Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ

Gandalf I compared you to Alpha because you both pretend idealogical political fiction like The Bell Curve and The Flat Earth are actual science. They are not, and bigoted nonsense like calling me defective or pretending people are being spanked is nothing but deflection from the fact that you both have no argument to make.

You also are now suggesting that I am simultaneously insisting everyone is the exactly the same and yet uniquely different. The is the whole 'snowflake' 'leftist' non argument. I treat people as individuals but you both insist that people be reduced and described with the kind of language that sheilds you from complexity. It is why such an homogenised conservative environment appeals to you.

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Gandalf I compared you to Alpha because you both pretend idealogical political fiction like The Bell Curve and The Flat Earth are actual science. They are not, and bigoted nonsense like calling me defective or pretending people are being spanked is nothing but deflection from the fact that you both have no argument to make.

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Natural science proves the globe to be an absurdity. You have still no understanding of what science is.

Provide your practical demonstrations/ experiments or I'll continue to spank you.

All you do is waffle.

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Too long, meandering and waffly, Dennis. If you do not think race exists, then why on earth do you spam the forum with that and only that year after year? It is clearly something very dear to your heart.

Black people being the best sprinters is now also white supremacy? You need a job in Hollywood.

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OK. Gandalf. I'm out because it's starting to turn into a "last man talking contest"

Wannabe debaters like you, are like amateur gunslingers.

All you do is just point aimlessly, shoot then hope for the best.

But whenever you come trying to shoot that sh!t at me I always go for the heavy SMITH & WESSON XVR 460 MAGNUM. because in a full-on blast the guy (or girl) with the bigger gun is more likely to leave a smoking bullet-ridden avatar on the ground.

And besides, at that point I know the convo is over, so might as well have some fun

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We go through this song and dance every so often. Denilson disappears... then he comes back. Then he disappears again. The rest of us have taken our respective turns trying to talk some sense into the guy... but to no avail. Denilson knows his opponents, too. The ones he considers "just beneath the surface racists", he uses certain tactics. When he encounters someone who digs at the core of his mistaken beliefs, he uses other tactics. Rinse and repeat.

The problem begins and ends with the steadfast belief that Denilson feels ALL WHITES ARE RACISTS. He's said this a million times. Therefore, every argument that develops, does so with that backdrop. The opponent not only has two strikes in Denilson's mind. He's already struck out and is headed back to the dugout. Part of Denilson's strategy when arguing is to claim he knows what is in EVERY WHITE PERSON'S MIND. There's no backup... no personal knowledge... no scientific proof... not a sliver of logic to sustain that. It's "true" because Denilson himself declares it.

The ironic part about this is that these steadfast beliefs make Denilson himself a racist. Probably the worst kind of racist. The worst kind of racist is the kind that holds on to his preconceived beliefs no matter who he meets.... who he talks to.... who he befriends.... no matter WHAT. It's engraved in concrete in Denilson's mind..... and you're gonna have to wrench it from his cold dead hands.

I've gone down the path of trying to converse with Denilson before. I don't know whether anyone would have better luck in person. Cyber conversations leave a lot to be desired. It's a shame, too. Denilson's obviously not a stupid fellow. He digs up a lot of information and uses it (albeit in a twisted logic sort of way) to make his points.

Most on here just stay away, not wishing to engage Denilson in what they consider to be a lost cause. There's nothing to be gained, because Denilson has been waging this campaign for years now. In fact, the reason he pops in and out of the forum is that he surfs various sites.... probably spewing the same anti-white B.S., including the same wording, phrases, pictures, links, etc.

Denilson, if you ever truly wished to sit down and discuss your racist beliefs one-on-one with someone who truly wasn't racist (except to you, of course), you might be surprised at what you might find. In fact, I suspect there will come some point in your life when you'll slap your forehead and realize what a close-minded racist you have been all these years. And consequently, how many doors you have closed yourself, instead blaming others for the closing of those doors.

You've never traveled to MANY PLACES AROUND THE WORLD..... yet you profess to know about racism in those places. That in and of itself is a telling aspect to your close-mindedness.

None of this is meant to insult you. It's just some random thoughts I'm sure some of us have on here. In fact, I have nothing but the best of wishes that someday you'll wake up and see things for what they are.

I've always believed that racism is a HUGE AND REAL PROBLEM not only in the States, but around the world. And it's not only against blacks. I also believe that under Trump's administration, ignorant racist people have become more emboldened to spew their racist shit and hate. I'm sure I'll get some flak from Trump fans on that one, but it's true. Regardless of what anyone might think of Trump as President, what I just said is the truth, whether people want to admit it or not. So we're living in sad times with regards to people getting along. I've seen racism up close and personal and I've personally done concrete actions to voice my disgust and displeasure. In a personal context, few things repulse me more than racism. It's ignorant, and it's nauseating.

But you're a racist yourself, Denilson. You may not want anyone's advice. But mine to you is to open your mind and see people as individuals. You'll be glad you did.

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I'll just put this here again.

Predictably ignored by Denilson, because he'd rather go after the low-hanging fruit which he obviously considers Miles to be. Not saying you're racist, Miles..... but you do harbor some views that Denilson feels he can pounce on with glee, rather than look at his own ugly reflection in the mirror. The repetitive arguments on here run like clockwork.

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The reason I don't reply to you is because you like to do that white supremacist thing of playing both sides.

A white supremacist will sit on a jury. Find a cop not-guilty for killing a blk person. Leave court. Put on a black lives matter t-shirt. Go out in the streets with other blk people and protests against police brutality

On the one hand you'll say some real sh*t.

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I agree 100%.

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The rest of us have taken our respective turns trying to talk some sense into the guy... but to no avail

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telling aspect to your close-mindedness.

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I pay little mind to him, as I've confronted him before with GROWN-UP logic,

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he goes on his hiatus to go pollute other sites. As I've said before, if it's all real..... he's got some real problems.

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With me that's where you show you teeth and get emotional.

I don't get personal. That's the difference. I keep it (or try to keep it) to what they say.

But when speak with @Gandalf, a man who believes in the intellectually inferiority of black people you say

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A real “white ally” wouldn’t spend their time trying to convince black people they can be trusted. Instead they would challenge their own.

But as I say white supremacists like to play both sides of the fence when it comes to systematic white supremacy.

There was a white Brit called Jake Hanarahan. He wanted a pat on the bk because he said he exposed white supremacist group Atom Waffen but then found he was tied to Baked Alsaka and other white supremacists

There was a white girl called Lacy Green. She did a big video about how bad racism is and was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_hx30zOi9I

Come to be revealed that she's dating a white supremacist group member in the Alt Right

There was a white women called Julie Ioffee. She front like she's some super liberal talking about how racist trump is

But then she was found out to be taken selfies all loved up with Richard /Spencer

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqkZysRX4AAwQk4.jpg

White supremacist play both sides

You've said a million times on here that ALL whites are white supremacists. ALL, as in 100%, TODOS, TUTTO.

Does that NOT make you a racist? Please explain, as I'm dying to hear this one.

You see.... in my opinion, any person who throws a huge blanket over an entire race and says "All black people this....." or "All white people that....." is a RACIST. What other explanation is there?

Insult you? I called you a racist and close-minded. Those are pretty much facts. Prove me wrong. You can't..... can you.

Then you go on this other tack, saying white supremacists "play both sides."

Man... you've got it all covered, don't you. :rolleyes:



You obviously have issues.

You deny other people's life experiences, and concentrate on your own 30-some years of (cough) "expertise."

Oh yeah..... and I called you out on talking about places you've never been.

Any constructive, real response to that? Or is it just lumped into the "insults" category?

But the offer still stands. If you ever really, truly want to discuss race and racism with an adult....... feel free to reach out to me.

Treat everyone as an individual Dennis. I have never said that all black are stupid or that anyone is 'inferior'. You just do not compute that element. You do as Tito says suggest that all white people are white supremacists. That is ludicrous thinking. My view is that the left is genuinely racist, me not so much. I think people have agency, or at least they should.

If you want to believe that race does not exist then that is wonderful! It means less obsessive posting about race from you as it is not a thing. Fine with me.

My view on this is mostly from wanting good things for black kids and that comes from role models, having aspiration, and sure not everyone will be top of the class, but they can realize their potential and be the best they can be. In a class of 30 only 1 can be top and in some it will be a black kid. That is my view on IQ.

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You see.... in my opinion, any person who throws a huge blanket over an entire race and says "All black people this....." or "All white people that....." is a RACIST. What other explanation ?

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"For instance, a black person is significantly more likely than me to catch AIDS"

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You say nothing but racism grows and feeds off a culture of silence. You get real silent when it comes to checking the racism in your own community.

But all of sudden you want to pip up and get in my face and get more angry at blk ppl for calling out racism, than you do for whites practicing it.

And @Gandalf I know your reading this.

You have some nerve coming at black ppl with this AIDS stuff.

White people generally try not to show groups of white people doing anything bad on a consistent basis

So when AIDS first came out it was a white thing (Rock Hudson, Liberace, Freddie Mercury, the porn star John Holmes and the Olympic Diver Greg Louganis)

That was a bad look for white society.

So the white media made black people the face of AIDS. Then you had Eazy E getting it which was strange because his wife or girlfriends never got it.

I always look at the white supremacist.

https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a4&oe=5EA62ABE

And now aids starts and ends with Magic Johnson.

Bcoz even when they find white person who is HIV positive. Like Charlie Sheen they make sure to show him in a glowing light. Despite him being accused of abusing women, raping kids and exposing women to his HIV

Nevertheless

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After all he's done to abuse women he is afforded this Playboy sexualized imagery.

But of course people end up dying when white celebs do B.S and some1 calls them out on it

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Mot to mention you have a massive AIDS problem in the white community.

https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net...c2&oe=5EA584D0

In places like Poland, Russia in fact all over Europe it's rife.

And let's broaden this out just how much sexual depravity and I bear in mind ....I had to tone this down because I could not even post a lot of this stuff

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These cases were white police officers (Terry Yetman & Andrew Sustaita) were arrested for raping little dogs. His supervisors didn't want fire them because they felt "they were good with dogs"

And of course both cops were also in possession of hundreds of images of child porn.

