Can Fury actually beat Wilder?

The same reason I like Fury is the same reason I like Trump

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

The same reason I like Fury is the same reason I like Trump

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Genius.

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I know.

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

The same reason I like Fury is the same reason I like Trump

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The same reason you teach English as well, right?

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Originally Posted by p4pking

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

The same reason I like Fury is the same reason I like Trump

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The same reason you teach English as well, right?

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YES!!! ❤❤❤❤ FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS!!!

you rock, bro! @p4pking

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I've always thought Fury would outbox Wilder, for obvious reasons, however, his lack of power is looking more and more a huge disadvantage, twelve rounds is a long time with such an explosive puncher as Wilder. Even if he doesn't spark Fury he only needs a certain amount of explosive bursts per round/fight to washover Fury's pitter-patter shit. Fury has proper fighting extinct, he knows how to look after himself, however, Wilder is a violent cunt who could floor anyone in history with the right shot (apart from Oliver McCall, of course).Fury landed twice as many punches, yeah but Wilder landed more "power shots" - blah, blah, blahGreat matchup, regardless.

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Good shout out to McCall.He’s not human. Beast of a man.

I don't want to hear any nonsense about Tyson Fury I'm not having any power shots. Tyson Fury is 6 foot 11 and could kill a horse if he hit them just right. Just like primo carnera and Ernie Schef

I'm not convinced until Fury's tested on the Drago-meter.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=940_EOYRyqU

Fury couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag.

6' 11" 270 pounds.....

That's devastating

I see nothing devastating about his punching power.

If it was a thing, Fury is more devastating using his size and weight to lean on people to tire them out.

Is there any reason to believe that this fight is not on for December? Was it just rumors that it was not going to go on

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Is there any reason to believe that this fight is not on for December? Was it just rumors that it was not going to go on

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They are only rumours at this stage, as for reasons to believe, the announcement is over a week late than was indicated (for a fight that both had already said its done), Fury has pulled out of fights previously. Fury could use another fight beforehand etc.

I'm hearing that it could take place on Nov-10 or Nov-17.

As the fight draws closer and seems to be a certainty at this point, it's worth revisiting the OP.


Putting my dislike of Fury and his style aside, I must admit there are certain scenarios where Fury could foreseeably pull off a win against Wilder. But having said that, I think people put too much stock into things like Wilder's lack of boxing skills versus Fury's "complete mastery" of boxing skills.

Fury has shown that he CAN be vulnerable to the right hand, as shown various times in the past. He tends to hold his hands low, a no-no against the bombs of Wilder. Maybe he'll be different against Wilder, but an old dog... new tricks.... that kind of deal. Meanwhile, Wilder gets all sorts of crap about his lack of boxing skills and true..... he's raw and unpolished. But it's not all about windmills every minute of every fight. People here talk like Wilder just came off the Tough Man tournaments in Alabama. He's shown some boxing skills in his fights. Granted, when he gets the first whiff of blood, he tends to lose control. But that doesn't mean he can't box worth a shit.

Also, of course Fury has to have SOME power. He IS a heavyweight after all, and a big one at that. But Wilder has been hit by harder punchers than Fury, and survived. That alone tells me chances are slim Fury would hurt Wilder bad enough to knock him out, unless Wilder just makes huge mistake after huge mistake. A one-punch knockout by Fury I think we can all agree ain't gonna happen. Wilder knows that, and thus will be less respectful of Fury. Fury might be able to frustrate Wilder in the ring, which is his only recourse because I seriously doubt he can play with Wilder's mind like he did with Wlad's. To frustrate Wilder, he's gonna have do some grappling, some fouling, some honest-to-goodness boxing, some pot-shotting..... in short....he's gonna have to turn in the performance of a lifetime.

Damn, after seeing one of the worst HW title fights ever (Fury-Wlad), followed by a pretty darn good one (AJ-Wlad)....... I just hope this is a good fight. Like I've said before, respect to Fury for taking the fight, and showing up Team Joshua in the process. Let Hearn sit on that one and simmer for awhile.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

