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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Pacdbest2
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canary
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Pacdbest2
Now you are annoying me!! Mijares???:11fb8:Are related to Amsterdam of ESB???
Cotto's destroyed!!! How you going to sell him???
Pavlik??? Maybe... I like him but the white bandwagon was so Crazy about MMA. By the time Pavlik turn the white people to Boxing, Pac will probably retired already & already Made his Millions.
• amsterdam?!? dammit. dont compare me to that ignorant f-tard..
• cotto? destroyed? by whom? against margo whom he fought with a wrong gameplan? he lost the fight, yes. but destroyed? no.
So WTF you mentioned Mijares?? What Mijares fight you'll Pay in PPV???
Until Cotto redeem himself against Margarito, I called him destroyed. I doubt if he can beat Margarito.
Cotto is far from destroyed Pare. Miguel is a multifaceted fighter with power, speed and a good boxing brain just so happens he was outlasted by a naturally BIGGER fighter. No worries though because in the rematch Cotto without getting caught can win using his boxing skills for sure.
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Re: Aside from MONEY, any more reason(s) why Hoya is keen on fighting PAC?
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SaddoBoxer
Reading from the replies, there's really no solid reason(s) why Hoya is picking Pacquiao (aside from money)...
This lead me to believe that there's some personal issues between Hoya and Pacquiao that needs to be settled on top of the ring...
Look at Oscar and Manny two of the nicest guys in boxing....are they really angry with each other or do they just want to line their pockets???
Oscar is just out for money right now when he could really go down (as he should) as a GREAT fighter by even fighting Antonio Margarito much less beating him which Oscar COULD do as he does have the wheels to box for 12 rounds AND seeing how Oscar brings so much bank he could have the fight at 154 or a 150 catch weight where he's more comfortable.
There is really no reason for a De la Hoya-Margarito fight not to happen it adds more to his legacy!!!
Pacquiao should fight Casamayor or Valero or Hatton he COULD win all those fights but they aren't going to be easy for him. He's a beast but he's not superhuman
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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canary
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Pacdbest2
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canary
• amsterdam?!? dammit. dont compare me to that ignorant f-tard..
• cotto? destroyed? by whom? against margo whom he fought with a wrong gameplan? he lost the fight, yes. but destroyed? no.
So WTF you mentioned Mijares?? What Mijares fight you'll Pay in PPV???
Until Cotto redeem himself against Margarito, I called him destroyed. I doubt if he can beat Margarito.
heheh. relaks dude, biro lang yung kay mijares. dati kong pangalan yung ibon sa larawan ko.
And no, cotto is not destroyed yet
Banned ca na rin sa ESB???
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
Next fan boy that mentions "That other second rate Boxing Site" and its inner disfunctional family dealings should get a phat dose of red reps....:fight:
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Pacdbest2
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canary
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Pacdbest2
So WTF you mentioned Mijares?? What Mijares fight you'll Pay in PPV???
Until Cotto redeem himself against Margarito, I called him destroyed. I doubt if he can beat Margarito.
heheh. relaks dude, biro lang yung kay mijares. dati kong pangalan yung ibon sa larawan ko.
And no, cotto is not destroyed yet
Banned ca na rin sa ESB???
ban man o hindi, wala na akong balak bumalik dun. ewan ko lang sa mga susunod na taon. ;D pero immediate plans, wala.
ngapala, ako ang kusang umalis sa esb, not the other way around.
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
.....in English please....bastards
j/k
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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canary
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Pacdbest2
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canary
heheh. relaks dude, biro lang yung kay mijares. dati kong pangalan yung ibon sa larawan ko.
And no, cotto is not destroyed yet
Banned ca na rin sa ESB???
ban man o hindi, wala na akong balak bumalik dun. ewan ko lang sa mga susunod na taon. ;D pero immediate plans, wala.
ngapala, ako ang kusang umalis sa esb, not the other way around.
I have to disagree with the 1st sentance, second is good but 1st way off the mark
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Re: Aside from MONEY, any more reason(s) why Hoya is keen on fighting PAC?
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Lyle
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SaddoBoxer
Reading from the replies, there's really no solid reason(s) why Hoya is picking Pacquiao (aside from money)...
This lead me to believe that there's some personal issues between Hoya and Pacquiao that needs to be settled on top of the ring...
Look at Oscar and Manny two of the nicest guys in boxing....are they really angry with each other or do they just want to line their pockets???
Oscar is just out for money right now when he could really go down (as he should) as a GREAT fighter by even fighting Antonio Margarito much less beating him which Oscar COULD do as he does have the wheels to box for 12 rounds AND seeing how Oscar brings so much bank he could have the fight at 154 or a 150 catch weight where he's more comfortable.
There is really no reason for a De la Hoya-Margarito fight not to happen it adds more to his legacy!!!
Pacquiao should fight Casamayor or Valero or Hatton he COULD win all those fights but they aren't going to be easy for him. He's a beast but he's not superhuman
David Diaz is a very nice person too & I met him in Berkeley. And yet pac Destroys him.
This fight needs to happen coz Boxing needs it. If DLH retires without fighting Pac, the PPV King torch will not be passed. We thought PBF will carry it but he stinks the joint & run away with our money & refused to fight the toughest test.