Beastiality requires some neurological assessment.However it is legal if it occured in Canada under fairly new supreme Court ruling. (2015)

Demonic spirits within people who have to satisfy their flesh; it is written. The prophetic inspired scriptures of all 66 books of God and Lord Jesus Christ continue to unfold right b4 all mankind in this earth as the Holy Spirit EXPOSING darkness everywhere and what's in secret.

After all what's with this thing for whites and dogs ?

• Is it because Dogs and whites have really narrow noses ?
• Is it because Dogs and whites are comfortable in colder temperatures ?
• Is it because many dogs and all whites have stringy hair that clumps up when it gets dirty ?
• Is it because dogs and whites are both fearful of anything different from themselves ?
• Is it because many dogs and whites have high-pitched voices ?
• Is it because Whites and dogs seem to both be natural swimmers ?

Why all these vampire movies have come over the past 10 years ? Along with werewolf movies ? What is a werewolf? It’s part human and part wolf. A wolf is just a non-domesticated dog in the wild. Canines means dogs and whites used to live in Canaan which is now Israel and part of Lebanon. Maybe that’s why Israel wants all of that land for itself.

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We don't have the 100's beasitlity web sites, castration sites, global child sex rings that you have in the white community.

You better fix your mouth and recognize who the real sexual freaks are

Even Elvis himself was a sick freak

https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net...3e&oe=5EA1603C

He spent much of his adult life pursuing sexual encounters with 12, 13, 14 year old girls (who he called "cherries"). The book "Baby Lets Play House" goes into meticulous details about harems of 14 year old girls Elvis would have in his bedroom

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You see.... in my opinion, any person who throws a huge blanket over an entire race and says "All black people this....." or "All white people that....." is a RACIST. What other explanation ?

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You say nothing but racism grows and feeds off a culture of silence. You get real silent when it comes to checking the racism in your own community.

But all of sudden you want to pip up and get in my face and get more angry at blk ppl for calling out racism, than you do for whites practicing it.

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I'll only respond to this, since the rest was again directed at Gandalf.

So... Gandalf is Gandalf... and I'm me. But in your mind we're one and the same, since you paint all white people with the same broad brush.

What Gandalf says is what Gandalf says. You're free to agree or disagree with it. I've disagreed with plenty of what Gandalf has to say.... but don't let that interrupt your focused agenda.

Now. For the other two sentences.........



The fuck do you know about what I'm silent (or not) about, or what I get angry (or not) about.

Again, you do not know anyone here personally. You can only go by what they say or fail to say. I've been here (forum) about 15 years. So yes..... I've gotten to "know" many of the personalities on here.

I can pretty much surmise who might have racist thoughts and beliefs, and who doesn't. Maybe if I met them in person, I'd have to make some adjustments, because there's no substitute for face-to-face interaction.



Everyone here has X amount of years of life, encountering a myriad of different circumstances..... having been raised in a whole spectrum of different environments.

Do you REALLY think you can pigeonhole people into little tiny, neat bundles for your own convenience? Really?

Maybe you've had strong, traumatic experiences in life that have soured you on white people.... I don't know. But seeing as to how you're in your 30's, you have a lot of years ahead, in which you could foreseeable have other experiences that might change your mind about some things. Or at least serve to moderate your thoughts.

Because of my own upbringing, racism is one of those attributes of human beings that I despise the most. Even when not directed at me, it nauseates me to see it directed toward someone else.

I think I've mentioned this before, but when lived in the States I had a couple of letters (to the Editor) published where I vented my outrage at televised events where racism was there for all to see.



But I don't have to prove or justify myself to you or anyone. I'm also not hurling insults at you, just in case you want to grab on to that life preserver.

I'm merely an individual, different from everyone in here, with my own life experiences to draw from.



BTW.... I don't "pip up"..... whatever the fuck that means. And I'm certainly not "up in your face" about anything. You're seeing anger where there isn't any.

Look back at my recent posts to you. I'm not insulting.... I'm merely suggesting.

Good on you for continuing to call out racism. It's real, much unlike some on here think..... that's it's some sort of fabricated bullshit. That's the coward's way out. Racism is real and until people accept that, it'll never get resolved.

But don't talk AT people, Denilson. Talk TO people.

Too meandering, Dennis. I cannot respond point by point if you are going to start with AIDS and then end up on Elvis. Where do I go on all the inbetwern such as....bestiality? Very weird. I will leave you with a simple article highlighting how children in the black community are more likely to be abused than in other groups. All I posit is that this is not good and black people need to own their behavior towards children as does anyone with a child.

https://www.firststar.org/black-chil...t-abuse-rates/

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Good on you for continuing to call out racism. It's real, much unlike some on here think..... that's it's some sort of fabricated bullshit. That's the coward's way out. Racism is real and until people accept that, it'll never get resolved.

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Good on you for continuing to call out racism. It's real, much unlike some on here think..... that's it's some sort of fabricated bullshit. That's the coward's way out. Racism is real and until people accept that, it'll never get resolved.

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No it's not a fact, Alpha. But it IS a fact that many people consider themselves superior to others because of those very same things.

This in turn causes them to think, say, and act out in a racist manner.

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You can't catch AIDS

You catch HIV. Why ? Because HIV is a virus and AIDS is a condition.

HIV is the virus that can lead to AIDS but many people with HIV live for years without developing AIDS. A person living with HIV can expect to live a near-normal life span.

You being a member of the intellectually superior higher white race should know this. No ?

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Too meandering, Dennis. I cannot respond point by point if you are going to start with AIDS and then end up on Elvis. Where do I go on all the in between such as....bestiality? Very weird.

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In military science you don't just blow up the train, you blow up the track the train runs on. You blow up the fuel depot the trains rely on. So I attack every sexual freak in the white community

Because sexually messing with kids, babies and animals is a way worse sex crime than catching HIV.

Anyone can become HIV positive if your unlucky to have sex with a woman who has it and it even then it's still unlikely that your gonna catch it (Not that I'd risk it)

None of these bestiality are run by black people, they're all run by whites
None of these child pornography sites are by black people, they're all run by whites.

There is no sexually abuse of kids that's allowed in the black American community.

Where is in the white community ? You're sicko's are given a pass.

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All I posit is that this is not good and black people need to own their behavior towards children as does anyone with a child.

https://www.firststar.org/black-chil...t-abuse-rates/

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There’s not that many black people at that event,so they can’t make us the face of it

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Good on you for continuing to call out racism. It's real, much unlike some on here think..... that's it's some sort of fabricated bullshit. That's the coward's way out. Racism is real and until people accept that, it'll never get resolved.

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No it's not a fact, Alpha.

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I never said they didn't. I said:

"If somebody feels that they're superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, then they've got an internal superiority complex based on nothing but a figment of their own imagination. They're making this stuff up. To call a white person racist because they imagine themselves to be better than or have the moral right to rule over people of another colour, it's just buying into the indoctrination that keeps us all divided in our little groups".

Now you may disagree that it is by design to keep us in little groups but I think we agree that it is not a fact that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour.

This is what you said.

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prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


fic·ti·tious
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not real or true, being imaginary or having been fabricated.


Now.... without getting into a convoluted argument or semantics about the word "racism"...... I'm going to state that racism is most certainly NOT fictitious.... that it does in fact exist.... and that arguments to the contrary are usually meant to defend/ diminish/ deflect from the existence of racist people and racist behavior.

We both agree that skin color or ethnicity do not make anyone superior or inferior to anybody else. But getting hung up on semantics over what a racist person believes, is looking for complex solutions to simple problems.

Notice the "racism" definitions says nothing of someone "imagining they're superior". It talks about discrimination and antagonism..... two distinct actions that hurt the person on the receiving end.

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prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


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not real or true, being imaginary or having been fabricated.


Now.... without getting into a convoluted argument or semantics about the word "racism"...... I'm going to state that racism is most certainly NOT fictitious.... that it does in fact exist.... and that arguments to the contrary are usually meant to defend/ diminish/ deflect from the existence of racist people and racist behavior.

We both agree that skin color or ethnicity do not make anyone superior or inferior to anybody else. But getting hung up on semantics over what a racist person believes, is looking for complex solutions to simple problems.

Notice the "racism" definitions says nothing of someone "imagining they're superior". It talks about discrimination and antagonism..... two distinct actions that hurt the person on the receiving end.

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People need to understand that racism is fictitious. There can be no such thing as Racism. There's only one race on this planet; the human race. There aren't races of people, there are people from other places, there are people with different facial features and skin tones, but we're all members of the human race.

Blacks aren't one race, whites another, Hispanics and Asians another, we're all one race. Why don't people understand this?

If somebody feels that they're superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, then they've got an internal superiority complex based on nothing but a figment of their own imagination. They're making this stuff up. To call a white man racist because he imagines himself to be better than or has the moral right to rule over men of another colour, it's just buying into the indoctrination that keeps us all divided in our little groups.

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So if it not a fact that that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, what is it?

You are taking one part of my comment and using it out of context.

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You can't catch AIDS

You catch HIV. Why ? Because HIV is a virus and AIDS is a condition.

HIV is the virus that can lead to AIDS but many people with HIV live for years without developing AIDS. A person living with HIV can expect to live a near-normal life span.

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Too meandering, Dennis. I cannot respond point by point if you are going to start with AIDS and then end up on Elvis. Where do I go on all the in between such as....bestiality? Very weird.

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In military science you don't just blow up the train, you blow up the track the train runs on. You blow up the fuel depot the trains rely on. So I attack every sexual freak in the white community

Because sexually messing with kids, babies and animals is a way worse sex crime than catching HIV.

Anyone can become HIV positive if your unlucky to have sex with a woman who has it and it even then it's still unlikely that your gonna catch it (Not that I'd risk it)

None of these bestiality are run by black people, they're all run by whites
None of these child pornography sites are by black people, they're all run by whites.

There is no sexually abuse of kids that's allowed in the black American community.

Where is in the white community ? You're sicko's are given a pass.

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All I posit is that this is not good and black people need to own their behavior towards children as does anyone with a child.

https://www.firststar.org/black-chil...t-abuse-rates/

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https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net...e5&oe=5EA9024E

There’s not that many black people at that event,so they can’t make us the face of it

https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net...62&oe=5E989A6A

https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net...9c&oe=5EAFCA47

https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net...99&oe=5E9867A5

I'm am so happy for internet for centuries some they have portrayed themselves a little less than Jesus and we say should be like them said black people were nasty, evil, scum. Internet has exposed evil, wicked, ratchet, everything negative thing they made us to be, you are.

