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Originally Posted by means2184
I know that 2 years later Lewis made the   mighty warrior Holyfield look like he was in a different sport.
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Originally Posted by means2184
I know that 2 years later Lewis made the   mighty warrior Holyfield look like he was in a different sport.
I agree, but I also expected it after holyfield fought vaughn nean and looked like ass
Lewis lost to mercer, he lost the final round and that was the difference to me. You cant bullshit and pop the jab and win a 10-9 round it has to connect
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Originally Posted by pacdog
How about after that lucky punch Mcall landed the title got took over to the states and they kept it away from Lewis, Â and it was obvious that Lewis could of won it back the same night if the ref would of let him carry on. Â Â So the yanks ran off with the belt and didn't give Lewis a sniff, Â until he got his chance and they still wouldn't give him his belts with the worst decision in boxing history !!
there is a reason lewis is not really respected, holy was never respected because he fought in tysons shadow and later bacme respected. Yes lewis beat holyfield and yes he desreved to be champ, but tyson was done when he fought evander so this is not a measure of his greatness
Why didn't Tyson and Holyfield fight Lewis earlier then ???
Oh I see it was the usa, its more like don kin friend. Why do you think holy got a shot at tyson because he looked like crap and king wasnt concerend, as soon as tyson came out he was spoon fed the titles wthout fighting bowe, lewis or holy
Im lost when was holy suposed to fight lewis during his retirement after the moorer fight? ::) Why did lennox not give mercer a rematch???
Why did none of them fight Lewis earlier ..... Â Â I remember the Holyfield getting kept away from Lewis for ages while Moorer got his chance. Â Â LMAO moorer won aswell
face it your boys a 240 pound pussy who beat two aged fighters, a goofy pollock, and an even goofier russian
yeah more won a fight in which oly couldnt even lift his hands and it was close give me a break
the only uk fighter I thought was any good of recent memory was nigel benn other than that Im not impressed by any that comes from britain
Olympic gold medalist     3 time heavyweight champ ..  beat everyone he ever faced,  Beat Tyson Holyfield and Bowe,  was obvious he was the fighter that fighters feared. Â
Not 3 time champ just as holy was not 3 time champ, the belt holy one from tyson was not the linear belt technically
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Originally Posted by pacdog
PAC shut up ....... stop talking drivvle, you know he was 3 time champ and Lewis deserved it, Both fighters that beat him he beat them up, and have you ever noticed no one ever asked for a 3rd fight with him, cos they knew.. a Lewis with a point to prove was one scary man !!
actually holy asked for a third but lewis would have beat him. I understand lewis had beat him twice. I hate to say it but I used to spout that holy won it 3 times but a fella on the board corrected me, it was not the linear belt it was manufacured just like tyson becoming champ
Anyway you can keep all your excuses and ram them right up your shitbox ...... He beat the lot, Â and didn't duck anyone, Â never took the easy option and proved to be the Ali of our time, Â something that Tyson and Holyfield desperately wanted, Â and Lewis took that crown !!
mercer certainly asked for a second fight though... ;D
I agree nothing I havent said he beat the best around but the ali of our time are you kidding me with that b u ll s h it
You know what really pisses me off, Â people take little things like he struggled with Bruno thats why he aint the best ...... and shit like that, Â Â if you look at any fucking fighters career they have off nights.
Fucking Holyfield nearly got knocked out ..... by fucking smoking Bert Cooper in his prime ....LMAO
Tyson got totally out boxed and fucking KOED to fuck off Buster Douglas, Â Â But there is always someone to come up for a excuse for Tyson and Holyfield, Â like people say, Â Â Â ooooh he never trained, Â and shit like that. Â
Just seems to me that most jump on to anything negative that Lewis as done, Â and have these crazy excuses like they were there and its a fact, Â for Tyson and Holyfield !!
Thing is ...... I am 100% Tyson fan through and through, Â Â Just I am a boxing fan also and I have just realised that while Lewis was champ I hated him that much I didn't sit back and look what he was actually doing, Â because he was shit hot !!
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Originally Posted by pacdog
who is then ???
come on who is then ???
what does that have anyting to do with it ...ur the one who cant keep history straightQuote:
Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
what does the fact tyson & holyfeild got beat by lennox have anything to do w/ you being wrong about lennox having held a title for 5 yrs by 97 ...and the fact that Lewis trashcanned a title & gave it to Byrd just not to fight him ?? :dontknow:
still waiting .......... who is the Ali of our time please ???
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Originally Posted by means2184
He never fought Byrd because he wanted Tyson ..... and not a boxing fan on this planet would of rather of seen him fight Byrd than Tyson. PAC you are scraping the barrel, Bryd filed law suit that could of got the Tyson fight stopped, so he gave it up and fought Tyson.
Look, Lewis can not do right for wrong in your eyes
So the IBF went bye bye's .... and good riddons too expecting Lewis to fight bryd instead of Tyson ....LMAO
Oh yeah .... still waiting, Ali of our time, name a boxer ???
still waiting ???
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Originally Posted by pacdog
::) still waiting ???