If DLH retires without fighting Pac, The mainstream Audience will still have no interest in watching all these Great Matchup waiting for Pac. Pac vs JMM, J Diaz, Casa & Campbell will be stuck with just for the Diehard Boxing fans only. The Mainsteam Audience will surely gravitate more to MMA instead after DLH.
If they do the DLH- Margarito, Do you think Margarito can carry the PPV & Boxing's torch after DLH??? Margo surely will beat DLH but he is not that exciting or Charismatic. It will not help boxing whatsoever. I don't think Margo can even be bigger than MAB & EM even if he beat DLH. Critic will say the DLH's shot & Old. He will still be avoided.
Now imagine Pac winning against DLH??? HIs excitement will be multiplied more than doubled. More people will be hyped for this Little & exciting guy. IT will help boxing in a Big way.
Look at the guys who carry boxing from Ali, SRL, TYson, & DLH??? They all have something in common. They have speed, Power, Charisma, they are all likeable & has Big Cajones. Cotto & Margarito got no speed & Charisma. PBF in not a Likable & has a small Cajones. There's no other Choice but Pac. Don't look anywhere else.
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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plopeater
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canary
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Pacdbest2
Banned ca na rin sa ESB???
ban man o hindi, wala na akong balak bumalik dun. ewan ko lang sa mga susunod na taon. ;D pero immediate plans, wala.
ngapala, ako ang kusang umalis sa esb, not the other way around.
I have to disagree with the 1st sentance, second is good but 1st way off the mark
huh? you can understand the language?
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Lyle
.....in English please....bastards
j/k
:-X
hehe. sorry. were talking about banishment from other sites.
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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canary
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Pacdbest2
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canary
heheh. relaks dude, biro lang yung kay mijares. dati kong pangalan yung ibon sa larawan ko.
And no, cotto is not destroyed yet
Banned ca na rin sa ESB???
ban man o hindi, wala na akong balak bumalik dun. ewan ko lang sa mga susunod na taon. ;D pero immediate plans, wala.
ngapala, ako ang kusang umalis sa esb, not the other way around.
I think it's time for all the Pac fans to Boycott ESB the way they treat most of us. It's becoming boring now there without us there. They can Keep Cj & theunderdog(the Makapili). If you can keep in touch with them, tell them to move every Pac fans here. Just leave that 2 over there.
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Re: Aside from MONEY, any more reason(s) why Hoya is keen on fighting PAC?
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Pacdbest2
David Diaz is a very nice person too & I met him in Berkeley. And yet pac Destroys him.
This fight needs to happen coz Boxing needs it. If DLH retires without fighting Pac, the PPV King torch will not be passed. We thought PBF will carry it but he stinks the joint & run away with our money & refused to fight the toughest test.
If DLH retires without fighting Pac, The mainstream Audience will still have no interest in watching all these Great Matchup waiting for Pac. Pac vs JMM, J Diaz, Casa & Campbell will be stuck with just for the Diehard Boxing fans only. The Mainsteam Audience will surely gravitate more to MMA instead after DLH.
If they do the DLH- Margarito, Do you think Margarito can carry the PPV & Boxing's torch after DLH??? Margo surely will beat DLH but he is not that exciting or Charismatic. It will not help boxing whatsoever. I don't think Margo can even be bigger than MAB & EM even if he beat DLH. Critic will say the DLH's shot & Old. He will still be avoided.
Now imagine Pac winning against DLH??? HIs excitement will be multiplied more than doubled. More people will be hyped for this Little & exciting guy. IT will help boxing in a Big way.
Look at the guys who carry boxing from Ali, SRL, TYson, & DLH??? They all have something in common. They have speed, Power, Charisma, they are all likeable & has Big Cajones. Cotto & Margarito got no speed & Charisma. PBF in not a Likable & has a small Cajones. There's no other Choice but Pac. Don't look anywhere else.
No one aside from the Pacquiao fans are clammoring for this fight, it's a farce...no offense to the talent involved but Manny started his career at 106 pounds and Oscar started his career fighting where Manny is fighting right now.
No one can take Oscar's place if he never leaves the sport....I think Kelly Pavlik has the style and ability to carry the sport as do many other young fighters
Would anyone be praising Roy Jones Jr.-De la Hoya at 175??? Or Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Kelly Pavlik at 168 ???? Or Joe Calzaghe - Wladimir Klitschko???? Those could have HUGE PPV numbers but only huge PPV numbers IN THEORY because they are all complete mismatches due to the size differences between the fighters and De la Hoya vs Manny Pacquiao is no different....sure they have huge fan bases and dedicated fans but it won't make it a competitive fight or even an interesting fight because either Manny will be blown up or Oscar will be weight drained or both and there's no way I see Manny having a chance at winning this and if he did it would tarnish everything else Oscar had achieved before hand because no legit 154 pounder needs to lose to a guy still fighting at lightweight.
Oscar De la Hoya vs Antonio Margarito is a RELEVANT FIGHT AT 147 and even at 154....whereas Manny Pacquiao can't live at 147 he might beat De la Hoya but put him in vs anyone else and he's primed for a HUGE beat down....no offense to Manny but he can only gain so much weight and be effective
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Pacdbest2
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canary
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Pacdbest2
Banned ca na rin sa ESB???
ban man o hindi, wala na akong balak bumalik dun. ewan ko lang sa mga susunod na taon. ;D pero immediate plans, wala.
ngapala, ako ang kusang umalis sa esb, not the other way around.
