Showtime to do SMW tournament with Abraham/Kessler/Froch/Taylor/Ward/Dirrell?

I'll go with direll...i give taylor the least chance.

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

Great vid Jan thanks!

Personally, I reckon Kessler is the strongest of this bunch, though it is a very strong sextuplet. Kessler's straight down the middle style is going to cause trouble to everyone.

Froch got slightly lucky stopping Taylor so late, I think they're both fairly even. There's a lot of variables in there, but it's certainly the sort of appetite-whetter this division's been crying out for.

In the vid, Abraham looks to be the most reserved of the group, though that may be as he speaks the least English. Really looking forward to this one, might trip up to Nottingham for Froch's first.

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Thanks, but where is Andre Ward on this video, Its a group photo, Maybe Ward dropped out???

I think Abraham wins it overall beating Kessler in the final, but I think every fighter will lose a fight at some stage

Kessler is my pick. It's the easy pick, but it's also the obvious one.

As for the first fights, I think they will go:

Abraham will stop Taylor late, Taylor will be ahead on points at the time

Kessler will beat Ward on points in a close-ish one

Froch - Dirrell is hard for me to call. I think Froch fought better competition but I'm still not sold on him. I'm picking Dirrell to pull off the upset, even though if I'm being totally honest with myself I favor Froch to win.

My main observation of that photo shoot is that they are all keeping themselves in fairly good condition between fights. Doesnt look like much drinking and eating shite going on with that lot.

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Originally Posted by jangeorg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJTTF...layer_embedded

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Kessler still looks to be in pretty good shape, despite the inactivity.

I'm the hometown fan, but I'd love for Taylor to get another shot at Froch. I think either of the Andre's fought at their pace, they'd beat Froch.

AA v. Froch would probably be Froch's best fight strictly from a conditioning stand point. I favor AA though...

I too pick Kessler as the tourney winner, although AA does provide an interesting afterthought.

Where the hell is Bute in all this? Is Balzsay so bad that even with a title and an undefeated record he couldn't get an invite?

I think the winner of Bute v. Andrade owes Allan Green a shot.

I am going for Andre Ward to take this, love what I saw with Miranda and I have a feeling he will fight Kessler in the bay area, which means I will be there :)

Froch I think is doing the worst out of the group, think if him and Jermain fight again Jermain takes it with that being said Jermain is coming in 2nd from last.

Guess my order would be
Ward
Abraham
Kessler
Dirrell
JT
Froch

Showtime is doing a great thing with this. Great to see promoters collaborating to get this going. Hopefully it all pans out and the tournament last till the finish with little injuries (knock on wood)

I have a feeling Abraham is going to win it. He's class, he's just needed a stage like this to prove it.

Froch and Kessler are the other favourites for me, and the outside bet for me would be Andre Dirrell.

I don't feel Taylor has the stamina to last and I see no way Andre Ward wins this tournament. He's good, but not on the level of the rest IMO.

maybe AA.

KEssler is the easy pick, but I am going with Dirrell.

I gotta go with Andre Ward. I think it is his time to shine and emerge as the next big thing.

Froch doesnt have the workrate to win this , Kessler is fav on paper , but lets see what AA brings to the SM table.

I'm picking Andre Ward.

But that's a hard first match up for him. But I would give him a shot . I'd have preferred if the matchups were like this


Kessler - Abraham
Taylor - Dirrell
Ward vs Froch

Where is Allan Green and Lucian Bute? lol

Kessler is the best fighter for me, but styles makes fights plus he's been inactive, I think Ward gets him at the best time and at home ground, but still pick Mikkel for the first fight.

I pick AA to catch up with JT some time during the fight, late on probably.

Don't think Dirrell has the power to keep Carl honest, and he'll probably have to hang on to his lead late. Massive congrats to Showtime for pulling this off.

Here's a couple video's for the tournament.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJTTFH2s-ZI



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXl3Z2RKYyA

Will a poster who voted AA to take this explain their reasoning?

I like AA. He punched harder than anyone else at middleweight. However, he starts slow and takes rounds off. Can he do that at 168?

Interviews with the fighters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do1Wf...layer_embedded

That is cool; I can't believe this thing is going to come off;D It's crazy.:woot22:

I'm going with Dirrell, although I'm in the camp that thinks a wrench in the works will stop the whole tournament from going through.


