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First of all, thanks for your responses. Here are my own comments:
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Denilson-The-Comeback
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TitoFan
So tell us more about this White Supremacist Theory of yours, Denilson.
OK
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TitoFan
What percentage of white people in your estimation are White Supremacists? 90 percent? 95 percent? (you can use decimal points if you'd like)
All. That means I suspect that all white ppl are white supremacists
Why ? Because I can't prove it and because there is no master list of who is and isn't a white supremacist then I'm duty bound to suspect all
Ok, so "all" being 100 percent. But you DO make the clarification that #1 you "can't prove it", and #2 you "suspect all". "Suspect" being the key word here which by definition leaves room for error. So basically by your own admission there could possibly be a percentage that are not in fact White Supremacists. Would you agree with that statement?
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Followup question: At what point, on average, does a white child become a White Supremacist? 15 years old? 10? 5? (some other age?)
White children learn very quickly. That whites matter and black people don't and they learn that at a very early age. They may not be able to verbalize it but they understand there system of white supremacy where whites matter.
To clarify, ALL children learn very quickly, but yes.... white children included. But your 2nd sentence must be taken into the context of your earlier statement where you can't "prove" it, and can only "suspect." So there again there might be some room for error. At this point I would ask what percentage error would you say could be possible in your assessment? Just asking because in statements like this people usually throw in a plus or minus.
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TitoFan
Other than self-described African-American blacks..... who would you include in the group "blacks"?
I don't know what you mean
Ok fair enough. What I mean is WHO do you include in the group blacks, who according to you is the bottom of the totem pole with regards to White Supremacists? Because there are blacks from different nationalities and origins. Caribbean blacks yes.... their origin is Africa, as there was a very active slave trade way back when which include all of the Caribbean islands. But what about European blacks, or blacks from other continents that may not have originated in Africa? Also, there is the obvious mix over time that results from mixed marriages and the like. At what point do you draw the line when including people in the black group?
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TitoFan
Are blacks the only targets of White Supremacists? I would think the answer is no...... but I'd like your own take on this.
Anyone with melanin in their skin. But black people are the ultimate prize. Racist - white supremacy works as a totem pole and black ppl must be at the bottom of that pole and if black people are not at the bottom, then there is problem. Equality is oppression to white supremacists.
Ok so here you may have touched on part of the previous question as to who do you include in the black group. So basically, the more prevalent the black influence on a mixed race person, regardless of nationality, the lower they are on this totem pole you refer to, right?
Well again, thanks for answering the questions. Needless to say, you are perfectly entitled to your opinion, just like ex-Saddo'er Alpha was perfectly entitled to his opinion about the Earth being flat. Like him, you speak well (definitely have some great boxing opinions) and articulate your views well. But again, needless to say, you're always going to encounter a lot of differing and opposing opinions, many from black people themselves.
We don't know each other personally, but I suspect we'd have some pretty interesting conversations. I probably wouldn't change your mind about these things, but I would certainly try and inject some perspective from my own background and experience. I've seen racism and bigotry up close and first hand (although thankfully not directed at me)...... and yet I've seen enough to come to certain conclusions that not only differ from yours..... but also differ from probably most people on here.
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Ok, so "all" being 100 percent. But you DO make the clarification that #1 you "can't prove it", and #2 you "suspect all". "Suspect" being the key word here which by definition leaves room for error. So basically by your own admission there could possibly be a percentage that are not in fact White Supremacists. Would you agree with that statement?
If you had a 100 snakes coming at you, 99 were venomous, and one wasn't. Would you stop to try and find the non-venomous one ? Or would you close the door on the lot of them ?
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TitoFan
To clarify, ALL children learn very quickly, but yes.... white children included. But your 2nd sentence must be taken into the context of your earlier statement where you can't "prove" it, and can only "suspect." So there again there might be some room for error. At this point I would ask what percentage error would you say could be possible in your assessment? Just asking because in statements like this people usually throw in a plus or minus.
But here's the thing.
The white supremacists are the most powerful. It doesn't really matter if there is a small % of whites who aren't white supremacist. The ones who have the muscle in the world are the white supremacist.
You from P.Rico right ? Well I know if I went to Puerto Rico I'd see the white P.Ricans on top and the black P.Ricans would be on the bottom.
Every area in Puerto Rico were black people live would be the poorest area of town, the least invested area of town, the area of highest unemployment. Then I'd go to the jails and they'd be full of black people. I'd go to the best schools, they be full of mainly white P.Ricans, the best houses, jobs, land, property would all be owned by white P.Ricans. The black P.Ricans would living in the mud without a biscuit and they'd be looked down, seen as ugly, worthless, criminal, violent, backward.
White supremacy is global
And that would true all over S.America. I'd go to Brazil and they just elected a white supremacist president down there, so black Brazillians are gonna catch even more hell. I'd go to Uruguay, Columbia, Ecuador, Panama. Hell - Down there if your black, they'd just do gorilla gestures in the street. There is no filter as far as racism to black people in S.America.
So stop trying to be "the voice of reason", trying to think your kinda smart. I've seen it before many times.
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What I mean is WHO do you include in the group blacks, who according to you is the bottom of the totem pole with regards to White Supremacists? Because there are blacks from different nationalities and origins. Caribbean blacks yes.... their origin is Africa, as there was a very active slave trade way back when which include all of the Caribbean islands. But what about European blacks, or blacks from other continents that may not have originated in Africa? Also, there is the obvious mix over time that results from mixed marriages and the like. At what point do you draw the line when including people in the black group?
It's the same all the world - Dude
Where ever black people go were told the same thing
We don't want you to live here.
We don't want you to work here.
We don't want you to study here.
We don't want you to date her/him.
Even in China, India, Arab world, they hate black people too (for the most part) and have the same anti-black views as any white supremacist.
It's the World vs Black people.
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TitoFan
Ok so here you may have touched on part of the previous question as to who do you include in the black group. So basically, the more prevalent the black influence on a mixed race person, regardless of nationality, the lower they are on this totem pole you refer to, right?
Makes no difference. Look at Meghan Markle - She whitest black women ever. That's don't matter
She still get's it from politician in the UK and from white supremacists
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTfwFosX0AA7MPU.jpg
Or white supremacist (Danny Baker) ppl who are working at the BBC commenting on her baby
https://i2.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-con...44%2C338&ssl=1
Obama was mixed race. He still got it. And he was well spoken (what ever that means) Pulled his pants up. Stable marriage. No kids out of wedlock. He still got it.
