to fight before his hands are healed(which really is a moot point because I dont think his hands will ever be ok). Joe will not be able to throw real hard shots,Kess will gain confidence as Joes punch wont hurt and then I see Kess just stalking and throwing bombs at Joe. Kess by KO or UD.
But no matter what, this is the fight we have been bitching about for a long time and im just glad its finally going to happen.
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regardless of who wins I want to see the victor fight the Pavlik/Taylor winner....and then the winner (as long as its not JT) fight the Winky/Bhop winner
Good call dude im thinking the same.
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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It's the same S*** over and over. Big fights don't get made. And it's always somebody else's fault. Never Calzaghe's. Whatever helps you sleep at night, boy.
Sorry VD bro, but every Calzaghe thread is littered with you spouting off about how every fight has failed to be made because Calzaghe's a b***h, he's a coward, yadda yadda yadda, well for f**k's sake they are going to get in the ring now, cause it's what everyon wants. And on sheer probabilities, all the fights will not have fallen through cause of problems on Joe's side, there are other fighters that also don't make fights y'know.
And I'm going to raise an oft-voiced opinion in that you just love hating on the brits cause it winds people up. (Did anyone see that BBC documentary on the Scientologists?). "Well buddy, you got it. I'm angry. Real Angry."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3Y4...watch_response
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
It's the same S*** over and over. Big fights don't get made. And it's always somebody else's fault. Never Calzaghe's. Whatever helps you sleep at night, boy.
Sorry VD bro, but every Calzaghe thread is littered with you spouting off about how every fight has failed to be made because Calzaghe's a b***h, he's a coward, yadda yadda yadda, well for f**k's sake they are going to get in the ring now, cause it's what everyon wants. And on sheer probabilities, all the fights will not have fallen through cause of problems on Joe's side, there are other fighters that also don't make fights y'know.
And I'm going to raise an oft-voiced opinion in that you just love hating on the brits cause it winds people up. (Did anyone see that BBC documentary on the Scientologists?). "Well buddy, you got it. I'm angry. Real Angry."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3Y4...watch_response
And every thread is filled with Calzaghe being avoided left and right. Which is straight bullshit. But the fight is now set. And hopefully it'll go on without any postponements.
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
And every thread is filled with Calzaghe being avoided left and right. Which is straight bullshit. But the fight is now set. And hopefully it'll go on without any postponements.
You ought to come over for the fight mate, we might be a small nation of sheep farmers and call centre workers, but we know how to lash like kings, I'll hold a pint of Brains SA for you ;)
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Re: < Let's get one thing straight here in regards to Kess vs. Joe.... >
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
OK,
Reading the *Official* thread and some comments being made about the aftermaths of the fight.
Let's get one thing straight here....
Whoevers the dumb! F*** to come on here and start S***! and ride of Kess is just that a fwocken idiot.
Heres what I'm getting to.....
If Joe beats Kess regardless of how he does it, Joe will have earned the respect he has been claiming.
Whoever thinks otherwise is just a wanker and is here to start S***.
Not only that but if Joe embaresses Kess whoa!! he will def. catapult in all-time rankings and def. as one of the best fighters of our times.
I mean these are 2 fighters in their primes, undefeated, established Champs with decent records some questionable opponents. Some people say Kess has fought the more prominent names some people say Joes the one with the better quality of opposition. Whatever the case maybe they are fighting eachother and all that goes out the window come that night.
But you can't discredit their undefeated records either cause they also make for interesting talk. This is like Lloyd vs. Donald, 'Finito' vs. Alvarez as far as records or like Gonzalez vs. Carbajal, Naz vs. MAB, ODLH vs. SSM as far as fighters at their best at the time of the fight.
Also the same should apply for Kess if he defeats Joe. No excuses if Joe is the man at SMW and is defeated by Kess then Kess becomes the man at SMW.
So please Kess fans be gracious in victory and defeat don't come here just talking S***! Some of you guys give him a bad name with some of the stuff you guys post. I know those memmbers are no longer here :flush:
but to those who may come give credit to whoever wins. I know I will.
8)
If Calzaghe beats Kessler with no contraversy EG quick stoppage of some other BS I will give him his due.
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
UNtil the first punch is thrown I will not believe it. Again Whiney ASS Calzaghe and His crooked handler had to have their way and fight in Joe's hometown.
