Here we go again :rolleyes:
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Also, the other elephant in the room is the state of British people in the 21st century. The funding is there, but the majority of the population is overweight, the women drink as much as men, and you have people just not taking good care of themselves. These things lead to immune disorders, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, etc. All things that can be prevented or at least have a reduced risk of getting.
People in the UK don't seem to do enough scans either and so it is no wonder you end up with patients on chemo which costs a lot more than ripping out a piece of something directly and is unlikely to work. A single yearly check for everyone provided by a company who pays the NHS for it would help a lot of people.
Tom Watson has apparently sorted his health out reversing his diabetes, but that needs to be more common. If you want to help the health service you also have to help yourself. Self responsibility is important.
See, here they are blaming cuts, but as you can see, all the people are doing is exercising and probably being told to watch their diet more. It isn't rocket science. Do people really need the health service to.....lose weight? The woman of 37 looking like that is clearly in a world of her own and it doesn't help when there are more fat people than thin people around you as it normalizes it. They point out that in Rotherham half of the food options are basically fast food ones and that 2/3rd of the populace is overweight. Is it the Tories or even Labour making people eat like they do? No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUZ3YoqOUeo
Corbyn is the fault for English Obesite. Pasta Corbynara and Chicken Corbynbleu.
He stayed with the party that opened the borders, has no plan to close the borders, and is thus at a dead end with voters in that regard. He also flip flopped on Brexit and the referendum. Tied by an awful party of course, so why would you vote for an awful party. There is no reason why a party cannot be stronger on immigration AND have sensible economic policies. Free Internet for all is one of the most pointless nationalizations ever, so that isn't exactly helping. Can people not afford the Internet now? Just weird. Trains fine, but Labour is getting silly. People have enough with the minimum wage, so how about cutting VAT or something sensible? How about doing away with taxes that hurt the poor the most. I think there is something to be said for letting you keep what you earn and making your own decisions with your money. It is good to give ordinary people agency and choice and that way they can choose poverty or to make a few better decisions. It is the same with their weight and all of that. All choices, good or bad.
They could learn a lot from here when it came to electing a left wing leader who bought votes with candy offerings......the economy sank. And all that promise to increase wages resulted in many jobs being axed or mechanized. There is something called moderation and the trouble with politics is that people will say and do anything to get in without thinking through the long term consequences. The Tories too as more money for the NHS is like sinking money into a black hole. If there is not enough housing there is a good reason for it, but nobody wants to hear it.
Oh my goodness, it is far beyond what I ever realized. The Labour Manifesto is a disaster. It will sink the UK far more than a no deal Brexit ever could. Some terrible policies in there. It is basically a vote bribe and people should not fall for it. If you want to help poor people then half VAT immediately. There is no reason for 10 pounds an hour in the UK for doing the most menial of work going. The direct result will be unemployment while the borders remain open. Ghastly and cruel really. Reduce the voting age to 16? People who have never contributed or worked do not deserve a vote. It is almost comical.
Why should Corbyn leave a party that he has always been with and change it from within?
His policy of Brexit respects both sides and it is the Tories that have not implemented Brexit over 3 years. In fact it is there mess that started the whole thing in the first place.
Labour is aiming to help the poorest in society but you cannot even write that down because you are so hell bent and focused on immigration and single parents.
They already tried to do the pay increase bribe here and it has failed terribly. Youth unemployment went through the roof and small business owners simply mechanized or stopped hiring. It doesn't work. 10 pounds an hour is a lot of money for stacking shelves.
I argue that reducing harmful taxes like VAT on things like food is better for ordinary people. Let people keep what they earn rather than take away their jobs which is what the result will be with 10 pounds an hour. It is not only bad, but with open borders, quite reckless. What is the minimum wage in Poland and are there not about 3 quarters of a million Poles in the UK. That is what British people could be having.
Many of the foods poor people eat are VAT charged and it is a tax that mostly hits the poor as they end up spending proportionally more of their income on it through that and other regular items. The fat woman probably spent a lot of tax looking kike that.
Government is a free for all with taxes and Labour wants more. I would abolish VAT on everything. Minimize government and have people command their own resources. If they want to eat takeaway then fine, but also not have a free at the point of use health care system.
Basically the UK is in a hole now as they cannot reverse decades of poor policies. Demographics and culture is changing and Fats is right that as time passes what is English will diminish. And then what? That is the big question. People should not be afraid to ask it. It will happen in a couple of decades.
