Should not have let him have that round. Terrible knockout. A pool of blood seeped out around his face on the canvas. Was very worried there. Glad he is ok and that's what matters.
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Should not have let him have that round. Terrible knockout. A pool of blood seeped out around his face on the canvas. Was very worried there. Glad he is ok and that's what matters.
Think he wants Haye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
You win ;D. Perfect match me thinks with Wilder wanting AJ aka fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
No he wants Wilder :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThink he wants Haye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Who ???.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThink he wants Haye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
That's not a problem, Wilder has been turning down fortunes to face Whyte, he'll turndown even more now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Wilder may as well fight Whyte, as he's unlikely to get a shot at AJ anyway. Been reading that AJ will turn down a 50-50 split with Wilder if and when they have a unification fight. He'll also insist the fight be held in the UK because, in the words of AJ, he's the much bigger draw. I like both fighters (AJ and Wilder), but it seems AJ's closing the door on a possible fight down the road before negotiations even begin. I wonder why that is.
Wilder turned down $4 million to face Whyte, bear in mind he got $2 million against Ortiz, but even taking 10% cut against Joshua will beat his career best high payday.
Lots of people rubbishing the win because of Brownes shape, incredible how little boxing most fans watch if it doesn't take place in America. Browne was no different to he always is.
Incidentally it was again the left hook from Whyte that popped him. No right hand Whyte (upstairs at least)
My problem with Browne is that I hadn't seen him since before his ban so I admittedly couldn't really remember how he looked before that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
AJ is playing hard ball with those demands but so is Wilder with his 50%. They will compromise in the end because AJ wants to unify and Wilder wants to cash out as he is likely to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I wasn't talking about anyone here mate, I know most people here have watched them fight before.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanMy problem with Browne is that I hadn't seen him since before his ban so I admittedly couldn't really remember how he looked before that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Was listening to a silly fans phone-in on youtube, full of Americans saying Whyte is garbage and doesn't "deserve" Wilder, he needs to beat an American and stop facing UK bums (yeah.. Australia/UK/Finland all the same to them).
Oh and Joshua is a straight right ducker pussy, every caller agreed on that.
Wilder is going the way of Spinks, career high pay day and retires after he loses.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterI wasn't talking about anyone here mate, I know most people here have watched them fight before.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanMy problem with Browne is that I hadn't seen him since before his ban so I admittedly couldn't really remember how he looked before that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Was listening to a silly fans phone-in on youtube, full of Americans saying Whyte is garbage and doesn't "deserve" Wilder, he needs to beat an American and stop facing UK bums (yeah.. Australia/UK/Finland all the same to them).
Oh and Joshua is a straight right ducker pussy, every caller agreed on that.
Well its pretty evident that Lucas Browne was shot.
Whatever he had in the past had long gone , fat slow and no technique , many novice HWs would have defeated him tonight.
Whyte beat what was in front of him , but lets be honest he didn't beat much.
Lucas Browne looked like an old man on dodgy knees. Plotting around stiff legged while pawing and throwing half punches. To be honest, I never saw the guy before as hes never been given any time over here and any curiosity raised for me was kind of snuffed out by the doping allegation. I don't think it really detracted from Whytes performance. There were a few times that Whyte was going to the well once too often with the same punches and looked a tad predictable but that's because he had the luxury of trying to telegraph a highlight KO because he browne who couldn't hurt him and was practically out on his feet lumbering after him creating opportunities. I don't think Whyte is an unstoppable force but he certainly showed he was paces above browne.
Wilder wont fight him because he knows Whyte's smart enough to see the counter opportunities if he misses and quick/ aggressive enough to capitalize on them. There's always a chance that Whyte misjudges the distance (as many have in the inside ring) and fail Wilders obvious 1,2 litmus test, drops like a sack of doorknobs and then spends the rest of his time in there snake bitten and on the retreat. Whyte's not there but has the potential to become Wilders Kryptonite (an aggressive jabber with fresher legs and head movement, that will keep Wilder from planting his feet; while at the same time setting himself up to punch from the mid range where Wilder's leverage drops off.)
I am amazed some of you picked Browne to win? And win in the late rounds? I mean, give Whyte some credit- the stoppage was all but certain by the time the weigh in. Browne had no chance against an agile, tough, committed and in shape Whyte.
Browne could have seen the tenth if Whyte eased off of him. But there was no way he was going past ten.