No matter what the outcome He still does not have the balls to fight anywhere but home or at least close to it.
Just to shut some people up 2 fights outside of England and Wales do not count as venturing out.
and to further get rid of stupid replies NO HE DOES NOT HAVE TO COME TO AMERICA.....I could care less if it was Australia
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
UNtil the first punch is thrown I will not believe it. Again Whiney ASS Calzaghe and His crooked handler had to have their way and fight in Joe's hometown.
No matter what the outcome He still does not have the balls to fight anywhere but home or at least close to it.
Just to shut some people up 2 fights outside of England and Wales do not count as venturing out.
and to further get rid of stupid replies NO HE DOES NOT HAVE TO COME TO AMERICA.....I could care less if it was Australia
My man Daxx telling it like it is
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
UNtil the first punch is thrown I will not believe it. Again Whiney a** Calzaghe and His crooked handler had to have their way and fight in Joe's hometown.
No matter what the outcome He still does not have the balls to fight anywhere but home or at least close to it.
Just to shut some people up 2 fights outside of England and Wales do not count as venturing out.
and to further get rid of stupid replies NO HE DOES NOT HAVE TO COME TO AMERICA.....I could care less if it was Australia
Show me an arena where the fight can make as much money through ticket sales as they can in the Millenium Stadium....it's gonna be one of the biggest boxing crowds ever. They tried to get the fight made in Denmark but Mogens Palle couldn't offer his own fighter enough money....so they had to come to Britain. It is, quite simply, a question of maths, and making the biggest amount of money. Or are they in this game to earn respect from their peers?
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
If it's cancelled then I will start making "I hate Joe" posters and t-shirts.
You guys could buy them for $15 a piece. ;)
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
If it's cancelled then I will start making "I hate Joe" posters and t-shirts.
You guys could buy them for $15 a piece. ;)
What's the shipping on those? ;)
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
UNtil the first punch is thrown I will not believe it. Again Whiney a** Calzaghe and His crooked handler had to have their way and fight in Joe's hometown.
No matter what the outcome He still does not have the balls to fight anywhere but home or at least close to it.
Just to shut some people up 2 fights outside of England and Wales do not count as venturing out.
and to further get rid of stupid replies NO HE DOES NOT HAVE TO COME TO AMERICA.....I could care less if it was Australia
Show me an arena where the fight can make as much money through ticket sales as they can in the Millenium Stadium....it's gonna be one of the biggest boxing crowds ever. They tried to get the fight made in Denmark but Mogens Palle couldn't offer his own fighter enough money....so they had to come to Britain. It is, quite simply, a question of maths, and making the biggest amount of money. Or are they in this game to earn respect from their peers?
You are right it is all about money with Joe. Thats why he doesnt get respect from his peers. As if Joe needs more money at this stage in his career. If he is a multi millionaire what more does he need?
Twenty years from now he'll be known as a fighter who dodged most of the top fighters of his era, only fought at home and was all about the money. Compare that with someone like Winky Wright who would never make as much as Joe but in twenty years time will be remembered and respected fo fighting the top guys anywhere.
I tell u now he would fill a huge stadium if he came to australia and fought Mundine. Mundine v Green had like 30000 and a fight against Calzaghe would draw a bigger crowd. Calzaghe v RJJ five years ago would have filled a big stadium and made Joe loads of money.
So dont talk rubbish.
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
It's about time. Good news to hear it's set though!
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by Galaxy76
It's about time. Good news to hear it's set though!
thats what I say
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
Every fighter who dissed joe by saying he was a weak slapper seemed to always get slapped silly.
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Re: < Let's get one thing straight here in regards to Kess vs. Joe.... >
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
OK,
Reading the *Official* thread and some comments being made about the aftermaths of the fight.
Let's get one thing straight here....
Whoevers the dumb! F*** to come on here and start S***! and ride of Kess is just that a fwocken idiot.
Heres what I'm getting to.....
If Joe beats Kess regardless of how he does it, Joe will have earned the respect he has been claiming.
Whoever thinks otherwise is just a wanker and is here to start S***.
Not only that but if Joe embaresses Kess whoa!! he will def. catapult in all-time rankings and def. as one of the best fighters of our times.
I mean these are 2 fighters in their primes, undefeated, established Champs with decent records some questionable opponents. Some people say Kess has fought the more prominent names some people say Joes the one with the better quality of opposition. Whatever the case maybe they are fighting eachother and all that goes out the window come that night.
