hopkins, de la hoya, sugar ray leonard and robinson and ali
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hopkins, de la hoya, sugar ray leonard and robinson and ali
I have The Brockton Blockbuster at #56....Quote:
Originally Posted by undefeated
Greb(b) was Greater IMO because:
Only 8 defeats in 299 fights in only 13 years, Harry died in 1926 aged only 32 (Died under anaesthetic in surgery)
Only man to beat Gene Tunney as a pro
Three year reign as Middleweight Champion beating Mickey Walker during his reign.
Beat a Tommy Gibbons, who went into the fight unbeaten (76-0-1-1)
Beat Tommy Loughran and a 45-1 Jimmy Slattery
Also claimed 'Newspaper Decisions' over Gibbons, Tunney, Tiger Flowers, Maxie Rosenbloom, Kid Norfolk, Gunboat Smith, Mike McTigue and Battling Levinsky.
And on top of all this, he fought his entire pro career with only sight in one eye!
until he beats Margarito it's still Boldizor :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
truthfully, I just wanted to call him Bolzodzir
or was it Boldizor?
My Great P4P List,bear in mind im 14 so i have to depend on video/dvd footage of old fighters
1. Ray Robinson
2. Roy Jones
3. Muhammed Ali
4. Ray Leonard
5. Pernell Whitaker
6. Henry Armstrong
7. Willy Pep
8. Joe Louis
9. Roberto Duran
10. Julio Ceaser Chavez
11. Carlos Monzon
12. Marvin Hagler
13. Tommy Hearns
14. Jimmy Wilde
15. Oscar De La Hoya
16. Harry Grebb
17. Mike Tyson
18. Jake LaMotta
19. Alexis Arguello
20. Ruben Olivares
21. Jack Johnson
22. Floyd Patterson
23. Rocky Graziano
My top 5 would go like this:
Ray Robinson
Ray Leonard (& I don't even like that ego tripper)
Monzon
Hopkins
Mayweather (or a toss up with Jones jr)
Woah wacko didn't hit us with the winky wright bomb on this one, hell has frozen over people!
looks a good list to meQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Muhammad Ali
4 Willie Pepp
5 Roberto Duran
6 Jimmy Wilde
7 Benny Leonard
8 Julio Cesar Chavez
9 Roy Jones Jnr
10 Harry Greb
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Originally Posted by BIG H
You having Chavez #7 on your list and not having Whitaker at all should be illegal
It's based on the fact that Chavez was past his prime when he fought Whitaker - it's all about opinions afterall ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
Very true, I love to debate. But the only way you can say a fighter is beyond his prime is if he has either loss or has showed signs of slowing down, at the time of the fight Chavez had done niether. He had a brilliant performance before and after the Whitaker fights so how can you say he was out of his prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
I dont't think any fighter has ever been in their prime after 13 years and 88 fights as a pro, just the way I see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Very funny. Fighters such as Mosley, Lacy, Maywheather, Taylor, Ried had tons of fights (some in the hundreds) far before they ever even turned pro, what does that mean? That means if you are fighting part time boxers (boxers who cant live off of their wages so they have to work other jobs) it's very easy to build a record like that, and it would not take 13 years I tell you that much. Add the fact that Chavez is only a year and a half older than Whitaker you dont have much. I won't take anything from Chavez because he was a great fighter but prime or no prime Pernell Whitaker was better, he proved it time and time again.
Damn.Quote:
Originally Posted by raleights
Thanks babe...almost forgot...
Fixed...just for you...& for the record...the firey pit is still lit.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205