Old Super-Middleweight/Middleweight/Light Middleweight Threads

Should Andre Dirrell remain in the pool at 168? After losing to Carl Froch (currently 3rd)?
Andre Dirrell

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How far should Jermain Taylor (currently #4) drop? After being stopped by Arthur Avraham, 1 - 3 spots?
Jermain Taylor

Should Jean Pascal (currently #6 at Light-Heavy) remain in the pool at 168?

He did fight at 168 in April, but his last 2 fights have been at Light-Heavy & his next fight will also be at 175 in a rematch with Adrian Diaconu

Should definately remain in the pool. If anything, he should be moved into the rankings, he put on a quality display dispite losing.

No way a guy drops out based on a robbery. In fact we should introduce a robbery rule where a guy can drop a place based on bullshit judging. I have a big problem Froch being above Dirrell, let alone Abraham, after last night.

My mistake there, I meant to click 2 spots to 6. Still think he's better than guys like Bika & Stieglitz

This division is in serious need of filling up. Lopez should really be gone already & 3 vacancies would be taking the piss.

I vote that Geale's next fight should be for the #9 spot. A win here sets up a clash with our #5, Anthony Mundine.

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

This division is in serious need of filling up. Lopez should really be gone already & 3 vacancies would be taking the piss.

I vote that Geale's next fight should be for the #9 spot. A win here sets up a clash with our #5, Anthony Mundine.

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I agree, I definitely feel Geale should be rated, so if Barbosa manages the miracle a causes an upset I feel he'd have earned ranking

As for Lopez, his last fight was technically at 160 anyway as he was slightly over 154, but his next bout is scheduled for 154

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

My mistake there, I meant to click 2 spots to 6. Still think he's better than guys like Bika & Stieglitz

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All good, we'll count it as 2 spots for your vote

Not trying to be a dick here, but there should be an option for drop to pool, because he has lost 2 in a row. I voted him below Stieglitz, because a win over Balzay meant more than a win over Lacy.

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Originally Posted by killersheep

Not trying to be a dick here, but there should be an option for drop to pool, because he has lost 2 in a row. I voted him below Stieglitz, because a win over Balzay meant more than a win over Lacy.

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Your right mate, sorry forgot to put it on when I added the poll.

If any manager wants to vote to have Taylor moved straight to the pool just post it in here & it'll be counted

I'll keep my vote at 3 spots, as he did perform well in both of his last 2 fights until the final seconds!

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Originally Posted by killersheep

Not trying to be a dick here, but there should be an option for drop to pool, because he has lost 2 in a row. I voted him below Stieglitz, because a win over Balzay meant more than a win over Lacy.

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Your right mate, sorry forgot to put it on when I added the poll.

If any manager wants to vote to have Taylor moved straight to the pool just post it in here & it'll be counted

I'll keep my vote at 3 spots, as he did perform well in both of his last 2 fights until the final seconds!

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The vote's closed again (stupid me) but here's my 2 cent once again:

True that Taylor lost 2 in a row but even then, his performance haven't been terrible to the point of dropping from everybody's memory, especially as he always faced top notched opponents lately. I think we should consider how the lost happen and to the hands of what type of opposition, too.

Jean Pascal is removed from the pool at 168 by a vote of 2 - 0

Andre Dirrell remains in the pool by a vote of 4 - 0

Daniel Geale earns the #9 spot by a vote of 3 - 0

The vote was drawn at 2 each, so the lesser drop of 2 spots will stand

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How far should Jamie Moore (currently #7) drop after being stopped by Ryan Rhodes in 7?
Jamie Moore
1 spot to 8th (pushing Latimore to 9th & making Santos/ Foreman for 10th)
2 spots to 9th (Making Santos/ Foreman for 10th)
3 spots to 10th
Straight to the pool

Gotta be straight to the pool. If he makes some kind of comeback it will be at 160.