But you can't discredit their undefeated records either cause they also make for interesting talk. This is like Lloyd vs. Donald, 'Finito' vs. Alvarez as far as records or like Gonzalez vs. Carbajal, Naz vs. MAB, ODLH vs. SSM as far as fighters at their best at the time of the fight.
Also the same should apply for Kess if he defeats Joe. No excuses if Joe is the man at SMW and is defeated by Kess then Kess becomes the man at SMW.
So please Kess fans be gracious in victory and defeat don't come here just talking S***! Some of you guys give him a bad name with some of the stuff you guys post. I know those memmbers are no longer here :flush:
but to those who may come give credit to whoever wins. I know I will.
8)
Joe in my opinion will never be regarded as an all time great by old time boxing purists :)
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Re: < Let's get one thing straight here in regards to Kess vs. Joe.... >
I hope Joe fights his Jeff Lacy style, fast paced high octane. That stuff is cool. O0
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
UNtil the first punch is thrown I will not believe it. Again Whiney a** Calzaghe and His crooked handler had to have their way and fight in Joe's hometown.
No matter what the outcome He still does not have the balls to fight anywhere but home or at least close to it.
Just to shut some people up 2 fights outside of England and Wales do not count as venturing out.
and to further get rid of stupid replies NO HE DOES NOT HAVE TO COME TO AMERICA.....I could care less if it was Australia
Show me an arena where the fight can make as much money through ticket sales as they can in the Millenium Stadium....it's gonna be one of the biggest boxing crowds ever. They tried to get the fight made in Denmark but Mogens Palle couldn't offer his own fighter enough money....so they had to come to Britain. It is, quite simply, a question of maths, and making the biggest amount of money. Or are they in this game to earn respect from their peers?
You are right it is all about money with Joe. Thats why he doesnt get respect from his peers. As if Joe needs more money at this stage in his career. If he is a multi millionaire what more does he need?
Twenty years from now he'll be known as a fighter who dodged most of the top fighters of his era, only fought at home and was all about the money. Compare that with someone like Winky Wright who would never make as much as Joe but in twenty years time will be remembered and respected fo fighting the top guys anywhere.
I tell u now he would fill a huge stadium if he came to australia and fought Mundine. Mundine v Green had like 30000 and a fight against Calzaghe would draw a bigger crowd. Calzaghe v RJJ five years ago would have filled a big stadium and made Joe loads of money.
So dont talk rubbish.
I dont care about where Calzaghe fights. I care about who he fights.
Now he is taking the best fight possible - and if you actually would prefer him to take on Mundine instead of Kessler, let me know, as I will might as well stop the discussion right there - and people are blaming him for staging it where the most money is?
'Sure, Millenium Stadium is better for both fighter's fans, worth more for both fighters, will have greater atmosphere etc, but I still think they should prove themselves by fighting it on a another continent.' Seriously?
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by Mikkel_K
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
UNtil the first punch is thrown I will not believe it. Again Whiney a** Calzaghe and His crooked handler had to have their way and fight in Joe's hometown.
No matter what the outcome He still does not have the balls to fight anywhere but home or at least close to it.
Just to shut some people up 2 fights outside of England and Wales do not count as venturing out.
and to further get rid of stupid replies NO HE DOES NOT HAVE TO COME TO AMERICA.....I could care less if it was Australia
Show me an arena where the fight can make as much money through ticket sales as they can in the Millenium Stadium....it's gonna be one of the biggest boxing crowds ever. They tried to get the fight made in Denmark but Mogens Palle couldn't offer his own fighter enough money....so they had to come to Britain. It is, quite simply, a question of maths, and making the biggest amount of money. Or are they in this game to earn respect from their peers?
You are right it is all about money with Joe. Thats why he doesnt get respect from his peers. As if Joe needs more money at this stage in his career. If he is a multi millionaire what more does he need?
Twenty years from now he'll be known as a fighter who dodged most of the top fighters of his era, only fought at home and was all about the money. Compare that with someone like Winky Wright who would never make as much as Joe but in twenty years time will be remembered and respected fo fighting the top guys anywhere.