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TitoFan
We don't know each other personally, but I suspect we'd have some pretty interesting conversations. I probably wouldn't change your mind about these things, but I would certainly try and inject some perspective from my own background and experience. I've seen racism and bigotry up close and first hand (although thankfully not directed at me)...... and yet I've seen enough to come to certain conclusions that not only differ from yours..... but also differ from probably most people on here.
As I say. I came here to talk boxing because, well, this is a boxing forum after all. And plus I've been banned twice and banning me again is a click of a mouse. So I'm gonna try to stick to boxing topics. But you did reply to me. So I had to respond
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Re: "London is no longer an English city" - John Cleese exposes himself as evil "raci
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TitoFan
Ok, so "all" being 100 percent. But you DO make the clarification that #1 you "can't prove it", and #2 you "suspect all". "Suspect" being the key word here which by definition leaves room for error. So basically by your own admission there could possibly be a percentage that are not in fact White Supremacists. Would you agree with that statement?
If you had a 100 snakes coming at you, 99 were venomous, and one wasn't. Would you stop to try and find the non-venomous one ? Or would you close the door on the lot of them ?
But we're not talking venomous snakes, are we. A White Supremacist isn't going to kill you with one bite. If you treat people like you do snakes, there's a huge part of the problem right there.
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TitoFan
To clarify, ALL children learn very quickly, but yes.... white children included. But your 2nd sentence must be taken into the context of your earlier statement where you can't "prove" it, and can only "suspect." So there again there might be some room for error. At this point I would ask what percentage error would you say could be possible in your assessment? Just asking because in statements like this people usually throw in a plus or minus.
But here's the thing.
The white supremacists are the most powerful. It doesn't really matter if there is a small % of whites who aren't white supremacist. The ones who have the muscle in the world are the white supremacist.
So here you've cracked the door open to the possibility that not ALL whites are White Supremacists. That in itself is a start, albeit a very small start. About having "muscle in the world"... sure... there are racist whites in positions of power. No argument there. But there are also powerful whites who are far from racist. But I guess this is where you and I will never agree.
You from P.Rico right ? Well I know if I went to Puerto Rico I'd see the white P.Ricans on top and the black P.Ricans would be on the bottom.
See, here's the thing. "IF..... I went to Puerto Rico..." There's always that pesky "IF". Yet I'VE lived here for many decades and yet you dismiss any observations I may have before I've even made them. You're an intelligent fella.... but that is clearly not an intelligent way to establish an argument or dialogue.
Every area in Puerto Rico were black people live would be the poorest area of town, the least invested area of town, the area of highest unemployment. Then I'd go to the jails and they'd be full of black people. I'd go to the best schools, they be full of mainly white P.Ricans, the best houses, jobs, land, property would all be owned by white P.Ricans. The black P.Ricans would living in the mud without a biscuit and they'd be looked down, seen as ugly, worthless, criminal, violent, backward.
Some of what you say may be partly accurate, and some of what you say if pretty ridiculous. But what does it matter when you've already made up your mind about what we have here without ever having set foot on the island. I would tell you about how in some places (like Puerto Rico) the division between black and white isn't as stark as in other places merely because of our ancestry and history, but what would it matter. It would be nice to have a rational conversation with you, but as we've all found out long ago..... that is akin to speaking to a wall and expecting something in return. Sad.
White supremacy is global
And that would true all over S.America. I'd go to Brazil and they just elected a white supremacist president down there, so black Brazillians are gonna catch even more hell. I'd go to Uruguay, Columbia, Ecuador, Panama. Hell - Down there if your black, they'd just do gorilla gestures in the street. There is no filter as far as racism to black people in S.America.
Please tell me how many countries in South America you've visited. Fair question, is it not?
So stop trying to be "the voice of reason", trying to think your kinda smart. I've seen it before many times.
I'm not trying to be "the voice of reason" of trying to pass myself off as anything. I'm merely trying to have a rational conversation with you, as I would if we were face to face. But your tone is rather antagonistic, and I don't see why. You tell others they're insulting and attacking you..... and you're pretty close to doing the same to me.
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TitoFan
What I mean is WHO do you include in the group blacks, who according to you is the bottom of the totem pole with regards to White Supremacists? Because there are blacks from different nationalities and origins. Caribbean blacks yes.... their origin is Africa, as there was a very active slave trade way back when which include all of the Caribbean islands. But what about European blacks, or blacks from other continents that may not have originated in Africa? Also, there is the obvious mix over time that results from mixed marriages and the like. At what point do you draw the line when including people in the black group?
It's the same all the world - Dude
Where ever black people go were told the same thing
We don't want you to live here.
We don't want you to work here.
We don't want you to study here.
We don't want you to date her/him.
Even in China, India, Arab world, they hate black people too (for the most part) and have the same anti-black views as any white supremacist.
It's the World vs Black people.
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TitoFan
Ok so here you may have touched on part of the previous question as to who do you include in the black group. So basically, the more prevalent the black influence on a mixed race person, regardless of nationality, the lower they are on this totem pole you refer to, right?
Makes no difference. Look at Meghan Markle - She whitest black women ever. That's don't matter
She still get's it from politician in the UK and from white supremacists
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTfwFosX0AA7MPU.jpg
Or white supremacist (Danny Baker) ppl who are working at the BBC commenting on her baby
https://i2.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-con...44%2C338&ssl=1
Obama was mixed race. He still got it. And he was well spoken (what ever that means) Pulled his pants up. Stable marriage. No kids out of wedlock. He still got it.
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TitoFan
We don't know each other personally, but I suspect we'd have some pretty interesting conversations. I probably wouldn't change your mind about these things, but I would certainly try and inject some perspective from my own background and experience. I've seen racism and bigotry up close and first hand (although thankfully not directed at me)...... and yet I've seen enough to come to certain conclusions that not only differ from yours..... but also differ from probably most people on here.
As I say. I came here to talk boxing because, well, this is a boxing forum after all. And plus I've been banned twice and banning me again is a click of a mouse. So I'm gonna try to stick to boxing topics. But you did reply to me. So I had to respond
Well I appreciate your responding to me, and frankly TBH, I'm of the opinion that:
1. You've had some traumatic experiences as a child or youth that have driven you to think this way (assuming you're not just pulling everyone's chain and it's all one big windup joke).
