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Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
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TitoFan
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brocktonblockbust
Canelo doesn't have to come forward in this rematch because it looks like GGG is going to be more aggressive coming right at Canelo which gives Canelo the advantage of knowing basically what the strategy is of his opponent and Canelo can either move back to sucker GGG to rush forward even faster but since Canelo is fast on his feet he can then do a quick pivot and pop him straight down the pipe right on that communist chin that Turkish chin that he has.
Canelo is going to score a shocking one punch knockout in something like the third round to shop the world
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brocktonblockbust
Canelo's frame isn't the same. Triple G hits a lot harder as well and will be much angrier this time as he got really ripped off in that last decision and will want to finish this guy up quick this time. When you add that anger in there and that he really wants to make a statement he may indeed kill Canelo.
Round 3
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brocktonblockbust
If Triple G comes in for the kill it will play right into canelo's hands. Canelo needs to break some jawbones in this fight by moving forward and stepping into the pocket. If Triple G is coming in for the kill Canelo has better speed and will knockout Triple G
Either way you're covered. ;) ;)
my actual prediction was very clear but you just are trying very hard to bend over backwards and not see it. Or I could do was I said Canela it's faster on his feet and has better hand speed. And so therefore Canelo will be setting a trap this time because he knows that he wasn't aggressive enough in the last fight. So because Triple G is more Angry he will be more aggressive he will try to kill Canelo it's what I really meant to say. And Canelo will set traps's Triple G coming in for the kill because Caneloe has better foot speed and better hand speed he will step into the pocket and multiply the force of triple G's forward rushing in with the stepping into the pocket by Canelo and the punch will be like a Mack truck to knock out the Turk
also when I said and that other part that you copied and pasted that Triple G will maybe kill Canelo and the third round I wasn't really talking seriously I was only saying that at that time because that was right after I heard about the tainted beef
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All credibility to your fight predictions has been restored. For a minute there it looked like you just say ridiculous contradicting things all the time, nice save brock.
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GGG wasn't looking as good prior to beating Canelo last time out and with only a couple of rounds in a year since and getting older still, this is my main concern. Of course I want GGG to seriously hurt Canelo and I do not say that lightly. I want him to really hurt him. A Hatton style KO would be completely justified and would be my preference. However, in saying that Canelo is a clever, stage managed fighter and knows how to pick his spots and the fight might well be similar to last time only GGG is that bit older. Fingers crossed for GGG and hopefully he hurts the body early and than lays it on hard up top.
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I will tell you the way the fight is going to start. In the first round Canelo is going to try to draw blood because it is a psychological advantage. The minute that Triple G sees the blood he will get slightly desperate to try to fire back in equal measure. But in trying to fire back finally he will over shoot the target and the slightly smaller Canelo we'll step into the pocket and really lay down the law. There will be a quick knock down in the second round Triple G will go down on one knee. The referee will not get Canelo out of there in time and Canada will then land a left hook while Triple G is down on one knee. @walrus is the expert on boxing so you will have to check with him about what happens after that but in my opinion than Triple G look at 5 minutes to recover. When the third and the fourth round finish Triple G will have gotten old overnight and in the fifth round wham bam right on the chin the turkey gets knocked out by the tainted beef @TitoFan fuck 'em is right
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Are you saying he's going to milk it for all he's worth? π that's a bit like adding insult to injury. If he can knock out the tainted beef burrito boy he should just do it and get it over with. If he takes him into the later rounds just to inflict greater punishment it would be rather unsportsmanlike and could lead to almost permanent injuries.
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brocktonblockbust
If he can knock out the tainted beef burrito boy he should just do it and get it over with.
THAT much we can agree on. An early, devastating, embarrassing, KTFO. That'll deflate Fishnets' cash cow just a bit more.
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I think you will knockout Canelo like it Caribbean midget y entonces urinar encima JAJAJAJ
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I think you need to do those quick sprints where there's a bit more oxygen.
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I hate to say it, but the closer the fight gets the more I feel Canelo can win this :-\
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Alpha
I hate to say it, but the closer the fight gets the more I feel Canelo can win this :-\
Of course he can. Golovkin is a year older while Canelo is in the middle of his prime years. Golovkin knows he can't count on the judges, and therefore has to win by knockout. That pretty much spells it all out for Team Fishnets, who can sit back and plan accordingly. One thing I'll give Ginger Boy is a chin. Golovkin will have to hit Ginger Boy hard and often to knock him out. He can concentrate on the body, but will expose himself to hard counters. Of course there's a chance for Ginger Boy to win.
No matter. His legacy is forever tarnished and nothing he can do will ever get it back.
