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I'm sorry but I really can't stop laughing. So Pacquiao should have fought Raheem at 135 when he just moved up to 130? And at 130 there were fights with Morales, Barrera, and JMM to be made. And in boxing legacy, it is important that a fighter avenges his loss.
But anyways, people here are saying fighting Raheem> Morales, JMM, MAB. ha ha ha ha ha ;D
Fucking liar. It wasn't that long ago you were sucking Gorress and Bumtista dick. Look at them now. I even remember one of you losers had a AJ Banal sig. :rofmaoal: Boy got skills. To bad the Tin Man got more heart than him. You got one fighter. And he chemically enhanced. Sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
VD is no racist, how dare we accuse this man of such.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseTill the day i die.Quote:
Originally Posted by titleist905tStill a bitter racist pig VD?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMust be hard on you that a juiced up Flipa is all you got. Oh the list of fails is long. Nonito Donaire is a sham. Rey Bautista transformed into Rey Bumtista. Marvin Sonsona turned out to be a joke. Z Gorress can't even spell his first name any more. Bernabe Concepcion is crap. Donnie Nietes is overrated. Aj Banal has no heart. And Ciso Morales sure did live up to his name Kid Terrible when he crashed and burned in 2 minutes. Damn. It really does suck when Rodel Mayol is the 2nd best fighter ya'll got. :LOLATYOU:Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainIt must really be hard on you that another ES-A joined the victim list. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I mean no. Course not
The man is too retarded to know how to be racist.
Quality over Quantity buddy, I dont give a damn if no other filipino gets a title belt. We got the G.O.A.T.
julius rain,
quality over quantity? are you serious? again, like i said, once pacquiao is done, you and your cohorts are done here. you'll disappear fast! GOAT? are you serious? :o
I agree. Mosley is pretty much washed up at this point and JMM doesn't look good past 135. Would like to see him fight the winner of Bradley/Alexander, some new blood at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Yep, someone younger, fresher, faster, slicker, unbeaten and most importantly....black! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogI agree. Mosley is pretty much washed up at this point and JMM doesn't look good past 135. Would like to see him fight the winner of Bradley/Alexander, some new blood at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Pac/ Bradley at 140 would be a cracking fight to see.
Mr Rain has been like a piece of furniture here for years...Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
Try to remove him and Saddo's grandma will whack you with her walking stick!
Hey, so what if it turns out that Pacquiao is close to being the G.O.A.T.? What's the big f*cking deal? We can't keep on hanging on to the SRR's and Muhammed Ali's forever, can we? And so what if there's a HUGE chasm between Pac and the rest of the Filipino boxers? Nobody claimed that the Phillipines were a boxing powerhouse, right? Well... maybe some people have, but it's not true. Give credit where credit is due. Pacquiao has won titles at more weight classes than anyone in history. Yes... even more than De La Prima Donna Hoya. He's beaten men almost twice his size, something Prima Donna never even dared to try. So give the kid some credit, huh? What's all the hate about? And Floyd? All he does is run his mouth and go around beating women and security guards. He can go to hell for all I care.
'Nough said.
Hopkins is an idiot. A pretty overrated fighter (a scuffling spoiler), an unpleasant character who has taken more from boxing than he has given ...... who cares what he says?
Wouldn't count him as overrated fighter. Sorry for the analogy for people who here who hates MMA, but he's like the equivalent of Randy Couture sans the Captain America theme. An idiot, yeah he damn sure is. But after watching the clip before his fight with Pavlik where a terminally ill kid (with cancer?) was saying Bhop was giving him hope and despite me wanting Pavlik to win the fight against Hopkins, I wouldn't really mind this latest antics of his. Doesn't mean I'd be cool with him being given free reign shooting crap after this one though.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
.... the color of the person pac beats up has nothing to do with anything. I hate when race is brought into this sport. There are so many fighters from different places with different styles and stories that race being brought up is usually just a last ditch effort of someone who can't just use intellegence to argue thier position anymore.