I think it's time for all the Pac fans to Boycott ESB the way they treat most of us. It's becoming boring now there without us there. They can Keep Cj & theunderdog(the Makapili). If you can keep in touch with them, tell them to move every Pac fans here. Just leave that 2 over there.
hehe, medyo badtrip ka parin dun sa kanila. oks naman sila, kailangan lang siguro ng konting communication pa.
anyways, my line to some of them tambayan pipols is still open. sinabi ko na yan. ewan ko lang kung iboboykot nila ang esb. adik na e. si bulakenyo nga hindi naniniwalang may crackdown (samantalang may malinaw na pattern. iniisa-isa tayo) basta ako, boykot muna.
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Re: Aside from MONEY, any more reason(s) why Hoya is keen on fighting PAC?
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Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
Lyle
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
Reading from the replies, there's really no solid reason(s) why Hoya is picking Pacquiao (aside from money)...
This lead me to believe that there's some personal issues between Hoya and Pacquiao that needs to be settled on top of the ring...
Look at Oscar and Manny two of the nicest guys in boxing....are they really angry with each other or do they just want to line their pockets???
Oscar is just out for money right now when he could really go down (as he should) as a GREAT fighter by even fighting Antonio Margarito much less beating him which Oscar COULD do as he does have the wheels to box for 12 rounds AND seeing how Oscar brings so much bank he could have the fight at 154 or a 150 catch weight where he's more comfortable.
There is really no reason for a De la Hoya-Margarito fight not to happen it adds more to his legacy!!!
Pacquiao should fight Casamayor or Valero or Hatton he COULD win all those fights but they aren't going to be easy for him. He's a beast but he's not superhuman
David Diaz is a very nice person too & I met him in Berkeley. And yet pac Destroys him.
This fight needs to happen coz Boxing needs it. If DLH retires without fighting Pac, the PPV King torch will not be passed. We thought PBF will carry it but he stinks the joint & run away with our money & refused to fight the toughest test.
If DLH retires without fighting Pac, The mainstream Audience will still have no interest in watching all these Great Matchup waiting for Pac. Pac vs JMM, J Diaz, Casa & Campbell will be stuck with just for the Diehard Boxing fans only. The Mainsteam Audience will surely gravitate more to MMA instead after DLH.
If they do the DLH- Margarito, Do you think Margarito can carry the PPV & Boxing's torch after DLH??? Margo surely will beat DLH but he is not that exciting or Charismatic. It will not help boxing whatsoever. I don't think Margo can even be bigger than MAB & EM even if he beat DLH. Critic will say the DLH's shot & Old. He will still be avoided.
Now imagine Pac winning against DLH??? HIs excitement will be multiplied more than doubled. More people will be hyped for this Little & exciting guy. IT will help boxing in a Big way.
Look at the guys who carry boxing from Ali, SRL, TYson, & DLH??? They all have something in common. They have speed, Power, Charisma, they are all likeable & has Big Cajones. Cotto & Margarito got no speed & Charisma. PBF in not a Likable & has a small Cajones. There's no other Choice but Pac. Don't look anywhere else.
Pre, the American public could care less if our Hero fought Oscar. It will definitely generate gazillions in PPV etc... This crazy fight will not make PAC more likeable to them. Do you want the whole world to witness a Filipino Legend get battered from ringpost to ringpost?
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Pacdbest2
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canary
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Pacdbest2
Banned ca na rin sa ESB???
ban man o hindi, wala na akong balak bumalik dun. ewan ko lang sa mga susunod na taon. ;D pero immediate plans, wala.
ngapala, ako ang kusang umalis sa esb, not the other way around.
I think it's time for all the Pac fans to Boycott ESB the way they treat most of us. It's becoming boring now there without us there. They can Keep Cj & theunderdog(the Makapili). If you can keep in touch with them, tell them to move every Pac fans here. Just leave that 2 over there.
Frankly ,I do not think many here really give a flying toss about your personality & marital squabbles over at that other dump site.Pm one another,use a cell,E-mail........how about a carrier Pigeon??Your pissing in this front yard,take it elsewhere!Have a great day .Btw,I neg repped you for Dropping that mess here constantly.
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, my biggest beef with this fight is that it's only purpose is to give DLH another notch in his belt against a big-name fighter. It's not a competitive matchup... the difference in size is too great. Pac fans are fooling themselves if they see it differently. Hell... Pac would probably box circles around Wladimir Klitschko, too. But one swat from Wlad would send Pac flying over the ropes.
I'm more a Pac fan than a De La Hoya fan, as many around here know. But I am totally against this farce. This just goes to show that you can hype up just about anything in boxing.
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Re: Aside from MONEY, any more reason(s) why Hoya is keen on fighting PAC?
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Pavlik
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
Lyle
Look at Oscar and Manny two of the nicest guys in boxing....are they really angry with each other or do they just want to line their pockets???
Oscar is just out for money right now when he could really go down (as he should) as a GREAT fighter by even fighting Antonio Margarito much less beating him which Oscar COULD do as he does have the wheels to box for 12 rounds AND seeing how Oscar brings so much bank he could have the fight at 154 or a 150 catch weight where he's more comfortable.
