Re: Erik Morales focused on conditioning.
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No problem, LOL. At least the best of us can admit it too--unlike at least one notorious poster here.
Who's the notorius poster you are referring to bro?
Here's a hint: this poster has a name that starts with "st" and ends with "rr", and has a penis.
Re: Erik Morales focused on conditioning.
Ok to end this forum they're both great boxers (Manny and Erik) thats why they're fighting for that belt
whoever wins on November 18 2006 he's the greater one among the two of them but i'm sure the first name i mentioned a while ago is the greater one :lolololol: peace out!!!! :sneaky:
Re: Erik Morales focused on conditioning.
There both great fighters but it looks like all the wars Morales has had are finally cathing up with him. Pacquiao will do the same thing again.
Re: Erik Morales focused on conditioning.
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Neither did I say that EM hits harder than Pacquio p4p nor was the Jesus fight stopped because of an injury. ::** ??? ;) Also,EM damaged his hand badly against Jesus too,and still knocked Jesus down twice if I recall correctly.
Sure did and it was a beautiful uppercut that did it, but Jesus did catch Morales good early. But I think that people that say Morales is going to win are expecting a prime Morales to show up. I would love to see that Morales come back its the morales that has the greatest chance at beating Pacquiao, but the one dimentional Morales that fought Raheem and Pacquiao the second time is headed for another loss. And I hate to see it happen to such a good fighter. But I sat through all three Jones Tarvers, and I sat through Ouma Karmazin, I guess I can sit through this :'(
Re: Erik Morales focused on conditioning.
As great as Morales is, he won't be able to beat Pacquiao this time, to many wars have taken there toll. A prime Morales sure but not know
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sorry, i don't see morales having a chance here. he should have retired after the last fight. pacquiao TKO 6 or 7.
and pacman STILL hasn't hit his prime, so all this "but EM would kill him prime for prime" is a joke. erik was a great "warrior," but was never great technically, and was never as devastating a puncher (or as tenacious) as pacman. i know that a lot of people love him for his heart, and he has had a great career, but he's getting seriously overhyped on this thread. and he's going to get seriously beaten down in this fight.
Morales at his prime was P4P number top 3 easily.
First, Manny (still approaching his prime) is P4P top 3 easily now, so even if this were true it wouldn't make your point that "a prime EM would easily sweep away pacman." Second, RJJ, B-Hop, James Toney and Barrera (and arguably Holyfield) were all better than EM during EM's prime.
Pacfan,I'm adressing you here too bro,I believe EM to be superior in his prime simply because he could do it all.Fron foot,back foot,counter,good defence EVERYTHIng.Manny may be getting better but imo Erik was by far and away the more complete fighter in his prime. You make a valid point,Pac may still be reaching his prime(or he may have peaked). I never wrote sweep away Pacman either so why that is quoted........
Thanx pal for the nice, civilized chat. Got your point but it's hard for me to swallow the 'by far and away' part, did you really mean it?
If you did, wow! you're a true, full-blooded Erik fan, and I wish I can be like you when it comes to Pac; just haven't got the courage to declare that Pac is by far and away the best, maybe just a simple "best" (and already I can sense howls of protest here!).
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Pacfan bro,honestly,Erik was a joy to watch and always will be. He ruined himself slightly by engaging in too many wars but I honestly feel,a younger,well prepared EM beats Pac. He was juat more complete for me and when he was younger,he could go to war and outbox you! And there is nothing wrong with that,right now,Pac is STRONGLY claiming a position as P4P number 1.I respect him ALOT and think he is incredibly exciting to watch,but EM always has been and will be my fave.
Re: Erik Morales focused on conditioning.
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Pacfan bro,honestly,Erik was a joy to watch and always will be. He ruined himself slightly by engaging in too many wars but I honestly feel,a younger,well prepared EM beats Pac. He was juat more complete for me and when he was younger,he could go to war and outbox you! And there is nothing wrong with that,right now,Pac is STRONGLY claiming a position as P4P number 1.I respect him ALOT and think he is incredibly exciting to watch,but EM always has been and will be my fave.
Got your point, pal, and although I may not agree with you, I will not question your sincerity in your belief. But still, the 'by far and away' part is just too much for us Pac fan(atics), can't you just make it a simple 'he was better' instead? - naw, just kiddin'.
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Pacfan bro,honestly,Erik was a joy to watch and always will be. He ruined himself slightly by engaging in too many wars but I honestly feel,a younger,well prepared EM beats Pac. He was juat more complete for me and when he was younger,he could go to war and outbox you! And there is nothing wrong with that,right now,Pac is STRONGLY claiming a position as P4P number 1.I respect him ALOT and think he is incredibly exciting to watch,but EM always has been and will be my fave.
Got your point, pal, and although I may not agree with you, I will not question your sincerity in your belief. But still, the 'by far and away' part is just too much for us Pac fan(atics), can't you just make it a simple 'he was better' instead? - naw, just kiddin'.
Hahahah,cool. I think he may have been slightly better in his prime,that better? I agree,maybe I was over hyped that day with the far and away!! ;D
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Pacfan bro,honestly,Erik was a joy to watch and always will be. He ruined himself slightly by engaging in too many wars but I honestly feel,a younger,well prepared EM beats Pac. He was juat more complete for me and when he was younger,he could go to war and outbox you! And there is nothing wrong with that,right now,Pac is STRONGLY claiming a position as P4P number 1.I respect him ALOT and think he is incredibly exciting to watch,but EM always has been and will be my fave.
Got your point, pal, and although I may not agree with you, I will not question your sincerity in your belief. But still, the 'by far and away' part is just too much for us Pac fan(atics), can't you just make it a simple 'he was better' instead? - naw, just kiddin'.
Hahahah,cool. I think he may have been slightly better in his prime,that better? I agree,maybe I was over hyped that day with the far and away!! ;D
Thanx pal, now I can sleep!
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Pacfan bro,honestly,Erik was a joy to watch and always will be. He ruined himself slightly by engaging in too many wars but I honestly feel,a younger,well prepared EM beats Pac. He was juat more complete for me and when he was younger,he could go to war and outbox you! And there is nothing wrong with that,right now,Pac is STRONGLY claiming a position as P4P number 1.I respect him ALOT and think he is incredibly exciting to watch,but EM always has been and will be my fave.
Got your point, pal, and although I may not agree with you, I will not question your sincerity in your belief. But still, the 'by far and away' part is just too much for us Pac fan(atics), can't you just make it a simple 'he was better' instead? - naw, just kiddin'.
Hahahah,cool. I think he may have been slightly better in his prime,that better? I agree,maybe I was over hyped that day with the far and away!! ;D
Thanx pal, now I can sleep!
Alls well that ends well right? CC to the both of you!!
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As great as Morales is, he won't be able to beat Pacquiao this time, to many wars have taken there toll. A prime Morales sure but not know
I would have to say that this is a pretty accurate assessment IMO.....to many wars.....