I would get those carotids checked.....
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I would get those carotids checked.....
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must have hit a nerve, titofan is posting his memes again, doesn't like the fact that he has been proven wrong yet again
You know... I feel kinda bad making you look like an ass.
So let's break this down.
Ok so I said, GGG has fought his entire career at middleweight... and you pointed out that once he fought at super middle because he fought at 163 pounds.
So to you, once 3 pounds over 160 in 43 career fights constitutes not having fought at middleweight his entire career.
Cool.
To me, it still does.
And I believe to most post-pubescent adults, they understand the same.
If you need to have the word "basically" added as a qualifier in order to understand... there's little I can do to help you there.
You do realize, right? that it is pretty much a child-like technique to latch onto an insignificant detail when you've got no argument.
Just wanted to point that out.
It's like... you just got slammed on the tennis court. But you're claiming some sort of victory because the guy who whipped your ass just tripped over the ball bucket on his way back to the locker room.
Maybe not the best analogy... but you get the point.
See it's like this....
If you've spent your whole life being an ass..... and one day you say or do something "non-asslike"..... and I say you've spent your whole life being an ass..... technically I'm not wrong.
Not sure if you followed me there.
I can go slower if you'd like.
I'd like to get back to the topic at hand... the actual fight.
For the reasons above, I believe GGG has two chances against Ginger... SLIM and NONE.
It'll be a knockout win for Ginger... and he gets zero credit from me. After GGG he needs to get back to fighting young guys his own size.
you have made yourself look foolish. fighting once at super middleweight makes your claim, the fact is ggg has fought at one sixty for his entire career. that claim is wrong. it is not a fact & it is the very reason you haven't answered what weight division would one sixty three within. because you know it is within the super middleweight division & because of that fact then your claim is wrong. adding the word basically is not the same is claiming something is a fact, most people understand this. my point about your false claim has nothing to do with you thinking ggg is over the hill & me disagreeing, two different things. you making a claim that was wrong is a different argument to the canelo v ggg match up
I'm going to go with Alvarez by ko well tko to be exact, I think the body punches will add up on Golovkin and it'll end around the tenth..I do think Golovkin is going to do quite a bit better than many expect especially Hearn and dazn, he could well have beaten Alvarez twice already so I think he has his number, I don't think Golovkin is finished either but he is 40 and the Murata performance was worrying at times so I think the heavy body shots will end him..I think it'd be a good win for Alvarez if he manages it, Golovkin is still one of the best out there, don't think it's an amazing win or anything like that, I think Alvarez's other wins at 168 rank higher than this potential win..
I think it's also going to make pretty good viewing, Golovkin is a top class Operator after all but I am expecting an Alvarez win. It'll be a bit like Joshua beating other Kazak born Klitschko, different stages of their careers of course( Joshua and Alvarez), but I think Wladimir would have beaten Joshua when wlad was younger but he wasn't and he lost and it was a good win for Joshua despite the other guy being over 40
ggg is not a bonafide super middleweight. ggg has fought once at super middleweight. where is your proof that ggg is not comfortable at one sixty eight? i remember ggg being interested in fights with julio cesar chavez jr & carl froch at one sixty eight but they never came together. canelo has fought twice at light heavyweight. i agree canelo is probably better acclimatized to super middleweight, probably his true weight. i disagree it's a size mismatch. ggg is forty & i agree he is no longer in his prime. canelo has lost two decisions in vegas. i thought ggg won the first fight & canelo won the second. i don't think it's unrealistic to expect to win a decision against canelo. canelo lost a decision in his last fight. i disagree that ggg's only chance is by knockout. canelo's chin is already a proven commodity. i think this is a difficult fight for canelo. i am picking canelo to win by knockout but don't think it'll be easy. i'll give canelo credit for defeating a tough fighter & someone i think is a tough fight for anyone around the weight. after ggg i'll wait to see where canelo goes
A little bit like Joshua, because of the age involved. But some might consider that to be Joshua's best win. At the time it "one-upped" Fury's maddeningly boring UD over Wlad. Still, no other factors other than age were at play. They were both bonafide heavyweights with no significant size advantage to either side. The fight was at Wembley Stadium, but it did end in a TKO, leaving the judges out of the equation. It was the one and only time they fought, so there was no questionable decision baggage to sift through.