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Actually child abuse is something proportionally more likely to be carried out by hispanics and blacks thqn whites. Go and look at the data. You will probably deny that as you seemed to do with violent crime rates.

You are a freak Dennis. What kind of person even looks up bestiality? Oh, apparently white people....and deranged black people desperate to prove that some white people do strange things even though statistically black people are more likely to carry out violent crime, go to prison for child abuse etc. Of course most black and indeed white people do not do such things, but it is you who has declared every white person a racist and seeks to reduce the significance of proportionally more obvious and verifiable terrible things by arguing that the system is one of 'white supremacy'. Judging by your post in the Royal thread EVERYTHING to you is along racial lines.

I have been fair all along by stating we treat everyone as an individual, but you even want to drag Tito into it and thus anyone who even wants to stay kind of out of it is part of the conspiracy. Own it and encourage good behavior. That is all I ever advocate thus don't abuse children, don't abandon kids, don't carry out violent crime, do good things.

Don't evade your responsibility by blaming everything on racism. It is the easy option, takes away agency and is thus you being racist not only to whites, but to blacks too. I apply my standards to the terrible examples among white people also and have been pretty constent on that thus getting heat from SJW types on here too.

It transcends race and boild down to me having an issue with bad people who potentially hurting children full stop.

Strange last paragraph. Couple of typos there.

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Racism is fictitious.

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rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


fic·ti·tious
/fikˈtiSHəs/
adjective
not real or true, being imaginary or having been fabricated.


Now.... without getting into a convoluted argument or semantics about the word "racism"...... I'm going to state that racism is most certainly NOT fictitious.... that it does in fact exist.... and that arguments to the contrary are usually meant to defend/ diminish/ deflect from the existence of racist people and racist behavior.

We both agree that skin color or ethnicity do not make anyone superior or inferior to anybody else. But getting hung up on semantics over what a racist person believes, is looking for complex solutions to simple problems.

Notice the "racism" definitions says nothing of someone "imagining they're superior". It talks about discrimination and antagonism..... two distinct actions that hurt the person on the receiving end.

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This is what I actually posted and copied and edited from (on 1 November 2019 in this thread https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...ism+fictitious post #29):

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Originally Posted by Alpha

People need to understand that racism is fictitious. There can be no such thing as Racism. There's only one race on this planet; the human race. There aren't races of people, there are people from other places, there are people with different facial features and skin tones, but we're all members of the human race.

Blacks aren't one race, whites another, Hispanics and Asians another, we're all one race. Why don't people understand this?

If somebody feels that they're superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, then they've got an internal superiority complex based on nothing but a figment of their own imagination. They're making this stuff up. To call a white man racist because he imagines himself to be better than or has the moral right to rule over men of another colour, it's just buying into the indoctrination that keeps us all divided in our little groups.

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So if it not a fact that that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, what is it?

You are taking one part of my comment and using it out of context.

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Even worse, Alpha. Not only do you say that racism is "fictitious", but you go on to say there is no such thing as racism, all based because according to you there is only one race on the planet: the human race. And yet.......


race
/rās/
noun
noun: race; plural noun: races
each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics.
"people of all races, colors, and creeds"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

the fact or condition of belonging to a racial division or group; the qualities or characteristics associated with this.
"people of mixed race"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group.
"we Scots were a bloodthirsty race then"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin
people
nation



So you see..... you don't get to implement your own personal definition of "race"....... nor "racism", for that matter. Once again, it's a matter of convenience when people start playing games with words.

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You are a freak Dennis. What kind of person even looks up bestiality? Oh, apparently white people....and deranged black people desperate to prove that some white people do strange things even though statistically black people are more likely to carry out violent crime.

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Another common tactic white supremacist use when they feel they're losing ground on one issue, they'll try another issue.

So you go from sexual freaks to violent crime in the black community.

OK. Let's talk about violent crime. You brought up the issue. Not me,

You put forward you're evidence that black people are and have been the most violent race on earth over the past 400 years

And I'll put my evidence that white people are and have been the most violent race on earth over the past 400 years

And let's see who wins OK ?

You being a member of the intellectually superior white race then this should be easy for you.......No ?

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You are a freak Dennis. What kind of person even looks up bestiality? Oh, apparently white people....and deranged black people desperate to prove that some white people do strange things even though statistically black people are more likely to carry out violent crime.

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Another common tactic white supremacist use when they feel they're losing ground on one issue, they'll try another issue.

So you go from sexual freaks to violent crime in the black community.

OK. Let's talk about violent crime. You brought up the issue. Not me,

You put forward you're evidence that black people are and have been the most violent race on earth over the past 400 years

And I'll put my evidence that white people are and have been the most violent race on earth over the past 400 years

And let's see who wins OK ?

You being a member of the intellectually superior white race then this should be easy for you.......No ?

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@Denilson-The-Comeback, I’m not going to profess to having read this whole thread, not interested to be honest. But what I would say is , yes there are racists out here,and there are White Supremacists.
However, I also feel that YOU are racist.
Do you know what ? I probably am as well to some degree.
The truth is that I think the World is full of racists of every colour , race or creed, and I don’t think it will ever be eradicated totally.
The Human race when all said and done, is by and large a piece of shit.
The difference is that some people are honest enough to admit it, and others play the victim ad infinitum.
When you post about Boxing, some of your posts are ultra intelligent, you are not dumb by a very long chalk.
But you like to give this impression of yourself that I think , is a bit of a smokescreen. Dunno why and it’s not really my business, but IMO you should stick to Boxing and forget about “White Supremacists.”
Not being smarmy here or condescending, just think you’re contributions are more valuable when you’re talking Boxing .

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This is what you said.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Racism is fictitious.

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rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


fic·ti·tious
/fikˈtiSHəs/
adjective
not real or true, being imaginary or having been fabricated.


Now.... without getting into a convoluted argument or semantics about the word "racism"...... I'm going to state that racism is most certainly NOT fictitious.... that it does in fact exist.... and that arguments to the contrary are usually meant to defend/ diminish/ deflect from the existence of racist people and racist behavior.

We both agree that skin color or ethnicity do not make anyone superior or inferior to anybody else. But getting hung up on semantics over what a racist person believes, is looking for complex solutions to simple problems.

Notice the "racism" definitions says nothing of someone "imagining they're superior". It talks about discrimination and antagonism..... two distinct actions that hurt the person on the receiving end.

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This is what I actually posted and copied and edited from (on 1 November 2019 in this thread https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...ism+fictitious post #29):

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Originally Posted by Alpha

People need to understand that racism is fictitious. There can be no such thing as Racism. There's only one race on this planet; the human race. There aren't races of people, there are people from other places, there are people with different facial features and skin tones, but we're all members of the human race.

Blacks aren't one race, whites another, Hispanics and Asians another, we're all one race. Why don't people understand this?

If somebody feels that they're superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, then they've got an internal superiority complex based on nothing but a figment of their own imagination. They're making this stuff up. To call a white man racist because he imagines himself to be better than or has the moral right to rule over men of another colour, it's just buying into the indoctrination that keeps us all divided in our little groups.

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So if it not a fact that that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, what is it?

You are taking one part of my comment and using it out of context.

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Even worse, Alpha. Not only do you say that racism is "fictitious", but you go on to say there is no such thing as racism, all based because according to you there is only one race on the planet: the human race. And yet.......


race
/rās/
noun
noun: race; plural noun: races
each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics.
"people of all races, colors, and creeds"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

the fact or condition of belonging to a racial division or group; the qualities or characteristics associated with this.
"people of mixed race"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group.
"we Scots were a bloodthirsty race then"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin
people
nation



So you see..... you don't get to implement your own personal definition of "race"....... nor "racism", for that matter. Once again, it's a matter of convenience when people start playing games with words.

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human race
/ˌhjuːmən ˈreɪs/
noun
human beings in general; humankind.

Do you believe that people from other places, people with different facial features and skin tones etc aren't part of the human race?

You have already adimitted that it is not a fact that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, so if it's not a fact then it's made up, an idea or a belief, something that isn't real. Peoples actions based on those made up ideas or beliefs are down to ones morality.

I prefer to see people as people, and base my thoughts on each individual based on their actions of morality and immorality. If you choose to break people down into different groups based on differences that's up to you.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

This is what you said.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Racism is fictitious.

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rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


fic·ti·tious
/fikˈtiSHəs/
adjective
not real or true, being imaginary or having been fabricated.


Now.... without getting into a convoluted argument or semantics about the word "racism"...... I'm going to state that racism is most certainly NOT fictitious.... that it does in fact exist.... and that arguments to the contrary are usually meant to defend/ diminish/ deflect from the existence of racist people and racist behavior.

We both agree that skin color or ethnicity do not make anyone superior or inferior to anybody else. But getting hung up on semantics over what a racist person believes, is looking for complex solutions to simple problems.

Notice the "racism" definitions says nothing of someone "imagining they're superior". It talks about discrimination and antagonism..... two distinct actions that hurt the person on the receiving end.

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This is what I actually posted and copied and edited from (on 1 November 2019 in this thread https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...ism+fictitious post #29):

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Originally Posted by Alpha

People need to understand that racism is fictitious. There can be no such thing as Racism. There's only one race on this planet; the human race. There aren't races of people, there are people from other places, there are people with different facial features and skin tones, but we're all members of the human race.

Blacks aren't one race, whites another, Hispanics and Asians another, we're all one race. Why don't people understand this?

If somebody feels that they're superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, then they've got an internal superiority complex based on nothing but a figment of their own imagination. They're making this stuff up. To call a white man racist because he imagines himself to be better than or has the moral right to rule over men of another colour, it's just buying into the indoctrination that keeps us all divided in our little groups.

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So if it not a fact that that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, what is it?

You are taking one part of my comment and using it out of context.

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Even worse, Alpha. Not only do you say that racism is "fictitious", but you go on to say there is no such thing as racism, all based because according to you there is only one race on the planet: the human race. And yet.......


race
/rās/
noun
noun: race; plural noun: races
each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics.
"people of all races, colors, and creeds"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

the fact or condition of belonging to a racial division or group; the qualities or characteristics associated with this.
"people of mixed race"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group.
"we Scots were a bloodthirsty race then"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin
people
nation



So you see..... you don't get to implement your own personal definition of "race"....... nor "racism", for that matter. Once again, it's a matter of convenience when people start playing games with words.