2. If I were to guess, I'd say you're fairly young..... and by that I'm implying that there's still some time/room for moderating your viewpoints as time goes by. We all mature till we die, so that's no insult (just in case).
You see... there's nothing quite like time to help moderate some of our harsh, extreme viewpoints... especially when we've met people who help us in that process. Not saying I've been of any help, mind you. But I'd bet if you knew me personally (and we're just a bit open to dialogue), I might be able to put my own two cents.
At the very least, none of what I've said to you in this latest exchange is meant to be condescending, hurtful, insulting, or anything of the sort. I hope it's received that way.
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Well I appreciate your responding to me, and frankly TBH, I'm of the opinion that:
Go on
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TitoFan
1. You've had some traumatic experiences as a child or youth that have driven you to think this way (assuming you're not just pulling everyone's chain and it's all one big windup joke).
Nope. Many black people think like me. Bear in mind I'm toning what I say down. There are many black ppl way more extreme than me. You think I'm extreme ? You know nothing.
Don't forget - Black people have to watch what they say around whites. The system of white supremacy protects itself by making the ppl it shit's on dependent on them. So black people (for the most part) are dependent on whites for jobs, houses etc. So whites can put a hurt on black person - real bad - if they start talking like I do.
Most whites are so closed-minded about race and get upset about it so easily that it becomes a waste of breath. Whites shut themselves off from any serious, honest talk about race with blacks. Then, partly from this engineered silence, they conclude that racism is no big deal. That's why your up here all shocked that there are ppl like me (And many more) who think like me
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2. If I were to guess, I'd say you're fairly young..... and by that I'm implying that there's still some time/room for moderating your viewpoints as time goes by. We all mature till we die, so that's no insult (just in case)
This is a moderate viewpoint. As for my age. I'm not young nor am I old. I'm 36. Malcolm X was 39 when he died. MLK was 39 when he died. Fred Hampton died at 21. Tupac died at 25. All of them had a deep understanding the system of white supremacy even though they were young. Age don't mean nothing (Not that I'm comparing myself to them)
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TitoFan
You see... there's nothing quite like time to help moderate some of our harsh, extreme viewpoints... especially when we've met people who help us in that process. Not saying I've been of any help, mind you. But I'd bet if you knew me personally (and we're just a bit open to dialogue), I might be able to put my own two cents.
When I think of white supremacist (and I've said this many times) I think of Ellen DeGeneres. I think Tom Hanks. I think Angelina Jolie. I think of the most kindest, innocent acting white person out there.
Racism - White Supremacy is not an angry thing.
The likes of David Duke, Richard Spencer, Aryan Nation groups, Dylan Roof are white extremists. They extreme advocates of white supremacy.
Most whites are not that extreme.
As the saying goes, this isn’t personal, it’s business.
I'll respond to the rest later
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TitoFan
Well I appreciate your responding to me, and frankly TBH, I'm of the opinion that:
Go on
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TitoFan
1. You've had some traumatic experiences as a child or youth that have driven you to think this way (assuming you're not just pulling everyone's chain and it's all one big windup joke).
Nope. Many black people think like me. Bear in mind I'm toning what I say down. There are many black ppl way more extreme than me. You think I'm extreme ? You know nothing.
Don't forget - Black people have to watch what they say around whites. The system of white supremacy protects itself by making the ppl it shit's on dependent on them. So black people (for the most part) are dependent on whites for jobs, houses etc. So whites can put a hurt on black person - real bad - if they start talking like I do.
Most whites are so closed-minded about race and get upset about it so easily that it becomes a waste of breath. Whites shut themselves off from any serious, honest talk about race with blacks. Then, partly from this engineered silence, they conclude that racism is no big deal. That's why your up here all shocked that there are ppl like me (And many more) who think like me
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TitoFan
2. If I were to guess, I'd say you're fairly young..... and by that I'm implying that there's still some time/room for moderating your viewpoints as time goes by. We all mature till we die, so that's no insult (just in case)
This is a moderate viewpoint. As for my age. I'm not young nor am I old. I'm 36. Malcolm X was 39 when he died. MLK was 39 when he died. Fred Hampton died at 21. Tupac died at 25. All of them had a deep understanding the system of white supremacy even though they were young. Age don't mean nothing (Not that I'm comparing myself to them)
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TitoFan
You see... there's nothing quite like time to help moderate some of our harsh, extreme viewpoints... especially when we've met people who help us in that process. Not saying I've been of any help, mind you. But I'd bet if you knew me personally (and we're just a bit open to dialogue), I might be able to put my own two cents.
When I think of white supremacist (and I've said this many times) I think of Ellen DeGeneres. I think Tom Hanks. I think Angelina Jolie. I think of the most kindest, innocent acting white person out there.
Racism - White Supremacy is not an angry thing.
The likes of David Duke, Richard Spencer, Aryan Nation groups, Dylan Roof are white extremists. They extreme advocates of white supremacy.
Most whites are not that extreme.
As the saying goes, this isn’t personal, it’s business.
I'll respond to the rest later
I think anyone in their right mind would hate you and feel superior in every way , you are the epitome of vermin scum.
Also to go along with your bullshit, why do you think Asian , white , oriental etc all hate blacks ? you must have a reason for thinking this ?
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Nah, you are in denial Denilson. For instance, do you do not think black women are not responsible for having children with poor father figure models and that the men are trash for leaving their kids with no father?
There is no better way to disadvantage a child and the black community tends to do this more than other races. Is it the fault of white people that only some black children are raised in a loving family?
You can escape self responsibility all you like, but this along with other reasons explains the struggle. It is a question of values. Automatically a child is growing up disadvantaged. Some will escape and do well, but it is a black hole for many. Then you have negative culture like music and gangs and then people like you. It simply does not help anyone. You have to help yourself first.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/7...nic-immigrants
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Apologies for the double negative. Pre caffeine phone typing to blame.
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Nah, you are in denial Denilson. For instance, do you do not think black women are not responsible for having children with poor father figure models and that the men are trash for leaving their kids with no father?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/7...nic-immigrants
OK. And how does that affect white people ? Or am I to believe that you really care if a black child is being raised in single parent household ?
