Re: Oh Dear, Someone has called Margarito's bluff....
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Originally Posted by maracho
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by The Game
To whoever said Tony has signed to fight Cosme Rivera....errr,that fight has yet to be made and it is a mandatory although I hope he does not take it. It looks like Tony will be fighting Clottey which would be another dangerous match as Clottey was beating the current "man" Baldomir easily until he was DQed.
And to whoever said you pay your dues,I suggest you go and check your history about Margarito,pro since 15,faced everyone he can etc etc,that's paying your dues.
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
To people who say he's overated, he hasn't even had a chance to prove himself against the elite, don't tell me about he doesn't deserve his shot cos of the way he fauight against Santos because Floyd wasn't exactly convincing against Castillo was he?
All I'm saying is that you can say Margarito is overated when he is beaten by at least a B+ fighter, personally if he can't get a Mosely/Mayweather/Hatton/Winky then I'd love to see him fight Kassim Ouma. That would be a terrific fioght because Kassim could very conceivably box him for 12 rounds straight, but also has a slight vunerability in his chin, thus giving us a Bull vs Matador style fight which I love to watch, very ala Sam Peter vs Wlad but without the height difference.
Excellent points CC. The only thing I disagree with is going up to 154,all the big fights are at 147 and I'd prefer him to stay there and fight dangermen like Collazo,Quintana etc etc. He is headlining December 2 with Cotto so that's a chance for Tony to gain even more exposure.
So Margarito against Winky Wright, Kassim Ouma, Alex Garcia, Ike Quartey, Vernon Forrest or Spinks wouldn't be big fights at 154? All there is at 147 is Mayweather. And maybe Quintana. The real big fights are at 154.
Wright is not 154 and if these other fighters you mentioned want Margarito so badly they should move down to fight him like Clottey has done.
Right now I have a feeling that Hatton is a bigger draw than Spinks, Margarito a bigger draw than Ouma, Colazzo, Williams and Baldomir as big as Quartey, Cintron a bigger draw than Forest, Quintana and Berto are a bigger draw than Garcia.
sorry, margarito lover...........
this fight was ALWAYS supposed to be at 154 with tony moving up, and winky moving down.
this is common knowledge amongst people who know wtf is up in boxing ;)
Re: Oh Dear, Someone has called Margarito's bluff....
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Originally Posted by Starr
Arum is a hypocrite!!!!!
He says that he tries to get guys to fight Margarito but that they decline
OK. He wants to fight Winky, and Wright says give me more money then the 4 million Arum offered. Arum offers Floyd 8 million and Floyd says know so Arum withdraws everything...why DIDN'T he just offer the 8 million to Wright? ::**
because Winky would outright embarrass Margarito....This guy shouldn't share the same ring with Winky...or PBF for that matter...
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by Starr
Arum is a hypocrite!!!!!
He says that he tries to get guys to fight Margarito but that they decline
OK. He wants to fight Winky, and Wright says give me more money then the 4 million Arum offered. Arum offers Floyd 8 million and Floyd says know so Arum withdraws everything...why DIDN'T he just offer the 8 million to Wright? ::**
because Winky would outright embarrass Margarito....This guy shouldn't share the same ring with Winky...or PBF for that matter...
well fucking A these guys are so great and god like that tony is unworthy of fighting them.....all praise be to PBF and Winky...after all why should fighters fight just to fight...... ::**
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Re: Oh Dear, Someone has called Margarito's bluff....
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Winky does
your right winky always has.......and probably always will.......
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Originally Posted by maracho
Right now I have a feeling that Hatton is a bigger draw than Spinks, Margarito a bigger draw than Ouma, Colazzo, Williams and Baldomir as big as Quartey, Cintron a bigger draw than Forest, Quintana and Berto are a bigger draw than Garcia.
Hatton is probably a bigger draw than Spinks, Margarito and Ouma are probably about the same, and Quintana/Berto/Garcia are all pretty equally not much of a draw.
I think you're wrong on the others:
Quartey is a WAY bigger draw than Colazzo (known to most only for the Hatton fight), Williams (a
prospect who has beaten even less good fighters than Margarito) or Baldomir (who is sturdy but not exciting, and was completely unknown until a year ago);
Forest is a way bigger draw than Cintron--Forest beat Mosely twice (sure, it was another time, but people know him because of it), whereas most people have never heard of Cintron or seen him fight.
You might be right but only concerning Quartey and I think he will beat Forrest in a close battle.
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Clottely was beating Baldomir (we assume has anyone ever seen this fight?) 7 freakin years ago Game.
Jones was Hopkins and Toney 7 years ago, you fancy his chances now?
CC. And I'll just say it again--Clottey looked totally unimpressive on Saturday night. That would be just this past Saturday--2 days ago. Anyone who's top 5-10 in the division ought to beat him pretty handily. Would prove nothing if Margarito fought/beat him.
I was impressed by both fighters and that Columbian probably gave him a better fight than most will.
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Originally Posted by rsan-chez
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by Starr
Arum is a hypocrite!!!!!