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human race
/ˌhjuːmən ˈreɪs/
noun
human beings in general; humankind.

Do you believe that people from other places, people with different facial features and skin tones etc aren't part of the human race?

You have already adimitted that it is not a fact that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, so if it's not a fact then it's made up, an idea or a belief, something that isn't real. Peoples actions based on those made up ideas or beliefs are down to ones morality.

I prefer to see people as people, and base my thoughts on each individual based on their actions of morality and immorality. If you choose to break people down into different groups based on differences that's up to you.

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One thing is to believe the Earth is flat. You're obviously totally entitled to those beliefs.

It's quite another to claim that racism is fictitious.

I see people as people too..... but this isn't about you and me. It's about racist people.

I've already proven racism does exist, and that it isn't just about superiority beliefs. It's about actions detrimental to the targets of racism.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

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Originally Posted by Alpha

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

This is what you said.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Racism is fictitious.

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rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


fic·ti·tious
/fikˈtiSHəs/
adjective
not real or true, being imaginary or having been fabricated.


Now.... without getting into a convoluted argument or semantics about the word "racism"...... I'm going to state that racism is most certainly NOT fictitious.... that it does in fact exist.... and that arguments to the contrary are usually meant to defend/ diminish/ deflect from the existence of racist people and racist behavior.

We both agree that skin color or ethnicity do not make anyone superior or inferior to anybody else. But getting hung up on semantics over what a racist person believes, is looking for complex solutions to simple problems.

Notice the "racism" definitions says nothing of someone "imagining they're superior". It talks about discrimination and antagonism..... two distinct actions that hurt the person on the receiving end.

---

This is what I actually posted and copied and edited from (on 1 November 2019 in this thread https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...ism+fictitious post #29):

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Originally Posted by Alpha

People need to understand that racism is fictitious. There can be no such thing as Racism. There's only one race on this planet; the human race. There aren't races of people, there are people from other places, there are people with different facial features and skin tones, but we're all members of the human race.

Blacks aren't one race, whites another, Hispanics and Asians another, we're all one race. Why don't people understand this?

If somebody feels that they're superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, then they've got an internal superiority complex based on nothing but a figment of their own imagination. They're making this stuff up. To call a white man racist because he imagines himself to be better than or has the moral right to rule over men of another colour, it's just buying into the indoctrination that keeps us all divided in our little groups.

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So if it not a fact that that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, what is it?

You are taking one part of my comment and using it out of context.

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Even worse, Alpha. Not only do you say that racism is "fictitious", but you go on to say there is no such thing as racism, all based because according to you there is only one race on the planet: the human race. And yet.......


race
/rās/
noun
noun: race; plural noun: races
each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics.
"people of all races, colors, and creeds"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

the fact or condition of belonging to a racial division or group; the qualities or characteristics associated with this.
"people of mixed race"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group.
"we Scots were a bloodthirsty race then"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin
people
nation



So you see..... you don't get to implement your own personal definition of "race"....... nor "racism", for that matter. Once again, it's a matter of convenience when people start playing games with words.

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human race
/ˌhjuːmən ˈreɪs/
noun
human beings in general; humankind.

Do you believe that people from other places, people with different facial features and skin tones etc aren't part of the human race?

You have already adimitted that it is not a fact that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, so if it's not a fact then it's made up, an idea or a belief, something that isn't real. Peoples actions based on those made up ideas or beliefs are down to ones morality.

I prefer to see people as people, and base my thoughts on each individual based on their actions of morality and immorality. If you choose to break people down into different groups based on differences that's up to you.

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One thing is to believe the Earth is flat. You're obviously totally entitled to those beliefs.

It's quite another to claim that racism is fictitious.

I see people as people too..... but this isn't about you and me. It's about racist people.

I've already proven racism does exist, and that it isn't just about superiority beliefs. It's about actions detrimental to the targets of racism.

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The earth is demostrably level, as proven by the physics of the tangible substance known as water.

It's not a fact that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour. If somebody feels that way, it is only based on something they imagine themselves to be. The actions they portray based on that ficticious idea comes down to the morality of the indivdual.

To seperate people into groups based on differences (colour, gender, sexual preference, nationality, political affiliation etc) is all by design to keep us as a people fighting among ourselves, rather than focusing on the real problem, that is those in control.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

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Originally Posted by Alpha

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

This is what you said.

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Racism is fictitious.

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rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


fic·ti·tious
/fikˈtiSHəs/
adjective
not real or true, being imaginary or having been fabricated.


Now.... without getting into a convoluted argument or semantics about the word "racism"...... I'm going to state that racism is most certainly NOT fictitious.... that it does in fact exist.... and that arguments to the contrary are usually meant to defend/ diminish/ deflect from the existence of racist people and racist behavior.

We both agree that skin color or ethnicity do not make anyone superior or inferior to anybody else. But getting hung up on semantics over what a racist person believes, is looking for complex solutions to simple problems.

Notice the "racism" definitions says nothing of someone "imagining they're superior". It talks about discrimination and antagonism..... two distinct actions that hurt the person on the receiving end.

---

This is what I actually posted and copied and edited from (on 1 November 2019 in this thread https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...ism+fictitious post #29):

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Originally Posted by Alpha

People need to understand that racism is fictitious. There can be no such thing as Racism. There's only one race on this planet; the human race. There aren't races of people, there are people from other places, there are people with different facial features and skin tones, but we're all members of the human race.

Blacks aren't one race, whites another, Hispanics and Asians another, we're all one race. Why don't people understand this?

If somebody feels that they're superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, then they've got an internal superiority complex based on nothing but a figment of their own imagination. They're making this stuff up. To call a white man racist because he imagines himself to be better than or has the moral right to rule over men of another colour, it's just buying into the indoctrination that keeps us all divided in our little groups.

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So if it not a fact that that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, what is it?

You are taking one part of my comment and using it out of context.

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Even worse, Alpha. Not only do you say that racism is "fictitious", but you go on to say there is no such thing as racism, all based because according to you there is only one race on the planet: the human race. And yet.......


race
/rās/
noun
noun: race; plural noun: races
each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics.
"people of all races, colors, and creeds"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

the fact or condition of belonging to a racial division or group; the qualities or characteristics associated with this.
"people of mixed race"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group.
"we Scots were a bloodthirsty race then"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin
people
nation



So you see..... you don't get to implement your own personal definition of "race"....... nor "racism", for that matter. Once again, it's a matter of convenience when people start playing games with words.

---

human race
/ˌhjuːmən ˈreɪs/
noun
human beings in general; humankind.

Do you believe that people from other places, people with different facial features and skin tones etc aren't part of the human race?

You have already adimitted that it is not a fact that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, so if it's not a fact then it's made up, an idea or a belief, something that isn't real. Peoples actions based on those made up ideas or beliefs are down to ones morality.

I prefer to see people as people, and base my thoughts on each individual based on their actions of morality and immorality. If you choose to break people down into different groups based on differences that's up to you.

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One thing is to believe the Earth is flat. You're obviously totally entitled to those beliefs.

It's quite another to claim that racism is fictitious.

I see people as people too..... but this isn't about you and me. It's about racist people.

I've already proven racism does exist, and that it isn't just about superiority beliefs. It's about actions detrimental to the targets of racism.

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The earth is demostrably level, as proven by the physics of the tangible substance known as water.

It's not a fact that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour. If somebody feels that way, it is only based on something they imagine themselves to be. The actions they portray based on that ficticious idea comes down to the morality of the indivdual.

To seperate people into groups based on differences (colour, gender, sexual preference, nationality, political affiliation etc) is all by design to keep us as a people fighting among ourselves, rather than focusing on the real problem, that is those in control.

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People take it upon themselves to create separation from others because of these differences, Alpha. These same people, through ignorance, fear, or just plain malice, then practice the actions of racism. If it was just beliefs of superiority, no harm no foul. But they discriminate, antagonize, and in other ways hurt others they deem different. Calling racism fictitious is, IMO, a disservice to this malaise that a lot of people suffer from.

People are tribal and that is a form of racism against others and why you do end up with pockets of Islamic areas, your Chinatowns. In that regard all people at times are probably a bit racist, but it is taboo to suggest so. Why would you move to a country and not fit in with the local populace and instead self divide? You have to be a bit racist, so why move there then? It isn't government making people choose to live with people who look like them. Birds of a feather do indeed flock together. Most do not marry outside their group either. I expect Dennis is quite the same in that regard.

I have no issues with race, but just accept that group differences do exist and will point out when Dennis is going off the deep end on something or other. I have nothing against anybody of any race nor wish anything negative upon anyone. All I argue is that all people have agency and that they can choose to make good or bad decisions. To blame a race for the flaws in your own group is cowardly IMO. Own the behavior.

I thought I would look up mixed race marriage data in the US and the number is low but compared to other countries pretty good. About 15% of marriages are mixed race. Most approve of it but 20% do not and you would have to think they might be the hardcore racists. Up to them though and if they don't approve then that is their choice, but I consider that racist. I wouldn't criminalize Dennis for thinking that way, but would just laugh at him instead as it is small minded.

Interestingly the piece had the divorce rates among ethnic groups and Dennis won't be surprised at who is least able to sustain a marriage. Any mixed relationship with a black man or woman is also most likely to fail compared to other groupings.

White plus white is somewhat in the middle and the most successful marriages are by a long margin Asian plus Asian. My own combination is second behind them with generally very good outcomes.

I don't really have any analysis as to why those outcomes are as they are as I haven't even thought about it, but the raw data is what it is and quite interesting.

We learn something new everyday.

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Racism is fictitious.

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rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


fic·ti·tious
/fikˈtiSHəs/
adjective
not real or true, being imaginary or having been fabricated.


Now.... without getting into a convoluted argument or semantics about the word "racism"...... I'm going to state that racism is most certainly NOT fictitious.... that it does in fact exist.... and that arguments to the contrary are usually meant to defend/ diminish/ deflect from the existence of racist people and racist behavior.