And can you explain to me why Iceland (The whitest countries you can find. Iceland is proper northern European white. Right ?) has the highest rates for father-lesness ?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gB...o=w533-h287-no
Why in the world would a white person want to talk about blk illegitimacy ? In my experience nearly every white person who has done that had no true concern for blacks. Because those who did, those who were truly concerned about illegitimacy, were also just as concerned about white illegitimacy too.
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The black community out of wedlock rate in the US is significantly higher than that in Iceland Denilson. However, still very high in Iceand and that is unfortunate too. It is one of my pet topics. All I want is for people to make better decisions for themselves and their families so that others don't have to go through it. It is harmful. I and many others am a product of it too, but I eliminated bad influences and got ahead through graft. It is important to avoid repeating mistakes generationally. You are still young enough to get out of this mindset. No one has it in for you and you live in one of the most free societies in the world. Get the chip off your shoulder and see that it isn't just anti black, it is anti anyone not part of the elite gravy train.
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And yes, I do care that a family, a black family is raised in poverty in the West because of poor decisions. It angers me in fact to jeopardize a childs future like that.
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The black community out of wedlock rate in the US is significantly higher than that in Iceland Denilson.
I'll ask you for the second time
How does that affect white people ?
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And yes, I do care that a family, a black family is raised in poverty in the West because of poor decisions. It angers me in fact to jeopardize a childs future like that.
OK. So why are black people poor ? And why are the areas where black people live poor ?
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The black community out of wedlock rate in the US is significantly higher than that in Iceland Denilson.
I'll ask you for the second time
How does that affect white people ?
It is a financial burden and a moral burden. Society is everyone.
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And yes, I do care that a family, a black family is raised in poverty in the West because of poor decisions. It angers me in fact to jeopardize a childs future like that.
OK. So why are black people poor ? And why are the areas where black people live poor ?
Black people are poor because they generally choose to be poor. You cannot be anything but poor if you have no Dad and a Mother who does not work or works but struggles. Been there and got the TShirt.
However, with self responsibility and good decisions one need not be poor and can have a good future. I know black people with Phd's working as Professors including women, but they didn't get there without self responsibility.
You make it trendy to make bad decisions then poor is where you will be and more likely than not patterns repeat.
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Thanks for responding. See below.
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1. You've had some traumatic experiences as a child or youth that have driven you to think this way (assuming you're not just pulling everyone's chain and it's all one big windup joke).
Nope. Many black people think like me. Bear in mind I'm toning what I say down. There are many black ppl way more extreme than me. You think I'm extreme ? You know nothing.
Oh, I appreciate you toning it down. God forbid you just blurted shit out.
Define "many black people". 10 percent? 50 percent? 90 percent? And you know this how?
And no Denilson. YOU know nothing. You're 36 years old and think you've got life and the world figured out. You talk about places you've never been to, and make sweeping statements about them. If you see nothing wrong with that, I'm afraid convincing you otherwise is beyond my pay grade.
Don't forget - Black people have to watch what they say around whites. The system of white supremacy protects itself by making the ppl it shit's on dependent on them. So black people (for the most part) are dependent on whites for jobs, houses etc. So whites can put a hurt on black person - real bad - if they start talking like I do.
Most whites are so closed-minded about race and get upset about it so easily that it becomes a waste of breath. Whites shut themselves off from any serious, honest talk about race with blacks. Then, partly from this engineered silence, they conclude that racism is no big deal. That's why your up here all shocked that there are ppl like me (And many more) who think like me
Do tell, Denilson. "Serious, honest talk about race" you say. I don't know about you, but serious, honest talk begins with listening as well as talking. You seem to be unable to do the former..... because you're busy doing the latter.
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2. If I were to guess, I'd say you're fairly young..... and by that I'm implying that there's still some time/room for moderating your viewpoints as time goes by. We all mature till we die, so that's no insult (just in case)
This is a moderate viewpoint. As for my age. I'm not young nor am I old. I'm 36. Malcolm X was 39 when he died. MLK was 39 when he died. Fred Hampton died at 21. Tupac died at 25. All of them had a deep understanding the system of white supremacy even though they were young. Age don't mean nothing (Not that I'm comparing myself to them)
Age is relative. To me, 36 is quite young. If you live to the average lifespan, you haven't reached the halfway point of your life, and you've only spent about half your life in adulthood. I would venture to say you've got a lot of life to live, experiences to have, and maturing to do. That is how life works. I wouldn't bet money on it..... but I'd guess you'll probably moderate those feelings of yours in another 10 years.
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You see... there's nothing quite like time to help moderate some of our harsh, extreme viewpoints... especially when we've met people who help us in that process. Not saying I've been of any help, mind you. But I'd bet if you knew me personally (and we're just a bit open to dialogue), I might be able to put my own two cents.
When I think of white supremacist (and I've said this many times) I think of Ellen DeGeneres. I think Tom Hanks. I think Angelina Jolie. I think of the most kindest, innocent acting white person out there.
I know none of those people personally. Hey....... come to think of it, neither do you. I can't speak to their innermost feelings about race. But it's sad when you're reduced to grouping people together without knowing a damn thing about them. You talk about "serious, honest talk about race" but...... do you really know what that means? You know the worst part of this? You're doing a great disservice not to white people, but to black people themselves. You're not giving them credit for being intelligent, mature, balanced, successful individuals in their own right. You're lumping them all together and assigning the same crass, absurd, broad-brush, angry mentalities to them.
Racism - White Supremacy is not an angry thing.
I'm calling bullshit on that one. It may not be an angry thing to the unsuspecting white folks who have no idea bitter, twisted black people like you exist....... but it certainly is every bit angry as far as you're concerned. Deny it all you want. It's impossible to be so bitter and twisted without also being angry. Hell......... if I thought the majority of humanity was out to get me....... I'd be pretty damn angry myself.
The likes of David Duke, Richard Spencer, Aryan Nation groups, Dylan Roof are white extremists. They extreme advocates of white supremacy.
David Duke, Richard Spencer (not too familiar with him, TBH) and Aryan Nation groups aren't extreme anything. They're brain-dead morons, ridiculed and dismissed by a majority of white people. Dylan Roof is a sick fuck who doesn't deserve a quick death. Nor does he deserve imprisonment with free room and board. My personal beliefs don't allow for torture, but he'd be a pretty good candidate.
Most whites are not that extreme.