Hey V whos that Fag who keeps trying to talk to me? (see below your post)Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseFucking liar. It wasn't that long ago you were sucking Gorress and Bumtista dick. Look at them now. I even remember one of you losers had a AJ Banal sig. :rofmaoal: Boy got skills. To bad the Tin Man got more heart than him. You got one fighter. And he chemically enhanced. Sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainVD is no racist, how dare we accuse this man of such.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseTill the day i die.Quote:
Originally Posted by titleist905tStill a bitter racist pig VD?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMust be hard on you that a juiced up Flipa is all you got. Oh the list of fails is long. Nonito Donaire is a sham. Rey Bautista transformed into Rey Bumtista. Marvin Sonsona turned out to be a joke. Z Gorress can't even spell his first name any more. Bernabe Concepcion is crap. Donnie Nietes is overrated. Aj Banal has no heart. And Ciso Morales sure did live up to his name Kid Terrible when he crashed and burned in 2 minutes. Damn. It really does suck when Rodel Mayol is the 2nd best fighter ya'll got. :LOLATYOU:Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainIt must really be hard on you that another ES-A joined the victim list. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I mean no. Course not
The man is too retarded to know how to be racist.
Quality over Quantity buddy, I dont give a damn if no other filipino gets a title belt. We got the G.O.A.T.
Anyway I had JML and Bernabe on my profile. I supported Aj, Gorres and Rey but you gotta fucking admit most of these guys are young but expected to do well a.s.a.p. They are getting ruined before they peak. I agree these guys are no where near pac and they need to stop looking for the next pac cause they wont be one again.
By Hopkins definition Bradley isn't black, why you ask? He doesn't have a slick style (hit and not get hit) with outstanding hand and foot speed, and he's also an aggressive fighter. Therefore not black.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by milesYep, someone younger, fresher, faster, slicker, unbeaten and most importantly....black! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogI agree. Mosley is pretty much washed up at this point and JMM doesn't look good past 135. Would like to see him fight the winner of Bradley/Alexander, some new blood at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Pac/ Bradley at 140 would be a cracking fight to see.
True, but he does have a pimp moustache. Surely that counts for something. :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogBy Hopkins definition Bradley isn't black, why you ask? He doesn't have a slick style (hit and not get hit) with outstanding hand and foot speed, and he's also an aggressive fighter. Therefore not black.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by milesYep, someone younger, fresher, faster, slicker, unbeaten and most importantly....black! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogI agree. Mosley is pretty much washed up at this point and JMM doesn't look good past 135. Would like to see him fight the winner of Bradley/Alexander, some new blood at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Pac/ Bradley at 140 would be a cracking fight to see.
If only Bernard was as interesting inside the ring as he is outside the ring.
Gorres was always just gonna be a contender. I never saw champion in him. Nor in Bumtista who was going left and death with average fighters. De Leon showed everybody how far away from championship level he really was. Banal I liked at one point. But discarded him after he got knocked out. Not cuz he lost. But the way he lost. He gave up. He could of got up but chose not too. He further confirmed his lack of heart in his last fight. When he took the DQ win instead of going on. Marvin Sonsona I consider to be the biggest disappointment of them all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainHey V whos that Fag who keeps trying to talk to me? (see below your post)Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseFucking liar. It wasn't that long ago you were sucking Gorress and Bumtista dick. Look at them now. I even remember one of you losers had a AJ Banal sig. :rofmaoal: Boy got skills. To bad the Tin Man got more heart than him. You got one fighter. And he chemically enhanced. Sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainVD is no racist, how dare we accuse this man of such.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseTill the day i die.Quote:
Originally Posted by titleist905tStill a bitter racist pig VD?Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMust be hard on you that a juiced up Flipa is all you got. Oh the list of fails is long. Nonito Donaire is a sham. Rey Bautista transformed into Rey Bumtista. Marvin Sonsona turned out to be a joke. Z Gorress can't even spell his first name any more. Bernabe Concepcion is crap. Donnie Nietes is overrated. Aj Banal has no heart. And Ciso Morales sure did live up to his name Kid Terrible when he crashed and burned in 2 minutes. Damn. It really does suck when Rodel Mayol is the 2nd best fighter ya'll got. :LOLATYOU:Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainIt must really be hard on you that another ES-A joined the victim list. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I mean no. Course not
The man is too retarded to know how to be racist.
