Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
Just go ahead and hang up the gloves. He has no leverage now for anybody to fight him, he is 38, and to lazy to go down in weight.
Don't be a hater. Toney whipped Peter. He wa clearly robbed and he'd probably come back and KO Peter if they would give him a rematch. Peter knew that he didn't win it. That's why he was kissing up to Toney.
I wasnt hating, I was routing for Toney. He is the most skilled heavy out there. He doesnt have the power to KO Peter anytime. When they announced the Peter as the winner you can tell that he was surprised to hear his name. My point was that I dont think any of the belt holders will give him a chance to fight for their belts. He is not in a position to force anybody to make a fight. That was my point, no hating involved.
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
Just go ahead and hang up the gloves. He has no leverage now for anybody to fight him, he is 38, and to lazy to go down in weight.
Don't be a hater. Toney whipped Peter. He wa clearly robbed and he'd probably come back and KO Peter if they would give him a rematch. Peter knew that he didn't win it. That's why he was kissing up to Toney.
I dont think TyBuff was hating there. Its just that Toney's options are now somewhat limited and its unlikely the Peter camp will want a rematch until after he's had his title shot....
Decisions like this are always VERY dissapointing....
cc. No hating involved, just dont think Toney has any options for a title. I think he would be VERY LUCKY to get any shot now.
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
Just go ahead and hang up the gloves. He has no leverage now for anybody to fight him, he is 38, and to lazy to go down in weight.
Don't be a hater. Toney whipped Peter. He wa clearly robbed and he'd probably come back and KO Peter if they would give him a rematch. Peter knew that he didn't win it. That's why he was kissing up to Toney.
I dont think TyBuff was hating there. Its just that Toney's options are now somewhat limited and its unlikely the Peter camp will want a rematch until after he's had his title shot....
Decisions like this are always VERY dissapointing....
Maybe so, but Peter shouldn't habe many options if anyone. He sucks. He's slow. Toney whipped him all night and Peter never really did much. Toney should try to protest the decision like he said and Toney-Peter II should happen soon. Even if not very soon, I'm sure that Peter will lose the championship match. Goosen should look to see who else Toney could fight. Now, what Toney should do is to think seriously about even getting into better shape. There is no way that he should retire. He showed that he could beat big heavies. Maybe I'd like to see Toney-Klitchsko.
I dont think that there is any doubt that Toney can beat 99% of the heavies out there. I think the only ones that would give him problems would be:
Wlad - good boxing abilities and power, close to a 8" height advantage
Leykhovich (sp) - liked his boxing abilities against Brewster. Less of a threat than Wlad
Valuev - the shear height and reach advantage.
As long as the judges can judge then Toney beats the rest of the heavies out there with ease.
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
JT should get a rematch with Peter then fight Maskaev for the belt. Or fight another contender then fight the winner of Peter vs Maskaev if it goes ahead.
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
Just go ahead and hang up the gloves. He has no leverage now for anybody to fight him, he is 38, and to lazy to go down in weight.
Don't be a hater. Toney whipped Peter. He wa clearly robbed and he'd probably come back and KO Peter if they would give him a rematch. Peter knew that he didn't win it. That's why he was kissing up to Toney.
I wasnt hating, I was routing for Toney. He is the most skilled heavy out there. He doesnt have the power to KO Peter anytime. When they announced the Peter as the winner you can tell that he was surprised to hear his name. My point was that I dont think any of the belt holders will give him a chance to fight for their belts. He is not in a position to force anybody to make a fight. That was my point, no hating involved.
It was a valid point... he's just a fan boy... had 'The peoples champ' shit in his sig for years... i thought Toney won on saturday but that doesn't mean your point isn't valid.
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I hope Peter gives Toney an immediate rematch, if not Toney should try to get Wlad. But I would love to see him in there with Valuev. He has to go after big fights though!!!
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I don't see him as having no options, how many people actually think Peter won ??? There are people that think Toney won a competitive but clear decision, the majority of people, and then some that say it was so close that a Toney win, a draw, or maybe a very close decision for Peter would have been okay. How many people actually think Peter won an outright clear decision.
He's still a draw and he's still clearly one of the top five heavyweights out there. Does he have just endless options, probably not, but I don't see him as being totally out of the mix now.
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
He was on Decca for a torn-bicep injury from a previous fight!! It's not as if he was on a stacking-cycle to bulk-up. Really strange how yet another BitchKO'd nutlicker throws stones from a glass house. Both of the Homochloes were on juice. Why do you think Dr. IRONPUSSY had to retire so early on?