As the saying goes, this isn’t personal, it’s business.
I'll respond to the rest later
Yeah..... you do that. Just do me a favor. Drop the condescending tone. You don't know me, or anything about me. Or else just drop the pretense of wanting to have "serious, honest talk."
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The black community out of wedlock rate in the US is significantly higher than that in Iceland Denilson.
I'll ask you for the second time
How does that affect white people ?
Black dudes without a decent father role model are more likely to be criminals, therefore the possibility of being the victim of crime affects white Miles.
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And yes, I do care that a family, a black family is raised in poverty in the West because of poor decisions. It angers me in fact to jeopardize a childs future like that.
OK. So why are black people poor ? And why are the areas where black people live poor ?
Because people are most comfortable amongst their own kind, therefore poor blacks live with blacks, muslims choose muslims, asians (Chinese kind) choose asians and privileged whites with whites. The non-privileged whites live with poor blacks to maintain superiority.
The reason people are poor is because of the "hundreth monkey effect." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_monkey_effect)
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The black community out of wedlock rate in the US is significantly higher than that in Iceland Denilson.
I'll ask you for the second time
How does that affect white people ?
Black dudes without a decent father role model are more likely to be criminals, therefore the possibility of being the victim of crime affects white Miles.
True. They are more likely to be drawn to nihilism and thus you end up with London today being rife with violent crime carried out by gangs and it has been observed that this tends to involve blacks and Asians, though as usual the use of the term Asian is misleading as people tend to think oriental when they hear the word Asian. That alone affects white people as you end up with 'white flight' and white people fleeing their capital to somewhere safer, but if the numbers don't slow then they will be followed and eventually there will be nowhere to run.
And yes, your post above this is correct. People typically mix with their own groups and if the groups are going to pass on negative characteristics and attitudes, then that is what you get. You get people like me, Brock and Tommy Robinson who do mix with others, but many do not do that. Up to them at the end of the day, but if you are going to bring in millions of people and require no integration then good luck with that experiment!
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And yes, I do care that a family, a black family is raised in poverty in the West because of poor decisions. It angers me in fact to jeopardize a childs future like that.
OK. So why are black people poor ? And why are the areas where black people live poor ?
Black people are poor because they generally choose to be poor. You cannot be anything but poor if you have no Dad and a Mother who does not work or works but struggles.
https://images.app.goo.gl/bdbKbh6nNc3DTAmZ8
You dropped your mask
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And yes, I do care that a family, a black family is raised in poverty in the West because of poor decisions. It angers me in fact to jeopardize a childs future like that.
OK. So why are black people poor ? And why are the areas where black people live poor ?
Black people are poor because they generally choose to be poor. You cannot be anything but poor if you have no Dad and a Mother who does not work or works but struggles.
https://images.app.goo.gl/bdbKbh6nNc3DTAmZ8
You dropped your mask
Look at the statistics and tell me I am wrong. I would apply the same logic to my own upbringing too and I am not black. People who make poor decisions typically stay poor. That is not very controversial.
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Barrack Obama: "More than half of all black children live in single-parent households, a number that has doubled — doubled — since we were children."
Barrack Obama: "children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; nine times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison."
If Obama gets it, then I am sure you can too Einstein. ;)
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And yes, I do care that a family, a black family is raised in poverty in the West because of poor decisions. It angers me in fact to jeopardize a childs future like that.
OK. So why are black people poor ? And why are the areas where black people live poor ?
Black people are poor because they generally choose to be poor. You cannot be anything but poor if you have no Dad and a Mother who does not work or works but struggles.
https://images.app.goo.gl/bdbKbh6nNc3DTAmZ8
You dropped your mask
Look at the statistics and tell me I am wrong. I would apply the same logic to my own upbringing too and I am not black. People who make poor decisions typically stay poor. That is not very controversial.
You are a racist and you are wrong. You are suffering from fundamental attribution error. You refuse to see positive values and attributes in the poor black people whom you assert "Choose to be poor". Other people's history and circumstances are invisible from your perspective.
For you, only you are prudent and hard working, and poor black people get what they deserve. This is what your racist arse is saying when you repeat the racist lie from your racist brain that Black people are poor because they choose to be poor.
You second sentence -
"You cannot be anything but poor if you have no Dad and a Mother who does not work or works but struggles"
Is another lie that does nothing but reveal the depth of your wilful stupidity.
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And yes, I do care that a family, a black family is raised in poverty in the West because of poor decisions. It angers me in fact to jeopardize a childs future like that.
OK. So why are black people poor ? And why are the areas where black people live poor ?
Because people are most comfortable amongst their own kind, therefore poor blacks live with blacks, muslims choose muslims, asians (Chinese kind) choose asians and privileged whites with whites. The non-privileged whites live with poor blacks to maintain superiority.
The reason people are poor is because of the "hundreth monkey effect." (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_monkey_effect)
Ha!
The greatest thing about the whole lesson is how ape like the people who rely on inventing data to get their fleas picked are exposed as being.
" The number of monkeys in the colony was counted as 59 in 1962 indicating that even in numbers no "hundredth monkey" existed."
(:
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And yes, I do care that a family, a black family is raised in poverty in the West because of poor decisions. It angers me in fact to jeopardize a childs future like that.
OK. So why are black people poor ? And why are the areas where black people live poor ?
Black people are poor because they generally choose to be poor. You cannot be anything but poor if you have no Dad and a Mother who does not work or works but struggles.
https://images.app.goo.gl/bdbKbh6nNc3DTAmZ8
You dropped your mask
Look at the statistics and tell me I am wrong. I would apply the same logic to my own upbringing too and I am not black. People who make poor decisions typically stay poor. That is not very controversial.
You are a racist and you are wrong. You are suffering from fundamental attribution error. You refuse to see positive values and attributes in the poor black people whom you assert "Choose to be poor". Other people's history and circumstances are invisible from your perspective.
For you, only you are prudent and hard working, and poor black people get what they deserve. This is what your racist arse is saying when you repeat the racist lie from your racist brain that Black people are poor because they choose to be poor.
You second sentence -
"You cannot be anything but poor if you have no Dad and a Mother who does not work or works but struggles"
Is another lie that does nothing but reveal the depth of your wilful stupidity.