Quality over Quantity buddy, I dont give a damn if no other filipino gets a title belt. We got the G.O.A.T.
Anyway I had JML and Bernabe on my profile. I supported Aj, Gorres and Rey but you gotta fucking admit most of these guys are young but expected to do well a.s.a.p. They are getting ruined before they peak. I agree these guys are no where near pac and they need to stop looking for the next pac cause they wont be one again.
All your Gifs are cute, but its boxing and they all get hit. Wheres the gif of JMM having Pac dancing around after a counter?Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::Yeah. If JMM was so elusive then how come he got knocked down 5 times (counting the one when he held the rope) against Pac?Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainJMM wasn't slick or elusive, he counter punched his way throughout 12 rounds. What the fuck are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by zhubinYeah genius...how can you be slick and elusive and survive Pac...wait a minute...Marquez did it twice. Stop being a nuthugger. It's easy to give "hell" to fighters that are slow and walk into your punches. Don't jump off a bridge when Floyd does what Marquez did except 100 times more effectively.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
Floyd wont even get in the ring with pac cause he knows he aint going to be 100 times more effective against pac.
Your the one nuthugging floyds pussy where there once balls.
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Even a slow Barrera caught him with a good one (or two) ;D
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Plus Pac fought him twice in their best weight class. Floyd fought him at Floyd's best weightclass after he cheated JMM at the weigh-in scale.
Floyd is catchable too...
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I know what you're talking about. Something similar to these gifs but JMM missed though. :p
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I'm sure someone will find it for ya.
:)
Race does have something to do with it look at the string of opponents all are straight foward, slow afoot , and either close to the end of their careers or beyond. Ant to add the last few have been catch weight fights. So that means Mosley is the perfect opponent to smoke screen the lack of opponents that are younger, hungrier, quicker and yes black / latiin opponents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
Its all good, cant deny Pac is one of the alltime greats. Its hard to grade sometimes because of different eras and dynamics of the sport in those given times. Similiar to baseball in arguments.
Nothing wrong with giving Pac his props and glory.. I think his bigger opponents have been low hanging fruit of the division, but he has beaten them soundly and impressively.. He is humble and a real ambassador for the sport.. I changed my opinion on him after being away from here for so long and realized that my dislike for him was 1000000000% fueled by overzealous and sometimes misguided fans
Bernard Hopkins is certainly as controversial as he is outspoken. His observation about Manny, however controversial, states a fact: Manny has never fought a top African American fighter. The statement infers that Manny would have trouble with the style of Black fighters and has therefore avoids them. I don't think Bernard meant anything more sinister than that. If Manny's choice of Shane Mosley as his next fight was an attempt to address Bernard's contention I think it fails to meet the challenge. Mosley, once a great fighter, can no longer rise to the level of even being competitive with Manny IMO. Pacquiao's decision to take on the aged strapless Mosley who is comming off two poor performances instead of the young champion Berto who is comming off two impressive kayos has nothing to do with skin color. It has to do with minimizing risk. Arum’s ‘explanations’ notwithstanding, the Pac camp clearly recognize that risk is multi-racial, defeat does not discriminate.
He's a 45 (46?) year old black man from a major American urban center. Given the era he grew up in, race almost certainly played a huge role in his life as he grew up.Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::
hahaha ......ahhh the real question is why hasnt B-Hop fought any Filipinos? Oh yeah....is there a Filipino lt Heavy out there? welp...I checked boxrec, no Filipino lt heavy, you got lucky this time B-Hop!Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Well he has a point Pac will just have to fight Zab Judah next then wont he? ;D Because Mosely has a white grandma, right?