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DeGale has declined. He used to be a better fighter than he was today.
I think this is the first fight ever where I’ve been glad the clincher got body slammed. Da fuq was DeGale doing?
These judges are awful.
I had it 8-4...or even 9-3 Eubank.
Degale is finished as a fighter..gun shy and sloppy.
Eubank needs to drop back down to middleweight and get Canelo or GGG fight so he can retire early..he will never beat Callum Smith.
There’s the rematch with BJS but BJS is tainted..
Got to hand it to his people, if he can get Canelo or Triple G on the back of this they are master planners.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Excellent tactic from Eubank to sneak in and switch Degale's boxing shoes for roller skates.
I think there are a couple of British level SMWs that would have beat Degale tonight. Was so poor.
Degale's legs were gone at the first bell. His head was where he wanted his feet to be about a second before.
I saw in the build up that Degale started doing weights for the first time. Nothing wrong with that but changing up at that stage is almost always a sign that you are chasing something that isn't there anymore.
I’m not sure why everyone is hating on these two. It was the greatest performance by any British smws I’ve seen since Rocky Fielding.
Eubank definitely won the fight but it showed how bad DeGale is at this point of his career. Eubank was so sloppy. He will never be able to beat any of the top dogs in any weight class
Messy fight
Degales finished but we knew that anyway and Jnr is just a piss poor boxer.
If it wasn't for Jnr's fitness he'd barely be British title level.
Joe Joyce is good addition to the heavyweight division. Some are critical of him, but I see decent skills and power. I do realize Stiverne is faded and not in good fighting shape, but I liked the way Joyce handled him.
It will be interesting to see who Joyce fights next. I'd like to see him in with a fringe contender like Robert Helenius or Charles Martin, or perhaps another former Wilder opponent like Arreola or Szpilka.
Groves is bang on here....
"I thought Eubank Jr. would stop him,” Groves said to IFL TV in giving what his prediction was before tonight’s Eubank Jr vs. DeGale fight. “I didn’t think James has got it no more. I said it after the [Caleb] Truax fight. He wanted to prove something, and he got exposed. He got exposed [by Eubank Jr.]. We both boxed Eubank Jr. a year apart, and we know what happened. Every time I boxed him, I beat him. Unfortunately for James, he needs to call it a day, unless he has a massive tax bill that he doesn’t have money set aside for. But he needs to call it a day. He’s punchy. If you watch his interviews, he loses track of what he’s trying to say. If you ask what day it is, and how long ago stuff happened, it’s not pretty. It’s not nice to see. I don’t want to see that for anyone. I don’t want to see him in a bad way one day if he carries on boxing. I think he stayed hit from the Badou Jack fight. He was so concussed at the end of the fight, it was unbelievable. He stayed concussed during the entire Caleb Truax fight, and the rematch with Truax didn’t do him much good. He stayed hit the whole night. He’s the sort that wants to go rope to rope for his whole career. Sometimes it worked for him. Sometimes it didn’t. He’s never really looked that sensational, in my opinion. He much inflate his win over [Andre] Dirrell, as a massive achievement, but Dirrell never won a world title. Dirrell’s famous accomplishment was not nicking a decision against [Carl] Froch. His biggest wins was winning by a disqualification [against Arthur Abraham and Jose Uzcategui]. Other than that, he has a draw against Badou Jack. Let’s nip it in the bud for him. Someone put him out of his boxing misery, and call it a day. He won an Olympic gold medal, and a world championship. He’s a massive overachiever. Fair play to him. What would I ever need that man for? I feel sorry for him,”
Yah Groves isn’t wrong, except for the part where he says he doesn’t want to see him like that:p He’s kind of giving Degale the same treatment Froch gives him, no? I agree with him about DeGale having been done for a while, and sounding punchy, but no reason for Groves to rag on him for it and feign concern, or downplay what he did do before that. I mean Groves didn’t beat Jack either, Dirrel was as good as anyone Groves managed to beat outside of Degale, and it’s just shitty to be kicking the guy when he just took another beating.
That is cruel from Groves who looked "high" all night. You could be critical of his career equally if you were inclined.
I'm surprised DeGale didn't look for a DQ or try to fake an injury after that slam. Not a very entertaining fight. Good win for Eubank tho. DeGale should retire.
Eubank is delusional when he says he is top of the food chain and wants all the other titles. Smith would crush him.
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
DeGale was a much better amateur than a pro. Slippery and awkward southpaw with good technical skills, but never had the power to keep guys off him .... so he got drawn into war after war, and those are career shortening.
Good career though, but time to call it a day James.
Eubank only gets these shots because of his surname. He crassly plays the media game and is taking us all for a bit of a ride. Tough kid, and durable, but achingly slow feet and can (and will) always be outboxed and outworked by elite level boxers.
There is no way that a mediocre domestic level fight, that was never going to be entertaining, should have been pay per view
He's a spiteful cunt though.
So I like him.