Hmm. No. I am saying that many choose to be poor because of the decisions that they make. If you are going to get knocked up by a man that is not going to stick around which is the majority of black women in the US, then undeniably you are choosing a path of not only financial poverty, but poverty of the soul for the child. You can make excuses for that or chant 'racist' as much as you like, but it does not make a blind bit of difference to the statistical evidence. Even Obama would back me up on this. Is he a racist too? Just asking. Am I a racist against myself for suggesting the same is done to white people as well, but in less substantial numbers? The facts are the facts. The evidence is very clear.
Also, if I choose not to work or to not upgrade my skills or live on benefits then I too am CHOOSING poverty. Many people do and this is life whence inequality. Some people really do not have in them, do not want to try, and if possible will opt out. They will live in poverty. What really irks me though is people having children as a means of securing resources. That borders on the criminal IMO and is a form of hostage taking.
What is untrue about my 'second sentence'? People raised in single parent households will inevitably consume more resources of responsible people who do the right things and still live in relative poverty. It is unfair on the child and unfair on society and it is actively promoted as seen in a recent BBC documentary.
Many people work hard and make good decisions and many do not whence some of the inequality in society which is natural and normal and dare I say good.
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Gandalf you said
"Black people are poor because they generally choose to be poor"
It is an indefensible statement. It is just another example of the normalisation of racism. It is yet another example of your wheeling out a bigoted trope born of ignorance. That ignorance is born out of your own personality. You are not alone, fundamental attribution erroris very common.
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Gandalf you said
"Black people are poor because they generally choose to be poor"
It is an indefensible statement. It is just another example of the normalisation of racism. It is yet another example of your wheeling out a bigoted trope born of ignorance. That ignorance is born out of your own personality. You are not alone, fundamental attribution erroris very common.
It is a perfectly defensible statement and I qualified it by citing my own experiences as an example of it as the black community tends to put its families through the same needless grind as that which I went through too. Am I black? It was a choice by those parents to be poor growing up. If you have children, few resources, few skills, and then abandon your kids, then poverty is the inevitable result. It is not an absolute, but a general argument that is supported by the data. There are no rules in society telling the majority of black families to have no family structure. Like Obama argued "children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; nine times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison."
It is a choice to put children through this. It is a choice to get pregnant to men who will not stand by you. It is a choice to not give all your children the advantages that other children with two loving parents will have. Now you can dress it up and shout racism from the rooftops as much as you like, but in many of these cases black people are choosing poverty. There is no racism holding anybody back, everybody has the same freedom to become a doctor, or lawyer, or truck driver. However, what I will argue is that without correct nurturing, love and guidance, you might not even think to become a doctor. So not only is there financial poverty, but there is nurturing poverty. It is a choice not to nurture your child. It is choice to raise your child in the least advantageous way possible.
Is society really holding people back or is it more likely that people tend to be holding themselves back or maybe some just do not have the ability or even the drive to achieve. State by state, there is a pattern and they are either choosing it or else it is being forced on them. Take your pick.
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...2:%22asc%22%7D
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@Miles, answer Denilson's pertinent question? How does it affect you? Why do you care so much about "degenerate" black mums and dads?
There are zero black people in South Korea? (ignoring the privileged blacks)
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Black people are poor because they generally choose to be poor.
You make it trendy to make bad decisions then poor is where you will be and more likely than not patterns repeat.
OK. So according to you black people like or choose to be poor.
OK. Your words not mine.
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You cannot be anything but poor if you have no Dad and a Mother who does not work or works but struggles. Been there and got the TShirt.
However, with self responsibility and good decisions one need not be poor and can have a good future. I know black people with Phd's working as Professors including women, but they didn't get there without self responsibility.
OK. So let's look at probably the most famous living black man on the planet
Barack Obama. Right ?
Say what you want about his policies and his presidency the fact is ?
There was not 1% of personal scandal him at all.
He had no kids out of wedlock. He didn't sag his pants. He did smoke blunts.
Yet did the white supremacists say "Hey !! Wait a minute !! This Barack Obama has no kids out of wedlock. He's a good father to his kids. He not committing any crime. I think we should lay off him"
No. He got the n*gger treatment just like any other black person.
They used to lynch black people in suits. In fact most of the black people lynched and hung were black business owners. They were acting a little bit uppity and didn't know their place
In fact let's go deeper.
Rosewood in the early part of the last century ?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ON...4=w597-h447-no
A thriving black community living independent of whites was burned to the ground by white supremacists.
Not 2 mention Bruce’s Beach, Black Wall Street, Bronzeville in Chicago and Black Baltimore during the days of sailing ships all show a pattern of White officials making extraordinary efforts to cut black business development off at the knees.
Black degradation is essential 2 White supremacists.
Thriving Black business districts and countries and strong Black communities would expose the lie at the heart of White Supremacy ideology.
The Tulsa Riot in the early part of the last century.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Xr...g=w505-h188-no
Same again. Thriving black community. Blew up by white ppl with the aid of the US government.
Growth of ones own country can't happen in isolation. It has to be within an agreed shared global structure which includes everyone. While the ideology and controlling structure of white supremacy remains firmly in place, restrictions will ultimately always apply to black nations.
Its no different to slaves growing their own independent business on the plantation. Sooner or later if its successful the master will want a cut of any of the profits or control of it. Eventually either dominating it completely, eliminating it to avoid unfavorable competition or even having it challenge the plantation slave institution itself.
One only has to look at the likes of Colonel Gaddifi who was trying to create a central african bank and an african communication network in Africa. Africa is a massive source for mobile phone networks and internet. Africans make billions for the white supremacists. Gaddifi plan went against there wishes just as would have an African bank. So he had to be killed
Patrice Lumumba, one of the greatest black leaders to emerge in this century, was assinated by the Belgians with the aid of US, so that the white international community could get the puppet government that they wanted in the Congo.
What you are clumsily trying to do is shift the blame of racism on to black people.
I get it
You're trying to move argument is moved from what white supremacists do to what you think black ppl do. It's just a cheap attempt to change the subject, to draw attention away from what white supremacists do. But at a deeper level it is also a moral argument – directed not at black ppl but at yourself.
Whites knows they live in an unequal society where whites benefit and blacks get screwed.
You have a choice.
You either
1) Fight against that inequality
2) Make up excuses.
Making up excuses is way easier.
So that's were your "out of wedlock kids" etc arguments come from because if you can blame blacks, then you have no reason to feel guilty at all. You can still see yourself as a good person. Case closed!