Whatever happened to the lightweight tourney? Is there going to be a second round?

it looks like they are all good friends. too bad they have to kick each other asses :)

Everyone knows that Jermaine Taylor will mop the floor with the entire lot of 'em.

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I think I'll roll with Mikkel Kessler (and Jermaine Taylor) since he is a viking warrior and I am a fan of the Minnesota Vikings.

Friends, I won a prediction contest with this path of logic. :appl:

Kess wins

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/a...er_333777a.jpg

Im not saying Kessler is god but I am yet to see proof that he isn't!

I'm thinking Fen Fen and Kil' Sheep are correct in thinking things will go awry.

Someone gets hurt and they are forced to bring in Cory Spinks are some other absurd substitue.

Maybe someone kicks ass in there first bout and then decides to fake an injury until the contest is over?

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Originally Posted by GAME

Kess wins

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/a...er_333777a.jpg

Im not saying Kessler is god but I am yet to see proof that he isn't!

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The Calzaghe fight is quite strong proof that he isn't! ;D

Not as much power as god. I don't think he has the Longevity to match god either. He's been going for ages.

Im really looking forward to this tournament!
Ok like alot of people I have Kess as the favorite!
I think Froch might finish last, yeah he beat Taylor but I'd still
fancy Taylor in the rematch.
AA is a solid fighter who has a great chance, Taylor if he gets the finger out
I feel could cause a few upsets...
as for Ward and Dirrell, this is there chance to boom onto the world scene,
Dirrell I'd pick over Froch but think Ward will lose his first v Kessler.
Alot of good fights to look forward to though!!

Kessler beats Abraham in the final, if we ever make it to a final. I'm pretty sure Kessler has a mandatory lined up before the tournament starts so he should be good to go against Ward. I think Ward and Dirrel are the dark horses, maybe one of them wins it and we have a new star.

If this is true then we boxing fans could literally ask for nothing more. I think if they were unwilling to compete in the tournament then they aren't worth crying over. Where's Lucian Bute or Allan Green? Well, who cares? Bute didn't want to commit so I can't shed a tear. And Allan Green? For real?

The first round matchups are great. I think Kessler, Ward or Dirrell.

Kessler. I would love to see a Taylor Froch rematch. In which I believe Taylor takes him. The two Andre's not enough expierence IMO. Arthur Abraham too small.

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Originally Posted by GAME

Kess wins

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/a...er_333777a.jpg

Im not saying Kessler is god but I am yet to see proof that he isn't!

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The Calzaghe fight is quite strong proof that he isn't! ;D

Not as much power as god. I don't think he has the Longevity to match god either. He's been going for ages.

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God may have the edge in those two areas. Ill give you that but Kessler has a better tattoo !!

You guys are going to think I am crazy, but I think it is time for the Jermain Taylor comeback. He has had his whoopins, and I think that he can outbox all of these guys. If we see a well fit Taylor.. the Europeans will have a lot to worry about!!

My picks:
JT (bosting a record of 1-3-0 in his last 4 fights!!!!)
Abraham
Dirrel
Kessler
Ward
the other guy

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Originally Posted by JonnyFolds

You guys are going to think I am crazy, but I think it is time for the Jermain Taylor comeback. He has had his whoopins, and I think that he can outbox all of these guys. If we see a well fit Taylor.. the Europeans will have a lot to worry about!!

My picks:
JT (bosting a record of 1-3-0 in his last 4 fights!!!!)
Abraham
Dirrel
Kessler
Ward
the other guy

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Very crazy imo, id take both American boys to beat Taylor at this stage Taylor for me shouldnt even be in this event, he is only in it because he is a name.

I think Kessler is the favourite but im going with Abraham, Abraham looked solid at 168 against Miranda and smashed him to bits, Im looking forward to Froch Abraham that will be a tear up.

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by JonnyFolds

You guys are going to think I am crazy, but I think it is time for the Jermain Taylor comeback. He has had his whoopins, and I think that he can outbox all of these guys. If we see a well fit Taylor.. the Europeans will have a lot to worry about!!

My picks:
JT (bosting a record of 1-3-0 in his last 4 fights!!!!)
Abraham
Dirrel
Kessler
Ward
the other guy

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Very crazy imo, id take both American boys to beat Taylor at this stage Taylor for me shouldnt even be in this event, he is only in it because he is a name.

I think Kessler is the favourite but im going with Abraham, Abraham looked solid at 168 against Miranda and smashed him to bits, Im looking forward to Froch Abraham that will be a tear up.