Former two-time world champion James DeGale announces his retirement
Following his points defeat to Chris Eubank Jr. last weekend, James DeGale (25-3-1, 15 KOs) has decided to hang up his gloves at 33, with his legacy including becoming the first British boxer to win both an Olympic Gold medal and a professional world title.
DeGale won his first world championship when he defeated Andre Dirrell in May 2015, before going on to defend it three times, including a majority draw against Badou Jack. The super middleweight southpaw lost and then won back his title against Caleb Truax over his next two fights.
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The former British, European and two-time world champion released a lengthy statement Thursday, announcing his retirement via Twitter.
"Today marks 10 years since my professional debut fight on February 28, 2009 and today is the day I am announcing my retirement from boxing. It’s been an unbelievable journey and I’ve had an amazing decade – if I’m honest, the best years of my life – and having started boxing at the age of nine then being selected as part of the England Amateurs squad, I’ve collected many memories along the way. It is hard to admit that I’m not the fighter I once was, but I’m human and along the way, my injuries have taken a toll – both on mind and body and these things have contributed to impact my performance in the ring."
He added: "I lost the fight on Saturday at The O2, but I’m touched to have a good send off from the fans in my home city. The day after the fight, someone said to me that one fight does not determine a legacy. Looking back, if someone had told me at the start of my boxing career, when I was in the England squad, that I would become an Olympic Gold medallist, British and European champion and two-time world champion, I would never have believed them, but I did it and I’d like to think I did it the clean, honest and hard way with discipline and respect to the sport I love. I’m proud to say that I’ve made history as the first ever British Olympian boxer to turn professional and to win a world title and I am also proud to have been a road warrior – to travel wherever I needed to be to fight and to win. There's nothing left to prove."
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I’m in the same boat. I deal with lower level fighters(MMA and boxing) every day and you try to tell them things that will help them but “this works, I’ve done it for years” umm, just because something works doesn’t make it ideal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
DeGale retirement messages:
George Groves: "You reached the highest level. Congratulations."
Anthony Joshua: "Congrats champion. You had a great career!"
Badou Jack: "You should be very proud."
Carl Froch: "I would have backed him up & absolutely smashed him to bits."
I genuinely thought that you had made Up the bottom line as a punchline to a joke! Then I looked on Boxing scene and saw it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
Froch is priceless. He retired because he didn’t want GGG, DeGale or Ward and it was Chavez Jr. In Vegas or nothing! Yeah, some sort of warrior he is! :rolleyes:
Lol yeah I thought that Froch line was a joke. Almost have to admire him for being so consistent at this point.
You'd think having had some success and made a lot of money would have mellowed him but he seems determined to break his own record for making a tit of himself. What an arsehole.
IMMATURE ‘Grow up… I pity you’ – George Groves hits out at Carl Froch after James DeGale retirement comments
The ‘Saint’ has delivered his verdict on his old foe’s recent interview
George Groves has responded to Carl Froch after he made headlines talking about two of his rivals’ retirements in recent weeks.
At the end of January, Groves announced that he was quitting the sport and Froch paid tribute to his former opponent, before reminding him that he was “ironed out by me at Wembley.”
A month later, James DeGale also retired and Froch gave him credit, though also insisted that if they’d ever fought, “I’d have backed him up and absolutely smashed him to bits.”
When asked about these two latest quotes, George Groves told talkSPORT.com: “I don’t understand Carl Froch.
“If he’s trying to now carve out a persona that’s to his advantage that he is just a super negative guy who’s gonna give you stick and get work off the back of it, then I sort of half respect that and appreciate that was his agenda all along.
“But if it’s not, it’s like, ‘Man grow up.’ Do you know what I mean?
“No one’s listening. If you’ve got to be that bullish to get people to listen to you and that’s your craving, then I pity you.
“You just do the obligatory, ‘Well done mate, away you go’.
“Sometimes it’s a little bit forced, sometimes it’s – not disingenuous – but I’m gonna say it because it’s nice to say and that’s part of life.
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“Why not just be a nice person?”
Groves beat DeGale twice – once in the amateurs and once as a professional – but posted a respectful message in the wake of his retirement.
Froch’s own retirement came just after a time when DeGale became mandatory to face him and prompted an angry response out of the challenger who missed out on the bout.
Groves believes Froch has held onto one remark and now decided to use it against DeGale now that he’s also quit the sport.
“If you look at David Haye now, he switched a button when he retired,” Groves continued. “He became the sweetest, nicest guy.
“It’s not just for the cameras, he’s literally switched off that bullish, selfish, aggressive, fighter mentality and he’s trying to integrate himself into society.
“Carl Froch can’t do that. Whatever’s going on in his brain can’t allow him to do that.
“He had no rivalry with James DeGale… One comment Froch has hung onto that, he’s waiting until he’s retired and he’s spilled his guts.
“Grow up man, grow up.”
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Maybe Degales dad nicked Frochs pushbike back in the Nottingham hood.
Froch just wants to look like a bad ass , he can be annoying.
Froch talks a lot for someone who wasn’t that good. He was a step above someone like DeGale, but was a step below the top dogs. I hated Froch at first, but then I started respecting him. I then started hating him again.