So in the end we know all about what is wrong with blacks, because that makes white people feel better about themselves, but very little is said about what is wrong with white people and the white racism built into society.
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I guess it boils down to me hating to see children wayward, lost, abandoned, stifled and harmed. It is not absolute of course and there are many exceptions but the facts are what they are and I simply think people should either take parenting seriously or don't do it at all. If we cannot even accept that single mother rates are a leading cause of poverty in the community then there can be no progress. I want better for kids and it starts with responsible parenting. If you are a bit mad like me then don't do it!
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I will reply to that later Denilson. However, I see from the off you have misreprented what I said.
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Gandalf you said
"Black people are poor because they generally choose to be poor"
It is an indefensible statement. It is just another example of the normalisation of racism. It is yet another example of your wheeling out a bigoted trope born of ignorance. That ignorance is born out of your own personality. You are not alone, fundamental attribution erroris very common.
It is a perfectly defensible statement and I qualified it by citing my own experiences as an example of it as the black community tends to put its families through the same needless grind as that which I went through too. Am I black? It was a choice by those parents to be poor growing up. If you have children, few resources, few skills, and then abandon your kids, then poverty is the inevitable result. It is not an absolute, but a general argument that is supported by the data. There are no rules in society telling the majority of black families to have no family structure. Like Obama argued "children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; nine times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison."
It is a choice to put children through this. It is a choice to get pregnant to men who will not stand by you. It is a choice to not give all your children the advantages that other children with two loving parents will have. Now you can dress it up and shout racism from the rooftops as much as you like, but in many of these cases black people are choosing poverty. There is no racism holding anybody back, everybody has the same freedom to become a doctor, or lawyer, or truck driver. However, what I will argue is that without correct nurturing, love and guidance, you might not even think to become a doctor. So not only is there financial poverty, but there is nurturing poverty. It is a choice not to nurture your child. It is choice to raise your child in the least advantageous way possible.
Is society really holding people back or is it more likely that people tend to be holding themselves back or maybe some just do not have the ability or even the drive to achieve. State by state, there is a pattern and they are either choosing it or else it is being forced on them. Take your pick.
https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...2:%22asc%22%7D
I'm sorry Miles, but I'm going to have to weigh in and say it was a poor choice of words. I agree with your assertions regarding the vast number of children being raised without a father figure, and how that has adversely affected society. If taken to numbers and statistics, it may very well be that black women in heavily urban areas in the States make up a large percentage. Facts are facts and numbers are numbers.
But rather than throw blanket statements, which admit it, you are prone to doing, you should (IMO) work at wording your thoughts in a way that is not offensive to large groups of people or perceived as being racist.
Nobody really "chooses" to be poor. People make poor choices in life, and then must accept the consequences which include yes..... being poor.
Notice that someone like Denilson "chooses" to engage more with you than with someone like me. Why? Because he finds it's difficult to include me in the ultra-convenient White Supremacist pigeonhole he reserves for everyone.
Once he's got nowhere to go with me, he gets bored and moves on to other targets he truly deems racist and White Supremacist-like.
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I will answer that too, but I am not interested in not being offensive. At times I want to be offensive and set out to be so. In saying that I think many people do indeed choose to be poor. Otherwise, why not upgrade skills, or do more than pump out babies with no Daddies, or live consumer lives, or all day in the bookies? It's mostly a choice. But will answer in full tomorrow.
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If you are going to get knocked up by a man that is not going to stick around which is the majority of black women in the US, then undeniably you are choosing a path of not only financial poverty, but poverty of the soul for the child. You can make excuses for that or chant 'racist' as much as you like, but it does not make a blind bit of difference to the statistical evidence. Even Obama would back me up on this. Is he a racist too? Just asking. Am I a racist against myself for suggesting the same is done to white people as well, but in less substantial numbers? The facts are the facts. The evidence is very clear.
Once again.
How does black out wedlock kids affect white people ? And if your so deeply concerned about kids being born out of wedlock. Why don't you focus the same energy with white kids ?
Most drug users are white. Most of the drugs are in suburban areas. Meth and heroin are drugs that black people rarely use or sell today. 85% of the users and sellers are white.Yet more black people r in jaill. Waco has been a hotbed for crystal meth use. So what do the white supremacists do ? Change possession of meth from felony to misdemeanor.
All over the USA white people are drugged out on meth like this.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/u-...o=w634-h702-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xZ...Y=w970-h430-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bF...=w1024-h576-no
These white folks got K&A looking like skid row. They have programs giving them clean needles and a program to pick up the needles those trifling cave beasts discard on the ground. Plus they beg 24/7 with their dusty ass signs in the street and subway. You see when it’s a white problem it isn’t a problem. They don’t want the little white Timmys of the world to hit that cell
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...4=w572-h392-no
But of course they have a system to go easy on them like Clinton in this opiod crisis. They have Methodone Clinics to help them manage their addiction
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Kn...8=w589-h548-no
Wonder if he's ever spoken on the CIA's trade of Cocaine 4 Weapons in Nicaragua '90's ? Or Nixon's overt racist drug war that he co-opted ?
They go so soft on white drug users that Miami police say they’ll offer opioid addicts rehab instead of arresting them
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qJ...A=w572-h392-no
And you wanna talk shit black ppl ?
Look at the story of the dead opiod addict last year (Maddie Linsenmeir). You would think she was getting to be buried in Arlington with all this press around her death.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/C1...g=w504-h366-no
They’re making martyrs out of white junkies when we steady getting killed.
Drugs don't sick with black folk. Heroin ended in the 60s. Coke the 70s. Crack the 80s. The only thing left is weed. But when Black folks put that down watch "them" make Newport illegal to smoke.
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Notice that someone like Denilson "chooses" to engage more with you than with someone like me. Why? Because he finds it's difficult to include me in the ultra-convenient White Supremacist pigeonhole he reserves for everyone.
Nope. I've engaged with you many times. It's just for one this a boxing forum and that was my intent to talk boxing and two. I reply to the first ppl who come up in my notifications.
What ? You I'm think I'm scared to engage you ? lol
Get over yourself.
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Notice that someone like Denilson "chooses" to engage more with you than with someone like me. Why? Because he finds it's difficult to include me in the ultra-convenient White Supremacist pigeonhole he reserves for everyone.