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I actually am starting to lean towards AA to take it; Kessler's inactivity and no names he has fought since losing to JC might be detrimental facing this group. I think his 1st fights will be tough for him; actually there are no easy fights there anyways. I'd like to see Kessler/Ward; should be a good fight.

Taylor could spoil alot of parties if he can figure out how to keep the gas tank from depleting too soon. Will love to see Taylor/Froch again and see if JT can avenge that loss.

Froch is going to have hell to play with these slicker boxers; and his chin will be pushed to the limits by the time it's said and done. I wish Andrade could have got thrown in the mix; I had wanted to see him and Froch at some point; one of the uglier fights imaginable right now;D

I wonder if Miranda is a little burned about this;D He should be thankful he's not there; he'd be getting his ass kicked left and right.

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Originally Posted by JonnyFolds

You guys are going to think I am crazy, but I think it is time for the Jermain Taylor comeback. He has had his whoopins, and I think that he can outbox all of these guys. If we see a well fit Taylor.. the Europeans will have a lot to worry about!!

My picks:
JT (bosting a record of 1-3-0 in his last 4 fights!!!!)
Abraham
Dirrel
Kessler
Ward
the other guy

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Very crazy imo, id take both American boys to beat Taylor at this stage Taylor for me shouldnt even be in this event, he is only in it because he is a name.

I think Kessler is the favourite but im going with Abraham, Abraham looked solid at 168 against Miranda and smashed him to bits, Im looking forward to Froch Abraham that will be a tear up.

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I wouldn't go as far to say Jermain doesn't belong in this tournament. I think he gave Froch all he could handle and was whooping him until the last three rounds. I still think Jermain is the serious underdog. I got him beating Froch if they were to fight again. I believe he could easily beat both Andre's because of experience. He would probably have trouble with A.A. I think Kessler is just too much but hey you never know.

I like this idea for the tournament especially were anyone can beat anyone and not just some kingpin and all other's are just decent opposition. This will be very fun and exciting and hopefully this will start a new trend in all the divisions.

Carl Froch will come out the victor, he is the best super middle right now.

Check the betting guys ;D

Froch is favourite to win this tournament with British bookies William Hill ;D

Carl Froch 7/4
Mikkel Kessler 11/4
Arthur Abraham 7/2
Jermain Taylor 5/1
Andre Ward 10/1
Andre Dirrell 14/1

Whether he wins or not (huge not IMO) that is a joke.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Check the betting guys ;D

Froch is favourite to win this tournament with British bookies William Hill ;D

Carl Froch 7/4
Mikkel Kessler 11/4
Arthur Abraham 7/2
Jermain Taylor 5/1
Andre Ward 10/1
Andre Dirrell 14/1

Whether he wins or not (huge not IMO) that is a joke.

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I have to say the odds on Dirrell are at least worth a punt, even though I'm not sure he'll win, he's got enough to outbox a fair few of those guys. Abraham is good as well at double what they've got Froch. I'll check the Vegas odds, those guys pretty much never get it wrong

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Check the betting guys ;D

Froch is favourite to win this tournament with British bookies William Hill ;D

Carl Froch 7/4
Mikkel Kessler 11/4
Arthur Abraham 7/2
Jermain Taylor 5/1
Andre Ward 10/1
Andre Dirrell 14/1

Whether he wins or not (huge not IMO) that is a joke.

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I have to say the odds on Dirrell are at least worth a punt, even though I'm not sure he'll win, he's got enough to outbox a fair few of those guys. Abraham is good as well at double what they've got Froch. I'll check the Vegas odds, those guys pretty much never get it wrong

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Dirrell should be a decent bet to beat Froch, when it's priced up, if they have them that far apart in the outright.

This tournament is never gonna go as planned, but not having Kessler as favourite must be a mistake. ;)

kessler wins the final against abraham i would think

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Check the betting guys ;D

Froch is favourite to win this tournament with British bookies William Hill ;D

Carl Froch 7/4
Mikkel Kessler 11/4
Arthur Abraham 7/2
Jermain Taylor 5/1
Andre Ward 10/1
Andre Dirrell 14/1

Whether he wins or not (huge not IMO) that is a joke.

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Wow I cant see them odds being around much longer, Froch 7/4 hahahaha thats a joke!!

Abraham nice odds Kessler s pretty decent to, cant stop laughing at Froch at 7/4.