Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
Today's PAC update:
Freddie Roach initially thought Mike Alvarado, an unbeaten super-lightweight from Denver, would give Manny Pacquiao fits in sparring.
Alvarado proved Roach wrong when Pacquiao finally got his hands in their initial encounter at the Wild Card Boxing Club in Hollywood on Tuesday afternoon.
“He (Alvarado) was nervous,” Roach said. Alvarado’s arrival had been much-anticipated since Pacquiao had been toying with every sparring partner thrown against him every Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.
A former wrestling star, Alvarado has a 25-0 win-loss record with 18 knockouts, including his last five fights, and is being groomed for stardom, having been signed by no less than Hall of Fame promoter Bob Arum to beef up Top Rank’s galaxy of stars.
Roach said Pacquiao sparred three rounds with Alvarado then racked up three each from lightweight prospect Urbano Antillon and 19-year-old Philly welterweight Raymond Serrano, who has a 9-0 ledger with five stoppages.
Also on call is David Rodela, a perennial Pacquiao sparmate.
On Thursday (Friday in Manila), Pacquiao will do 10 rounds, according to Roach, who remains optimistic that Hatton will not go past three rounds when the rugged Briton finally gets a taste of Pacquiao’s blinding speed and paralyzing (left hand) power.
Although Pacquiao didn’t report for training on Wednesday, Roach said he did his early-morning roadwork under the strict supervision of strength coach and nutritionist Alex Ariza and Michael Moorer, who is Roach’s eyes and ears whenever he is not in Pacquiao’s presence.
“Manny’s doing fine and he’s where I like him to be at this time,” said Roach, noting that his ward tips the scales at 147 lbs.
With a little over three weeks remaining before the match, Pacquiao has enough time to get down to the agreed weight limit of 140 lbs, a weight class that Pacquiao has never fought in.
Still, Roach is upbeat that 140 lbs will be Pacquiao’s perfect weight class and that he’d be deadlier at this level.
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Prefight fun fact stats!!
Total posts on this thread so far 690
Total posts by Saddoboxer on this thread so far 206
30% of all posts on here are from Saddoboxer that means roughly
1 in every 3 posts on a 40 plus page thread are from one person!!
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I've just checked those who posted in this thread and I only have a total of 204 postings... Killa, you added 2 extra postings...;D You there huh...
I created this thread to discuss the PAC-Hatton fight specially the big possibility that PAC will dish out the worst beating ever on Hatton...
I posted fight updates on this thread and that explains the 204 postings... So if you want news about the PAC-Hatton fight, check this thread from time to time... (Specially those craving for news favoring PAC...;D )
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Bloody hell! Never realised I had posted that much.
Bruce, you need to do some of your speciality spamming, you will make the top 10 in no time! :p;D
miles, you are the guy on the other side of the fence of saddoboxer. you do seem to be pretty hype up about this fight yourself lol.
but really, pac inflicting the worst beating on hatton would depend on whether ricky will be the hitman or the missman on the ring come fight night. simple as that.
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After watching his fight vs Collazo I have certain doubts. I hope Mayweather Sr. has seen that fight carefully to adjust certain things in Hatton's defense. Collazo doesn't hit as hard as Pac and did some damage to Hatton. Imagine if those punches were coming from Pac :-\.
The few body punches that Pac started receiving vs Marquez on the second fight during round 8 seem to do its thing. Hatton is a better, faster, and more effective body puncher. Imagine if those punches came from Hatton.
Hhhhhmmmm...I see some pros/cons with each of them. Can't really say much about defense. Reason why BOTH end up with cuts, bloody faces, etc. after almost every fight.
I want Hatton to win all the way but I somehow give Pac the slighter edge :-\.
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Freddie Roach thoughts on PAC-Hatton fight:
"To stand in front of Ricky, that's not our plan. The best way to fight Manny is the way [Juan Manuel] Marquez fought him. I expect Ricky to be better than Oscar was at this point. He is younger, fresher."
"We'll make the weight a lot easier. Then again Ricky will be the bigger guy. But bigger and stronger does not win fights."
"Manny's abilities to bounce laterally are key. Yes, he feared Oscar for three rounds. The bigger, stronger guy. If you stand in front of Ricky Hatton, he'll have success."
"We can't use the exact same strategy as we did against Oscar. Hatton is more adaptable. And maybe he won't be so aggressive against Manny. Maybe he will have been instilled with things from Floyd Mayweather."
"I know how to fight Manny Pacquiao, and what styles trouble him. Boxers don't give him trouble. Marquez, yes, but he's just smart.
He goes with the flow. Thinks his way through."
"Manny's not like that. Ricky's not like that. Ricky gets hit - he wants to fight. Manny gets hit - he wants to fight. They revert back to what the do best. If you hit Manny, he claps his hands together and away he goes."
"Ricky - I respect him. His Dad - I respect him. They are great people. I have nothing against Floyd, but he likes to make poems up about me. "
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Freddie Roach thoughts on PAC-Hatton fight:
"To stand in front of Ricky, that's not our plan. The best way to fight Manny is the way [Juan Manuel] Marquez fought him. I expect Ricky to be better than Oscar was at this point. He is younger, fresher."