We both agree that skin color or ethnicity do not make anyone superior or inferior to anybody else. But getting hung up on semantics over what a racist person believes, is looking for complex solutions to simple problems.

Notice the "racism" definitions says nothing of someone "imagining they're superior". It talks about discrimination and antagonism..... two distinct actions that hurt the person on the receiving end.

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This is what I actually posted and copied and edited from (on 1 November 2019 in this thread https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...ism+fictitious post #29):

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People need to understand that racism is fictitious. There can be no such thing as Racism. There's only one race on this planet; the human race. There aren't races of people, there are people from other places, there are people with different facial features and skin tones, but we're all members of the human race.

Blacks aren't one race, whites another, Hispanics and Asians another, we're all one race. Why don't people understand this?

If somebody feels that they're superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, then they've got an internal superiority complex based on nothing but a figment of their own imagination. They're making this stuff up. To call a white man racist because he imagines himself to be better than or has the moral right to rule over men of another colour, it's just buying into the indoctrination that keeps us all divided in our little groups.

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So if it not a fact that that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, what is it?

You are taking one part of my comment and using it out of context.

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Even worse, Alpha. Not only do you say that racism is "fictitious", but you go on to say there is no such thing as racism, all based because according to you there is only one race on the planet: the human race. And yet.......


race
/rās/
noun
noun: race; plural noun: races
each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics.
"people of all races, colors, and creeds"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

the fact or condition of belonging to a racial division or group; the qualities or characteristics associated with this.
"people of mixed race"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group.
"we Scots were a bloodthirsty race then"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin
people
nation



So you see..... you don't get to implement your own personal definition of "race"....... nor "racism", for that matter. Once again, it's a matter of convenience when people start playing games with words.

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human race
/ˌhjuːmən ˈreɪs/
noun
human beings in general; humankind.

Do you believe that people from other places, people with different facial features and skin tones etc aren't part of the human race?

You have already adimitted that it is not a fact that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, so if it's not a fact then it's made up, an idea or a belief, something that isn't real. Peoples actions based on those made up ideas or beliefs are down to ones morality.

I prefer to see people as people, and base my thoughts on each individual based on their actions of morality and immorality. If you choose to break people down into different groups based on differences that's up to you.

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One thing is to believe the Earth is flat. You're obviously totally entitled to those beliefs.

It's quite another to claim that racism is fictitious.

I see people as people too..... but this isn't about you and me. It's about racist people.

I've already proven racism does exist, and that it isn't just about superiority beliefs. It's about actions detrimental to the targets of racism.

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The earth is demostrably level, as proven by the physics of the tangible substance known as water.

It's not a fact that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour. If somebody feels that way, it is only based on something they imagine themselves to be. The actions they portray based on that ficticious idea comes down to the morality of the indivdual.

To seperate people into groups based on differences (colour, gender, sexual preference, nationality, political affiliation etc) is all by design to keep us as a people fighting among ourselves, rather than focusing on the real problem, that is those in control.

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People take it upon themselves to create separation from others because of these differences, Alpha. These same people, through ignorance, fear, or just plain malice, then practice the actions of racism. If it was just beliefs of superiority, no harm no foul. But they discriminate, antagonize, and in other ways hurt others they deem different. Calling racism fictitious is, IMO, a disservice to this malaise that a lot of people suffer from.

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I have never said that people don't practice these actions, only that the reason they do is based on something imagined and ficticious. The point being that these people act immorally based on something they imagine themselves to be.

We'll just have to agree to disagree, I'm sure we are basically on the same page.

I will ask tho, do you think these people, that act in this way imagine that people that look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, are superior to themselves or their equals?

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Racism is fictitious.

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rac·ism
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noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


fic·ti·tious
/fikˈtiSHəs/
adjective
not real or true, being imaginary or having been fabricated.


Now.... without getting into a convoluted argument or semantics about the word "racism"...... I'm going to state that racism is most certainly NOT fictitious.... that it does in fact exist.... and that arguments to the contrary are usually meant to defend/ diminish/ deflect from the existence of racist people and racist behavior.

We both agree that skin color or ethnicity do not make anyone superior or inferior to anybody else. But getting hung up on semantics over what a racist person believes, is looking for complex solutions to simple problems.

Notice the "racism" definitions says nothing of someone "imagining they're superior". It talks about discrimination and antagonism..... two distinct actions that hurt the person on the receiving end.

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This is what I actually posted and copied and edited from (on 1 November 2019 in this thread https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...ism+fictitious post #29):

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People need to understand that racism is fictitious. There can be no such thing as Racism. There's only one race on this planet; the human race. There aren't races of people, there are people from other places, there are people with different facial features and skin tones, but we're all members of the human race.

Blacks aren't one race, whites another, Hispanics and Asians another, we're all one race. Why don't people understand this?

If somebody feels that they're superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, then they've got an internal superiority complex based on nothing but a figment of their own imagination. They're making this stuff up. To call a white man racist because he imagines himself to be better than or has the moral right to rule over men of another colour, it's just buying into the indoctrination that keeps us all divided in our little groups.

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So if it not a fact that that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, what is it?

You are taking one part of my comment and using it out of context.

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Even worse, Alpha. Not only do you say that racism is "fictitious", but you go on to say there is no such thing as racism, all based because according to you there is only one race on the planet: the human race. And yet.......


race
/rās/
noun
noun: race; plural noun: races
each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics.
"people of all races, colors, and creeds"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

the fact or condition of belonging to a racial division or group; the qualities or characteristics associated with this.
"people of mixed race"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group.
"we Scots were a bloodthirsty race then"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin
people
nation



So you see..... you don't get to implement your own personal definition of "race"....... nor "racism", for that matter. Once again, it's a matter of convenience when people start playing games with words.

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human race
/ˌhjuːmən ˈreɪs/
noun
human beings in general; humankind.

Do you believe that people from other places, people with different facial features and skin tones etc aren't part of the human race?

You have already adimitted that it is not a fact that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, so if it's not a fact then it's made up, an idea or a belief, something that isn't real. Peoples actions based on those made up ideas or beliefs are down to ones morality.

I prefer to see people as people, and base my thoughts on each individual based on their actions of morality and immorality. If you choose to break people down into different groups based on differences that's up to you.

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One thing is to believe the Earth is flat. You're obviously totally entitled to those beliefs.

It's quite another to claim that racism is fictitious.

I see people as people too..... but this isn't about you and me. It's about racist people.

I've already proven racism does exist, and that it isn't just about superiority beliefs. It's about actions detrimental to the targets of racism.

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The earth is demostrably level, as proven by the physics of the tangible substance known as water.

It's not a fact that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour. If somebody feels that way, it is only based on something they imagine themselves to be. The actions they portray based on that ficticious idea comes down to the morality of the indivdual.

To seperate people into groups based on differences (colour, gender, sexual preference, nationality, political affiliation etc) is all by design to keep us as a people fighting among ourselves, rather than focusing on the real problem, that is those in control.

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People take it upon themselves to create separation from others because of these differences, Alpha. These same people, through ignorance, fear, or just plain malice, then practice the actions of racism. If it was just beliefs of superiority, no harm no foul. But they discriminate, antagonize, and in other ways hurt others they deem different. Calling racism fictitious is, IMO, a disservice to this malaise that a lot of people suffer from.

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I have never said that people don't practice these actions, only that the reason they do is based on something imagined and ficticious. The point being that these people act immorally based on something they imagine themselves to be.

We'll just have to agree to disagree, I'm sure we are basically on the same page.

I will ask tho, do you think these people, that act in this way imagine that people that look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, are superior to themselves or their equals?

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I think that these people consider themselves superior to others of a different skin color, ethnicity, etc. It's a belief borne of ignorance, the worst kind. In some cases it's fear. An ungrounded fear again.... based on skin color and/or ethnicity. They don't see people as people. They themselves see the visual differences and come to their own ignorant conclusions. Unfortunately this is a behavior taught since birth. If you raise kids together in a vacuum, kids of different colors and ethnic groups, they get along fine.... the ultimate lesson to adults. But spoil them with your own prejudices, biases, and ignorance..... and they become "poisoned", and worse yet..... continue the cycle of ignorance and fear by passing it along to their own kids.

Racism is among the most nauseating characteristics a person can because, precisely because it's baseless. Yes.... we're all human beings, as you say. Yet there are visual differences between races which make it easy for the ignorant people of the world to establish these ridiculous notions and cubbyhole people into groups. In a way, I see what you're trying to say, that there is only the human race. It's not a bad thing to say to a racist person who deems him/herself superior (or inferior) to others for no other reason than their skin color. The visual differences are undeniable. Asian people look a certain way. So do blacks. So do indigenous people from Bolivia, for example. So it makes it easy for ignorant people to establish their B.S. beliefs and pass it on to their poor children.

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This is what you said.

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Racism is fictitious.

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rac·ism
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noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


fic·ti·tious
/fikˈtiSHəs/
adjective
not real or true, being imaginary or having been fabricated.


Now.... without getting into a convoluted argument or semantics about the word "racism"...... I'm going to state that racism is most certainly NOT fictitious.... that it does in fact exist.... and that arguments to the contrary are usually meant to defend/ diminish/ deflect from the existence of racist people and racist behavior.

We both agree that skin color or ethnicity do not make anyone superior or inferior to anybody else. But getting hung up on semantics over what a racist person believes, is looking for complex solutions to simple problems.

Notice the "racism" definitions says nothing of someone "imagining they're superior". It talks about discrimination and antagonism..... two distinct actions that hurt the person on the receiving end.

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This is what I actually posted and copied and edited from (on 1 November 2019 in this thread https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...ism+fictitious post #29):

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Originally Posted by Alpha

People need to understand that racism is fictitious. There can be no such thing as Racism. There's only one race on this planet; the human race. There aren't races of people, there are people from other places, there are people with different facial features and skin tones, but we're all members of the human race.

Blacks aren't one race, whites another, Hispanics and Asians another, we're all one race. Why don't people understand this?

If somebody feels that they're superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, then they've got an internal superiority complex based on nothing but a figment of their own imagination. They're making this stuff up. To call a white man racist because he imagines himself to be better than or has the moral right to rule over men of another colour, it's just buying into the indoctrination that keeps us all divided in our little groups.

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So if it not a fact that that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, what is it?