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Re: Golovkin v Canelo 2 CONFIRMED
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TitoFan
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Alpha
I hate to say it, but the closer the fight gets the more I feel Canelo can win this :-\
Of course he can. Golovkin is a year older while Canelo is in the middle of his prime years. Golovkin knows he can't count on the judges, and therefore has to win by knockout. That pretty much spells it all out for Team Fishnets, who can sit back and plan accordingly. One thing I'll give Ginger Boy is a chin. Golovkin will have to hit Ginger Boy hard and often to knock him out. He can concentrate on the body, but will expose himself to hard counters. Of course there's a chance for Ginger Boy to win.
No matter. His legacy is forever tarnished and nothing he can do will ever get it back.
Yea it would be devastating for GGG to lose this fight.
GGGs mindset going into this void be his downfall.
I think he should target the body early and often.
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GGG Target's the body and he leaves his chin wide open. This chin is suspect I saw him wobble many times from mediocre shots. Canelo is going to win this with his left hook a very short left hook inside that travels less than 6 in. Bam lights out period Turkish dream
GGG tries to do some headhunting and Canelo will also get underneath double pump double faint and he is going to Land thunder early and quick
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Alpha
I hate to say it, but the closer the fight gets the more I feel Canelo can win this :-\
It is called nerves, they are good and just shows that the fight means a lot to you and you are excited about GGG beating Canelo.
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Gandalf
GGG wasn't looking as good prior to beating Canelo last time out and with only a couple of rounds in a year since and getting older still, this is my main concern. Of course I want GGG to seriously hurt Canelo and I do not say that lightly. I want him to really hurt him. A Hatton style KO would be completely justified and would be my preference. However, in saying that Canelo is a clever, stage managed fighter and knows how to pick his spots and the fight might well be similar to last time only GGG is that bit older. Fingers crossed for GGG and hopefully he hurts the body early and than lays it on hard up top.
I share the same feelings as you. I want Golovkin to win but I'm concerned he's a year older, further away from his prime and slowing down whilst Canelo seems to be getting better. Any close decisions seem to go Alvarez' way, ask Cotto, Lara and trout.
One bit of positivity to hold onto though are the pictures of both guys going into this fight. Canelo looks noticeably smaller whilst Golovkin looks noticeably more defined than last time. That bulk really helped Canelo get through 12 in the 1st fight I think. Now he no longer has the bulk and he's up against a stronger looking golovkin which doesn't bode well for him
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Golovkin was less than 4 pounds over 160 at the 7 day weigh in.
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Alpha
Golovkin was less than 4 pounds over 160 at the 7 day weigh in.
Golovkin should stay at middleweight all his career now.
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Master
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Alpha
Golovkin was less than 4 pounds over 160 at the 7 day weigh in.
Golovkin should stay at middleweight all his career now.
The money and big fights are probably at 160 I'd say.
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I am buzzing about this fight, can not wait. :)
Gennady Golovkin v Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez - Golovkin relishes rematch
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Gennady Golovkin says Saturday's rematch with Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez is "100% the biggest fight of my career".
The middleweight pair's first fight, in September 2017, was controversially scored a draw, with Golovkin landing more punches and considered the stronger fighter by many pundits.
"I hope it is going to be a better fight than the first one," said the 36-year-old Kazakh.
A May rematch was postponed after Alvarez, 28, failed two drugs tests.
The Mexican blamed his positive test for clenbuterol - an asthma medication that can also help build muscle and burn fat - on eating contaminated meat.
The drug is sometimes illegally mixed into livestock feed to make meat leaner.
Alvarez has lost just once in 52 fights - a points defeat by Floyd Mayweather in September 2013 - while Golovkin has won 38 of his 39 contests.
"I strongly feel both guys need each other to cement their legacy," said promoter and former multiple-weight world champion Oscar de la Hoya.
"'Canelo' has to go out there and get the knockout to cement that legacy and be the pound for pound best fighter on the planet. It is vice-versa for GGG - he has to go out there and win decisively."
Saturday's bout - which will be in the early hours of Sunday morning in the UK - will be broadcast live from Las Vegas' T-Mobile Arena on BBC Radio 5 live, with a live text commentary on the BBC Sport website and app.
The first meeting between the pair proved a gripping contest, with judge Adalaide Byrd controversially awarding Canelo 10 rounds of a bout many ringside observers thought he had lost.
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Since the tie, each fighter has spoken derogatorily of the another, with Golovkin unhappy at Alvarez's excuses for his failed drugs tests.
De La Hoya told BBC Sport: "For the first time I am hearing 'Canelo' angry. He has trained angry, he wants to fight angry. He wants to go out there and knock him out."
