Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
PBF doesn't ever really KO people he TKO's a lot of guys but when was the last person he "knocked out" completely???
I mean guys like Trinidad KO'd guys....Floyd just peppers them til they quit or are too hurt to continue.
Starr, Ricky stepped it up BIG TIME as far as talent level AND he moved up in weight. This would be like PBF-Ouma at 154. I mean PBF MIGHT win but it would be hella hard
Re: BOTTOM LINE: Hatton can NOT beat PBF!!
Did you give Zab any credit for doing the same? And knocking the guy out in the rematch ??? No you hate Judah ::**
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Last time Zab was seeing birds he came back and won a few rounds but still lost the decision.
so he cant pull it out of the bag like Hatton... Glad we agree ;D
You don't know that because Hatton didn't have to go 5 more rounds after seeing birds ;)
and you dont know he couldnt ;)
and you don't know if he could. If there is a rematch with Collazo we will see.
the magee fight tells me he could ;)
And the Collazo fight tells me he probably couldn't at this level.
guess its all down to if you rate Magee...
good fighter by the way ;)
on another note ricky stated Collazo rocked him all through the fight... it was you who posted that so the boy did good got the W and it dosnt really matter what you think he had a bad night at the office and still won ;)
anyhooo ive got to get up in 5 hours so im out... good debates guys ((yea that includes you starr ;D))
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INO Hatton would get schooled badly by PBF and KTFO by Oscar DeLaHoya, but you all have heard that from me forever!
excuse me if your past record on picks dosnt make me take that statement toooo serious ;D
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Did you give Zab any credit for doing the same? And knocking the guy out in the rematch ??? No you hate Judah ::**
Zab lost the first ;) And then lost the next time he stepped p in talent level. He deserved lots of credit for the Spinks wins, and I think he got that. He detracted from that and then some with the Baldomir and PBF performances though.
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Like I said magee who? You bring him up as if hes somebody.
you seen hm fight ?
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Did you give Zab any credit for doing the same? And knocking the guy out in the rematch ??? No you hate Judah ::**
Starr, the point with Zab-Spinks is that Corey wasn't skilled at all, Corey had legs and that's why he was able to run from Mayorga and Zab is so much more skilled than what he showed in that first fight.
He just acts like titles should be handed to him yet he has the skill to win them he just doesn't want to do the work. Obviously Hatton wanted to work, he just didn't work the right way
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INO Hatton would get schooled badly by PBF and KTFO by Oscar DeLaHoya, but you all have heard that from me forever!
excuse me if your past record on picks dosnt make me take that statement toooo serious ;D
So what do u think now? Does hatton have what it takes at 147 or 154 to take on Oscar, PBF or Judah?
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INO Hatton would get schooled badly by PBF and KTFO by Oscar DeLaHoya, but you all have heard that from me forever!
excuse me if your past record on picks dosnt make me take that statement toooo serious ;D
So what do u think now? Does hatton have what it takes at 147 or 154 to take on Oscar, PBF or Judah?
truth.... not really on what he showed last night ;)
but i love playing devils advocate ;D
night guys ;)
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INO Hatton would get schooled badly by PBF and KTFO by Oscar DeLaHoya, but you all have heard that from me forever!
excuse me if your past record on picks dosnt make me take that statement toooo serious ;D
So what do u think now? Does hatton have what it takes at 147 or 154 to take on Oscar, PBF or Judah?
truth.... not really on what he showed last night ;)
but i love playing devils advocate ;D
night guys ;)
Did you ever think that he could beat Oscar? oir even PBF at 147-154
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I realize much of you here are in denial. Saddo, included. But the facts remain, Hatton got exposed. He has no defense. Don't you Hatton supporters realize PBF is waaaay faster than Collazo? Don't gimme the excuse that it was cuz he's southpaw. 2 main points are Hatton only comes forward, no side to side movement, and he has NO defense. None!! PBF would have a field day picking him apart. "But he would smother PBF". How? PBF's too fast for Hatton to catch him on the ropes.
Ricky, for your career's sake, go back to 140 before it's too late.
I agree...hatton looked slowwwwwww........the fight with PBF would be a slaughter......he couldn't get close enough to hold and hit much less land any meaningful shots on PBF...and both his eyes would be shut by the 4th round......
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Like I said magee who? You bring him up as if hes somebody.
you seen hm fight ?
A few times. I wouldn't comment on him if I didn't.
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INO Hatton would get schooled badly by PBF and KTFO by Oscar DeLaHoya, but you all have heard that from me forever!
excuse me if your past record on picks dosnt make me take that statement toooo serious ;D
Saddo, you saying Collazo is the second best Welterweight should have him questioning everything ;D
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I disagree. I don't think that it was just that it was a bad night... I think that maybe Collazo needs a bit of credit here.
I think he needs a ton of credit. I think credit was a big issue in this fight. Let's face it. Who gave Collazo a shot? Other then Starr (who picks the underdog everytime it seems), noone viewed Collazo as a threat and I HATE to bring it up because under training is the worst excuse ever imo but it has to be a factor here. I mean, Hatton did ons of press for this fight, he was doing tons of press, and...well he just wasn't looking like the guy who fought Tszyu or Collazo.
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One of two or three things needs to be taken into consideration...#1: Hatton started gassing out & his power fell off or #2: Collazo has one hell of a chin or #3: Hatton needs to be back @ 140 where he can dominate.
Hatton said in the post fight presser that he felt like a bloated 140 lber rather then a legit welter. His stamina is fine when he is in prime shape though, and his power carries fine. Ask Tszyu ;)
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I don't agree with the majority of haters on here though...last night isn't that damning...but I do feel that he didn't deserve the nod...either that or a draw.
I thought he won the fight.
some very good postings on this thread, amat :coolclick: ;)
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some very good postings on this thread, amat :coolclick: ;)
Gracias. :coolclick: returned.
