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Gennady Golovkin says draw with Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez is 'bad for the sport'
Gennady Golovkin said his controversial draw with Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez in the world middleweight title fight on Saturday was "bad for the sport".
After a closely fought bout in Las Vegas, one judge scored it 118-110 for Alvarez, another 115-113 for Golovkin and the third a 114-114 draw.
Kazakh Golovkin, 35, retained his WBA, WBC and IBF titles and remains unbeaten in 38 fights.
"It's terrible, for me it's terrible. This is not correct," said Golovkin.
"I saw the computer, the total punches and I saw people's reaction."
Golovkin added that he "wants a rematch" and Alvarez also confirmed he would face Golovkin again if "that's what people want".
According to statistics, Golovkin landed more punches overall but judge Adalaide Byrd had Alvarez as a clear winner, Dave Moretti scored the bout for Golovkin and Dan Trella had the fighters level.
Byrd's scorecard has since received heavy criticism after she awarded Alvarez 10 of the 12 rounds and a portion of the crowd at the T-Mobile Arena booed when the decision was announced.
But Mexican Alvarez felt he had done enough to take the middleweight titles away from Golovkin.
He started and finished the fight the stronger, and also produced some of the more eye-catching shots.
"I didn't base it on the scorecard, I wasn't taking points round-by-round but what I am sure of at the end of the fight was that I won," said the 27-year-old.
"I have no doubt in my mind, I won the fight."
Alvarez's record now stands at 49 wins (34 KO), two draws and one defeat from 52 fights.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/41302368
I love Marvin Hagler, and to my mind he is the best middleweight I've ever seen.Quote:
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BUT, Brock, don't forget he also had moments of weakness.
He started off strangely tentatively against Duran (just like GGG did this weekend), he also inexplicably came out southpaw against Leonard and gave him the first few rounds too.
His 'canelo' moment, though, was in his first world title shot against Vito Antuofermo. He came out slow and did allow the inferior fighter to seem to outhustle him to a controversial draw.
Hagler was (and is) overrated.
Right, I have calmed down a bit now so I can give my more rational thoughts on this fight
First, and most importantly ...... I really enjoyed the fight. Two elite level boxers going at it hammer and tongs, giving their best, respecting the opponent and leaving nothing behind in the ring.
I thought Canelo was superb. That was the best performance I've seen from him, and he proved to me that he is the real thing.
He definitely started better, he was calmer and more confident at the beginning and his boxing skills were excellent. He definitely did not look the smaller man in there at all.
I criticised his slow feet before the fight, but it was his smart footwork that made GGG follow him for the first 5 rounds rather than effectively cut off the ring.
He feinted and drew Golovkin superbly, and he had the technique to land easily the more eye catching shots. His hands were noticeably faster that GGG's too, and when he unloaded in combinations it was truly impressive. It did seem that (at times) he could hit Golovkin at will. He was never really hurt and showed a great chin.
I thought Golovkin looked very tense entering the ring, and he also started off strangely tentatively. All the talk of him implicitly trusting his chin and walking through people was clearly wrong as he did seem to have a bit too much respect for Canelos power early on.
By the 4th round, though, he had found his groove. He started to cut the ring off and he applied truly MASSIVE pressure on Canelo. He was in front of Alvarez for three minutes of every round, even running towards him on several occasions. This put Canelo into pure survival mode for large parts of the fight and I think he gassed out for most of the middle period.
GGG was absolutely relentless. The pressure was unbelievable. Alvarez landed his Sunday shots on him several times - and those are the same shots that have iced his previous opponents - and Golovkin didn't budge. Unbelieviable chin.
I thought Golovkin swept the 4th to the 10th pretty conclusively. He pressured, threw punches and landed more shots on an overwhelmed opponent. Canelo tried to survive and steal rounds, no shame in that but I really don't think he did enough.
Canelo saved some gas for a good finish, and I think his hand speed edged the last couple of rounds.
After an excellent fight, full value of money and conducted by two great pros .....neither guy had been seriously shaken or hurt .... and we were in that well-known territory whereby we had rounds that were quite divisive to score.
This was almost deja vu to Hagler versus Leonard.
We had a blue collar, fearsome destroyer who has dominated their division for years. Someone who never got the breaks on the way up and was constantly avoided...... versus the media darling moving up a weight, with flashy skills and the ability to generate many more ticket sales,
I thought GGG won the fight by two or three rounds, but that's maybe because I was already a big GGG fan and I was a bit biased. In that case, even if I conceded a couple of rounds to Canelo that I had awarded to GGG I accept it was a close fight. It definitely wasn't a 118-110 fight for either guy.
Strangely enough, this was the ideal result for GGG.
He is still the champion, still undefeated and with a much wider fan base now, probably included many New Mexican ones. If he had lost, he would never ever had a rematch as De la Hoya would have wanted no part of him.
If he had won, I still don't think he would have got Canelo back in the ring
Now, he most likely has fans clamouring for a rematch against the biggest PPV star out there. A guy he knows can't hurt him, who can't keep up with his relentless pace. Big money. Start faster and better and he can make the rematch a big drama show.
Before this fight, would GGG have sacrificed a draw, with many people giving him the moral victory, in return for a massive boost to his fan base and the opportunity to make another £15 million? I think so
sorry for the long post!
Judge from Golovkin-Alvarez fight won't face formal sanction
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/more-...cid=spartandhp
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Great post and I have to think hard to name some other fighters who can walk through shots that Golovkin can take.
He's like a Terminator
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Your boy got KO'ed last week so back to the MMA or gay porn forum's for you cock muncher X
Wind your neck in Gamo, there won't be a second warning.
That's exactly what happened. Byrd did exactly what she was supposed to do with that card. Vegas is proud of her. Another massive event next Cinco.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Boxing judge Adalaide Byrd, who brought the sport into disrepute following Gennady Golovkin's title match with Canelo Alvarez, will not score a major title fight in the near future, the Nevada Athletic Commission has confirmed.
Many have called for the suspension of Byrd after she scored the world middleweight title fight 118-110 in favour of Mexican Alvarez, despite Golovkin landing significantly more punches than his opponent.
The other two judges scored the bout at 115-113 and 114-114 respectively, with many pointing to corruption as the reason behind Byrd's ludicrously lopsided scorecard.
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Byrd was reportedly in tears after learning of the furore her judgment had caused on Saturday evening, and Bob Bennett, the Nevada Athletic Commission executive director revealed she will not be considered for upcoming bouts.
'I'm not going to put her right back in,' Bennett told the Los Angeles Times.
'She'll still be in the business … but she needs to catch her breath. Like in any profession, you have a bad night.
'Unfortunately, she didn't do well. I can tell you she conducts training for us, takes judges under her wing… but her score was too wide.'
Golovkin and Alvarez are all set for a rematch following their controversial draw, with both fighters open to the prospect when asked after the final bell at the T-Mobile Arena.
The Mexican boxer's promoter, Oscar De La Hoya, revealed that his fighter had a clause built into his fight contract and he intends to invoke it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...sciplined.html
what about the judge that scored it a draw?
is he getting banned?
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nowhere near a drawQuote:
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Really? What was your scorecardQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44nowhere near a drawQuote:
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I haven't got oneQuote:
Originally Posted by GaMoReally? What was your scorecardQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44nowhere near a drawQuote:
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