As the fight draws closer and seems to be a certainty at this point, it's worth revisiting the OP.Putting my dislike of Fury and his style aside, I must admit there are certain scenarios where Fury could foreseeably pull off a win against Wilder. But having said that, I think people put too much stock into things like Wilder's lack of boxing skills versus Fury's "complete mastery" of boxing skills.Fury has shown that he CAN be vulnerable to the right hand, as shown various times in the past. He tends to hold his hands low, a no-no against the bombs of Wilder. Maybe he'll be different against Wilder, but an old dog... new tricks.... that kind of deal. Meanwhile, Wilder gets all sorts of crap about his lack of boxing skills and true..... he's raw and unpolished. But it's not all about windmills every minute of every fight. People here talk like Wilder just came off the Tough Man tournaments in Alabama. He's shown some boxing skills in his fights. Granted, when he gets the first whiff of blood, he tends to lose control. But that doesn't mean he can't box worth a shit.Also, of course Fury has to have SOME power. He IS a heavyweight after all, and a big one at that. But Wilder has been hit by harder punchers than Fury, and survived. That alone tells me chances are slim Fury would hurt Wilder bad enough to knock him out, unless Wilder just makes huge mistake after huge mistake. A one-punch knockout by Fury I think we can all agree ain't gonna happen. Wilder knows that, and thus will be less respectful of Fury. Fury might be able to frustrate Wilder in the ring, which is his only recourse because I seriously doubt he can play with Wilder's mind like he did with Wlad's. To frustrate Wilder, he's gonna have do some grappling, some fouling, some honest-to-goodness boxing, some pot-shotting..... in short....he's gonna have to turn in the performance of a lifetime.Damn, after seeing one of the worst HW title fights ever (Fury-Wlad), followed by a pretty darn good one (AJ-Wlad)....... I just hope this is a good fight. Like I've said before, respect to Fury for taking the fight, and showing up Team Joshua in the process. Let Hearn sit on that one and simmer for awhile.

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Nice breakdown.Fury has earned my respect and admiration even to a degree for taking this fight.I’m a big Joshua fan, but Fury is making him look bad by taking this fight with no fuss.I’d give Fury a 20% or 25% chance of winning. His two comeback fights were against slobs who were nowhere near as dangerous as Wilder.

Fury KO 5

Fury has yet to apply for a license to box in New York or Nevada yet.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Fury has yet to apply for a license to box in New York or Nevada yet.

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That should not be a problem. They hand them out to blind fighters if they have to.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Fury has yet to apply for a license to box in New York or Nevada yet.

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That should not be a problem. They hand them out to blind fighters if they have to.

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And MMA fighters.

They just seem to be delaying everything.

Seems Povetkin isn't licensed by the local commission either yet. Why do they leave these things so late? I don't think either will have issues with this, it just seems like something that would have been sorted.

I know two security guards who work at Barclay Center and they have heard that Tyson Fury is going to be involved in a false flag car accident in October to postponed the bout

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

I know two security guards who work at Barclay Center and they have heard that Tyson Fury is going to be involved in a false flag car accident in October to postponed the bout

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Don't think this should be on the main board, but any false flags will probably be against CNN or something like that.

This Thread is about can Fury actually beat Wilder and so if Fury decides that he has bitten off more than he can chew he will look for some kind of honorable way out and Surely a car accident or a supposed one anyway would be an honorable way out.

Thanks for your opinion that this should not be on the main board. I've been wondering lately who died and made you boss? you have been a real source of humor over the past 2 or 3 weeks and I just want to thank you. 💋

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

This Thread is about can Fury actually beat Wilder and so if Fury decides that he has bitten off more than he can chew he will look for some kind of honorable way out and Surely a car accident or a supposed one anyway would be an honorable way out.

Thanks for your opinion that this should not be on the main board. I've been wondering lately who died and made you boss? you have been a real source of humor over the past 2 or 3 weeks and I just want to thank you. 💋

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I was actually meaning my post about a false flag, move along now.

Can't see this happening in November at all, even if was confirmed tomorrow it only gives Fury a 7-8 week camp plus he's apparently on holiday for another few weeks.
No date set, no venue and both him and Wilder have suddenly gone very quiet.

For Fury it's often about accumulation of damage as opposed to a single shot, getting into the opponents head and demoralising them.

Added to that Wilders small body which Fury is likely to pummel until Wilder struggles to move and throw those big bombs.

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Originally Posted by sanatogen

For Fury it's often about accumulation of damage as opposed to a single shot, getting into the opponents head and demoralising them.

Added to that Wilders small body which Fury is likely to pummel until Wilder struggles to move and throw those big bombs.

