Just watched Hagler v Leonard for 1st time in 19 years - my card

I made a mistake but those of you who know what time it is will eventually spot it. thanks.

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Originally Posted by The Fightfan

I always take a lashing from people when I say my score's so here goes. I had it 8 to 4 for Hagler. Yes I am one of those people who think Hagler was robbed.Yes Leonard racked up points but remember this is the pro's not amatuer's. IMO If Hagler hadn't of pressed their would have been no fight.To me this fight will go down as Ali Frazier II a robbery.

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Because you post your scores you get a lashing? It should be the other way around. People who post one sentence to bullshiet and pretend should be the ones who get a lashing. Do your work and phuk the biatches that lash at you, lash back bro. I had no problem posting my score with notes and neither should you. You see a lot of these guys get in a thread and dont say anything, they pretend and they will say yes I seen this and I saw that and just post something they saw on another forum ;D like that 16 year old punk named leftylea. Don't let some of these punks get to you, you have to understand most of them are little 60 lbs wimps who cant fight a lick on the streets and they get bad on line. E - Soldiers E-Thugs are like Studio Gangstas and thus fear them not.

I always wondered why did Hagler come out orthodox and try to box Leonard?

He was trying to confuse Leonard but confused himself. I had it 6 rounds even.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I always wondered why did Hagler come out orthodox and try to box Leonard?

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It is one of the biggest arguments but in the end it was a team decision and not something Hagler himself came up with on his own. Hagler should have switched back and forth a little more and not stuck with the whole orthodox stance for so long. If you read my notes, as soon as he switched to southpaw, he was able to find Leonard but the team came up with this strategy and I guess they were just following their game plan, not very effective if you ask me.

I have scored the fight myself and on my card, it was not a robbery, the fight was very close, anyone who says Hagler was robbed, is full of shiet.

Hagler wasnt a natural Southpaw,He is right sided. He had experimented orthadox I assume and decided to switch, and ego had decided that He could outbox Ray being an orthadox Fighter or so it would appear He was that confident. Anyway Thats my reading of it, but it backfired bigtime, and after six rounds it was catch up and Rush. He had lost His Tempo and Rythem and composure, He Fucked up big time. Ray must have thought his Birthdays had all come at once ;D

Cant remember my score card but I know I had SRL just about winning.;D

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Originally Posted by porkypara

Cant remember my score card but I know I had SRL just about winning.;D

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Of course you did because you are a SRL fan ;D I had him winning too but I have since re watched the fight and it was close and if you see my notes, you will see just how very close I scored it. The fight could have gone either way leonard up by one, draw or hagler up by one, it was that damn close.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

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Originally Posted by The Fightfan

I always take a lashing from people when I say my score's so here goes. I had it 8 to 4 for Hagler. Yes I am one of those people who think Hagler was robbed.Yes Leonard racked up points but remember this is the pro's not amatuer's. IMO If Hagler hadn't of pressed their would have been no fight.To me this fight will go down as Ali Frazier II a robbery.

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Because you post your scores you get a lashing? It should be the other way around. People who post one sentence to bullshiet and pretend should be the ones who get a lashing. Do your work and phuk the biatches that lash at you, lash back bro. I had no problem posting my score with notes and neither should you. You see a lot of these guys get in a thread and dont say anything, they pretend and they will say yes I seen this and I saw that and just post something they saw on another forum ;D like that 16 year old punk named leftylea. Don't let some of these punks get to you, you have to understand most of them are little 60 lbs wimps who cant fight a lick on the streets and they get bad on line. E - Soldiers E-Thugs are like Studio Gangstas and thus fear them not.

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No I don't mean on the boards in the gym's around the area

Quality fight,but you could flip the score,I thought at the time Hagler had squeeked it out

I scored this 2 days ago on fightjudge.com.

115-113 for Hagler.

Digging for the gnarled up yellow labled Tape on the shelf Lol. I had Leonard winning this by 2 and timing things out.Shame no rematch.

Question who promoted the Fight, theres a clue there ;D

I've watched the fight maybe 50 times... and each time I have Leonard winning a close decision.

You can talk about Leonard having the size of ring, gloves and distance of the fight as he wanted but Hagler had to agree to these conditions and he still took the fight.

5 years with only one unimpressive fight for Leoanrd and fighting a natural middleweight. Is anyone suprised Leonard used hit and run tactics... he would have been plain stupid to stand and slug it out with Hagler for these reasons.

Hagler must have known the tactics Leonard would use and to me if he could not devise a plan to beat those tactics then that's a failing on his part. Before the fight Hagler told everyone to stay in their seats as the fight did not neccesarily have to go 12 rounds. He also said that he was going to hurt Leonard. Yet when it came to the fight he played straight into Leonards hands and gifted Ray the first 4 rounds.

Yes Leonard was exhausted at the end of the fight... 1 fight in five years will do that to you.

Was Hagler robbed maybe... but not by Leonard or the judges. He was robbed by himself and his team for not having a plan to beat a fighter he knew would hit and run.

Leoanrd messed with Haglers head before the fight... which may have affected Haglers game plan... he messed with his head during the fight... feigning exhaustion at times to confuse Hagler... which deffo affected HAglers game plan... he messed with his head after the fight and that for a while affected Haglers life.

Two great fighters but as the record states Leonard by decision.

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Originally Posted by Scrap

Question who promoted the Fight, theres a clue there ;D

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Wasnt it Bob Arum?