You are taking one part of my comment and using it out of context.

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Even worse, Alpha. Not only do you say that racism is "fictitious", but you go on to say there is no such thing as racism, all based because according to you there is only one race on the planet: the human race. And yet.......


race
/rās/
noun
noun: race; plural noun: races
each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics.
"people of all races, colors, and creeds"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

the fact or condition of belonging to a racial division or group; the qualities or characteristics associated with this.
"people of mixed race"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin

a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group.
"we Scots were a bloodthirsty race then"
Similar:
ethnic group
racial type
(ethnic) origin
people
nation



So you see..... you don't get to implement your own personal definition of "race"....... nor "racism", for that matter. Once again, it's a matter of convenience when people start playing games with words.

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human race
/ˌhjuːmən ˈreɪs/
noun
human beings in general; humankind.

Do you believe that people from other places, people with different facial features and skin tones etc aren't part of the human race?

You have already adimitted that it is not a fact that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, so if it's not a fact then it's made up, an idea or a belief, something that isn't real. Peoples actions based on those made up ideas or beliefs are down to ones morality.

I prefer to see people as people, and base my thoughts on each individual based on their actions of morality and immorality. If you choose to break people down into different groups based on differences that's up to you.

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One thing is to believe the Earth is flat. You're obviously totally entitled to those beliefs.

It's quite another to claim that racism is fictitious.

I see people as people too..... but this isn't about you and me. It's about racist people.

I've already proven racism does exist, and that it isn't just about superiority beliefs. It's about actions detrimental to the targets of racism.

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The earth is demostrably level, as proven by the physics of the tangible substance known as water.

It's not a fact that somebody is superior to somebody else because they look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour. If somebody feels that way, it is only based on something they imagine themselves to be. The actions they portray based on that ficticious idea comes down to the morality of the indivdual.

To seperate people into groups based on differences (colour, gender, sexual preference, nationality, political affiliation etc) is all by design to keep us as a people fighting among ourselves, rather than focusing on the real problem, that is those in control.

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People take it upon themselves to create separation from others because of these differences, Alpha. These same people, through ignorance, fear, or just plain malice, then practice the actions of racism. If it was just beliefs of superiority, no harm no foul. But they discriminate, antagonize, and in other ways hurt others they deem different. Calling racism fictitious is, IMO, a disservice to this malaise that a lot of people suffer from.

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I have never said that people don't practice these actions, only that the reason they do is based on something imagined and ficticious. The point being that these people act immorally based on something they imagine themselves to be.

We'll just have to agree to disagree, I'm sure we are basically on the same page.

I will ask tho, do you think these people, that act in this way imagine that people that look a certain way or talk a certain way or have a different skin tone or colour, are superior to themselves or their equals?

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I think that these people consider themselves superior to others of a different skin color, ethnicity, etc. It's a belief borne of ignorance, the worst kind. In some cases it's fear. An ungrounded fear again.... based on skin color and/or ethnicity. They don't see people as people. They themselves see the visual differences and come to their own ignorant conclusions. Unfortunately this is a behavior taught since birth. If you raise kids together in a vacuum, kids of different colors and ethnic groups, they get along fine.... the ultimate lesson to adults. But spoil them with your own prejudices, biases, and ignorance..... and they become "poisoned", and worse yet..... continue the cycle of ignorance and fear by passing it along to their own kids.

Racism is among the most nauseating characteristics a person can because, precisely because it's baseless. Yes.... we're all human beings, as you say. Yet there are visual differences between races which make it easy for the ignorant people of the world to establish these ridiculous notions and cubbyhole people into groups. In a way, I see what you're trying to say, that there is only the human race. It's not a bad thing to say to a racist person who deems him/herself superior (or inferior) to others for no other reason than their skin color. The visual differences are undeniable. Asian people look a certain way. So do blacks. So do indigenous people from Bolivia, for example. So it makes it easy for ignorant people to establish their B.S. beliefs and pass it on to their poor children.

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I like that you brought up children of different colours being around each other, it doesn't necessarily have to be in a vacuum, as you tend to find that children of a certain age are not concerned with the differences between each other, they can be curious, and sometimes in the case of disability or the like (burns for example) can be fearful from not understanding, but not generally hateful. We tend to learn our prejudices from our parents/ guardians, but with each individual, it comes down to ones nature and morals. You will always have people that have an evil nature, not all bullies enjoy hurting others or animals for example, there can be circumstances behind their actions, some do and will always continue to act immorally. We all make mistakes through this journey we call life, and as we age and gain wisdom, it becomes the individuals responsibility to empower themselves and be self responsible.

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You are a freak Dennis. What kind of person even looks up bestiality? Oh, apparently white people....and deranged black people desperate to prove that some white people do strange things even though statistically black people are more likely to carry out violent crime.

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Another common tactic white supremacist use when they feel they're losing ground on one issue, they'll try another issue.

So you go from sexual freaks to violent crime in the black community.

OK. Let's talk about violent crime. You brought up the issue. Not me,

You put forward you're evidence that black people are and have been the most violent race on earth over the past 400 years

And I'll put my evidence that white people are and have been the most violent race on earth over the past 400 years

And let's see who wins OK ?

You being a member of the intellectually superior white race then this should be easy for you.......No ?

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@Denilson-The-Comeback, I’m not going to profess to having read this whole thread, not interested to be honest. But what I would say is , yes there are racists out here,and there are White Supremacists.
However, I also feel that YOU are racist.
Do you know what ? I probably am as well to some degree.
The truth is that I think the World is full of racists of every colour , race or creed, and I don’t think it will ever be eradicated totally.
The Human race when all said and done, is by and large a piece of shit.
The difference is that some people are honest enough to admit it, and others play the victim ad infinitum.
When you post about Boxing, some of your posts are ultra intelligent, you are not dumb by a very long chalk.
But you like to give this impression of yourself that I think , is a bit of a smokescreen. Dunno why and it’s not really my business, but IMO you should stick to Boxing and forget about “White Supremacists.”
Not being smarmy here or condescending, just think you’re contributions are more valuable when you’re talking Boxing .

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I am racist. I know this.

The likes of @Gandalf and @TitoFan accuse me of this as if to "out me" or "smear me"

But two things make it different.

First, it goes in the opposite direction in that I favour blacks, not whites.

Second, I am honest about being racist.

And being honest about is the key.

If a white man said "Look Man. Through out history, everyone has tried sh*tting and oppressing everyone, but now it's our turn and we've been better at it than you and other non white ppl and you'd be crazy if you think we'd wanna give all this sh*t up"

That real talk because there is an element of truth to it

But yeah I’ve seen in group preference from Italian men who idolize Italian women. I’ve seen it working in a restaurant where black guests asked for a black server so they could “keep the money in the good.” And of course I see this 24-7, 365, daily among whites that are almost unaware of their preference and bias.

But racism is a power play and without power.

So black racism is name calling really.

Because name calling is really the only negative thing black ppl can do to white ppl and not be severely punished.

So racial bias on the part of black folks, even the most viciousis pretty impotent.

Even this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIrKtoHYPsE

He may hate white ppl and yet what kind of power does he have ? None. He's in a position to kill no one and if he were to try he would go to jail. Forever.

That’s not racism. Racism is when you can deny people jobs, housing, health care, decent educations, or their physical freedom via the justice system, thereby wrecking their lives.

And there are no black folks who can do any of that.

But there are white folks in positions to do those things, and who do them 24-7, 365 to blk ppl

And I mainly do want to stick to boxing topics, after all that's why I joined here. To be honest I'm not even sure having a section on saddo for non boxing topics is a good thing. If I was a mod I'd have strictly boxing topics and combat topics only.

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You are a freak Dennis. What kind of person even looks up bestiality? Oh, apparently white people....and deranged black people desperate to prove that some white people do strange things even though statistically black people are more likely to carry out violent crime.

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Another common tactic white supremacist use when they feel they're losing ground on one issue, they'll try another issue.

So you go from sexual freaks to violent crime in the black community.

OK. Let's talk about violent crime. You brought up the issue. Not me,

You put forward you're evidence that black people are and have been the most violent race on earth over the past 400 years

And I'll put my evidence that white people are and have been the most violent race on earth over the past 400 years

And let's see who wins OK ?

You being a member of the intellectually superior white race then this should be easy for you.......No ?

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@Denilson-The-Comeback, I’m not going to profess to having read this whole thread, not interested to be honest. But what I would say is , yes there are racists out here,and there are White Supremacists.
However, I also feel that YOU are racist.
Do you know what ? I probably am as well to some degree.
The truth is that I think the World is full of racists of every colour , race or creed, and I don’t think it will ever be eradicated totally.
The Human race when all said and done, is by and large a piece of shit.
The difference is that some people are honest enough to admit it, and others play the victim ad infinitum.
When you post about Boxing, some of your posts are ultra intelligent, you are not dumb by a very long chalk.
But you like to give this impression of yourself that I think , is a bit of a smokescreen. Dunno why and it’s not really my business, but IMO you should stick to Boxing and forget about “White Supremacists.”
Not being smarmy here or condescending, just think you’re contributions are more valuable when you’re talking Boxing .

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I am racist. I know this. The likes of @Gandalf and @TitoFan accuse me of this as if to "out me" or "smear me"

But two things make it different.

First, it goes in the opposite direction in that I favour blacks, not whites.

Second, I am honest about being racist.

And being honest about is the key.

If a white man said "Look Man. Through out history, everyone has tried sh*tting and oppressing everyone, but now it's our turn and we've been better at it than you and other non white ppl and you'd be crazy if you think we'd wanna give all this sh*t up"

That real talk because there is an element of truth to it

But yeah I’ve seen in group preference from Italian men who idolize Italian women. I’ve seen it working in a restaurant where black guests asked for a black server so they could “keep the money in the good.” And of course I see this 24-7, 365, daily among whites that are almost unaware of their preference and bias.

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Wow. It's taken almost 200 posts (and countless more before "the Comeback" ;D )...... but you've finally come clean about being racist. Well congratulations on that very important first step.

I'm not being facetious, either. I'm being completely honest, because this is new ground we're treading on now. I truly congratulate you on your total honesty here, because it's unprecedented and totally welcome.

The problem is, Denilson... that you want EVERY SINGLE white person to conform to your vision of what EVERY SINGLE white person is.... for some reason that some on here don't grasp.

