The one card was wide but Horn winning is fine. Close fight.
Atlas is being ridiculous again basically saying it's a robbery
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The one card was wide but Horn winning is fine. Close fight.
Atlas is being ridiculous again basically saying it's a robbery
Arum is actually smiling right now somewhere. It's a crooked half cocked dirty ol man smile...but it's there. Now he can move on. Manny won that fight for me.
Spence, Thurman, and for that matter even Crawford would make mincemeat out of Horn.
For that matter, Pac should stay from them also.
why did he have a walking stick and mention mayweather... and he had a speech prepared printed on paper :S... well done to horn, a fair win i think but the size difference was pretty obvious i think horn struggles v other champs but good luck to him he fought with great heart !
Not as bad as the Bradley decision, but Manny won the fight - close but not in question.
well if he wants he gets the rematch which should be big business is australia and then he can hand the belt off to crawford.. good work bob :SQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Huh, first time I've seen Manny be gracious. I respect that. I hope he doesn't change his story. Stay gracious Manny
Should say since I've only said it could go either way. I had Pac 7 rounds to 5
jacksonmman will be posting a good few articles in the next week S:
Teddy almost knocked the broadcast table over Ultimate Warrior style :-X. And the 'everyone gets a prize' reward ;D. Manny has been cashed out, not to diss Horns brass and willingness.
good day for australian boxing, toussaint wins, horn wins, brock jarvis beats rasputin :S andhooper beats salamov..
Headgear for the rematch.
People are being way too over the top about the decision. It wasn't a bad decision. Maybe Pac did a bit better, but Horn out hustled him most of the fight and did pretty well.
I would have had no problem with Pac winning. Close fight either way.
That was stupid manny won
There's the Manny I know, the headbutts had an effect and he caught a cold when he arrived. Some things never change.
Sorry. Manny just said that he was sick when he got there 😀Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I missed the last three rounds but glad the no-name Aussie didn't get "robbed." Out with old in with the new.
All the top welters in the world are currently shaking their head that they didn't get the "easy" breakout payday
I'm not saying blow out, horn put on a good physical show but PAC won
Get it on again later in the year, i must admit Horn has surprised me completely here. Manny has gotten old , he either takes a rematch or quits. Spence beats up on both IMO.
Yeah..... why should Manny be allowed to mention the matching 6-inch gashes he received on each side of his head?
It's not like they're a distraction or anything.
He probably won't but manny should retire he is not manny anymoreQuote:
Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN
8-4. 2 point 9th. 116-111. Manny out landed roughly 2-1, more effective punches, round 9. Can't see more than 5 rounds for Horn.
Lots of outrage coming from American fans/journos
Did Teddy have Pac whitewashing it? Last I saw was Spicoli post 5-1 to Pac when BoxNation had it 4-2 to Horn.
I thought Pac won comfortably but whatever. I've seen worse scores in other fights.
Pac was the more effective puncher.
Although to his discredit, he had the gall to mention the headbutts during the fight, accidental as they may have been.
He'll probably need close to 20 stitches on each side of his head.
And a coldQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Brother you're looking at the prelim fight ;D. Unless I'm totally tripping but I'll check ;D. Manny won this on simply the cleaner punches for me, not close. He took damage and got roughed up but he boxed better form in there. BoxNation is probably smoking somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonAnd a coldQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
And a cold too?? Boy... to add insult to injury. That Pac stops at nothing to make excuses, don't he?
The gall of mentioning that the headbutts may have bothered him.
Two matching 6-inch gashes on both sides of his head? PFFT..... suck it up, son.
After all, how distracting can it be to have your heads crashing every other exchange during a boxing match?
Some people have no intestinal fortitude.....
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compubox has pac man outlanding horn 182-92 :S amazing really not the way i saw it but whatever.....