@Master is right that Labour is aiming to help the poorest of the Societe, so I do agreeing with 10 pounds per hour. Gandalf stacking shelves is very hard physical work and I don't know how many of us could do it 8 hours a day 5 days a week. just because it is unskilled labor does not mean those people should not be paid a living wage. However Gandalf then makes a great point that you will now get more illegals coming in especially with the open borders of Jeremy corbyn they would be coming in to take those 10 pounds per hour jobs because that is a pretty good pay for unskilled labor indeed. So it is a catch-22. Illegals will come in and except 9 and 1/2 pounds per hour and then the 10 per hour minimum will no longer be helping the British
and typical and current opening:
Location
Fulham Wharf Store, London
Hours
Part-time
Contract Type
Permanent
Rate
£10.55 per hour
@Gandalf SO YOU THINK THIS IS A FAIR WAGE TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF LONDON?
Areas of business
Driver - Home Delivery
Job ID
190017VJ
Sainsbury's Supermarkets Ltd, 27 Townmead Road
Fulham, London, SW6 2SY
London is an abnormality and Sainsbury's is not the kind of small business that hires a couple of students part time who will need to eradicate those jobs due to margin squeezing. It was an experiment that was tried here and failed badly....without open borders.
Also supermarket work is easy. I used to work in a fruit and veg shop every morning before school. All you are doing is putting things on display and weighing downstairs aa you put into bundles. It requires some physicality, but no thought.
Brexit Party: Abolish VAT on fuel bills (a start, Nigel), plant trees (as England has limited number of trees), immigration cap of 50,000, clean break from EU. No interest on student loans. No corporation tax for those earning less than 10,000 a year. All common sense. Some good ideas, a bit moderate, but certainly rational. And no more BBC license. Certainly no bribes and a reward for those willing to work on their own initiative.
Boris does not turn up to a leaders debate on Channel 4 specifically on climate change, instead says a colleague that stabbed him in the back and his dad who were both turned away, and now they have complained and are threatening the channel of their existence when their licence is up for renewal.
Proper spoilt cunts.
Johnson and his lies. Remind you of anyone? This is truly a post-truth election
- “We’re upgrading 20 hospitals and building 40 new ones. And you are going to say, oh, well, it’s only six. Actually, that’s not true.”
Boris Johnson interview, The Andrew Marr Show- 1 December 2019“One of the reasons we’re having this election is because we have a Queen’s speech that was blocked by parliament”
Boris Johnson interview, The Andrew Marr Show- 1 December 2019“Jeremy Corbyn wants to scrap MI5”
Boris Johnson interview, The Andrew Marr Show- 1 December 2019“There will be no tariffs and no checks.”
Boris Johnson interview, Andrew Marr Show- 29 November 2019“40 new hospitals will be built as a result of decisions we’re taking”
Boris Johnson interview, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTmpzuwgnDA- 29 November 2019“The NHS, as you know, it’s the biggest increase in living memory, a £34bn increase”
Boris Johnson interview, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTmpzuwgnDA- 28 November 2019“Absolutely not. I’ve never tried to deceive the public and I’ve always tried to be absolutely frank”
Boris Johnson to ITV News- 27 November 2019“The prime minister has been very clear, you know. We’re not going to have anything. We’re going to make sure that there’s unfettered access into the UK market”
Julian Smith, Conservative Northern Ireland manifesto launch- 26 November 2019Nicola Sturgeon “confirmed last night to Andrew Neil” that SNP policy was “to rejoin the EU, to join the Euro.”
Boris Johnson, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DooZ1mPK-G8- 26 November 2019“No-one has ever credibly suggested that (Islamophobia is) an issue with the leadership of the party, whether that's the leader of the party of the day or the chancellor or other senior figures”
Sajid Javid, campaign event in Bolton- 24 November 2019“We will be investing, as I say, the biggest ever cash boost to the NHS”
Boris Johnson, Conservative Party manifesto launch- 21 November 2019“Labour’s Jess Phillips undermines Corbyn’s manifesto by admitting they can’t or won’t deliver on their promises”
Conservative Party Twitter account- 21 November 2019“No-one gives a toss about the social media cut and thrust”
Dominic Raab, BBC Breakfast- 20 November 2019“If we’re lucky enough to be elected, so the first budget we will go up to the £9,500 threshold and that will, as I say, put £500 into the pockets of everyone”
Boris Johnson, campaign stop in North Yorkshire- 20 November 2019“There is absolutely no evidence that I’ve ever seen of any Russian interference in UK democratic processes”
Boris Johnson, campaign stop in Teeside- 19 November 2019“We’re putting record sums in [to the NHS] — £34bn”
Boris Johnson, Leadership debate, ITV- 19 November 2019“We’re not just upgrading 20 hospitals but we are building 40 new hospitals”
Boris Johnson, Leadership debate, ITV- 19 November 2019“Not at all. Northern Ireland is part of the customs territory of the UK”
Boris Johnson, Leadership debate, ITV- 19 November 2019Jeremy Corbyn “would whack corporation tax up to the highest in Europe”
Boris Johnson, Leadership debate, ITV- 19 November 2019“I think it does”
Boris Johnson, Leadership debate, ITV- 19 November 2019“factcheckUK”
Conservative Party press office, Twitter account- 19 November 2019The UK’s corporation tax is “already the lowest in Europe”
Boris Johnson, Leadership debate, ITV