I like Golovkin, and have always been a fan. But right now he's benefitting from slim pickings at 160, combined with the four alphabet orgs, of which at least one of them has relative riff-raff at the top contender list. As you said, the Murata fight was worrying at times. My way of saying it is that it showed GGG is pretty much past his prime. Golovkin is ripe for the picking, and is being handed on a silver platter to Canelo.
Then there's this. ;) ;)
BTW, let me go on record by saying it doesn't reach the 8th round. I don't usually predict rounds, and GGG may very well pleasantly surprise me (early Xmas gift for me)... but the old man's ripe for the picking, and Ginger doesn't have to worry about losing a decision (proven fact). He'll go at GGG with abandon and the full confidence of outweighing Golovkin by 10-15 pounds by fight night. TKO for Ginger before the 8th round.
in regards to primo carnera's post the plan that i am aware of was always dmitry & then ggg next. who else would you choose to pick ggg off next? canelo does have to worry about losing a decision, as he lost his last fight by decision, proven fact. we'll have to weight until fight night to see if in ring weights are posted. i still favour canelo by knockout in eleven or twelve or a close decision either way
The rivalry between Gennady Golovkin and Canelo Alvarez has been ongoing for many years. The pair always seemed destined to collide in one way or another and now, as we approach their third and likely final meeting, it appears as if their feud has become more bitter than ever before.
In addition to the pair wanting to be known as the superior boxer, they’ve also been trading some personal shots at one another through press conferences and a variety of interviews. Of course, Canelo is the one who has the bragging rights at this moment in time, given that he holds one win over GGG with their initial meeting being a draw.
Still, that hasn’t stopped Golovkin from letting the world know what he thinks about the Mexican sensation, as he did once again during a recent interview.
“When someone is unable to see reality, that is his problem, it says a lot about him. His behavior at the press conference shows how insecure he is, how he still lives in illusions about the situation, the stories. He drew his own conclusions based on the first press conference. His behavior was different in the second. He analyzed that he looked ridiculous [in the first one]. For a fighter of this caliber, someone who wants to be great, shows that he still needs to grow, he needs to learn a lot. He is far from being the best,” Golovkin said.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...a2b296d34d9cc4
You haven't taken enough punishment and want to keep poking the bear? :D Suit yourself.
In 43 professional fights, Golovkin fought at 160 for 42 of them.
In ONE professional fight he fought at 163, technically above the MW limit and in the SMW category. (Still well below the SWM limit of 168 ).
In my opinion (and that of most adults), that can be accurately described as GGG having fought at middleweight his entire career. FACT.
For pouty nitpicky brats who throw tantrums and have to pick on insignificant details to make an asinine point..... GGG's lone fight at 163 constitutes that desperate little moral victory which is akin to a little gold sticky star and smilie on a kindergarten student's notebook so he can take it home and brag about it.
Let's recap.
My position: GGG has fought practically all his career at 160 and thus has a huge disadvantage against Ginger, who has fought as high as 175.
Your position: Because GGG fought once at 163, he's a bonafide SMW and has no disadvantage going into the fight with Ginger.
spergy larry it is not my claim that ggg weighed in within the super middleweight division, that is the story that is being presented but i can choose to believe that information, anyone can believe whatever they like. titofan has also admitted that he also believes that ggg weighed in at one sixty three, so he is contradicting himself when he states that it's a fact that ggg fought at one sixty his entire career
Even matchup
Ginger wins by mid-round KO.
He should go into the fight as a 1/100 favorite.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/08...edict-outcome/
"Canelo Alvarez Vs. Gennadiy Golovkin III: Pros Predict Outcome"
... "Golovkin hasn’t looked good in his last four fights since losing to Canelo (57-2, 39 KOs) by a controversial 12 round majority decision in 2018.
Rather than continuing to fight quality opposition, Golovkin has been taking tune-ups while seemingly waiting for the big payday he’d get in the trilogy match with Canelo.
Now that Golovkin has finally gotten what he’s been waiting for, he looks old and ill-equipped to win against Canelo."...
THIS!
A hundred times over.
Reason # 101 Why Golovkin Has NO CHANCE Against Ginger:
Dave Moretti and Steven Weisfeld
Both judges scored the Bivol fight 115-113, a razor-thin decision in what was a boxing lesson from Bivol to Ginger.
dave moretti scored the first canelo v ggg fight for ggg
Hey, had to type that bold red phrase in there as, after all, this is boxing, where 1 punch could change --- instantly --- the best laid plans. GGG still hits hard enough despite Cinnamon's chin, and so gotta keep that outcome, albeit remote, in there. Power is the last thing to go.
