Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
im acronymin it up tonight, WTF can stop my acronyms :D
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
But we are the advanced boxing fans ;)
And they saw Mitchell looking spectacular in his comeback fights and they saw Tszyu destroy him and is heavily favored against Hatton. Then Hatton beat him like he did and he was put on a high.
They saw Maussa on the Mayweather Gatti undercard face the so called "Legitimate threat" to Mayweather in Vivian Harris, and it was national so he gets a boost for beating him! Then they see Hatton knock out Maussa so they put Hatton on cloud 9 right now.
Then they see Mayweather fight Gatti who had struggled against the likes of Branco, but then looked like he was supposed to against Leija and who really picked gatti to beat Mayweather ??? And then they see Judah on National Television against Baldomir and get beaten and then they see him give Mayweather some trouble before ultimately getting beaten.
Thats to the boxing fan out there ok. Not always the advanced fan. But from what they see, with Mayweather it will always be a "what have you done for me lately"
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
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Originally Posted by Starr
Thats to the boxing fan out there ok. Not always the advanced fan. But from what they see, with Mayweather it will always be a "what have you done for me lately"
But that's the problem with "US" as a collective...if everyone can have a bad night...because believe you me...there are some nights that I can hold my liquor & some nights that I take too many shots & shat my shorts...you can't base my whole drinking career on one night of poo stained shorts...or can you?
My point is this...records can be attacked...but opposition to opposition...you can't tell me that Maussa or Harris equates to Gatti or Judah or that beating all those bums equates to beating Castillo...& so on & so on...I just don't buy it...no matter who is selling it.
Facts are facts & even Kostya's opposition comes into question when compared to Floyd's.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
It doesn't equate for the past. But for most people its recent.
See I agree with you.
But Mayweather beats Gatti its
cmon who really thought Gatti would win .
Mayweather beats Judah its
Judah lost to Baldomir.
And you said every fighter has an off night and I could say that same thing about Judah against Baldomir but then it would be taking away from Carlos' accomplishment.
Fact is, Floyd beat a focused Judah and he did it the right way.
But like I said, to the average boxing fan who saw Judah get beaten by Baldomir they aren't going to give props.
Contrast that to the average boxing fan watching Mitchell on the comeback, tszyu destroy him, then Hatton beat Tszyu.
Then watch Maussa beat Vivian Harris, and then see Hatton knock out Maussa.
Thats why the lately and people hold it higher. And yes it is a problem.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
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Originally Posted by Starr
It doesn't equate for the past. But for most people its recent.
See I agree with you.
But Mayweather beats Gatti its
cmon who really thought Gatti would win .
Mayweather beats Judah its
Judah lost to Baldomir.
And you said every fighter has an off night and I could say that same thing about Judah against Baldomir but then it would be taking away from Carlos' accomplishment.
Fact is, Floyd beat a focused Judah and he did it the right way.
But like I said, to the average boxing fan who saw Judah get beaten by Baldomir they aren't going to give props.
Contrast that to the average boxing fan watching Mitchell on the comeback, tszyu destroy him, then Hatton beat Tszyu.
Then watch Maussa beat Vivian Harris, and then see Hatton knock out Maussa.
Thats why the lately and people hold it higher. And yes it is a problem.
Agreed...all I am getting at is that it's a shame that it's that way because in the end...people take away from Floyd...but they don't take away from Hatton.
It's been swept under the rug lately that Hatton has only beaten 3 game names...or what I consider to be game...but the Kostya & laughabley the Maussa win are the cream of the crop.
Yet...everyone brushes off Mayweather's anniahalations & humiliations of some of todays better fighters & greater names. Everyone today makes bullshat excuses for why Floyd won...not that Floyd outclassed them...but that they were weight drained & what not or that they had a handful of good rounds so that means that the judges were on Floyd's side.
It's bullshat. We as boxing fans should know better.
I can sit back & say Hatton looked good against Tackie, Kostya, & Maussa & feel fine about it...but I can also sit back & say that Mayweather dominated everyone EVERYONE that he faced...even Castillo, Corley, & Judah.
That doesn't make me better than everyone else or any shat like that...I just think that people need to recognize past before they try to comdemn with the present & even the future.
I christmas...I'm sauced again. :drunks:
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
Its also the one advantage Hopkins has over Jones and Mayweather. No one can question Hopkins like that ;D :)
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
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Originally Posted by Starr
Its also the one advantage Hopkins has over Jones and Mayweather. No one can question Hopkins like that ;D :)
Agreed...I think that we can both be considered as the biggest Bernard Ball Huggers here...hands down & bar none! ;D
For instance: http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...,31436.15.html
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
you two agree that judah would KTFO mitchel like PBF did, right?
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
Sooner then PBF did. But thats because Judah is a much faster starter ;)
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
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Sooner then PBF did. But thats because Judah is a much faster starter ;)
Heh heh heh.
Judah vs Mitchell = Mitchell by 4th round TKO. ;D
Fume Sally...fwockin fume!!! ;) ;D :lickish:
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
Wacko drunk...& wacko out!!! See ya's to-marrah!!!
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
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Originally Posted by Starr
Sooner then PBF did. But thats because Judah is a much faster starter ;)
Heh heh heh.
Judah vs Mitchell = Mitchell by 4th round TKO. ;D
Fume Sally...fwockin fume!!! ;) ;D :lickish:
:o W in TF?
YGBFKM!!>!>!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!
>:mad
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
Variable 4: Hatton has never fought in the U.S. before. He's going to be geared up to impress the Yanks as much as he is set to please his hometown crowd that shuttled over to see him stamp his mark on the American stage. How will this factor in to the fight? Who knows for sure...but it can go one of two ways: There could be too much pressure & too little time to adjust to the climate or he could be so hyped up that he just comes out to a blowout & Collazo eats leather all night long...we won't know till the first bell rings. I'm going to speculate that he'll be feelig more pressure to show out in front of us Yanks than he will for the hometown crowd...could be wrong...but I'm pretty sure that I'm right.
Just a small point, contrary to popular belief, Hatton has fought in America before, albeit sometime ago... He was on the undercard of the Naseem Hamed, Kevin Kelly fight...
ooops someone else has already made this point, that'll teach me to reply before readin the whole post! :Oops:
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
The Bank of America Center will be packed with English folks. Hatton will feel right at home. And here in Boston there are no big Collazo fans. There are much more Hatton Fans. This will be a big pro Hatton crowd ;)
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Hatton vs Collazo
I didn't realize Woods was facing Delisle. I saw Delisle fight Julio Gonzalez, he gave Julio some serious trouble. He doesn't stop coming forward and doesn't tire out. He can be picked apart coming forward but this will be an interesting fight for sure.