Re: Fighters that were unable to rebound from big losses?
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
hahah... you've got to be the best troll I've seen, is it a hobby? you're very good :)
Its either that or a bad case of Angst on the net. Every body else manages to get along with out slinging shit around... maybe you know something they don't? :)
If everybody gets along without slinging shit, than why do you sling it? I'm just curious. Cuz, It don't bother me. You can sling it my way all you want. I'll just shake my head at your limitations and than put you in your place. No big deal. But why sling first if you say everybody gets along?
Re: Fighters that were unable to rebound from big losses?
Yeah I agree with a lot of posters here about Hamed & Tayor, just could get back on track. Hamed pretty much ran from the game, & losing with only 2 seconds left seemed to drain everything from Taylor.
Re: Fighters that were unable to rebound from big losses?
Everyone is saying Naseem but I don't think that's really what was meant.. The thread said fighters who were UNABLE to rebound from big losses, not fighters who didn't try... How are we to know what the Barerra loss did to Nas as a fighter, he never made any effort to get back to his best form.. IMO Meldrick Taylor is head and shoulders above most mentioned so far.. Although he did go on to win a legit belt in a higher weight class directly after the Chavez fight, in fact won a couple of belts I believe and not over some joke contenders, Mcgirt was a good WW champion, but he was still never the same. I think what seperates Taylor is the pure physical toll that was taken on his body.. Tyson, Bowe, it's completely anyones guess how much the losses had to do with it as oposed to a lack of focus or bad habits outside of the ring.. In fact Im sure both were never the same before they suffered their first defeats.. Taylor was truly a young fighter ruined, Chavez was his first big fight and what he accomplished after that fight despite never being the same should be a testament to his potential and what the loss really did to him.
Re: Fighters that were unable to rebound from big losses?
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Everyone is saying Naseem but I don't think that's really what was meant.. The thread said fighters who were UNABLE to rebound from big losses, not fighters who didn't try... How are we to know what the Barerra loss did to Nas as a fighter, he never made any effort to get back to his best form.. IMO Meldrick Taylor is head and shoulders above most mentioned so far.. Although he did go on to win a legit belt in a higher weight class directly after the Chavez fight, in fact won a couple of belts I believe and not over some joke contenders, Mcgirt was a good WW champion, but he was still never the same. I think what seperates Taylor is the pure physical toll that was taken on his body.. Tyson, Bowe, it's completely anyones guess how much the losses had to do with it as oposed to a lack of focus or bad habits outside of the ring.. In fact Im sure both were never the same before they suffered their first defeats.. Taylor was truly a young fighter ruined, Chavez was his first big fight and what he accomplished after that fight despite never being the same should be a testament to his potential and what the loss really did to him.
About Hamed I think it's spot on. If he hadn't lost to Barrera he still would have continued on spouting all his legend sh*t, but with the schooling he got by Barrera he lost all desire & was not able to rebound from the defeat.
Re: Fighters that were unable to rebound from big losses?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
hahah... you've got to be the best troll I've seen, is it a hobby? you're very good :)
Its either that or a bad case of Angst on the net. Every body else manages to get along with out slinging S*** around... maybe you know something they don't? :)
If everybody gets along without slinging S***, than why do you sling it? I'm just curious. Cuz, It don't bother me. You can sling it my way all you want. I'll just shake my head at your limitations and than put you in your place. No big deal. But why sling first if you say everybody gets along?
I don't think I did, unless you take the 'STD' thing with ':P ;)' next to it to be serious. But what ever... can't be bothered with a pissing match, can you help me find my place now please?
Fact is you are either a fucking hilarious troll or have E-Angst. End of.
Re: Fighters that were unable to rebound from big losses?
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
hahah... you've got to be the best troll I've seen, is it a hobby? you're very good :)
Its either that or a bad case of Angst on the net. Every body else manages to get along with out slinging S*** around... maybe you know something they don't? :)
If everybody gets along without slinging S***, than why do you sling it? I'm just curious. Cuz, It don't bother me. You can sling it my way all you want. I'll just shake my head at your limitations and than put you in your place. No big deal. But why sling first if you say everybody gets along?
I don't think I did, unless you take the 'STD' thing with ':P ;)' next to it to be serious. But what ever... can't be bothered with a pissing match, can you help me find my place now please?
Fact is you are either a fucking hilarious troll or have E-Angst. End of.
I didn't take it seriously, cuz I don't take you seriously.
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you don't know me... but like I said I won't get into a pissing match... nothing you say is insulting to any one with a mental age over 17...
Bye.
Re: Fighters that were unable to rebound from big losses?
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
hahah... you've got to be the best troll I've seen, is it a hobby? you're very good :)
Its either that or a bad case of Angst on the net. Every body else manages to get along with out slinging S*** around... maybe you know something they don't? :)
If everybody gets along without slinging S***, than why do you sling it? I'm just curious. Cuz, It don't bother me. You can sling it my way all you want. I'll just shake my head at your limitations and than put you in your place. No big deal. But why sling first if you say everybody gets along?
I don't think I did, unless you take the 'STD' thing with ':P ;)' next to it to be serious. But what ever... can't be bothered with a pissing match, can you help me find my place now please?
Fact is you are either a F****** hilarious troll or have E-Angst. End of.
Hey, AdamGB - how come you never call me a hilarious troll or a purveyor of e-engst. I would take that as quite a compliment. :D
Re: Fighters that were unable to rebound from big losses?
It's Yin and Yan thing... you wind people up but it's funny and you're not an arsehole... :P
who knows maybe you're in cohuits playing people off against each other, or maybe you have a 'fight club' thing going on and need serious mental help :P
Re: Fighters that were unable to rebound from big losses?
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
It's Yin and Yan thing... you wind people up but it's funny and you're not an arsehole... :P
who knows maybe you're in cohuits playing people off against each other, or maybe you have a 'fight club' thing going on and need serious mental help :P
Why, thank you !!!
No, we are not in cohorts, he slags me off on other threads and an objective reading of his posts leads one to doubt whether he speaks the truth all the time about himself. ;)
I do need some mental help, but that would be cured by the return of Jax to this forum and the inevitable baiting that Ill Mitch would give him.
Re: Fighters that were unable to rebound from big losses?
Wacko is trying to keep Ill Mitch on the lock down... :P
I don't think we'll be seeing him soon if Clayton "Wacko" Bigsby has his say in things ;D ;)
Re: Fighters that were unable to rebound from big losses?
You'd have thought that Ill Mitch would have had a lot to say, seeing as how all the heavyweight champs are from his neck of the woods.
His helmet and skateboard/rapping skills would make him uniquely qualified to add some social commentary on this phenomenon.
Re: Fighters that were unable to rebound from big losses?
He commented on Jax saying that "Rahman is chump" but he's not been on teh forum properly for about 1/4 of a year... he's on probation.
Re: Fighters that were unable to rebound from big losses?
Zab Judah, Meldrick Taylor are two that come to mind
Re: Fighters that were unable to rebound from big losses?
marvin haglers loss to ray leonard ;D