You do have a point. Although I think the chances of Golovkin knocking Ginger out are about 0.40 percent.
For him to go for the knockout, he's gonna have to leave himself vulnerable to Ginger's shots... and who knows how many "special" beefsteaks Ginger has feasted on in the last few months.
"Special" beefsteaks has to be one of the funniest phrases ever used on this forum; if I had been eating or drinking when I read that, no doubt I would have spat it all over the room. I imagine him sitting down in a restaurant and nonchalantly telling the waiter in Guadalajara to give him one of the "special" beefsteaks, as he proudly lifts his chin up in the air and glances around to see if anyone heard him.
Yeah, so is that 4% or literally .4% (meaning 96% he will not smoke canelo, or 99.6% he will not smoke canelo?)
If I had to give it a percent, it's a little bit tough and true he will have to open up which will leave him vulnerable to canelo, but maybe optimistically I will give triple G a 15% chance of making that knockout happen.
But let's be realistic. That means I'm giving him an 85% chance of NOT getting a knockout. Which then leaves only two options for an outcome: a decision, or he himself gets knocked out.
Undisputed super-middleweight champion Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez says he wants to send Gennady Golovkin into retirement after their trilogy fight in Las Vegas.
The bitter rivals fight on 17 September four years after Alvarez narrowly beat Golovkin on points in their rematch.
Golovkin turned 40 earlier this year and speaking to BBC Sport, Alvarez was asked whether he wanted to retire the Kazakh after their fight.
"I don't like that guy," he says "Yes, that's my goal."
Golovkin and Alvarez, 32, have developed a bitter rivalry since their first fight, which produced a controversial split draw decision.
As well as accusing Alvarez of running from their third fight, Golovkin has repeatedly referenced a six-month doping ban the Mexican served in 2018.
"It's personal because he talked a lot of things about me all these years, so that's why it's personal for me," Alvarez says.
'When he's in front of me he doesn't say anything'
Speaking from his gym in San Diego, Alvarez, who has won world titles in four divisions, cuts a relaxed figure, with a boxing ring just a few feet behind him. He is lucid, articulate and lights up when talking about golf.
"A beautiful sport," he says. "When you make birdies, you make eagles, when you hit a really good shot - that feeling is amazing."
He says he has several favourite golfers including Northern Irishman and four-time major winner Rory McIlory.
"Wow, he has a great swing and he's a very good golfer. I follow him on Instagram," says Alvarez, who only follows 174 people on the social media platform.
However, his mood darkens when Golovkin is mentioned.
Golovkin has had a glittering boxing career and was a two-time unified champion but Alvarez has no time for his opponent.
When asked why he doesn't like Golovkin, Alvarez says, to paraphrase slightly, that his opponent talks a lot of rubbish.
"When he's in front of me, he doesn't say anything - 'I respect him, I respect his career and this and this' - but what about what you've been saying in interviews and in other places?"
The pound-for-pound great is counting down the days until he and 'GGG' begin what will be the 25th round of their rivalry - but unlike the two previous fights with Golovkin, Alvarez does not expect this one to go the distance.
"I think I'm going to end him before the 12th round. I'm going to put all my boxing skills, all my experience in boxing to get this done," he predicts.
Alvarez is coming off a loss to WBA champion Dmitry Bivol at light-heavyweight, with the Russian claiming a unanimous victory in May.
That was only Alvarez's second loss in professional boxing, with the other defeat coming against Floyd Mayweather in 2013.
But Alvarez is not fazed by the defeat and even suggests it has made him a bigger threat.
"I am a more dangerous fighter right now because of my loss. I'm just different right now since the last fight. I am more mature, stronger, and more confident," he says.
"I want to try again [at light-heavyweight]. Right now, I'm 100% focused on Golovkin and then that's what I'm looking to do next year in May."
The third fight with Golovkin will be Alvarez's 62nd professional bout having started his career as a 15-year-old but he has no plans to slow down.
"My body is going to tell me and I feel in my prime right now, so my body will tell me when it's time to leave the gloves," he says.
"Right now I feel great, I feel my best. I always think 36 or 37 is enough for me but you never know."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/62579265
James Toney told ESNews: “Triple G. He loses to Triple G.