There is really no reason for a De la Hoya-Margarito fight not to happen it adds more to his legacy!!!
Pacquiao should fight Casamayor or Valero or Hatton he COULD win all those fights but they aren't going to be easy for him. He's a beast but he's not superhuman
David Diaz is a very nice person too & I met him in Berkeley. And yet pac Destroys him.
This fight needs to happen coz Boxing needs it. If DLH retires without fighting Pac, the PPV King torch will not be passed. We thought PBF will carry it but he stinks the joint & run away with our money & refused to fight the toughest test.
If DLH retires without fighting Pac, The mainstream Audience will still have no interest in watching all these Great Matchup waiting for Pac. Pac vs JMM, J Diaz, Casa & Campbell will be stuck with just for the Diehard Boxing fans only. The Mainsteam Audience will surely gravitate more to MMA instead after DLH.
If they do the DLH- Margarito, Do you think Margarito can carry the PPV & Boxing's torch after DLH??? Margo surely will beat DLH but he is not that exciting or Charismatic. It will not help boxing whatsoever. I don't think Margo can even be bigger than MAB & EM even if he beat DLH. Critic will say the DLH's shot & Old. He will still be avoided.
Now imagine Pac winning against DLH??? HIs excitement will be multiplied more than doubled. More people will be hyped for this Little & exciting guy. IT will help boxing in a Big way.
Look at the guys who carry boxing from Ali, SRL, TYson, & DLH??? They all have something in common. They have speed, Power, Charisma, they are all likeable & has Big Cajones. Cotto & Margarito got no speed & Charisma. PBF in not a Likable & has a small Cajones. There's no other Choice but Pac. Don't look anywhere else.
Pre, the American public could care less if our Hero fought Oscar. It will definitely generate gazillions in PPV etc...
This crazy fight will not make PAC more likeable to them. Do you want the whole world to witness a Filipino Legend get battered from ringpost to ringpost?
When Duran beat SRL he becomes a household name in the US. All Pac has to do is beat the Golden goose.
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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TitoFan
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, my biggest beef with this fight is that it's only purpose is to give DLH another notch in his belt against a big-name fighter. It's not a competitive matchup... the difference in size is too great. Pac fans are fooling themselves if they see it differently. Hell... Pac would probably box circles around Wladimir Klitschko, too. But one swat from Wlad would send Pac flying over the ropes.
I'm more a Pac fan than a De La Hoya fan, as many around here know. But I am totally against this farce. This just goes to show that you can hype up just about anything in boxing.
What about Pac's Purpose?? He wants to beat the Legends. He wnats to prove his Greatness. Pac could become one of the top Atg BY BEATING DLH. Hatton & PBF. Pac's want to prove something here. To Prove that you & a lot of people against this fight were all WRONG!!!
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Re: Aside from MONEY, any more reason(s) why Hoya is keen on fighting PAC?
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
Pavlik
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Pacdbest2
David Diaz is a very nice person too & I met him in Berkeley. And yet pac Destroys him.
This fight needs to happen coz Boxing needs it. If DLH retires without fighting Pac, the PPV King torch will not be passed. We thought PBF will carry it but he stinks the joint & run away with our money & refused to fight the toughest test.
If DLH retires without fighting Pac, The mainstream Audience will still have no interest in watching all these Great Matchup waiting for Pac. Pac vs JMM, J Diaz, Casa & Campbell will be stuck with just for the Diehard Boxing fans only. The Mainsteam Audience will surely gravitate more to MMA instead after DLH.
If they do the DLH- Margarito, Do you think Margarito can carry the PPV & Boxing's torch after DLH??? Margo surely will beat DLH but he is not that exciting or Charismatic. It will not help boxing whatsoever. I don't think Margo can even be bigger than MAB & EM even if he beat DLH. Critic will say the DLH's shot & Old. He will still be avoided.
Now imagine Pac winning against DLH??? HIs excitement will be multiplied more than doubled. More people will be hyped for this Little & exciting guy. IT will help boxing in a Big way.
Look at the guys who carry boxing from Ali, SRL, TYson, & DLH??? They all have something in common. They have speed, Power, Charisma, they are all likeable & has Big Cajones. Cotto & Margarito got no speed & Charisma. PBF in not a Likable & has a small Cajones. There's no other Choice but Pac. Don't look anywhere else.
Pre, the American public could care less if our Hero fought Oscar. It will definitely generate gazillions in PPV etc...
This crazy fight will not make PAC more likeable to them. Do you want the whole world to witness a Filipino Legend get battered from ringpost to ringpost?
When Duran beat SRL he becomes a household name in the US. All Pac has to do is beat the Golden goose.
Well PAC could start off with something realistic like cleaning out the 135 lb division or for immortality beat Hatton for his 5th title. If this fight with Oscar happens we will regret this for the rest of our PAC cheering life.
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Re: Aside from MONEY, any more reason(s) why Hoya is keen on fighting PAC?
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Pavlik
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
Pavlik
Pre, the American public could care less if our Hero fought Oscar. It will definitely generate gazillions in PPV etc... This crazy fight will not make PAC more likeable to them. Do you want the whole world to witness a Filipino Legend get battered from ringpost to ringpost?