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Originally Posted by MasterAJ is playing hard ball with those demands but so is Wilder with his 50%. They will compromise in the end because AJ wants to unify and Wilder wants to cash out as he is likely to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
C'mon. They're both heavyweight champions. The promotion when the fight's made will be huge... lots of angles. One's British... the other from the U.S. You can argue which one's the bigger draw and you'd probably right by picking AJ, simply because Americans have been slow to warm up to Wilder. But all that would change with the prospect of a unification fight. Why should Wilder settle for a lesser cut? It's a unification fight, meaning they both have titles. If they made the fight right now, I'd probably pick AJ.... but I wouldn't be surprised to see Wilder win.
If AJ really wants the fight, he'll be reasonable in his demands. Saying he's got plenty of other good fights to make is a copout, and not what the fans want to hear.
Nothing would give me more pleasure than Wilder getting even 25% of £100 million as an example. That will butt hurt Eddie. More pressure will be on AJ to unify and I am sure they will come to an agreement eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterAJ is playing hard ball with those demands but so is Wilder with his 50%. They will compromise in the end because AJ wants to unify and Wilder wants to cash out as he is likely to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
C'mon. They're both heavyweight champions. The promotion when the fight's made will be huge... lots of angles. One's British... the other from the U.S. You can argue which one's the bigger draw and you'd probably right by picking AJ, simply because Americans have been slow to warm up to Wilder. But all that would change with the prospect of a unification fight. Why should Wilder settle for a lesser cut? It's a unification fight, meaning they both have titles. If they made the fight right now, I'd probably pick AJ.... but I wouldn't be surprised to see Wilder win.
If AJ really wants the fight, he'll be reasonable in his demands. Saying he's got plenty of other good fights to make is a copout, and not what the fans want to hear.
Wilder could easily beat Whyte, that would make the unification even more attractive.
You Brits are so soft!!!
Wouldn't even show a replay of the KO... Why broadcast the fight at all?
We need to ask the question...would a 52 year old Ortiz beat a 28 year old Whyte?
Wilder beat Ortiz and knocked him out.. but Wilder has weak boxing skills and got hurt in the process.
Wilder vs Whyte would be interesting and might benefit Whyte to come in at the same weight or a few pounds lighter.
I think the onus is on Wilder and with Whyte off needed U.S exposure and sitting as his mandatory it's a perfect bridge to reach what he says is his goal, a showdown with AJ. The man was on the brink of being sparked vs Ortiz and his flaws shine as brightly as his strengths. Besides..he ducks no one right :-X. He'll have the UK fan appeal and a legit comparable opponent to AJ with win over Whyte.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterThat's not a problem, Wilder has been turning down fortunes to face Whyte, he'll turndown even more now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
I thought Whyte looked pretty good here, he is clearly no mug, looked strong and quick, he is a big fellow too.
Browne looked really horrible though, really makes me think there is more to his doping positives that bad luck, he's never been that great but he was done and breathing hard two minutes into the fight :S Whyte did very good though, I think most boxers would have struggled to finish the giant Browne off with as much style as he did...
My prediction is the wba eventually enforce the fight with wilder after wilder makes a dodgy defence next, Wilder being the yappy guy he is says something to upset Whyte(hard to do:S) at a press conference small fight ensues, team wilder calls for Whyte to be banned and so on, fight gets called off and never happens :S
Browne was absolutely shit. I think Whyte is a good fighter, but anyone would have looked good against Browne
He was clueless, unless his plan was to keep stumbling forward and getting hit in the face, he had no fight tactics or plan at all. No defence, no combinations, hands low, appalling technique, lumbering footwork
He knew he was outclassed and he tried to con his way into the fight with exaggerated hand movements, strange head feints and complaints to the ref.
The guy couldn't fight at all.
No wonder the fat useless lump felt he had to take so many PEDs that he failed two drug tests. Unlike Dillian, who has only failed one that led to a two year ban.
Cheating bastards
I've seen Browne fight a few times before and although he has always looked like sh-t, he was never that bad. It looks like everything caught up with him at once.
I must say they both looked terrible in the first, at least Whyte warmed up and started to let his hands go.
I had never seen Browne fight before that’s why I didn’t predict the winner for the saddo prediction thread thing. He looked awful. Whyte did what he needed to. That’s about the extent of the fight.
Completely agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
Make me sick as well.
Yea. With HBO you would have seen that ko replay at least six times from six different angles before the end of the telecast. I was looking forward to it. I think women are involved somehow. lololol....Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Set Dillian up nicely 👍
Browne was simply hopeless he was outboxed and he took a bit of a beating in truth he was well below World level he had no defence whatsoever
he walked forward getting punched in the face that was about it.
He walked backwards getting punched in the face too :S......Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando