Re: Mayweather on Margarito "Spot two name fighters on that mother-f*****'s record!"
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Then PBF decides an already done with ZAB, who had just lost to Baldomir and WAS NO LONGER a champ in any way shape or form.
Nah ... that fight was already made and waiting. Had Floyd not fought Judah based on his loss to Baldomir he'd have been scorned for that, too. Baldomir hadn't beaten Gatti yet at that point, and his win over Judah ... it might have been a fluke. Even though we know it wasn't now we didn't necessarily then.
At any rate my point is that the Floyd - Judah fight had been there waiting to be fought, and the idea that Judah was already "done" ... I'm not sure it's even true now. I don't think Zab ever really stood up.
I have this funny feeling that Floyd is just going to beat everybody, in fairly outstanding fashion, and never get beat ... he'll walk through Hatton ... and he'll face the best fighters in his class and beat them handily ... and when his career is over, unblemished and undefeated, the complaint will be: "Yeah, but who did he ever fight?"
Even if he fights the best out there, it will only show that he fought no one that could really challenge him. And that will mean that he is less than he could have been, because of his competition.
Anybody digging the logic?
i did see the first castillo fight, and think PBF lost a close one ... he's not 100% invincible. I think he beats anyone but DLH though from here on out.
I completely disagree.....
If PBF can beat Hatton, ODLH, Mosley & Winky I can assure people will give him his dues and he would have earned his respect & place in boxing as probably the best ever. I repeat IF......
Re: Mayweather on Margarito "Spot two name fighters on that mother-f*****'s reco
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People talk about PBF this & that....... He want's to be the KING at 147 'undisputed' champ well theres a dispute. Tony holds a belt in order to be 'undisputed' he would have own WBC, IBF, WBA & WBO.
RJJ undisputed owned....what? 8 belts at one. Thats fwocken undisputed, whos gonna dispute that.
Its simple people quit making it so hard.
It's even simpler actually. The alphabet straps and "unification" have absolutely nothing to do with being "undisputed" champ. There's a maximum of one champ per division--by definition an "undisputed" champ. Right now that's Baldomir. Tony has a strap from a sanctioning body--doesn't mean S*** (except that now he has to fight Williams--haha).
cc bro you know it. Margarito holds a belt, Baldomir holds a championship.
Opinions opinions but Margarito is the true people's champ--just read the the majority of boxing forums instead of listening to dweebs like these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-1fIEpBy90
These buffoons insist that Margarito backed down from Oscar’s Ishe but look who Ishe is fighting tonight and you will understand a bit about these pretty boy propagandist
Margarito's just a contender nothing more, he's done nothing to earn the title peoples champ. He never fought any of the former champions just sat in the background calling people out.
Forrest won the vacant championship by beating Mosley. Margarito never did anything to get Mosley in the ring back then after Mosley lost twice!
Mayorga won the championship by KOing Forrest. Margarito never got Forrest in the ring after he lost twice.
Spinks won the championship by defeating Mayorga. Now Margarito was calling out Mayorga when he was champ but once he lost instead of trying to get the former champ in the ring once again he did nothing.
Judah won the championship from Spinks & again did Margarito try to fight Spinks... no.
Baldomir won the championship from Judah, did Margarito try to get Judah... no.
That's 4 ex champions who Margarito could have faced to atleast desreve some sorta standing but he fought none of them. Now when Floyd beats Baldomir will Margarito fight Baldomir... no. Margarito's only a contender he'll get his shot one day, but it will only be when he has earned it!!!
Re: Mayweather on Margarito "Spot two name fighters on that mother-f*****'s record!"
Margarito is a big guy for welter but what has he honestly done? Beat Cintron? What had Cintron done?
Re: Mayweather on Margarito "Spot two name fighters on that mother-f*****'s record!"
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I completely disagree.....
If PBF can beat Hatton, ODLH, Mosley & Winky I can assure people will give him his dues and he would have earned his respect & place in boxing as probably the best ever. I repeat IF......
Hmm. Well, satire isn't meant to be agreed with or disagreed with. You're supposed to just sort of admire it.
If its facts you want to deal with, then on that rather mundane <yawn> level I tend to agree with you.
Re: Mayweather on Margarito "Spot two name fighters on that mother-f*****'s record!"
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Originally Posted by NuthaPug
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I completely disagree.....
If PBF can beat Hatton, ODLH, Mosley & Winky I can assure people will give him his dues and he would have earned his respect & place in boxing as probably the best ever. I repeat IF......
Hmm. Well, satire isn't meant to be agreed with or disagreed with. You're supposed to just sort of admire it.
If its facts you want to deal with, then on that rather mundane <yawn> level I tend to agree with you.
Well I guess that settles that then. ;)
Re: Mayweather on Margarito "Spot two name fighters on that mother-f*****'s record!"
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by maracho
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
People talk about PBF this & that....... He want's to be the KING at 147 'undisputed' champ well theres a dispute. Tony holds a belt in order to be 'undisputed' he would have own WBC, IBF, WBA & WBO.
RJJ undisputed owned....what? 8 belts at one. Thats fwocken undisputed, whos gonna dispute that.
Its simple people quit making it so hard.
It's even simpler actually. The alphabet straps and "unification" have absolutely nothing to do with being "undisputed" champ. There's a maximum of one champ per division--by definition an "undisputed" champ. Right now that's Baldomir. Tony has a strap from a sanctioning body--doesn't mean S*** (except that now he has to fight Williams--haha).
cc bro you know it. Margarito holds a belt, Baldomir holds a championship.
Opinions opinions but Margarito is the true people's champ--just read the the majority of boxing forums instead of listening to dweebs like these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-1fIEpBy90
These buffoons insist that Margarito backed down from Oscar’s Ishe but look who Ishe is fighting tonight and you will understand a bit about these pretty boy propagandist
So you say that it's not Margarito's fault he has fought a majority of bums and excuse him. Yet you're saying that if it's true that Ishe wanted to fight Margarito and didn't get it so that Ishe is fighting a bum tonight, that it's Ishe's fault for fighting the bum and thats the reason Margarito shouldn't fight him ???
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No I am just saying that Oscar was not honest when he told the world that he wanted Winky and ishe to fight Margarito which is especially evident from who Ishe fought tonight--see today’s Saddo headline “It’s a Mora, Gomez, Ishe Weekend: Bona fide contenders or over hyped boxing pretenders.
Re: Mayweather on Margarito "Spot two name fighters on that mother-f*****'s reco
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
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Originally Posted by maracho
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
People talk about PBF this & that....... He want's to be the KING at 147 'undisputed' champ well theres a dispute. Tony holds a belt in order to be 'undisputed' he would have own WBC, IBF, WBA & WBO.
RJJ undisputed owned....what? 8 belts at one. Thats fwocken undisputed, whos gonna dispute that.
Its simple people quit making it so hard.
It's even simpler actually. The alphabet straps and "unification" have absolutely nothing to do with being "undisputed" champ. There's a maximum of one champ per division--by definition an "undisputed" champ. Right now that's Baldomir. Tony has a strap from a sanctioning body--doesn't mean S*** (except that now he has to fight Williams--haha).
cc bro you know it. Margarito holds a belt, Baldomir holds a championship.
Opinions opinions but Margarito is the true people's champ--just read the the majority of boxing forums instead of listening to dweebs like these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-1fIEpBy90
These buffoons insist that Margarito backed down from Oscar’s Ishe but look who Ishe is fighting tonight and you will understand a bit about these pretty boy propagandist
Margarito's just a contender nothing more, he's done nothing to earn the title peoples champ. He never fought any of the former champions just sat in the background calling people out.
Forrest won the vacant championship by beating Mosley. Margarito never did anything to get Mosley in the ring back then after Mosley lost twice!
Mayorga won the championship by KOing Forrest. Margarito never got Forrest in the ring after he lost twice.
Spinks won the championship by defeating Mayorga. Now Margarito was calling out Mayorga when he was champ but once he lost instead of trying to get the former champ in the ring once again he did nothing.
Judah won the championship from Spinks & again did Margarito try to fight Spinks... no.
Baldomir won the championship from Judah, did Margarito try to get Judah... no.
That's 4 ex champions who Margarito could have faced to atleast desreve some sorta standing but he fought none of them. Now when Floyd beats Baldomir will Margarito fight Baldomir... no. Margarito's only a contender he'll get his shot one day, but it will only be when he has earned it!!!
Very few would blame Margarito for not wanting sloppy seconds and most with common sence understand why he wants to unify championships--fame and $$$$, etc...
Just because Floyed fights guys that just got blasted doesn't mean diddly except bad business in my opinion and according to several hundred blogs.
Re: Mayweather on Margarito "Spot two name fighters on that mother-f*****'s reco
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Originally Posted by maracho
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
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Originally Posted by maracho
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
People talk about PBF this & that....... He want's to be the KING at 147 'undisputed' champ well theres a dispute. Tony holds a belt in order to be 'undisputed' he would have own WBC, IBF, WBA & WBO.
RJJ undisputed owned....what? 8 belts at one. Thats fwocken undisputed, whos gonna dispute that.
Its simple people quit making it so hard.
It's even simpler actually. The alphabet straps and "unification" have absolutely nothing to do with being "undisputed" champ. There's a maximum of one champ per division--by definition an "undisputed" champ. Right now that's Baldomir. Tony has a strap from a sanctioning body--doesn't mean S*** (except that now he has to fight Williams--haha).
cc bro you know it. Margarito holds a belt, Baldomir holds a championship.
Opinions opinions but Margarito is the true people's champ--just read the the majority of boxing forums instead of listening to dweebs like these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-1fIEpBy90
These buffoons insist that Margarito backed down from Oscar’s Ishe but look who Ishe is fighting tonight and you will understand a bit about these pretty boy propagandist
Margarito's just a contender nothing more, he's done nothing to earn the title peoples champ. He never fought any of the former champions just sat in the background calling people out.
Forrest won the vacant championship by beating Mosley. Margarito never did anything to get Mosley in the ring back then after Mosley lost twice!
Mayorga won the championship by KOing Forrest. Margarito never got Forrest in the ring after he lost twice.
Spinks won the championship by defeating Mayorga. Now Margarito was calling out Mayorga when he was champ but once he lost instead of trying to get the former champ in the ring once again he did nothing.
Judah won the championship from Spinks & again did Margarito try to fight Spinks... no.
Baldomir won the championship from Judah, did Margarito try to get Judah... no.
That's 4 ex champions who Margarito could have faced to atleast desreve some sorta standing but he fought none of them. Now when Floyd beats Baldomir will Margarito fight Baldomir... no. Margarito's only a contender he'll get his shot one day, but it will only be when he has earned it!!!
Very few would blame Margarito for not wanting sloppy seconds and most with common sence understand why he wants to unify championships--fame and $$$$
Just because Floyed fights guys that just got blated doesn't mean diddly except bad business in my opinion.
Bro Mosley was ranked #1 after his 2 loses, so was Forrest, & so was Mayorga & Judah after the 1st lose to Spinks. #1's not sloppy bro. Margarito just doesn't wanna fight anyone decent to prove his worth, just expects everything to be handed to him.
Judah/ Mayweather did well money wise even though Judah had lost. Now Floyd's fighting the champion not a contender like Margarito.
Re: Mayweather on Margarito "Spot two name fighters on that mother-f*****'s reco
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Bro Mosley was ranked #1 after his 2 loses, so was Forrest, & so was Mayorga & Judah after the 1st lose to Spinks. #1's not sloppy bro. Margarito just doesn't wanna fight anyone decent to prove his worth, just expects everything to be handed to him.
Judah/ Mayweather did well money wise even though Judah had lost. Now Floyd's fighting the champion not a contender like Margarito.
Rankings are all rigged by Oscar and Don in my opinion and the rankings that you insist to go by are just a magazine's oppinion. As promoters, HBO and Showtime realize that most fans only hear a breif smatter of a "particular" ranking when they are announced prior to a fight; thus they also use tactics to protect their fattened cows because its business sence that once a boxer is thouroughly beaten his marketability plummets like lead, bro.
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Bro Mosley was ranked #1 after his 2 loses, so was Forrest, & so was Mayorga & Judah after the 1st lose to Spinks. #1's not sloppy bro. Margarito just doesn't wanna fight anyone decent to prove his worth, just expects everything to be handed to him.
Judah/ Mayweather did well money wise even though Judah had lost. Now Floyd's fighting the champion not a contender like Margarito.
Rankings are all rigged by Oscar and Don in my opinion and the rankings that you insist to go by are just a magazine's oppinion. As promoters, HBO and Showtime realixe that most fans only hear a breif smatter of a "particular" rankings when they are announce prior to a fight; thus so they also use tactics to protect their fattened cows because its business sence that once a boxer is thouroughly beaten his marketability plummets like lead, bro.
Out of all the organizations,isn't the Ring,the only one which has ACTUALLY been caught with dodgy rankings?
Margarito has beaten more top 10 contenders than ANYONE else at WW,so when people say he has done nothing,that has no basis on fact.And all that BS about being linear champ and him not challenging for it,the linear champ always ducks him,Zab,Mayorga,Forrest,Baldozar etc etc. AND WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO FIGHT PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOST?? If Tony beat all those people someone mentioned,the ex champs,EVERYONE would just say,oh,he beat a losre,someone coming off a loss(sounds familiar!). Fact is TONy has decent names on his record and if he beats Clottey and one more,he has the right to call out anyone else he wants.
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Bro Mosley was ranked #1 after his 2 loses, so was Forrest, & so was Mayorga & Judah after the 1st lose to Spinks. #1's not sloppy bro. Margarito just doesn't wanna fight anyone decent to prove his worth, just expects everything to be handed to him.
Judah/ Mayweather did well money wise even though Judah had lost. Now Floyd's fighting the champion not a contender like Margarito.
Rankings are all rigged by Oscar and Don in my opinion and the rankings that you insist to go by are just a magazine's oppinion. As promoters, HBO and Showtime realixe that most fans only hear a breif smatter of a "particular" rankings when they are announce prior to a fight; thus so they also use tactics to protect their fattened cows because its business sence that once a boxer is thouroughly beaten his marketability plummets like lead, bro.
Out of all the organizations,isn't the Ring,the only one which has ACTUALLY been caught with dodgy rankings?
Margarito has beaten more top 10 contenders than ANYONE else at WW,so when people say he has done nothing,that has no basis on fact.And all that BS about being linear champ and him not challenging for it,the linear champ always ducks him,Zab,Mayorga,Forrest,Baldozar etc etc. AND WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO FIGHT PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOST?? If Tony beat all those people someone mentioned,the ex champs,EVERYONE would just say,oh,he beat a losre,someone coming off a loss(sounds familiar!). Fact is TONy has decent names on his record and if he beats Clottey and one more,he has the right to call out anyone else he wants.
Couldn't have said better myself my fellow fan in the know.
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Dam right Maracho CC brother! O0 8)
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Bro Mosley was ranked #1 after his 2 loses, so was Forrest, & so was Mayorga & Judah after the 1st lose to Spinks. #1's not sloppy bro. Margarito just doesn't wanna fight anyone decent to prove his worth, just expects everything to be handed to him.
Judah/ Mayweather did well money wise even though Judah had lost. Now Floyd's fighting the champion not a contender like Margarito.
Rankings are all rigged by Oscar and Don in my opinion and the rankings that you insist to go by are just a magazine's oppinion. As promoters, HBO and Showtime realixe that most fans only hear a breif smatter of a "particular" rankings when they are announce prior to a fight; thus so they also use tactics to protect their fattened cows because its business sence that once a boxer is thouroughly beaten his marketability plummets like lead, bro.
Out of all the organizations,isn't the Ring,the only one which has ACTUALLY been caught with dodgy rankings?
Margarito has beaten more top 10 contenders than ANYONE else at WW,so when people say he has done nothing,that has no basis on fact.And all that BS about being linear champ and him not challenging for it,the linear champ always ducks him,Zab,Mayorga,Forrest,Baldozar etc etc. AND WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO FIGHT PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOST?? If Tony beat all those people someone mentioned,the ex champs,EVERYONE would just say,oh,he beat a losre,someone coming off a loss(sounds familiar!). Fact is TONy has decent names on his record and if he beats Clottey and one more,he has the right to call out anyone else he wants.
Couldn't have said better myself my fellow fan in the know.
Bro Dodge rankings, come on guys all the alpabet idiots have done worse. That scandle was over 30 years ago, the Ring has changed ownership three times since then. Trying to blame the current Ring staff with the sins of the past is a lot like blaming the current Chicago White Sox for the fixing of the 1919 World Series - unreasonable & unfair.
Don't forget that The Ring has been awarding championship belt since 1922 & that the Ring invented the concept of boxing rankings. That's a fact, there were no ratings before The Ring pioneered the idea.
If Margarito had fought one of the guys I mentioned I'd give him his props. You say why should he fight a loser but the fact is he fought Six Heads after Mayorga already destroyed him & that fight was got him a heap of expossure! Plus he never tried to fight these guys before they were champ he just f*cked around.
Re: Mayweather on Margarito "Spot two name fighters on that mother-f*****'s reco
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
Bro Dodge rankings, come on guys all the alpabet idiots have done worse. That scandle was over 30 years ago, the Ring has changed ownership three times since then. Trying to blame the current Ring staff with the sins of the past is a lot like blaming the current Chicago White Sox for the fixing of the 1919 World Series - unreasonable & unfair.
Don't forget that The Ring has been awarding championship belt since 1922 & that the Ring invented the concept of boxing rankings. That's a fact, there were no ratings before The Ring pioneered the idea.
If Margarito had fought one of the guys I mentioned I'd give him his props. You say why should he fight a loser but the fact is he fought Six Heads after Mayorga already destroyed him & that fight was got him a heap of expossure! Plus he never tried to fight these guys before they were champ he just f*cked around.
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news/pierce0708.php
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho...s/5710767.html
Re: Mayweather on Margarito "Spot two name fighters on that mother-f*****'s record!"
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Margarito is a big guy for welter but what has he honestly done? Beat Cintron? What had Cintron done?
Go life or death with a weight drained Teddy Reid ???