When Duran beat SRL he becomes a household name in the US. All Pac has to do is beat the Golden goose.
Well PAC could start off with something
realistic like cleaning out the 135 lb division or for immortality beat Hatton for his 5th title.
The fight is a more than reality now. Put your shoes in Pac's shoes, Who will you fight???
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Re: Aside from MONEY, any more reason(s) why Hoya is keen on fighting PAC?
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Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
Pavlik
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
When Duran beat SRL he becomes a household name in the US. All Pac has to do is beat the Golden goose.
Well PAC could start off with something
realistic like cleaning out the 135 lb division or for immortality beat Hatton for his 5th title.
The fight is a more than reality now. Put your shoes in Pac's shoes, Who will you fight???
Somebody in my weight division, at least close to my size.
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
canary
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Pacdbest2
Banned ca na rin sa ESB???
ban man o hindi, wala na akong balak bumalik dun. ewan ko lang sa mga susunod na taon. ;D pero immediate plans, wala.
ngapala, ako ang kusang umalis sa esb, not the other way around.
I think it's time for all the Pac fans to Boycott ESB the way they treat most of us. It's becoming boring now there without us there. They can Keep Cj & theunderdog(the Makapili).
If you can keep in touch with them, tell them to move every Pac fans here. Just leave that 2 over there.
What a great idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool: Instead of one poster like you we can have gajillions of them. How splendid, I can't wait:p
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Pacdbest2
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TitoFan
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, my biggest beef with this fight is that it's only purpose is to give DLH another notch in his belt against a big-name fighter. It's not a competitive matchup... the difference in size is too great. Pac fans are fooling themselves if they see it differently. Hell... Pac would probably box circles around Wladimir Klitschko, too. But one swat from Wlad would send Pac flying over the ropes.
I'm more a Pac fan than a De La Hoya fan, as many around here know. But I am totally against this farce. This just goes to show that you can hype up just about anything in boxing.
What about Pac's Purpose?? He wants to beat the Legends. He wnats to prove his Greatness. Pac could become one of the top Atg BY BEATING DLH. Hatton & PBF. Pac's want to prove something here. To Prove that you & a lot of people against this fight were all WRONG!!!
Sounds like your elevator may not go all way to the top, so I'll try to write slowly.
Pac may already be an alltime great, and even if he isn't, he can achieve that goal within striking distance of his own weight division. Boxers have moved up one or more weight classes before, but usually these are fighters that are killing themselves making weight at the lower classes, and allow themselves to fill out to move up. This is not Pacquiao's case, as his physique is made for the division he currently inhabits.
Bottom line is, Pac doesn't need to fight Oscar or anybody else of Oscar's size. He needs to continue to clean up in the immediate neighborhood of his weight division, and his place as an ATG will be secured.
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, my biggest beef with this fight is that it's only purpose is to give DLH another notch in his belt against a big-name fighter. It's not a competitive matchup... the difference in size is too great. Pac fans are fooling themselves if they see it differently. Hell... Pac would probably box circles around Wladimir Klitschko, too. But one swat from Wlad would send Pac flying over the ropes.
I'm more a Pac fan than a De La Hoya fan, as many around here know. But I am totally against this farce. This just goes to show that you can hype up just about anything in boxing.
What about Pac's Purpose?? He wants to beat the Legends. He wnats to prove his Greatness. Pac could become one of the top Atg BY BEATING DLH. Hatton & PBF. Pac's want to prove something here. To Prove that you & a lot of people against this fight were all WRONG!!!
Sounds like your elevator may not go all way to the top, so I'll try to write slowly.
Pac may already be an alltime great, and even if he isn't, he can achieve that goal within striking distance of his own weight division. Boxers have moved up one or more weight classes before, but usually these are fighters that are killing themselves making weight at the lower classes, and allow themselves to fill out to move up. This is not Pacquiao's case, as his physique is made for the division he currently inhabits.
Bottom line is, Pac doesn't need to fight Oscar or anybody else of Oscar's size. He needs to continue to clean up in the immediate neighborhood of his weight division, and his place as an ATG will be secured.
I appreciate you patience, but it's futile to convince some of us fans;D
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Re: Aside from MONEY, any more reason(s) why Hoya is keen on fighting PAC?
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Pavlik
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Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
Pavlik
Well PAC could start off with something realistic like cleaning out the 135 lb division or for immortality beat Hatton for his 5th title.
The fight is a more than reality now. Put your shoes in Pac's shoes, Who will you fight???
Somebody in my weight division, at least close to my size.
So you don't care about the money, The fame & the Glory of beating an legend like DLH ??? So you will just settle beating guys you think you can easily beat?? Where's the Challenge there???
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
It's not like Pac is hurting for big fights in his division...Casamayor, Campbell, Anthony Peterson, Joan Guzman, Amir Kahn, Edwin Valero, Humberto Soto, Hatton, Holt, Malinaggi, Witter, and so on. There is no reason for Pacquiao to jump to 147.
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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TitoFan
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, my biggest beef with this fight is that it's only purpose is to give DLH another notch in his belt against a big-name fighter. It's not a competitive matchup... the difference in size is too great. Pac fans are fooling themselves if they see it differently. Hell... Pac would probably box circles around Wladimir Klitschko, too. But one swat from Wlad would send Pac flying over the ropes.