He says that he tries to get guys to fight Margarito but that they decline
OK. He wants to fight Winky, and Wright says give me more money then the 4 million Arum offered. Arum offers Floyd 8 million and Floyd says know so Arum withdraws everything...why DIDN'T he just offer the 8 million to Wright? ::**
because Winky would outright embarrass Margarito....This guy shouldn't share the same ring with Winky...or PBF for that matter...
well fucking A these guys are so great and god like that tony is unworthy of fighting them.....all praise be to PBF and Winky...after all why should fighters fight just to fight...... ::**
They may as well be. Arum won't let Margarito fight a threat ;D
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by maracho
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by The Game
To whoever said Tony has signed to fight Cosme Rivera....errr,that fight has yet to be made and it is a mandatory although I hope he does not take it. It looks like Tony will be fighting Clottey which would be another dangerous match as Clottey was beating the current "man" Baldomir easily until he was DQed.
And to whoever said you pay your dues,I suggest you go and check your history about Margarito,pro since 15,faced everyone he can etc etc,that's paying your dues.
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
To people who say he's overated, he hasn't even had a chance to prove himself against the elite, don't tell me about he doesn't deserve his shot cos of the way he fauight against Santos because Floyd wasn't exactly convincing against Castillo was he?
All I'm saying is that you can say Margarito is overated when he is beaten by at least a B+ fighter, personally if he can't get a Mosely/Mayweather/Hatton/Winky then I'd love to see him fight Kassim Ouma. That would be a terrific fioght because Kassim could very conceivably box him for 12 rounds straight, but also has a slight vunerability in his chin, thus giving us a Bull vs Matador style fight which I love to watch, very ala Sam Peter vs Wlad but without the height difference.
Excellent points CC. The only thing I disagree with is going up to 154,all the big fights are at 147 and I'd prefer him to stay there and fight dangermen like Collazo,Quintana etc etc. He is headlining December 2 with Cotto so that's a chance for Tony to gain even more exposure.
So Margarito against Winky Wright, Kassim Ouma, Alex Garcia, Ike Quartey, Vernon Forrest or Spinks wouldn't be big fights at 154? All there is at 147 is Mayweather. And maybe Quintana. The real big fights are at 154.
Wright is not 154 and if these other fighters you mentioned want Margarito so badly they should move down to fight him like Clottey has done.
Right now I have a feeling that Hatton is a bigger draw than Spinks, Margarito a bigger draw than Ouma, Colazzo, Williams and Baldomir as big as Quartey, Cintron a bigger draw than Forest, Quintana and Berto are a bigger draw than Garcia.
sorry, margarito lover...........
this fight was ALWAYS supposed to be at 154 with tony moving up, and winky moving down.
this is common knowledge amongst people who know wtf is up in boxing ;)
Sorry mexican hater but your knowledge is nill if you think Winky still fights at 154. heck man he is even tyhinking about going super middle.
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Originally Posted by rsan-chez
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by Starr
Arum is a hypocrite!!!!!
He says that he tries to get guys to fight Margarito but that they decline
OK. He wants to fight Winky, and Wright says give me more money then the 4 million Arum offered. Arum offers Floyd 8 million and Floyd says know so Arum withdraws everything...why DIDN'T he just offer the 8 million to Wright? ::**
because Winky would outright embarrass Margarito....This guy shouldn't share the same ring with Winky...or PBF for that matter...
well F****** A these guys are so great and god like that tony is unworthy of fighting them.....all praise be to PBF and Winky...after all why should fighters fight just to fight...... ::**
Winky has never fought for over 4 million in his life so it proves he was scared
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Originally Posted by maracho
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Originally Posted by rsan-chez
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by Starr
Arum is a hypocrite!!!!!
He says that he tries to get guys to fight Margarito but that they decline
OK. He wants to fight Winky, and Wright says give me more money then the 4 million Arum offered. Arum offers Floyd 8 million and Floyd says know so Arum withdraws everything...why DIDN'T he just offer the 8 million to Wright? ::**
because Winky would outright embarrass Margarito....This guy shouldn't share the same ring with Winky...or PBF for that matter...
well F****** A these guys are so great and god like that tony is unworthy of fighting them.....all praise be to PBF and Winky...after all why should fighters fight just to fight...... ::**
Winky has never fought for over 4 million in his life so it proves he was scared
No.. it proves Arum is smart to make sure that Margarito don't fight these guys. Winky asked for more money and he would fight Margarito and Arum wouldn't do it... now Floyd turns down 8 milliom dollar pay day and Arum won't offer that pay day to Wright which is the "more money" he could get?
Riiight you believe Arums little game if you want ::**
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At the time PBF was twice the name as Winky since Winky hadnt really fought a big name except Vargas and a washed up Tito. Oh and I amost forgot about little Mosley.
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At the time PBF was twice the name as Winky since Winky hadnt really fought a big name except Vargas and a washed up Tito. Oh and I amost forgot about little Mosley.
who did you pick in Wright Trinidad?
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I dont remember but I wanted Tito to win and thought he had a good chance but he was obviously not himslef. I did not bet on him though like the time I made a killing when he beat Oscar.
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margaritto is a questin mark to everyone... He is very versitile and as I dont think it is fear that sways fighters as much as the unknown ;)