Toney would school Klitschko. I hope Wladdy is stupid enough to take the fight. ::**
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Re: Where does Toney go from here?
Imagine IF YOU WILL...Sam Peter's punches thrown straighter and with more pop and from farther away.....I don't think Toney has a chance vs Wlad. What's James going to do outbox him??? Chris Byrd couldn't do it and he's got a hell of a chin (he beat David Tua, he stood up after Ibeabuchi nearly took his head clean off)...James' opposition vs Heavyweight PUNCHERS has gotten better but Wlad's power is just a little bit better than Peter's
Vitali had to retire due to injuries from 1) a long amateur career 2) really brutal fights 3) a kick boxing career 4) He's big and his body wore out...if he was juicing he'd still be fighting wouldn't he??? DOUCHE
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
He was on Decca for a torn-bicep injury from a previous fight!! It's not as if he was on a stacking-cycle to bulk-up. Really strange how yet another BitchKO'd nutlicker throws stones from a glass house. Both of the Homochloes were on juice. Why do you think Dr. IRONPUSSY had to retire so early on?
Toney would school Klitschko. I hope Wladdy is stupid enough to take the fight. ::**
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Fukoff fat ass dough boy. ;D You are another BitchKO'd nutlicker that can't see the Milksisters doing any wrong. Toney would probably knock that little china-chined
pole-smoker out. And this you know to be the truth!!! ;) That Pabst Blue Ribbon has not only gone to your waist, but it's also rendered your faculties mush. Although I suspect they weren't all there to begin with. :liar: :moon:
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
james is crazy so don't count him out yet, he'll pop up again sometime soon
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Faculties???
Listen here McDumbass Wlad has beaten every heavyweight of note in the current division and the ones he hasn't fought won't stand much of a chance IF they do step in the ring with him.
...apparently it's true the Irish are stubborn AND stupid
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Imagine IF YOU WILL...Sam Peter's punches thrown straighter and with more pop and from farther away.....I don't think Toney has a chance vs Wlad. What's James going to do outbox him??? Chris Byrd couldn't do it and he's got a hell of a chin (he beat David Tua, he stood up after Ibeabuchi nearly took his head clean off)...James' opposition vs Heavyweight PUNCHERS has gotten better but Wlad's power is just a little bit better than Peter's
Vitali had to retire due to injuries from 1) a long amateur career 2) really brutal fights 3) a kick boxing career 4) He's big and his body wore out...if he was juicing he'd still be fighting wouldn't he??? DOUCHE
You don't think Toney has a chance against Wladdy because you are an imbecile! Did Toney get knocked all over the ring like a little biatch like Wladdy? And this was when Peter was real green!! Peter grazed Wladdy with a hook and pulled another Judah. ::**Why didn't Vitali get into the Olympics, Lyle? Steroids. Why was he so prone to injury and plagued by numerous injuries? Steroids
He's a product of the Old Soviet Block Regime, where steroid use was rampant. Unless you feel some sort of slavic kinship with these fighters, which would explain a lot, then you are just a completely dillusional simp.
Little milksister's power is "a little bit better than Peter's" ::** ::** How the fuk would you know? Look at both of the Milksister's deformed foreheads - they are both, or were, on rGH. It's shameful that your inability to use reason has tainted your ardent (and quite curious) admiration for two cheats who are nothing but a disgrace to the sport. ::**
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Faculties???
Listen here McDumbass Wlad has beaten every heavyweight of note in the current division and the ones he hasn't fought won't stand much of a chance IF they do step in the ring with him.
...apparently it's true the Irish are stubborn AND stupid
Wow!! Lyle is a southern bigot!! How original!! Do you even know what you are you stupid fukin inbread piece of excrement? It's inbread little southern confederate flag wielding cocksmokers like yourself that put your cousins in office. ::** Remember that when your fatass is sitting down drinking your Aunt/Mother's moonshne and waxing poetic about the glory days of the Klan and how aroused you get whenever your cousin Bertha comes near you. ;)
Re: Where does Toney go from here?
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
You don't think Toney has a chance against Wladdy because you are an imbecile! Did Toney get knocked all over the ring like a little biatch like Wladdy....
Dude. Toney has no chance against Wlad. The fact that Toney is feather fisted as a heavyweight only makes it a certainty.
Your wrong