I'm more a Pac fan than a De La Hoya fan, as many around here know. But I am totally against this farce. This just goes to show that you can hype up just about anything in boxing.
What about Pac's Purpose?? He wants to beat the Legends. He wnats to prove his Greatness. Pac could become one of the top Atg BY BEATING DLH. Hatton & PBF. Pac's want to prove something here. To Prove that you & a lot of people against this fight were all WRONG!!!
Sounds like your elevator may not go all way to the top, so I'll try to write slowly.
Pac may already be an alltime great, and even if he isn't, he can achieve that goal within striking distance of his own weight division. Boxers have moved up one or more weight classes before, but usually these are fighters that are killing themselves making weight at the lower classes, and allow themselves to fill out to move up. This is not Pacquiao's case, as his physique is made for the division he currently inhabits.
Bottom line is, Pac doesn't need to fight Oscar or anybody else of Oscar's size. He needs to continue to clean up in the immediate neighborhood of his weight division, and his place as an ATG will be secured.
Freddie Roach Can explain it better to you. Just read what he said:
Exclusive Interview: Freddie Roach
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Re: Aside from MONEY, any more reason(s) why Hoya is keen on fighting PAC?
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Pavlik
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Pacdbest2
The fight is a more than reality now. Put your shoes in Pac's shoes, Who will you fight???
Somebody in my weight division, at least close to my size.
So you don't care about the money, The fame & the Glory of beating an legend like DLH ??? So you will just settle beating guys you think you can easily beat?? Where's the Challenge there???
Easily beat:confused: Do you remember the left right combo JMM gave PAC in the 2nd round in their rematch, imagine if that was ODLH landing his shots on PAC.
Joan Guzman, has ring generalship/defense that could baffle PAC, easily beat:confused:
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Lyle
It's not like Pac is hurting for big fights in his division...Casamayor, Campbell, Anthony Peterson, Joan Guzman, Amir Kahn, Edwin Valero, Humberto Soto, Hatton, Holt, Malinaggi, Witter, and so on. There is no reason for Pacquiao to jump to 147.
Combine all 5 fight there and that is only an equivalent of one Pac fight with DLH in Money & in Glory.
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Re: Aside from MONEY, any more reason(s) why Hoya is keen on fighting PAC?
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Pavlik
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Pavlik
Somebody in my weight division, at least close to my size.
So you don't care about the money, The fame & the Glory of beating an legend like DLH ??? So you will just settle beating guys you think you can easily beat?? Where's the Challenge there???
Easily beat:confused: Do you remember the left right combo JMM gave PAC in the 2nd round in their rematch, imagine if that was ODLH landing his shots on PAC.
Joan Guzman, has ring generalship/defense that could baffle PAC, easily beat:confused:
DLH can't punch like JMM. Did you see the DLH Forbes fight??? Listen to Roach buddy:Exclusive Interview: Freddie Roach
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Pacdbest2
Combine all 5 fight there and that is only an equivalent of one Pac fight with DLH in Money & in Glory.
Well does Pac want to line his pockets or does he want to have a chance to win a fight????
Manny Pacquiao is 5'6 maybe 5'7 and Oscar is 5'10 maybe 5'11.....and Welterweight is 10 pounds over what Manny usually weighs AND Oscar will weigh nearly 20 pounds over the limit come fight night....if you're a TRUE Manny Pacquiao fan you don't want to watch what should happen to Manny (unless the fight is fixed of course).
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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TitoFan
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Pacdbest2
What about Pac's Purpose?? He wants to beat the Legends. He wnats to prove his Greatness. Pac could become one of the top Atg BY BEATING DLH. Hatton & PBF. Pac's want to prove something here. To Prove that you & a lot of people against this fight were all WRONG!!!
Sounds like your elevator may not go all way to the top, so I'll try to write slowly.
Pac may already be an alltime great, and even if he isn't, he can achieve that goal within striking distance of his own weight division. Boxers have moved up one or more weight classes before, but usually these are fighters that are killing themselves making weight at the lower classes, and allow themselves to fill out to move up. This is not Pacquiao's case, as his physique is made for the division he currently inhabits.
Bottom line is, Pac doesn't need to fight Oscar or anybody else of Oscar's size. He needs to continue to clean up in the immediate neighborhood of his weight division, and his place as an ATG will be secured.
Freddie Roach Can explain it better to you. Just read what he said:
Exclusive Interview: Freddie Roach
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Read it.... still not convinced. Besides, any credibility I was willing to grant Roach went out the window when he said Margarito said he didn't want to fight another Mexican. I heard Margarito call out De La Hoya myself in a TV interview. So as far as I'm concerned, everything else Roach said is a bunch of sh*t. Roach wants what's best for Roach, not Manny.
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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TitoFan
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Pacdbest2
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TitoFan
Sounds like your elevator may not go all way to the top, so I'll try to write slowly.
Pac may already be an alltime great, and even if he isn't, he can achieve that goal within striking distance of his own weight division. Boxers have moved up one or more weight classes before, but usually these are fighters that are killing themselves making weight at the lower classes, and allow themselves to fill out to move up. This is not Pacquiao's case, as his physique is made for the division he currently inhabits.