I tell u now he would fill a huge stadium if he came to australia and fought Mundine. Mundine v Green had like 30000 and a fight against Calzaghe would draw a bigger crowd. Calzaghe v RJJ five years ago would have filled a big stadium and made Joe loads of money.
So dont talk rubbish.
I dont care about where Calzaghe fights. I care about who he fights.
Now he is taking the best fight possible - and if you actually would prefer him to take on Mundine instead of Kessler, let me know, as I will might as well stop the discussion right there - and people are blaming him for staging it where the most money is?
'Sure, Millenium Stadium is better for both fighter's fans, worth more for both fighters, will have greater atmosphere etc, but I still think they should prove themselves by fighting it on a another continent.' Seriously?
didn't think i would ever find my self CC'ing someone on here called mikkel_k.. but shit i just done it...
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Mikkel_K
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
UNtil the first punch is thrown I will not believe it. Again Whiney a** Calzaghe and His crooked handler had to have their way and fight in Joe's hometown.
No matter what the outcome He still does not have the balls to fight anywhere but home or at least close to it.
Just to shut some people up 2 fights outside of England and Wales do not count as venturing out.
and to further get rid of stupid replies NO HE DOES NOT HAVE TO COME TO AMERICA.....I could care less if it was Australia
Show me an arena where the fight can make as much money through ticket sales as they can in the Millenium Stadium....it's gonna be one of the biggest boxing crowds ever. They tried to get the fight made in Denmark but Mogens Palle couldn't offer his own fighter enough money....so they had to come to Britain. It is, quite simply, a question of maths, and making the biggest amount of money. Or are they in this game to earn respect from their peers?
You are right it is all about money with Joe. Thats why he doesnt get respect from his peers. As if Joe needs more money at this stage in his career. If he is a multi millionaire what more does he need?
Twenty years from now he'll be known as a fighter who dodged most of the top fighters of his era, only fought at home and was all about the money. Compare that with someone like Winky Wright who would never make as much as Joe but in twenty years time will be remembered and respected fo fighting the top guys anywhere.
I tell u now he would fill a huge stadium if he came to australia and fought Mundine. Mundine v Green had like 30000 and a fight against Calzaghe would draw a bigger crowd. Calzaghe v RJJ five years ago would have filled a big stadium and made Joe loads of money.
So dont talk rubbish.
I dont care about where Calzaghe fights. I care about who he fights.
Now he is taking the best fight possible - and if you actually would prefer him to take on Mundine instead of Kessler, let me know, as I will might as well stop the discussion right there - and people are blaming him for staging it where the most money is?
'Sure, Millenium Stadium is better for both fighter's fans, worth more for both fighters, will have greater atmosphere etc, but I still think they should prove themselves by fighting it on a another continent.' Seriously?
didn't think i would ever find my self CC'ing someone on here called mikkel_k.. but S*** i just done it...
I'm with Preme and Mikkel on this one, and I'm sorry nonito, or eagle, or whatever else your alias might be, but you seem to have completely missed the point i was making. It was inevitable that they would have to fight each other, so should they each take the biggest payday they can by fighting in Cardiff, or should they both come to Australia and fight before about 50 people, just to prove a point? And the atmosphere at the stadium will be unrivalled, so on this one, I'm afraid, you're the one who's talking rubbish.
And CC Mikkel....i can't wait until fight night and to have a bit of banter with the Danish fans beforehand in the pubs around town.
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Re: < Let's get one thing straight here in regards to Kess vs. Joe.... >
Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMick
OK,
Reading the *Official* thread and some comments being made about the aftermaths of the fight.
Let's get one thing straight here....
Whoevers the dumb! F*** to come on here and start S***! and ride of Kess is just that a fwocken idiot.
Heres what I'm getting to.....
If Joe beats Kess regardless of how he does it, Joe will have earned the respect he has been claiming.
Whoever thinks otherwise is just a wanker and is here to start S***.
Not only that but if Joe embaresses Kess whoa!! he will def. catapult in all-time rankings and def. as one of the best fighters of our times.
I mean these are 2 fighters in their primes, undefeated, established Champs with decent records some questionable opponents. Some people say Kess has fought the more prominent names some people say Joes the one with the better quality of opposition. Whatever the case maybe they are fighting eachother and all that goes out the window come that night.