No match-up in the world of boxing right now could bring this much class and so many factors to a single ring.
The draw was controversy, as were the two failed drug tests for Alvarez. There will be skill, power, guile, resilience, pedigree and rivalry added to that controversy on Saturday night.
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Last year it was the fight that would save boxing after the McGregor v Mayweather bout, when people said the lunatics had taken over the asylum.
They put on a fantastic spectacle, it was gripping and you couldn't take your eyes off it. I still think Adalaide Byrd's score is the worst single score that I have seen in my time in this business.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/45494199
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Gennady Golovkin and Saul βCaneloβ Alvarez ramp up war of words ahead of rematch: βThere were injection marks everywhereβ
Gennady Golovkin knows the value of speaking English when it comes to establishing himself as a star capable of transcending boxing.
But the Kazakh middleweight, 36, turned to his mother tongue in order to deliver the most incendiary assessment yet of the 'drug scandal' which threatened to derail his rematch with Saul Alvarez.
The middleweight pair finally met last year bringing an end to months of negotiations but a draw that night, on September 16 at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, paved the way for a lucrative rematch.
They were supposed to meet once again back in May but Alvarez, known widely as Canelo which translates as 'cinnamon' due to his red hair, tested positive for the banned substance clenbuterol in two tests during February.
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Canelo insisted he was innocent and blamed contaminated meat from Mexico, where he had been in training camp, but still decided to withdraw from the scheduled May rematch. He was later banned for six months by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.
On Saturday, 364 days after their initial clash, Canelo and Golovkin go again underneath the same T-Mobile Arena roof in a rematch charged by their latest war of words.
And Golovkin, known for his cheery, respectful demeanour outside the ring, says he has lost all respect for his opponent as a result of the past 12 months.
βWhen did it start to go?β He said. βAfter the doping scandal. After the first fight I said 'thank you for a great fight' and he said the same. It was all very friendly. But after the doping scandal it was just...β
βI don't believe it was beef,β he added, before switching to Kazakh.
βPharmaceutical experts have determined that it was doping and not contaminated meat. I think it's nonsense and I don't like it. You could not deny that there were injection marks on his hands and on his arms. I don't know what it was but they were injection marks.
βEverywhere, on biceps, stomach, pretty much everywhere. All over his body you could see injection marks. But right now it's the last thing that worries me. I am worried about the fight, that's the most important thing.β
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Whether you believe his excuse or not, Canelo's reputation has been badly damaged by the incident and it was put to Golovkin that his opponent may have been doping ahead of their first fight.
But he said: βIt makes no sense to guess whether or not he had taken something. The commission has allowed him to fight. The important thing was that he got caught the second time.β
Canelo, meanwhile, shrugged off Golovkin's latest remarks after the pair went through the motions of the official 'grand arrivals' at the MGM Grand on Tuesday afternoon.
The 28-year-old, whose record stands at 49-1-2, remains arguably the biggest commercial draw in the sport and he received a hero's welcome in Sin City.
βYou saw the support out there and I'm grateful for all the support they can give me,β he said. βThey've been there for the good times and for the bad times and there's nothing more I can say than 'thank you'.β
On the 'needle marks' accusation, he added: βThose are the kicks and screams of someone who is drowning. Those are the excuses that they are making because of what is coming on Saturday β which is a loss for them.
βI've been monitored for most of my career, I've been monitored by WADA since 2011 and that's why they have authorities. I spend all my time in Mexico β that's where I reside, where I live and where I spend time with my family. When I come to train, I come and do it in San Diego.
βIt's different in the United States where [meat] is checked by the authorities and the government. It's a little bit different in Mexico where they don't have those sanctions and checks.
βWhen I was in Mexico I wasn't on a diet, I wasn't training, I wasn't on some eating plan so may have eaten it a few times a week. In Mexico, unfortunately, I now have to stop doing that because of what happened.β
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I think Golovkin is just making up the part about injection marks everywhere. If they were really injection marks everywhere why did he wait until after the positive testing to bring that up? That's a little closing the gate after the cows have gotten out
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Ray Mercer said he noticed injection marks on Tommy Morrison at the weigh in and he never said anything until years later.
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Master
Ray Mercer said he noticed injection marks on Tommy Morrison at the weigh in and he never said anything until years later.
Ray Mercer really took care of that problem in the fifth round didn't he hahaha
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It definitely happens, Freddie Roach said he saw fresh IV marks on Oscars arm before the Pac fight.
Rumours Roach saw an electric whisk hanging out of his shit box too are not yet proven.