Nope. I've engaged with you many times. It's just for one this a boxing forum and that was my intent to talk boxing and two. I reply to the first ppl who come up in my notifications.
What ? You I'm think I'm scared to engage you ? lol
Get over yourself.
I think it's easier for you to engage Miles who so willingly falls into your "White Supremacist" cubbyhole. You've yet to answer my last post to you and are now engaging with Miles, so naturally I figured you were reaching for the low-hanging fruit.
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I cannot sleep, but to answer your question, Denny. It clearly bothers me a lot that the white family is so broken up too. That's what I went through and it was rough. My mother chooses to be poor as she hasn't worked in decades. My father jumped ship. I know what losers are and they impact a young mind badly. Then when I see similar patterns in the white and black community then inevitably I get disturbed. They choose to do what they do. Nobody makes them do it. They didn't help their kids and they won't help themselves. There are bad people out there. A lot of them.
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Notice that someone like Denilson "chooses" to engage more with you than with someone like me. Why? Because he finds it's difficult to include me in the ultra-convenient White Supremacist pigeonhole he reserves for everyone
Nope. I've engaged with you many times. It's just for one this a boxing forum and that was my intent to talk boxing and two. I reply to the first ppl who come up in my notifications.
What ? You I'm think I'm scared to engage you ? lol
Get over yourself.
But let's look at one thing you said
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David Duke, Richard Spencer (not too familiar with him, TBH) and Aryan Nation groups aren't extreme anything. They're brain-dead morons, ridiculed and dismissed by a majority of white people.
A suspected white supremacist is in the white house. So it's not getting dismissed at all.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sC...s=w449-h415-no
When former KKK imperial Wizard David Duke embraced a president, that says something significant about Trump.
It's significant that white supremacists were excited about the president. It's significant because Trump did something to win all that approval.
When white supremacists in general are like “whoa, this Trump guy is our dream come true and doing things we never thought we’d see from a president,” that signifies something about Donald Trump.
Second David Duke ran for the U.S. Senate in Louisiana in the 90's and got 60% of the white vote and ran for presidency in 92. Yes he didn't get the gig. But that's not the point. He got that far. Duke's Klan affiliation had almost no impact on convincing white Louisianans to vote against him. It was only because enough blk people and other ppl of color turning out at the polls that defeated him.
Duke is true believer in Hitlerian Nazism. He loves Hitler. I've read his autobiography, “My Awakening” I know how these guys think.
David Duke does not simply want to “defend the rights and interests of white people” in the abstract (whatever the fk that might mean); Na. In an interview on tape with Joe Fields he wants rid all blks from the USA. So these aren't brain dead morons. They have in the police force, they're managers, doctors, teachers. They're everywhere.
Even the Stormfront (White supremacist central) website that was started in 1995 by Don Black. That was way b4 Facebook, Insta, Snapchat or Twitter and only a few years after google. He was still smart enough to realize the future power of the internet
See - White supremacist are smartest ppl on the planet. Why ? Because I'm subject to their system. You can't run this skin game on ppl for 500 years unless your smart.
Many people in Jail think they're smart but then some hillybilly white boy who barely got his GED turns around says "Boy. If your so smart, then why are you in there and I'm out here"
CHECK MATE
The smartest group of black people on the planet are this negrito tribe - The North Sentinel Islanders in the Indian Ocean.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/mg...=w1280-h720-no
Why ?
Because they have never been colonized by the white supremacist. They're are not dependent on the white supremacist and they will kill any outsiders who trespass and would rather die than be mistreated.
And they are the only group of black people on this planet who can say that. So that makes them by far in a way the smartest group of black people on earth.
They're what modern humans were like when they first emerged out of Africa. They have lived there for 60,000 years.
Commercial fishing is banned on the Andaman Islands.
So this is one of the very few places in the world where fish die of old age and get to live their entire life.
The Andaman Islands received the first sunrise of this millennium
Last year a missionary tried to go there and they killed him on sight
If an American Tourist wandered into any other foreign restricted military zone and was killed, no one would be having this conversation. North Sentinel Island's beaches are considered restricted military areas.
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You have to hand it to Denise when he reminds the white people how supirior we are to him.
Personally i think he is selling other black people short , but hey they can take it up with him.
He still is to discuss the great black explorers of the world with us, he can chose any he likes and educate us all.
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Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback
A suspected white supremacist is in the white house. So it's not getting dismissed at all.
Oh he's only "suspected" of that is he? that's curious coming from you. It's also curious considering you also posted
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Originally Posted by Denilson-The-Comeback
See - White supremacist are smartest ppl on the planet. Why ? Because I'm subject to their system. You can't run this skin game on ppl for 500 years unless your smart.
Many people in Jail think they're smart but then some hillybilly white boy who barely got his GED turns around says "Boy. If your so smart, then why are you in there and I'm out here"
CHECK MATE
So White Supremacists have a system that has been in place for 500 years and the President of the United States is only (by your very own admission) a "Suspected" White Supremacist :scratchchin:
Check mate indeed :shakehead:
As for David Duke :rolleyes: it seems to me that the only folks that give a shit about what that guy says are 1. Other racists and 2. People seeking to attach him to politicians they don't agree with in order to discredit/brand the politician in question as a racist. Other than that I can't tell you much about what others find so interesting about the guy.
I'm of the belief David Duke is a Government plant. He's probably (and I'd assume with a lot of others) a part of a government offshoot of the infamous COINTELPRO where the FBI infiltrated and surveilled different groups and basically tried to entrap them or murder them. Duke hasn't suffered much legal issues in the United States and if he was so important, such a true and honest bane to American politics then surely he would have either been assassinated (like Huey Long) or arrested (like Eugene V. Debs) ...right? It seems to me the man is being used by some group or some body in order to either puff up a boogeyman or start a racial conflict.
A funny thing that I have noticed is that despite all the bannings on social media David Duke still has a presence there, he's still on Twitter :scratchchin: GEE I WONDER WHY
And right now he's apparently testing the waters on supporting Tulsi Gabbard for the Democrat primaries....what a wonderful way to isolate & torpedo a presidential run so that someone who is either more radical or a crooked establishment player can gain more traction with Duke's "support" being like that of an anchor.
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I did wonder why Gandalf was getting behind Gabbard....David Duke you say, makes sense now :confused: ;D