But you can't discredit their undefeated records either cause they also make for interesting talk. This is like Lloyd vs. Donald, 'Finito' vs. Alvarez as far as records or like Gonzalez vs. Carbajal, Naz vs. MAB, ODLH vs. SSM as far as fighters at their best at the time of the fight.
Also the same should apply for Kess if he defeats Joe. No excuses if Joe is the man at SMW and is defeated by Kess then Kess becomes the man at SMW.
So please Kess fans be gracious in victory and defeat don't come here just talking S***! Some of you guys give him a bad name with some of the stuff you guys post. I know those memmbers are no longer here :flush:
but to those who may come give credit to whoever wins. I know I will.
8)
Great post thats what makes this different ;D
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Re: < Let's get one thing straight here in regards to Kess vs. Joe.... >
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
OK,
Reading the *Official* thread and some comments being made about the aftermaths of the fight.
Let's get one thing straight here....
Whoevers the dumb! F*** to come on here and start S***! and ride of Kess is just that a fwocken idiot.
Heres what I'm getting to.....
If Joe beats Kess regardless of how he does it, Joe will have earned the respect he has been claiming.
Whoever thinks otherwise is just a wanker and is here to start S***.
Not only that but if Joe embaresses Kess whoa!! he will def. catapult in all-time rankings and def. as one of the best fighters of our times.
I mean these are 2 fighters in their primes, undefeated, established Champs with decent records some questionable opponents. Some people say Kess has fought the more prominent names some people say Joes the one with the better quality of opposition. Whatever the case maybe they are fighting eachother and all that goes out the window come that night.
But you can't discredit their undefeated records either cause they also make for interesting talk. This is like Lloyd vs. Donald, 'Finito' vs. Alvarez as far as records or like Gonzalez vs. Carbajal, Naz vs. MAB, ODLH vs. SSM as far as fighters at their best at the time of the fight.
Also the same should apply for Kess if he defeats Joe. No excuses if Joe is the man at SMW and is defeated by Kess then Kess becomes the man at SMW.
So please Kess fans be gracious in victory and defeat don't come here just talking S***! Some of you guys give him a bad name with some of the stuff you guys post. I know those memmbers are no longer here :flush:
but to those who may come give credit to whoever wins. I know I will.
8)
The fight is in Wales. If Kessler dominates Calzaghe but for some reason does not get the decision. I will give Calzaghe no credit what's so ever.
What if we turn that statement on it's head..would you give Kessler any credit?
Joe was willing to travel to Denmark which is fact and financially it makes no sense for either to fight their so he can't be blamed really can he?
Oh I think there's more of a chance of Calzaghe getting a shady deal than Kessler. But if so I will give Kessler no credit as well.
and if calzaghe wins clearly, then what?
you gunna give him respect, or just talk about how he 'ducked' johnson or his a hometown fighter?
Violent D does not shy away from giving a fighter his due if it's earned. Question is can you Preme (the one with the Calzaghe poster on his bed room wall) admit your fighter is overrated if he was to easily get blown out?
Sorry im not a kid with posters on his walls or gets sent to juvi like some postes on here ::**
you already asked me this, and i answerd you... Plain and simple yes... but i know it wont happen;)
Any fighter who is said to be world class and gets 'blow out' would be overrated...
I ain't been to juvi in 13 years.
whata guy;)
We can't all grow up in an environment were you play video game all day long and have your mommy read you a bed time story before going to bed.
thats what happens in juvi over here hehehehe
;D ;D
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Re: < Let's get one thing straight here in regards to Kess vs. Joe.... >
Ist round KO shares my fears! It is CERTAIN that Calzaghe will break his hand at some point, he has in all of his last 4 or 5 fights, even on Manfredo's sponge head
So my fear is a.) He can't hurt Kessler b.) he has to fight one handed and just gets picked apart
After 2 or 3 rounds there is no way JC will be throwing full blooded head shots!
These are fears, not a prediction!
My prediction is that JC will tear him a new one and win a UD
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Re: Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!
Some people are so funking thick it's unbelievable.
In the first place for people to think this fight could take place on neutral ground was naive but to then question why it's in Wales when they're talking about breaking the indoor fight record with over 60,000 punters.... ::**
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Re: < Let's get one thing straight here in regards to Kess vs. Joe.... >
re: broken hand
so does this mean if calzaghe loses
there is allowed to be no but but but he broke his hand so he wasnt really in it he onli hit one handed etc etc...................?????????? ;D