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smashup
It definitely happens, Freddie Roach said he saw fresh IV marks on Oscars arm before the Pac fight.
Rumours Roach saw an electric whisk hanging out of his shit box too are not yet proven.
don't know if you heard but he is now running for president of the United States in 2020
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brocktonblockbust
I think Golovkin is just making up the part about injection marks everywhere. If they were really injection marks everywhere why did he wait until after the positive testing to bring that up? That's a little closing the gate after the cows have gotten out
TBH, I just think GGG is doing everything he can to get under Ginger's skin. I don't think neither he nor anyone else believes Ginger would be stupid enough to get PED injections. Besides, if he did and DLH had anything to do with it, the injections would most likely be between the cheeks.
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Canelo Alvarez claims Gennady Golovkin rematch is personal as fighters arrive in Las Vegas
Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez has warned bitter rival Gennady Golovkin: This time it's personal.
The world's best middleweights will meet again on Saturday night, 12 months after fighting to a controversial draw.
Canelo's failed drugs test earlier this year saw the Mexican banned for six months and the rematch put back from May.
Golovkin has repeatedly questioned his opponent's integrity - and Canelo is ready to punish him for it.
βIβm bothered by all the stupid things theyβve been saying," he said as the fighters arrived in Las Vegas. "I donβt know which one to laugh about or get angry about at this point but their statements are all excuses for the loss they will take this Saturday.
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"I have been using all of these statements as motivation for my fight on Saturday. I know that it can be dangerous to go in the ring with a hot head, but I have experience.
"I know how to use this anger in the ring intelligently. Iβm happy for all the support the fans give me, and I will give them a great fight this Saturday.β
Golovkin, who holds the WBC and WBA world titles, is determined to leave no doubt second time around.
"This may be a rematch but it is a different story, a better story, a bigger story," he said. "This fight is the biggest level for me, 100 per cent.
"I am healthy and strong. I had my best training camp. I have the fight I want against the fighter I want and on the biggest stage. Why shouldnβt I be happy?
"If Canelo gives me a chance and fights like he claims he will, I will knock him out. It is time for the Big Drama Show."
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A lot of it is probably head games, trying to take Canelo out of his game plan. It could backfire, and GGG could be the one who abandons his.
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ggg is fucked, he is "old overnight", way too old at this weight class to fight a little boy like canelo.
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brocktonblockbust
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smashup
It definitely happens, Freddie Roach said he saw fresh IV marks on Oscars arm before the Pac fight.
Rumours Roach saw an electric whisk hanging out of his shit box too are not yet proven.
don't know if you heard but he is now running for president of the United States in 2020
The way you choose your presidents, heβll probably get it! ;D;D
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I am nervous for GGG. The pressure is on and he knows how robberies work now. Maybe it will make him reckless. He was missing badly at times in the first fight and did no body work. It's anyone's guess where either fighter is at with Canelo inactive and GGG only going 2 rounds in a year.
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I think that because the first fight was a bad decision.
HTF did one judge score it 118-110 for Canelo! Just impossible.
That Golovkin will get a tight decision like Lewis did with Holyfield or Barrera with Morales.
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HTF is Adalaide Byrd, she hates the white man almost as much as you and Master.
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brocktonblockbust
Who is HTF?
Hold the Funds
How the Funk
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Originally Posted by
Master
I think that because the first fight was a bad decision.
HTF did one judge score it 118-110 for Canelo! Just impossible.
That Golovkin will get a tight decision like Lewis did with Holyfield or Barrera with Morales.
True but robberies sometimes happen to the same fighter in the rematch
johnny tapia got robbed twice vs Ayala.
hopkins got robbed twice vs taylor
marquez kept getting robbed 3 times vs pac
also worth considering that Canelo was lucky to avoid losses vs trout, Cotto, and Lara aswel as Golovkin and 1 judge thought he drew with Floyd so he's defo a favourite with the judges
hope it's a fair decision this Saturday
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GAME
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Originally Posted by
Master
I think that because the first fight was a bad decision.
HTF did one judge score it 118-110 for Canelo! Just impossible.
That Golovkin will get a tight decision like Lewis did with Holyfield or Barrera with Morales.
True but robberies sometimes happen to the same fighter in the rematch
johnny tapia got robbed twice vs Ayala.
hopkins got robbed twice vs taylor
marquez kept getting robbed 3 times vs pac
also worth considering that Canelo was lucky to avoid losses vs trout, Cotto, and Lara aswel as Golovkin and 1 judge thought he drew with Floyd so he's defo a favourite with the judges
hope it's a fair decision this Saturday
Accepted what you say but Hopkins was not robbed they were close fights against Taylor.