Even more lies from Johnson
- 18 November 2019“Jeremy Corbyn would whack up corporation tax to the highest levels in Europe”
Boris Johnson, speech to the Confederation of British Business conference 2019- 16 November 2019“Inside the EU we’re trapped in the Common Agricultural Policy. It’s one of the big benefits of leaving the EU, and it will allow us to meet these tree-planting targets which will ensure that we deal with the climate crisis that we face”
Michael Gove, Today programme- 15 November 2019Jeremy Corbyn “thinks home ownership is a bad idea and is opposed to it”
Boris Johnson in a speech in Oldham, live on Sky News- 15 November 2019“20,000 more police are operating on our streets to fight crime and bring crime down”
Boris Johnson in a speech in Oldham, live on Sky News- 15 November 2019Jeremy Corbyn “plans to wreck the economy with a £1.2 trillion spending plan”
Boris Johnson in a speech in Oldham, live on Sky News- 15 November 2019Labour “want to have two referendums next year, one in Scotland”
Boris Johnson speech in Oldham, live on Sky News- 15 November 2019“We are getting on with a fantastic programme … 20 hospital upgrades, 40 new hospitals”
Boris Johnson in a speech in Oldham, live on Sky News- 15 November 2019“Jeremy Corbyn … wouldn’t even stick up for this country when it came to the poisonings in Salisbury and actually seemed to side in that instance with Russia”
Boris Johnson in a speech in Oldham, live on Sky News- 14 November 2019“Corbyn and his lot ... actually think that the armed services should be disbanded — that’s what he said”
Boris Johnson in a speech to supporters in Oldham- 14 November 2019“Under Jeremy Corbyn’s plan for unlimited and uncontrolled immigration, (net migration) could increase to over 840,000 people — more than the population of Liverpool — coming to the UK every year”
Conservative Research Department report- 12 November 2019“Boris Johnson warns voters that Britain faces ‘political onanism’ of Brexit under Jeremy Corbyn”
The Sun- 10 November 2019“The true ‘Cost of Corbyn’ is a staggering £1.2 trillion”
Sajid Javid, public statement- 8 November 2019“I've had to give [drinking] up until we get Brexit done”
Boris Johnson, visit to hospital in Nottinghamshire- 7 November 2019“If somebody asks you to [fill in a form], tell them to ring up the prime minister, and I will direct them to throw that form in the bin”
Boris Johnson, to manufacturers in Northern Ireland- 6 November 2019Jeremy Corbyn “sided with Putin” over the Salisbury novichok attack
Boris Johnson at a Downing Street speech- 6 November 2019“Our MPs are just refusing time and again to deliver Brexit”
Boris Johnson, speech launching Conservative Party election campaign, Downing Street- 6 November 2019“If we can get this deal over the line . . . then we can release that pent-up flood of investment. Hundreds of billions are waiting to pour into the UK”
Boris Johnson, speech launching Conservative Party election campaign, Downing Street- 6 November 2019“We can leave the EU as one UK, whole and entire and perfect as promised”
Boris Johnson, speech launching Conservative Party election campaign, Downing Street- 6 November 2019“We have got a deal, oven-ready, by which we can leave the EU in a few weeks. It’s a great deal for this country. It delivers everything that I wanted when I campaigned for Brexit”
Boris Johnson, speech launching Conservative Party election campaign, Downing Street- 6 November 2019“They [the Labour Party] point their fingers at individuals with a relish and a vindictiveness not seen since Stalin persecuted the kulaks”
Boris Johnson, launching Conservative Party election campaign in The Daily Telegraph- 5 November 2019“Jeremy Corbyn’s Brexit minister can’t or won’t answer a simple question about Labour’s position on Brexit”
Conservative Party Twitter account- 3 November 2019“Work and Pensions Secretary Therese Coffey reveals more than 10 million people can look forward to an income boost, as working-age benefits will rise by the rate of inflation in April”
Department for Work and Pensions,- 3 November 2019“Parliament refused finally to give approval for us to come out on October 31 which was a great disappointment”
Boris Johnson, Ridge on Sunday- 30 October 2019“I might ask the honourable Lady how she can justify this country spending another £1 billion per month on delaying our exit from the European Union”
Boris Johnson, Prime Minister’s Questions- 28 October 2019“They made it inevitable that the people of this country would be retained in the EU against their will for at least another three months, at a cost of another £1 billion a month”
Boris Johnson, to the House of Commons- 23 October 2019“They said that we would never get it through parliament, and they did their utmost to stop it going through parliament, but we got it through parliament last night”
Boris Johnson, Prime Minister's Questions- 22 October 2019“A vote against the programme motion is a vote against Brexit”
Jacob Rees-Mogg,- 22 October 2019“There will be no checks between Great Britain and Northern Ireland”
Boris Johnson, speaking in Parliament- 20 October 2019Sir Oliver Letwin was telephoning Lord Pannick about his Brexit amendment while visiting the prime minister
“Senior Tories”- 19 October 2019The Prime Minister’s letter to the EU asking for an extension is a “photocopy”
its called misapplying a super-realist observation in order to deceive or drive a narrative, Beanz. Yeah, its like you stood next to a person at a wedding reception, hell, maybe even clinked fucking glasses during a group toast, BUT SOME HIPPY WANKER PHOTOGRAPHER SNAPS A PHOTO RIGHT AT THAT MOMENT AND SAYS: " Look! Beanz was clinking glasses with that criminal at the wedding. Therefore, he must KNOW him!!!!"