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Wilder is going to take so much punishment slowly and surely from the big giant man that buy V round he will be desperate and his he will be huffing and puffing from Shots big shots from the giant to the solar plexus and through the diaphragm then he will Crouch down like a bobcat the same way that I told Alpha and he will deliver an uppercut that will literally take off Deontay Wilder's head and send it into the third row behind the timekeeper at the Bell

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

I know two security guards who work at Barclay Center and they have heard that Tyson Fury is going to be involved in a false flag car accident in October to postponed the bout

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Its going to be princess Diana 2.0..... Such a shame

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

As the fight draws closer and seems to be a certainty at this point, it's worth revisiting the OP.Putting my dislike of Fury and his style aside, I must admit there are certain scenarios where Fury could foreseeably pull off a win against Wilder. But having said that, I think people put too much stock into things like Wilder's lack of boxing skills versus Fury's "complete mastery" of boxing skills.Fury has shown that he CAN be vulnerable to the right hand, as shown various times in the past. He tends to hold his hands low, a no-no against the bombs of Wilder. Maybe he'll be different against Wilder, but an old dog... new tricks.... that kind of deal. Meanwhile, Wilder gets all sorts of crap about his lack of boxing skills and true..... he's raw and unpolished. But it's not all about windmills every minute of every fight. People here talk like Wilder just came off the Tough Man tournaments in Alabama. He's shown some boxing skills in his fights. Granted, when he gets the first whiff of blood, he tends to lose control. But that doesn't mean he can't box worth a shit.Also, of course Fury has to have SOME power. He IS a heavyweight after all, and a big one at that. But Wilder has been hit by harder punchers than Fury, and survived. That alone tells me chances are slim Fury would hurt Wilder bad enough to knock him out, unless Wilder just makes huge mistake after huge mistake. A one-punch knockout by Fury I think we can all agree ain't gonna happen. Wilder knows that, and thus will be less respectful of Fury. Fury might be able to frustrate Wilder in the ring, which is his only recourse because I seriously doubt he can play with Wilder's mind like he did with Wlad's. To frustrate Wilder, he's gonna have do some grappling, some fouling, some honest-to-goodness boxing, some pot-shotting..... in short....he's gonna have to turn in the performance of a lifetime.Damn, after seeing one of the worst HW title fights ever (Fury-Wlad), followed by a pretty darn good one (AJ-Wlad)....... I just hope this is a good fight. Like I've said before, respect to Fury for taking the fight, and showing up Team Joshua in the process. Let Hearn sit on that one and simmer for awhile.

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Nice breakdown.Fury has earned my respect and admiration even to a degree for taking this fight.I’m a big Joshua fan, but Fury is making him look bad by taking this fight with no fuss.I’d give Fury a 20% or 25% chance of winning. His two comeback fights were against slobs who were nowhere near as dangerous as Wilder.

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It's easy to take the fight with "no fuss" when you're not the champion and have very little leverage. That said, they have actually been negotiating since early June (Frank Warren confirmed this in his Boxing Social interview), so probably for around 10 weeks. I'd hardly call that "no fuss", particularly considering it's still not even agreed.

Agree with the breakdown of the fight though. Won't end pretty for Fury. But he will talk his way into a Joshua fight.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Seems Povetkin isn't licensed by the local commission either yet. Why do they leave these things so late? I don't think either will have issues with this, it just seems like something that would have been sorted.

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Would he need to re-apply given his last fight was in the UK?

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Originally Posted by Alpha

I see nothing devastating about his punching power.

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Furys lack of power means if he is to win it has to be over 12 rounds which is a long time to be in the ring with wilder and not get hit.

]Wilder will not be able to punch up so high he is used to punching down onto people. Half of his shots he lands with the inside of his wrist or even with the base of his palm, meaning the heel of his hand. Furys corner should really Lodge a complaint before the fight about those kinds of wrist bone shots

Wilder has terrible balance and when you put that together with the ballerina like agility of Fury you can easily see that Fury will knock him out the moment that wilder lands on the wrong leg with his hands down like the clown that he really is

Let this entire Forum mark my words right now with what I'm about to say. I am the Eagle Eye of boxing and I can tell you what it's going to happen. I am the only one to mention that the one and only time that Wladimir Klitschko was off-balance in the fight if you remember he spun around off balance and Tyson Fury was on him like a cat like a bobcat I should say so that the moment that Klitschko spun around fury landed a wicked punch one of the best of the fight that really rocked Klitschko. If there was one thing about Klitschko he always had pretty perfect balance and look what happened to him the one time he lost that perfect balance for a Split Second. Now think of Deonte the gangly mess of windmill octopus tentacles scarecrow pretzel legs whatever.

Tyson KO 5

When Brock makes a prediction put your money on the other guy. Wilder stoppage win round 8.

Good point but yeah this time it won't work like that 🏆💰💲😰