“Canelo is a good fighter. I’m not hating on the kid. I would have washed up Canelo in two or three rounds.
“If you stand in front of me and try those moves? I’m the kind of guy that stands in front of you and makes you miss and counters your a**. He can’t do it. He tries it.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...f85aa512482f1c
Juan Manuel Marquez has predicted Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez will knock out Gennady Golovkin when they meet in their trilogy fight later this month.
“It’s motivating for Canelo to have lost to Bivol, because another defeat for a fighter like him would not be good,” Marquez told Marca.
“In the second fight with Golovkin he showed that he can beat him in the center of the ring, in the second fight he deciphered his style and he’s going to beat him.
“By speed, counter punches and combinations, so he’s not going to withstand the onslaught of the Mexican.
“Canelo is going to win by knockout.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...8cae4040e872bb
JMM is right about the outcome. But not for the reasons he stated. Regardless... it'll be a mid-round slaughter.
Really is surprising how under the radar this has been and low key rolled out. Even though it's passed shelf life etc well it is Canelo :-X. Just 10 days out and all I'm seeing is lots of Alycia Baumgardner vs Mikaela Mayer and the Shields-Marshall card. Really want Golovkin to pull it off and want to see Bam Rodriquez, but just cannot do it.
Yes it would be very spectacular if GGG could pull it off
aul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin will complete their incredible trilogy next weekend as Las Vegas hosts the huge title fight.
The great foes battled out two thrilling clashes in 2017 and 2018 with the first being ruled a draw before Canelo took the second.
Their rivalry has been one of the best in modern day boxing but fans have had to wait for a third and final clash.
Now, they will go toe-to-toe once again under the lights in Sin City and it should be thriller.
Canelo, who lost to Dmitry Bivol in his WBA light heavyweight title bout in May, will put his super middleweight titles on the line.
Golovkin has only fought four times since his defeat to the Mexican and beat Ryota Murata in Japan most recently.
The 12-round super-middleweight title clash will be held on Saturday, September 17.
It is taking place at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.
The card will get going at 1am on Sunday morning UK time with Canelo vs Golovkin expected from 5am.
The fight will be broadcast live on DAZN – the streaming service costs £7.99 per month, you can sign up HERE.
It can be streamed via the DAZN app and can be viewed on smart TVs, game consoles, connected devices, mobile, tablets and computers.
MAIN EVENT: Canelo Alvarez vs Gennady Golovkin – for WBA (Super), WBC, IBF, WBO, and The Ring super middleweight titles
Jesse Rodriguez Franco vs Israel Gonzalez – for WBC super flyweight title
Ali Akhmedov vs Gabriel Rosado
Austin Williams vs Kieron Conway
Diego Pacheco vs Enrique Collazo
Marc Castro vs Kevin Montiel Mendoza
Aaron Aponte vs Fernando Angel Molina
Anthony Herrera vs Delvin McKinley
Canelo: “I risk everything to keep making history when I don’t need to risk anything. I’ve already achieved so many things. I’m in a position where I don’t have to risk anything, and I still do it.
“Nobody does that when they are in a position like the one I’m in.
“Tell me another fighter who is trying that in other categories, going down and up in weight.
“It’s always been very personal with Gennady. That will never go away. After we finished the two fights, it still feels [very personal).
“He has never stopped talking about me. If you see, I never mentioned his name.
“I’ve always been in his mouth, he’s always talked about me, and that makes it even more personal.
“The fact that there is this rivalry puts an extra element there. It makes me train harder. I try harder. Personally, I sometimes feel better that it exists.”
Canelo has also promised he will end Golovkin’s career: “That’s my goal. That’s my goal for this fight. No disrespect for him. He’s a great fighter. He’s one of the best middleweights in boxing history. But that’s what I train for. My goal is to end his career, his great career.
“I feel hungry. I always train 100%. This is no exception. I feel motivated. I just can’t wait to be in the ring.”
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1...ash-las-vegas/
All in or nothing isn’t it. Not like there’s a rebirth of tomorrow’s for an old stubborn warrior so take the night as your own and crash the gate. He’s waited around long enough for it to come and some truths remain..Canelo is older too. He’s taken more damage last out than previous 3 or 4 and the higher you are on top of the world, a tumbling fall on the brightest stage has played with many a top fighters mind before. Make Canelo doubt and have no faith in anyone (judges) but yourself.