Fuck you. I was asking Master a legitimate question. You stop name calling and stop your vile hateful comments to me and SO MANY OTHERS and I'll stop @Beanz mentioning you.
I have to support beanz on this one. He screams and cries if we label British society or culture in any certain way but he can label the us “litigous in culture” even when a proven French accountant teacher asks a simple question to a mod. I think it was a horrible insensitive question and I understand beanz reacting in such a rageful manner. #stopsimplequestionsnow
It has nothing to do with being tough. Put simply you are, and have always been, a compulsive lying wanker. You can't control yourself. The entire forum is full of your shite already. The UK Election has fuck all to do with you, and yet you can't just sit back and listen, it has to become a soapbox for your own teenage drivel. You are a fat American 'never been' calling the current Heavyweight champion of the world 'mediocre' :-\ and pretending to be in France, when we all know you are in South Korea. You have always been a jerk and continue to be one.
Now now it's getting out of hand they knock Diane Abbott for her maths it seems a few of the Tories can count so much for a private education.😁
Borris lies and bull shit Corbyn should I stay or should I go now! and SNP one half of the fucking krankys .
How much faith have you in any of theses brain dead idiots.
Corbyn is the most smeared Politician in history. Cameron put his mates in control at the BBC and the coup was complete. The mainstream press and TV are all in on it and so it never stops. It is mind blowing stuff. The Tories have even started buying up domain names and then filling them with complete and utter bullshit so that when you try and google Labour Manifesto etc or Fact Check UK you get the tories own 1984 Big Brother shit. Under Cummings and Johnson the nasty fuck they have learned from Trump that if you just keep throwing lies and bullshit up there, people will believe it.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/op...history/18/07/
Hang on a minute! So is @Fatboxingfan Brock? 🤔🤭 well I never.
But if you type in Labour manifesto you pretty much get Labour's rather expensive manifesto popping up right there on Labour's own page. Nothing is being 1984 style hidden away.
Funnily enough Labour seem to agree with me that the UK does not have many trees which you vehemently disagreed with me on. Why the need for all these trees when England is so covered in forests?
@Primo Carnera are you, two, being influencement by those gutter poster? Don't get influence he never told you about that on December 12th - one of 650 constituencies will be chosen by 46 million voters. Sacre Bleu, 59% of 20- to 24-year-olds voted 2 years ago which is absolute garbage, compared with 77% of 60- to 69-year-olds.
I go for Plaid Cymru.
I am going to pay a £500 deposit, which will be lost if I do not get at least 5% of the votes in my constituency, and as much as that certain person I am referencing thinks I cannot do it I assure you I must meet (AND I DO INDEED MEET) certain conditions, as I don't fall into the categories of prisoners, civil servants, judges and members of the police and armed forces --- who cannot stand, another thing unbeknownst to him.
Between 07:00 and 22:00 I will be receiving my votes. I say with pride and great happiness that I am one of the 91 Davids standing for election.
Let him eat cake.
Labour have a lunatic manifesto too. I have read through it and think it has some deranged stuff in there that will cost a lot just as the world teeters on a new financial crisis. Do you not observe the Fed with new QE and governments begging central banks to keep interest rates lower? Labour cannot afford it.
It will splatter horribly and then you really will see some cuts. I don't want to see it. Be cautious, be moderate and just listen to the 70% when they want less immigration and a Labour Party to represent them rather than consider them racist and out of touch.
Labour smeared itself with this darn manifesto. It is them in their own bubble. They have not listened and have lost their core vote. They might have London but when the North is voting Tory and Scotland abandoned you completely you know the gig is up. Those Northerners are NOT Tories! That is the scary thing about it all. They just want to be represented and are lashing out.