Bottom line is, Pac doesn't need to fight Oscar or anybody else of Oscar's size. He needs to continue to clean up in the immediate neighborhood of his weight division, and his place as an ATG will be secured.
Freddie Roach Can explain it better to you. Just read what he said:
Exclusive Interview: Freddie Roach
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Read it.... still not convinced. Besides, any credibility I was willing to grant Roach went out the window when he said Margarito said he didn't want to fight another Mexican. I heard Margarito call out De La Hoya myself in a TV interview. So as far as I'm concerned, everything else Roach said is a bunch of sh*t. Roach wants what's best for Roach, not Manny.
I used to be a fan of Coach Freddie, but after this Oscar-PAC circus special I'm really disappointed:(
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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TitoFan
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Pacdbest2
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TitoFan
Sounds like your elevator may not go all way to the top, so I'll try to write slowly.
Pac may already be an alltime great, and even if he isn't, he can achieve that goal within striking distance of his own weight division. Boxers have moved up one or more weight classes before, but usually these are fighters that are killing themselves making weight at the lower classes, and allow themselves to fill out to move up. This is not Pacquiao's case, as his physique is made for the division he currently inhabits.
Bottom line is, Pac doesn't need to fight Oscar or anybody else of Oscar's size. He needs to continue to clean up in the immediate neighborhood of his weight division, and his place as an ATG will be secured.
Freddie Roach Can explain it better to you. Just read what he said:
Exclusive Interview: Freddie Roach
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Read it.... still not convinced. Besides, any credibility I was willing to grant Roach went out the window when he said Margarito said he didn't want to fight another Mexican. I heard Margarito call out De La Hoya myself in a TV interview. So as far as I'm concerned, everything else Roach said is a bunch of sh*t. Roach wants what's best for Roach, not Manny.
I don't have to convinced you. Just wait after the fight when Pac finally beat DLH.
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Pacdbest2
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TitoFan
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Pacdbest2
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Read it.... still not convinced. Besides, any credibility I was willing to grant Roach went out the window when he said Margarito said he didn't want to fight another Mexican. I heard Margarito call out De La Hoya myself in a TV interview. So as far as I'm concerned, everything else Roach said is a bunch of sh*t. Roach wants what's best for Roach, not Manny.
I don't have to convinced you. Just wait after the fight when Pac finally beat DLH.
Dude... What is it with you dellusional Pac fans... Look... Pac is clearly a great fighter. I am not a huge fan but that's just me. I can unbiasly say that he has surpassed good a long time ago and is really getting his due...
This "He'll beat DLH bussiness is just fucking retarded. I'm not even a DLH fan. DLH will outbox him... Even this version of Oscar. Manny is biting off more then he can chew if he goes to this weight to fight ODLH...
Stop with the stupidity... His handlers keep moving him up they're gonna get him fuckin killed. Good thing that manny has done well thus far. this weight is to much for him.
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Pacdbest2
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TitoFan
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Read it.... still not convinced. Besides, any credibility I was willing to grant Roach went out the window when he said Margarito said he didn't want to fight another Mexican. I heard Margarito call out De La Hoya myself in a TV interview. So as far as I'm concerned, everything else Roach said is a bunch of sh*t. Roach wants what's best for Roach, not Manny.
I don't have to convinced you. Just wait after the fight when Pac finally beat DLH.
Dude... What is it with you dellusional Pac fans... Look... Pac is clearly a great fighter. I am not a huge fan but that's just me. I can unbiasly say that he has surpassed good a long time ago and is really getting his due...
This "He'll beat DLH bussiness is just fucking retarded. I'm not even a DLH fan. DLH will outbox him... Even this version of Oscar. Manny is biting off more then he can chew if he goes to this weight to fight ODLH...
Stop with the stupidity... His handlers keep moving him up they're gonna get him fuckin killed. Good thing that manny has done well thus far. this weight is to much for him.
Don't you want to see what really will happen if you match up these two legends??? A Fantasy becomes a reality in your lifetime, Don't you wanna see History in the making??? We're lucky my friends!! Don't be a kill joy!!!
Read this article & be enlighten:
I'm Drinking the Kool-Aid
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Pacdbest2
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Pacdbest2
I don't have to convinced you. Just wait after the fight when Pac finally beat DLH.
Dude... What is it with you dellusional Pac fans... Look... Pac is clearly a great fighter. I am not a huge fan but that's just me. I can unbiasly say that he has surpassed good a long time ago and is really getting his due...
This "He'll beat DLH bussiness is just fucking retarded. I'm not even a DLH fan. DLH will outbox him... Even this version of Oscar. Manny is biting off more then he can chew if he goes to this weight to fight ODLH...
Stop with the stupidity... His handlers keep moving him up they're gonna get him fuckin killed. Good thing that manny has done well thus far. this weight is to much for him.
Don't you want to see what really will happen if you match up these two legends??? A Fantasy becomes a reality in your lifetime, Don't you wanna see History in the making??? We're lucky my friends!! Don't be a kill joy!!!
Read this article & be enlighten:
I'm Drinking the Kool-Aid
I guess he'll win this and then the march starts towards Mora for the 154 strap... Pavlik should be next on the list for the middlewight crown... I guess then He can go after Mikkel Kessler for a 168 title... Why not go after Joe C after that.... Assuming he's not retired... That'd be an awesome fight. I guess then there is nothing else to do then go after the Cruisers... USS Cunningham would be a good target... Pac could clearly woop his ass... The we can set up the epic battle between Wlad and Manny..