Maybe because you want to justify or make yourself feel better about some traumatic personal experiences you've had in the past.

Or maybe because you've seen the whole spectrum of racism, and it's driven you to believe EVERY SINGLE white person is a racist.

Well look..... racism is in itself a spectrum. I'm no expert, but racist views probably exist somewhere on a scale of say..... 1 to 100, with most people falling somewhere in between.

You've said you prefer the white people closer to 100 (most racist) because at least their views are out there for everyone to see. They are outward and unabashed about their racist views. I can understand that.

I can also understand your saying that those lower on the scale are the most dangerous because they're not outwardly racist..... but have deep rooted beliefs of superiority that drive their decisions and actions. They can appear non-racist to the normal observer.... but they'll stab you on the back any chance they get.

This quote from you:

If a white man said "Look Man. Through out history, everyone has tried sh*tting and oppressing everyone, but now it's our turn and we've been better at it than you and other non white ppl and you'd be crazy if you think we'd wanna give all this sh*t up"


Is what sums up how you feel. You want EVERY SINGLE white person to say this, and admit that's how they really feel.

But I hate to break it to you, Denilson. Not EVERY SINGLE white person on Earth feels this way. Many..... yes. Too many, in fact. It's a behavior borne out of ignorance, like I've been saying to Alpha in my own conversations with him.

Many white people think like me. And I'm not claiming to be a saint by any stretch of the imagination. But like I've said many times before, racism... to me... is one of the most nauseating, disgusting characteristics a person can have.

Call it part of my upbringing. Call it my own life circumstances and experiences. Call it part of my personality. It is what it is.



Racism has soooo many aspects to it, Denilson. The only ones that should matter are the ones that in some way affect, either physically or psychologically or in any other way, shape, or form...... black people.

If a white person sees no color in a person..... does not consider himself superior..... does not discriminate..... does not side with the white guy in every single incident out there...... etc, etc....... then this person is not part of some great conspiracy, Denilson.

Is there systemic racism? Damn straight there is. Only a fool would think otherwise. That's probably the part that hurts you the most. But many of us can see that. Which is something you fail to see when you broad-brush people.



Like I said, I've seen racism up close and personal. I've seen it against not only blacks, but Latinos, Asians, Jews, and other groups. It's ignorance personified.

Alpha said one thing in our conversations I'll bring up now. That there is only the "human race." Unfortunately, you look up race in the dictionary and it'll specify differences in skin color, ethnicities, places of origin, etc. So we gotta deal with the reality of there being many races.

But it's only those people that can truly see people as just one race that are truly devoid of racism.



Anyway, enough ranting for now.

I sincerely hope you'll eventually moderate your views on white people, and keep your views more grounded in reality. For your own peace of mind.

I can't reply to every comment. Because I have not got the time at the moment. But just a few things you wrote.

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Wow. It's taken almost 200 posts (and countless more before "the Comeback" ;D )...... but you've finally come clean about being racist. Well congratulations on that very important first step.

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I've said many times. I know I'm racist. I'm honest about it. That's the difference between you and @Gandalf

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I'm not being facetious, either. I'm being completely honest, because this is new ground we're treading on now. I truly congratulate you on your total honesty here, because it's unprecedented and totally welcome.

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No new ground I'm treading. I've said it many times. Probably to brock.

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The problem is, Denilson... that you want EVERY SINGLE white person to conform to your vision of what EVERY SINGLE white person is.... for some reason that some on here don't grasp.

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And here is where you are messing up and I've said it many times.

Read my words. Instead of trying to read my mind because you come at these posts assuming am trying to persuade you and others

I'm not.

To persauade you need the

1. 1) Appeal to trust
2. 2) Appeal to the head
3. 3) Appeal to the heart

Hitler said you just need the last. My style of writing just appeals to the head. So I know it will not persuade because oersuading whites to give up the benefits of racism, to give up a false pride in their race, to become outcasts from white society, to face their shame and guilt at benefiting from a racist society – all that is way, way, way beyond my powers.

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Maybe because you want to justify or make yourself feel better about some traumatic personal experiences you've had in the past.

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Once again. You are trying to read my mind instead of my words.

You have to show some humility. Racism won’t go away as long as whites are too afraid to just sit down, be honest, and look at why it’s still a problem and actually help find a solution.

No I don’t mean find a solution as in tell black people what to think or think that being nice to a black waitress gets you a medal. I mean genuinely sitting down, looking at themselves and realizing that there’s a whole world out there beyond themselves and their culture, and they don’t have the right to pretend the entire universe was reserved for only them.

Humility.

As long as you just view the situation as a case of "overly emotional black people" which is part of the way you have been taught to think about black ppl. Instead of viewing things from a perspective that doesn’t favor the privilege you (deep in side) are too scared to lose, you won’t have that “Kumbaya” you might ask for.

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Or maybe because you've seen the whole spectrum of racism, and it's driven you to believe EVERY SINGLE white person is a racist.

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You should not be so ego-centric. If you think your not racist then let what I say rub of you. After all you don't get angry at things that don't apply to you. No ?

I think another basic reason why guys like you are always on this "Not all whites" is that whites think of themselves as individuals; you don’t think that you being white has much of anything to do with who and what you are.

You think it’s just something coincidental about yourself, like having red hair or hazel eyes or a birthmark. You don’t see that being in that racial group has a lot to do with your life chances, your psychology, your emotions, your reactions to others, and more.

And so if someone even suggests that their being white MIGHT have some relevance in your life and thinking and behavior by pointing out that white people do this or that, you’re not used to thinking about yourself that way, and so you reject observations about whites “Hey, I’M not like that. I’m a good person! Okay, I’m white, but just because I’m white doesn’t mean I do any of the bad things you’re claiming white people do. Look at me, I’m white, and I don’t do that!” And so on.

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Well look..... racism is in itself a spectrum. I'm no expert, but racist views probably exist somewhere on a scale of say..... 1 to 100, with most people falling somewhere in between.

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Exactly. You think when I say "All whites are racist" I'm saying "All whites are evil horrible people"

Look.

If you can convince ppl you that certain brands of toilet paper to wash your ass are superior to others then what do you think they can do to your mind about groups of people who don't look like you, may not speak your language ?

And that's an advert that runs 365, 24 -7.

Unless you can find some white person that was brought up by wolves or gorillas and they have had no human contact what's so ever, then yes I would say that person could be totally free of any racial bias.

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You've said you prefer the white people closer to 100 (most racist) because at least their views are out there for everyone to see. They are outward and unabashed about their racist views. I can understand that. I can also understand your saying that those lower on the scale are the most dangerous because they're not outwardly racist..... but have deep rooted beliefs of superiority that drive their decisions and actions. They can appear non-racist to the normal observer.... but they'll stab you on the back any chance they get.

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There are three kinds of whites racist

1) White bigots (Those who hate blacks and have views that even most whites would regard as racist)

2) White implicit racists (They don't hate blacks people. They're careful to be politically correct in their speech. They often like to point to some study to prove their point. They say they don't see colour. But they still look down on blacks and stereotype them. They usually do it via some study. They see black people as poor, ghetto, screwed up, as less moral and intelligent. That's ppl like @Gandalf, yourself, @El Kabong Because racism is bad and most whites are not bad people, most whites cannot be racist. So racism is dead. Therefore something must be wrong with black people. Crime, Single Mothers, Pathologies, IQ blah, blah.

3) Whites with integrity (Whites who at least are trying to unlearn their racism. Examples: John Brown, white Freedom Riders, Tim Wise, Robin D Aneglo

At a guess I would say:

10% are white bigots,
85% are white implicit racists and
5% are whites with integrity

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I can't reply to every comment. Because I have not got the time at the moment. But just a few things you wrote.

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Wow. It's taken almost 200 posts (and countless more before "the Comeback" ;D )...... but you've finally come clean about being racist. Well congratulations on that very important first step.

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I've said many times. I know I'm racist. I'm honest about it. That's the difference between you and @Gandalf

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I'm not being facetious, either. I'm being completely honest, because this is new ground we're treading on now. I truly congratulate you on your total honesty here, because it's unprecedented and totally welcome.

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No new ground I'm treading. I've said it many times. Probably to brock.

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The problem is, Denilson... that you want EVERY SINGLE white person to conform to your vision of what EVERY SINGLE white person is.... for some reason that some on here don't grasp.

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And here is where you are messing up and I've said it many times.

Read my words. Instead of trying to read my mind because you come at these posts assuming am trying to persuade you and others

I'm not.

To persauade you need the

1. 1) Appeal to trust
2. 2) Appeal to the head
3. 3) Appeal to the heart

Hitler said you just need the last. My style of writing just appeals to the head. So I know it will not persuade because oersuading whites to give up the benefits of racism, to give up a false pride in their race, to become outcasts from white society, to face their shame and guilt at benefiting from a racist society – all that is way, way, way beyond my powers.

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Maybe because you want to justify or make yourself feel better about some traumatic personal experiences you've had in the past.

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Once again. You are trying to read my mind instead of my words.

You have to show some humility. Racism won’t go away as long as whites are too afraid to just sit down, be honest, and look at why it’s still a problem and actually help find a solution.

No I don’t mean find a solution as in tell black people what to think or think that being nice to a black waitress gets you a medal. I mean genuinely sitting down, looking at themselves and realizing that there’s a whole world out there beyond themselves and their culture, and they don’t have the right to pretend the entire universe was reserved for only them.

Humility.

As long as you just view the situation as a case of "overly emotional black people" which is part of the way you have been taught to think about black ppl. Instead of viewing things from a perspective that doesn’t favor the privilege you (deep in side) are too scared to lose, you won’t have that “Kumbaya” you might ask for.

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Or maybe because you've seen the whole spectrum of racism, and it's driven you to believe EVERY SINGLE white person is a racist.

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You should not be so ego-centric. If you think your not racist then let what I say rub of you. After all you don't get angry at things that don't apply to you. No ?

I think another basic reason why guys like you are always on this "Not all whites" is that whites think of themselves as individuals; you don’t think that you being white has much of anything to do with who and what you are.

You think it’s just something coincidental about yourself, like having red hair or hazel eyes or a birthmark. You don’t see that being in that racial group has a lot to do with your life chances, your psychology, your emotions, your reactions to others, and more.