Ali could takes hits like Rocky Balboa. He even had great endurance and stamina. Tyson hits hard, fairly good chin, but has horrible endurance and stamina. I would say Ali by ko in the 8th round with his famous one-two combination.
there is no ali of our time ...Lewis was definatly the ernie terrel w/ no ALi to lose too ...Lewis was boring & tall & was KO'd,/1-tko  SOMTHING WHICH NEVER HAPPENED TO ALI ...Lennox didnt snap the jab anything comparable to ALI he let his jab linger ...he never moved from side to side like ALI he would either move back or stiff arm.......Lennox was best in a weak division ....(KLITSCHKO mimicked ALI in his fight agaionst lennox) ...Lennox held his hands high while klitschko had his left low & jabbed & countered & out landed lewis)...DID YOU SEE THAT FIGHT MARSHMELLOW??????Quote:
Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Oh its ok for Tyson to get KOED to fuck but he was past his best .... Holyfield to get out boxed and made to look a fool but he was past his best ..... Then Lewis gets a 6th round stoppage win against Klistzscho weighing his heaviest ever for a fight at the end of his career and at the ripe old age of 39 and you try and disrespect him for it, if Tyson beat Klitszcho now at the age of 38 I bet you would be having orgasm's you little ferret.
No Ali of this time ... Thought you was going to say that.
And for the boring fights that Lewis has had that keep getting brought up, I would rather watch them than the pointless Tyson fights were he fights some bum and its over in the 1st round.
Check out, the Biggs, Golota, Morrison, Botha, Rahman, Biggs, Tucker, Mason, Ruddock, Grant, fights they are far from boring !!
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Originally Posted by means2184
Klitscho mimicked Ali against Lewis .. LOL He didn't do to well did he, see the state of his face and they had only done 6 rounds. LMAO
You know what I found funny ........ after the fight had finished and Klitszcho was getting interviewed and half of his lip was hanging off and flapping about. LMAO
Well you would know Lewis was supposed to be fighting Kirk Johnson and took the Klitszcho fight at short notice, he also weighed in at his heaviest ever for a fight 18 stone 3, about 260lbs.  --Rocky
Lewis thought he'd blow Klitschko away. ;) Â He didn't, and turned down millions upon millions because he knew... that he doesn't get better with age... like fine wine. ;D
When he was younger he could get KO'd by a lucky punch. Â When he's old, he's just old. Â Well, is there anytime when he was truely greater than Ali was? Â And your fighter should know by that age, to start training, and quit weighing as much. Â Excuses Excuses for a performance HE KNEW was bad. Â You knew he knew, because he was so defensive about it, remember the microphone wrestling contest with Larry Merchant?
So he was 39, just came off his career defining fight with Tyson, was getting told by everyone he should retire was supposed to be fighting Johnson fought Klitszcho and still won.  ---Rocky
Tyson's way older buddy, when it comes to his style. Â Wanna give Tyson excuses for losing to Lewis too?
  And you still find things to slag him off, Hey if Lewis looked Tired at the end of the 6th round,  Klitszcho looked like he had been hit by a bus !!
Lewis could come back now and still beat Klitszcho,  and I would love it if he did to shut muppets like yourself up !! ----Rocky
You would love to but he turned down the over 25 million $$$$$$$$.
heheheh crazy. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
ok and which of those compares to a Frazier fights or norton ALi trilogy ..or a ALi foreman? or CLay -Liston 1-2?...or the chuvalo fight-2??...or when ALI destroyed williams in 3 rounds w/ only 3 recorded hits taken by ALIQuote:
Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
LENNOX IS ABOUT A 1/2 Â A BOXING CAREER SHORT OF MEASURING UP TO ALI Style or carrerwise .... and as far as style i can name 3 boxers that Lewis resembles more than ALi so gove it up
and Tyson isnt being compared to ali !so YEA HES ALOUD TO GET KO'd
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Originally Posted by means2184
Hey its not my fault that Ali made hard work out of opponents, Frazier would be done with in 5 rounds in with Lewis, it would be a total miss match, Foreman would simply get outboxed, and it would be Foreman's weak chin that would go first from the pin point combo's !!
And yeah the Liston fights were superb ??? have you ever watched them ...... 6 rounds of pure tripe and a 1st round blag KO with a punch that practically never landed. great.
All I am saying that there would be no need for Lewis to have that many fights with the calibre of Frazier, Norton and Foreman, he wouldn't mix it up with them like Ali did, now if you take a look at Ali when he was 39 and take a look at Lewis, hmmmmm I think I would take the Lewis option of totally outboxing them and taking a KO if it comes !!
Tyson aint getting compared to Ali ....??? thats the name of the topic you big hairy spotty efferlump
i dont think Oliver McCall or Rahman could ever have beat Ali ....
ALSO i think Norton, Frazier, ListonForeman, could all have done what rahman & McCall did to Lewis ...YOU DONT THINK OLIVER OR HASIM R VERY INCREDIBLE GUYS DO YOU?
Lennox "pin point jab" was a slow jab & i know a prime Norton would OUTWORK/OUTPACE LEWIS ...
yea just f u c everybody cuz we all know mike tyson is the best boxer the sport has ever seen and could kick anybodys a$ $ in his prime. PERIOD