... and Manny out landed Horn in 11 of 12 rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
Hey, I don't care who won, just wondering what the broadcast influence was, as I always thought it was close either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBrother you're looking at the prelim fight ;D. Unless I'm totally tripping but I'll check ;D. Manny won this on simply the cleaner punches for me, not close. He took damage and got roughed up but he boxed better form in there. BoxNation is probably smoking somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Listening to an American phone-in now, loads of fans are saying Horn won and they were listening to Teddy/ESPN.
Those stats were a joke. I don't believe for a second that Pac outlanded Horn 2:1. I never trust compubox. It's an awful way to judge anything. They are basically worthless.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
I do think a lot of people were heavily influenced by Atlas. He was so pro Pac. Bradley said in the last round that he thought the fight was closer than what Atlas thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterHey, I don't care who won, just wondering what the broadcast influence was, as I always thought it was close either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBrother you're looking at the prelim fight ;D. Unless I'm totally tripping but I'll check ;D. Manny won this on simply the cleaner punches for me, not close. He took damage and got roughed up but he boxed better form in there. BoxNation is probably smoking somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Listening to an American phone-in now, loads of fans are saying Horn won and they were listening to Teddy/ESPN.
My main frustration is that among boxing fans I have seen it pretty split. Among non boxing fans (including casual fans), Pac was the unanimous winner. Hence why I think that they were heavily influenced by Atlas. Fat dan also thought it was a terrible decision which is alright because he generally scores pretty badly.
Teddy went on rants with sequels about the bad decision if that tells you. Clear Manny win. Tim Bradley praised Horn all out but when asked had Manny winning. Tim also defended Horns effort when Stephen A. ignorantly smashed him prior and post fight so balanced network I suppose :p. Ya don't need a blatant robbery label to know a shat call when ya see it to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterHey, I don't care who won, just wondering what the broadcast influence was, as I always thought it was close either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBrother you're looking at the prelim fight ;D. Unless I'm totally tripping but I'll check ;D. Manny won this on simply the cleaner punches for me, not close. He took damage and got roughed up but he boxed better form in there. BoxNation is probably smoking somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Listening to an American phone-in now, loads of fans are saying Horn won and they were listening to Teddy/ESPN.
Manny by a few points and I think judges got caught up in emotion, thrill or worse. Well at least he won't have to be Spences or Crawfords stepping stone now
I watched it in Russian (a language I don't speak), and could see that there was a real chance that Horn was gonna get the win.
Early on I actually had it for horn. It wasn't Horn being some kind of rough housing juggernaut, as much as it was many seemingly under performing from what people expected. The high guard stance that says I don't really trust my reflexes anymore and the half fleeing almost backwards jab. Manny did start to land smarter punches after he learned he couldn't out tough this kid at his age and that the kid was wearing himself out the window of opportunity was left open wider. I thought he turned it around and that the kid was ready to go. I still wanted to believe they werent going to screw him despite the very pro aussie crowd (Both fighters entered to AC/DC hahahah) The cheering every time horn connected with a flail... and of course not much of any admonishment to horn for hitting on he break, headlocks, head butts, stiff arming, or following through with his shoulder.. or the mma sweep that sent manny down. Tough crowd. With every of of these controversies, i see less and less people ponying up for Septembers ppv.
Eight years since Manny stopped anyone and closing the show against someone who looked like a young SMW on the night was never going to be likely. The ref warning he was about to stop it after Manny showing glimpses of what he used to be in round 9 but Manny was never going to stop him at this stage of his great career. Blatant head bollocks and Horns rough edges aside it was close - ish but I thought Manny took it. A case of the wideness of one the scorecards being the robbery more than the result.
Actually was a good fight.
Horn was fazed and started strong.
Spence would destroy Horn and Thurman on the same night.
...as well as Floyd. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Manny said in the post fight interview that he did catch a cold on arrival.
I also noticed his shoulder was playing up in the later rounds..lol
People are so desperate for manny to score a knockout..what's wrong in seeing him outbox opponents?!
Stop putting this knockout pressure on him all the time!
He knocked out a faded Hatton nearly ten years ago but since that time he has outboxed lots of quality opponents including an undefeated Bradley.