And so if someone even suggests that their being white MIGHT have some relevance in your life and thinking and behavior by pointing out that white people do this or that, you’re not used to thinking about yourself that way, and so you reject observations about whites “Hey, I’M not like that. I’m a good person! Okay, I’m white, but just because I’m white doesn’t mean I do any of the bad things you’re claiming white people do. Look at me, I’m white, and I don’t do that!” And so on.

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Well look..... racism is in itself a spectrum. I'm no expert, but racist views probably exist somewhere on a scale of say..... 1 to 100, with most people falling somewhere in between.

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Exactly. You think when I say "All whites are racist" I'm saying "All whites are evil horrible people"

Look.

If you can convince ppl you that certain brands of toilet paper to wash your ass are superior to others then what do you think they can do to your mind about groups of people who don't look like you, may not speak your language ?

And that's an advert that runs 365, 24 -7.

Unless you can find some white person that was brought up by wolves or gorillas and they have had no human contact what's so ever, then yes I would say that person could be totally free of any racial bias.

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You've said you prefer the white people closer to 100 (most racist) because at least their views are out there for everyone to see. They are outward and unabashed about their racist views. I can understand that. I can also understand your saying that those lower on the scale are the most dangerous because they're not outwardly racist..... but have deep rooted beliefs of superiority that drive their decisions and actions. They can appear non-racist to the normal observer.... but they'll stab you on the back any chance they get.

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There are three kinds of whites racist

1) White bigots (Those who hate blacks and have views that even most whites would regard as racist)

2) White implicit racists (They don't hate blacks people. They're careful to be politically correct in their speech. They often like to point to some study to prove their point. They say they don't see colour. But they still look down on blacks and stereotype them. They usually do it via some study. They see black people as poor, ghetto, screwed up, as less moral and intelligent. That's ppl like @Gandalf, yourself, @El Kabong Because racism is bad and most whites are not bad people, most whites cannot be racist. So racism is dead. Therefore something must be wrong with black people. Crime, Single Mothers, Pathologies, IQ blah, blah.

3) Whites with integrity (Whites who at least are trying to unlearn their racism. Examples: John Brown, white Freedom Riders, Tim Wise, Robin D Aneglo

At a guess I would say:

10% are white bigots,
85% are white implicit racists and
5% are whites with integrity

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If you think (without knowing me) that I "look down on blacks" and "stereotype them"....... then you're not just racist....... you're an racist asshole.

You see, I don't look down on blacks. I look down on racists, and you.... you sad, twisted fuck..... are the worst kind.

Nice talking to you.

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What's in YOUR wallet?

Tito, I cannot believe you are trying to reason with him. ;D

It is absurd that you are arguing that anyone alive today needs to show 'humility', Dennis. Is it Tito's fault that black people who marry other black people are more likely to divorce and raise kids without fathers? Or carry out violent crime? Or go to prison for child abuse? How is he being racist when he even avoids such topics? You can try and go after me for raising uncomfortable facts, but again it is not racism. It is simply making an observation of something in society. I am interested in social behavior and it is only by raising issues that we raise consciousness and in turn can improve. By living in denial, then nothing improves. Thus we look at personal agency. Should one ignore it all completely and indeed just go full on SJW ignoring reality? No, I think people in any ethnic group have it in them to display agency and it is their duty to raise their children well or else just not have them. That is my approach and I apply it across all ethnic lines. That is indeed one way for black communities to improve their quality of life. It is the kind of thing Candace Owens argues all the time, but she is black so cannot be called racist.

If you know anything about me you will know I have been calling out the same flaws in the white community as well and get heat for it. If you want to discuss IQ you know full well that white people are only in the middle and I do not believe in superiority. Only that some groups perform better on abstract tests of intelligence than others, but that members of any group can and do excel on them. They are a general predictor of good outcomes, but far from absolute. There is no superiority there, more aspiration on my part as I want to make good decisions myself too and even if I cannot push my IQ above 140, will at least learn something new everyday and never harm a child.

I don't admit to being a complete racist because I really do not see myself as such. However, if I know someone has genitally mutilated their child, or abandoned their child, or beaten their child, or carried out a violent crime for a drug habit thus leaving a child neglected etc, then I will call it out as I simply disagree with actions that harm children. Hurt yourself, fine. But if you have it in you to bring children into this world then show a little agency. That is my philosophy. There are good and bad people in any race, but it is bad to ignore clearly bad actors. Those that think they mean well and show humility can themselves be causing more harm than good. I do not agree with that whence being strong willed and not terribly woke.

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Tito, I cannot believe you are trying to reason with him. ;D

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It's that pesky belief in me that I can help the emotional disturbed, Miles. ;D

I'll go through cycles with this idiot. I'll engage for a while, trying to establish meaningful dialogue and reason with the clown. After a while I see nothing but dead ends, as some twisted fucks are truly beyond help, and I hurl a few insults his way.... basically for being a moron. Then I'll go through a poking fun stage, which seems to bother some on here (won't name names)..... and I'll just have a little fun with Denny. Then he'll disappear, presumably to poison other sites with his same racist bullshit. Then he'll pop back in again and we'll go through the same cycle over again. The duration of these vary. If I'm feeling overly optimistic and generous, the serious engagement stage might last a little longer. The insult hurling stage is usually quite short, as I prefer to use ridicule (more fun, too).

The important part to remember here is that Denny is a point waaaaayyy off the curve. Other black people on here probably cringe in total embarrassment every time the jackass types his trash. Unless he's a total recluse, people he associates with probably avoid him like the plague. "Oh no..... here comes that imbecile again." Normal black people would just as soon this jerk move to the Moon.

Why does he persist on this crusade? It's been said before. Because that way he has an easy out for all the failures of his miserable little life. He can blame it all on the white man. He's constructed this whole make-believe universe where ALL WHITE PEOPLE have secret meetings to discuss how to continue oppressing the black man. He can't get anywhere in life, because racist is systemic, and permeates every living being, fills every corner of the Earth. I'm no psychiatrist, but I would've given this guy his money back and referred him to some other unsuspecting mental health victim professional. Either that, or electroshock treatments.

Denny loves his black skin more than anything else in the world. It's his permanent excuse to live in mediocrity and wallow in self-pity. What a fucked up, poor excuse of a human being.

Dennis is very special. I have known plenty of black and Asian people in my life, but Dennis is nothing like any of them. I shared a house for a year with black girl at University and she did not have any of these hangups. I mean she studied well at school, got into University, did a Masters degree, had no issues sharing a house with a bunch of white people, had no issues finding work to help pay for the costs of the then increasingly expensive tertiary education. I hear from Dennis that she must have been scared to talk about her horrific racist experiences because of our evil white presence, but if you were really bothered by a bunch of white men you wouldn't live with them to begin with. She did not have the hang ups Dennis did.

I might point out IQ data, but I also constantly point out that many people will be way above average and do very well like she did and the black professors I have come across. Why are they not making excuses constantly? It is because they have agency and have made decisions that make sense. Denilson is a funny one and so 21st century with all the pictures and flipping from one point to the next so randomly, but then he will flip it and deny that race exists, so if he wants it that way, then he might as well deny that race exists and stop going on about it.

It clearly does exist and there are statistical group differences, but I honestly don't see an issue with that. You must have a serious chip on your shoulder to be threatened by the notion that people might have higher IQ's than others, or that somebody else might be better than you at something. We are all inferior to someone else in some way or another and we have to get used to it or else work on it. Damn, 1970'S Al Pacino was better looking than me. Where is the noose? James Toney even approaching 50 could knock me out. Damn, where is the rat poison. Just life and the way it is.

Denny claims there is systemic racism.

Up to that point I don't necessarily disagree with him. There are plenty of white people in positions of power throughout industry and politics who, through their policies and decision-making, make it extremely difficult for blacks to achieve many things in life. It's under those conditions that certain blacks manage to ascend in spite of the prejudice and discrimination and somehow achieve the standards of living they desire. These individuals should be admired, because their achievements have been again... in spite of.... adverse conditions aimed at keeping them down because of their skin color.

But then Denny goes off half cocked and conjures up this global conspiracy theory bullshit where he childishly broad-brushes every single human being on this Earth. This from a 30-year old who likely has very limited travel experience, and knows squat about most of the people and cultures around the world. That's where he begins to come apart at the seams.

If he had the gumption and personality to conjure up a group of black people, and began his rant..... he'd probably have quite a few interested people listening to him for a while. But as he delved further and further into his obsessions and fantasies about how racism is globally set up and rigged to keep the black man down, people would begin losing interested and walking off shaking their heads. Denny would go on about his tiger analogies and the group would thin out severely. In the end there would be no one left, because there are nut jobs of every color, and Denny is a nut job of the worst kind.

Denny does a disservice to the real cause of racism. Good thing he has zero voice and zero influence in society.

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If you think (without knowing me) that I "look down on blacks" and "stereotype them"....... then you're not just racist....... you're an racist asshole.

You see, I don't look down on blacks. I look down on racists, and you.... you sad, twisted fuck..... are the worst kind.

Nice talking to you.

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Well that's what you are telling me.

Look.

All white people say they're not racist.

The denial of racism is essential to it's maintenance.

But guess what ?

That's always been the case

In 1963 whites told Gallup polls that blacks were treated equally in their communities.

• This in the same year that Medgar Evers was shot down dead in his driveway in Jackson.
• This in the same year that Bull Connor plowed tanks through the black community and hosed down children in Birmingham.
• This in the same year that 4 young black girls were murdered at the 16th Street Baptist Church there and George Wallace gave his “segregation forever’” speech.

In 1962, most whites said that black children had just as good a chance to get a good education as white children.

Even in the 60s when Dr King was around. Yeah sure, he's seen as a saint now but bk when he was alive, most whites hated him and most whites said blacks would be better off just “taking advantage of the opportunities they have already been given” as opposed to protesting and even after Dr King passed away whites said that blacks had a better chance than they did to get a good paying job.

What can you say about a group of people so utterly divorced from reality at one of the most fked up periods in American history ?

So do you think I'm going to take seriously the perceptions on group of people who have run up a bad track record ?

In every era, black folks said they were the victims of racism and we were right. In every era, whites have said the problem was exaggerated, and you have been wrong.