Yeah...
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Pacdbest2
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
Dude... What is it with you dellusional Pac fans... Look... Pac is clearly a great fighter. I am not a huge fan but that's just me. I can unbiasly say that he has surpassed good a long time ago and is really getting his due...
This "He'll beat DLH bussiness is just fucking retarded. I'm not even a DLH fan. DLH will outbox him... Even this version of Oscar. Manny is biting off more then he can chew if he goes to this weight to fight ODLH...
Stop with the stupidity... His handlers keep moving him up they're gonna get him fuckin killed. Good thing that manny has done well thus far. this weight is to much for him.
Don't you want to see what really will happen if you match up these two legends??? A Fantasy becomes a reality in your lifetime, Don't you wanna see History in the making??? We're lucky my friends!! Don't be a kill joy!!!
Read this article & be enlighten:
I'm Drinking the Kool-Aid
I guess he'll win this and then the march starts towards Mora for the 154 strap... Pavlik should be next on the list for the middlewight crown... I guess then He can go after Mikkel Kessler for a 168 title... Why not go after Joe C after that.... Assuming he's not retired... That'd be an awesome fight. I guess then there is nothing else to do then go after the Cruisers... USS Cunningham would be a good target... Pac could clearly woop his ass... The we can set up the epic battle between Wlad and Manny..
Yeah...
Your are not seeing it!! Pac is after DLH coz DLH is already slow & old. Did you read the Roach interview??? You just waste time typing your bullshit.
Pac already achieved a lot. He already retired & Koed Legends in his weightclass. He is already the Highest Paid in his weightclass. He already Hold the PPV record buys at 140 & below class. The only way he can add more to his Legacy is to beat a Bigger Legends while Making the Biggest money too.
This is DLH last fight. There will be no more opportunity like this. As Roach have said "Don't miss the Boat!"
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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Pacdbest2
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Originally Posted by
PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
Don't you want to see what really will happen if you match up these two legends??? A Fantasy becomes a reality in your lifetime, Don't you wanna see History in the making??? We're lucky my friends!! Don't be a kill joy!!!
Read this article & be enlighten:
I'm Drinking the Kool-Aid
I guess he'll win this and then the march starts towards Mora for the 154 strap... Pavlik should be next on the list for the middlewight crown... I guess then He can go after Mikkel Kessler for a 168 title... Why not go after Joe C after that.... Assuming he's not retired... That'd be an awesome fight. I guess then there is nothing else to do then go after the Cruisers... USS Cunningham would be a good target... Pac could clearly woop his ass... The we can set up the epic battle between Wlad and Manny..
Yeah...
Your are not seeing it!! Pac is after DLH coz DLH is already slow & old. Did you read the Roach interview??? You just waste time typing your bullshit.
Pac already achieved a lot. He already retired & Koed Legends in his weightclass. He is already the Highest Paid in his weightclass. He already Hold the PPV record buys at 140 & below class. The only way he can add more to his Legacy is to beat a Bigger Legends while Making the Biggest money too.
This is DLH last fight. There will be no more opportunity like this. As Roach have said "Don't miss the Boat!"
Nah, I read it... Don't get your panties all hoisted up... I'm just breaking your balls.
I can see what he's doing and as I said, I will always respect Pac. I think he's on his way to greatness but DLH will win...
To much weight for Manny... Sorry. That's what I believe...
If this fight goes through it sounds like you're gonna be mighty disappointed.
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Re: Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by
Pacdbest2
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
I guess he'll win this and then the march starts towards Mora for the 154 strap... Pavlik should be next on the list for the middlewight crown... I guess then He can go after Mikkel Kessler for a 168 title... Why not go after Joe C after that.... Assuming he's not retired... That'd be an awesome fight. I guess then there is nothing else to do then go after the Cruisers... USS Cunningham would be a good target... Pac could clearly woop his ass... The we can set up the epic battle between Wlad and Manny..
Yeah...
Your are not seeing it!! Pac is after DLH coz DLH is already slow & old. Did you read the Roach interview??? You just waste time typing your bullshit.
Pac already achieved a lot. He already retired & Koed Legends in his weightclass. He is already the Highest Paid in his weightclass. He already Hold the PPV record buys at 140 & below class. The only way he can add more to his Legacy is to beat a Bigger Legends while Making the Biggest money too.
This is DLH last fight. There will be no more opportunity like this. As Roach have said "Don't miss the Boat!"
Nah, I read it... Don't get your panties all hoisted up... I'm just breaking your balls.
I can see what he's doing and as I said, I will always respect Pac. I think he's on his way to greatness but DLH will win...
To much weight for Manny... Sorry. That's what I believe...
If this fight goes through it sounds like you're gonna be mighty disappointed.
Check Boxing History.. How many small Great fighters beat a Great Big Man? Pac in his Prime. DLH the bigger, Older & Slower. Pac has more than a Chance to beat DLH. We just have to find out. But let's make this fight signed 1st.
Here's The video Interview I made asking some mexicans, a White guy & my kids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mNBt6sz-sg