"We'll make the weight a lot easier. Then again Ricky will be the bigger guy. But bigger and stronger does not win fights."
"Manny's abilities to bounce laterally are key. Yes, he feared Oscar for three rounds. The bigger, stronger guy. If you stand in front of Ricky Hatton, he'll have success."
"We can't use the exact same strategy as we did against Oscar. Hatton is more adaptable. And maybe he won't be so aggressive against Manny. Maybe he will have been instilled with things from Floyd Mayweather."
"I know how to fight Manny Pacquiao, and what styles trouble him. Boxers don't give him trouble. Marquez, yes, but he's just smart.
He goes with the flow. Thinks his way through."
"Manny's not like that. Ricky's not like that. Ricky gets hit - he wants to fight. Manny gets hit - he wants to fight. They revert back to what the do best. If you hit Manny, he claps his hands together and away he goes."
"Ricky - I respect him. His Dad - I respect him. They are great people. I have nothing against Floyd, but he likes to make poems up about me. "
I just can't picture Hatton fighting like Marquez. No freaking way. Hatton is a come-forward-I-don't-care-what-will-happen-next fighter, and he will get a lot by most Pac's power shots.
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Hatton has exercised caution and ability to fight smart numerous times, especially prior to the Kostya bout. Since then he has been too gung ho, but has showed glimpses of his boxing skills. For the opening rounds against Urango Hatton boxed quite beautifully, a shame the second half wasn't so fun but Hatton was sick prior to the fight. We saw echoes of that against Paulie too, however it was Malignaggi spoiling with the holding this time.
Hatton can box when he sets his mind to it, and his mindset seems headed that way. I personally want to see smart boxing, but also really taking it to Manny when the opportunities present themselves.
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Wow...I cant believe this thread has kept on going all this time.
Look like SaddoBoxer done a good job of keeping this alive. Boy is still getting owned when me and Hatton double team him and Mrs Pacquiao in a few weeks.
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Wow...I cant believe this thread has kept on going all this time.
Look like SaddoBoxer done a good job of keeping this alive. Boy is still getting owned when me and Hatton double team him and Mrs Pacquiao in a few weeks.
Welcome back bro.
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Wow...I cant believe this thread has kept on going all this time.
Look like SaddoBoxer done a good job of keeping this alive. Boy is still getting owned when me and Hatton double team him and Mrs Pacquiao in a few weeks.
Good to have you back buddy. :p
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I'm a firm believer that the fight between Hatton and Mayweather could of had a real chance of having a different outcome at 140. I think he's far more durable at this weight and it would suprise me very much if he was rocked like against PBF. For me thats a huge part of whats so great about this, we're getting to see Hatton fight a P4P fighter at the weight he should be at.
Very hard to decide the winner here cause all I can see if flashbacks of Tszyu fight....But I still say Pac by tough decision..
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Wow...I cant believe this thread has kept on going all this time.
Look like SaddoBoxer done a good job of keeping this alive. Boy is still getting owned when me and Hatton double team him and Mrs Pacquiao in a few weeks.
We need you here tho miles already keeping me on check all the time on this thread ... ;)
Welcome back mate Lefty... and eat this... :lolhaha:
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Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
More bad news for Team Hatton ... ;)
Pacquiao knocks down sparmate with body shot
April 12, 2009, 5:19pm
Alex Ariza raved so much about the current condition of Manny Pacquiao that the conditioning coach could not come up with anything bad about the progress of the Filipino fighter’s training for the May 2 showdown with Ricky Hatton.
“He’s a juggernaut,” Ariza told the Bulletin yesterday from Los Angeles. Ariza has been presiding over Pacquiao’s strength training at the Wild Card Boxing Club the past several weeks that there’s no doubt in his mind that Pacquiao would prove one thing come fight night.
“Manny’s lethal at this weight division (140 lbs) and he’s going to show that he’s the stronger guy,” said Ariza when told about the common knowledge among aficionados that the British bomber packs more power.
“I will not go as far as saying what Freddie (Roach) said about a third-round knockout but Manny’s been unstoppable right now.” On Saturday afternoon (yesterday morning in Manila), Pacquiao went 10 rounds with three sparring partners, according to Ariza, who supervises Pacquiao’s morning roadwork, his nutrition and plyometrics session, a high-grade form of calisthenics.
“Manny had four rounds with Urbano Antillon, then three with (Raymond) Serrrano and three with David Rodela, who went down from a body shot.” Ariza said Pacquiao weighed 149 lbs last week and “had a 6.75 percent body fat.”
“(Making) the weight (limit of 140 lbs) will not be a problem and we’ll make sure that he even gets to eat on the day of the weighin,” said Ariza, brushing off suggestions that game meat should be included on Pacquiao’s diet.
“We’re sticking to the things that we’re used to.” Meanwhile, Hatton is also deep in training in Las Vegas under Floyd Mayweather Sr.