I going with straight to the pool as well

Jamie Moore drops straight to the pool by a vote of 5 - 1

Should the Alfredo Angulo/ Harry Joe Yorgey winner on November 7 fill the vacant #10 spot at 154?
Alfredo Angulo
Harry Joe Yorgey

Should Carlos Quintana remain in the pool at 154? He hasn't fought since Oct 25 '08
Carlos Quintana

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Should Sergei Dzindziruk (currently #5) remain rated, as his last fight was on the 1st of November ‘08?
Sergiy Dzinziruk

I voted to the pool, because I haven't heard a peep from him.

He's backed out of at least two fights this year, drop him.

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Originally Posted by killersheep

I voted to the pool, because I haven't heard a peep from him.

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He's trying to get out of his contract with Universum, who are currently blocking him from getting fights. I think in this instance he should be given an extension in the same way we gave one to Vasquez. He's actively been trying to get one himself, but they're due to hear it in court in Germany in late December/early January

I understand where Jaz is coming from & Dzindziruk has been trying to get fights, but we don't know how long it will be before this happens. His former promoters stepped it & blocked a potential Williams fight without them, & a lot of promoters won't want to get involved with him until the issues are sorted

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I understand where Jaz is coming from & Dzindziruk has been trying to get fights, but we don't know how long it will be before this happens. His former promoters stepped it & blocked a potential Williams fight without them, & a lot of promoters won't want to get involved with him until the issues are sorted

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They will be in court over it at the start of the year at the absolute latest. I don't feel in this instance that waiting 2 months max is going to be a major problem.

Last cancellation wasn't his fault. And HBO made him pull out of the other fight. He should stay

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I understand where Jaz is coming from & Dzindziruk has been trying to get fights, but we don't know how long it will be before this happens. His former promoters stepped it & blocked a potential Williams fight without them, & a lot of promoters won't want to get involved with him until the issues are sorted

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They will be in court over it at the start of the year at the absolute latest. I don't feel in this instance that waiting 2 months max is going to be a major problem.

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I agree.

He has proven enough to remain plus this legal dispute will be settled quite soon.

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I understand where Jaz is coming from & Dzindziruk has been trying to get fights, but we don't know how long it will be before this happens. His former promoters stepped it & blocked a potential Williams fight without them, & a lot of promoters won't want to get involved with him until the issues are sorted

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They will be in court over it at the start of the year at the absolute latest. I don't feel in this instance that waiting 2 months max is going to be a major problem.

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Yeah but how long before he fights again?

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I understand where Jaz is coming from & Dzindziruk has been trying to get fights, but we don't know how long it will be before this happens. His former promoters stepped it & blocked a potential Williams fight without them, & a lot of promoters won't want to get involved with him until the issues are sorted

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They will be in court over it at the start of the year at the absolute latest. I don't feel in this instance that waiting 2 months max is going to be a major problem.

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Yeah but how long before he fights again?

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Well, he's been in training & was ready to step in for Williams, so I don't think it will be too far off. I just think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

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They will be in court over it at the start of the year at the absolute latest. I don't feel in this instance that waiting 2 months max is going to be a major problem.

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Yeah but how long before he fights again?

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Well, he's been in training & was ready to step in for Williams, so I don't think it will be too far off. I just think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

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I hope so, but if your saying January 2010 then that's 14 months already, I don't think another promoter is going to touch him until he has his issues sorted

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Last cancellation wasn't his fault. And HBO made him pull out of the other fight. He should stay

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He's had some bad luck & I hope he gets back in there soon. But the boxing world moves on. Once he's back he can work his in again

Carlos Quintana is removed from the pool by a vote of 4 - 3

The vote to remove Sergei Dzindziruk was drawn at 2 - 2. Since Jaz is the manager & voted for him to remain he stays in for now.

The winner of Alfredo Angulo/ Harry Joe Yorgey will earn the #10 spot by a vote of 7 - 0

Should Daniel Santos remain in the pool at 154 after losing to Yuri Foreman?

That was one big disappointing effort by Santos. He needs to go