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Originally Posted by Munky
We make god in our own image.
I hate to think what bilbos looks like :-X
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CCQuote:
Originally Posted by Munky
We make god in our own image.
I hate to think what bilbos looks like :-X
Newtons law of gravity holds perfectly fine here on earth. It is regarded as a law in relation to things here on earth and therefore you will never go flying out of that tree. Not unless you get some kind of super storm to neutralise the gravity pull upon you for a limited time..Quote:
Originally Posted by Missy
But the main question is, why on earth are you in the tree Missy? :-\ ;D
Probably gold and shaped like a magic ring! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Missy
Right, Miles is out of the house!!!!
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HI Missy,
Thanks for your interesting commentr but unfortunately you have only the vaguest notion about what evolution actually is and so confuse natural selection with macro evolution.
The changes you rightyl observe in humans and of course other animal and plant species are results of natural selection, and I completely and 100% agree that natural selection is clearly a demonstrable process, mankind has been using natural selction for thousands of years, the domestication of animals, crops etc.
However all of these changes that occur within a species can occur because the gentic information, the code if you like to allow for these changes is already present in the organism.
So for exampe when selectively breeding dogs, a breeder will pair one typr of dog with another, the male and female dog both contributing half of the chromosome's and genetic material each.
Thus you can isolate certain traits and characteristics within dog species by selective breeding to produce all kinds of weird and wonderful looking dogs.
Eventually however, and in complete contrast to evolutionary theory, if you isolate dog kind enough so that end up with for example a poodle, what happend is that there is now just not much information within that gene pool. The genes have been isolated to the degree that there is now not enough genetic informtation in the dog for it to 'evolve' any further.
AS you will well know, pure pedigree dogs such as this are usally far less healthy than mongrel dogs with a healthy mix of genes, they live shorter lives and in many cases can no longer breed.
In order to create any further change in this species it has to be mated to a completely different type of dog in order to reintroduce some genetic variety back into the species.
This of course runs in complete counter to evolutionary theory and simply makes it impossible for a dog to evolve into something that isn't a dog.
These are very basic laws of biology of which Darwin, writing in the 1800's obviously had no idea.
We know now for a fact that natural selection alone cannot account for macro evolution, that is the creation of new material and genetic information into an organism that wasn't already present.
Instead of just dismissing creationism as rubbish and saying evolution is clearly true I offer you the same challenge.
Go to an evolutionary wesbite and find a single example of macro evolution, that is new information being added to an organism that leads to it becoming a new species of animal.
As the whole of life on earth occurred this way you would expect for there to be many documented examples but strangely there are none whatosever.
I will say that again, and challenge you to prove me wrong, There is not a single example in the entire evolutionary literature of new information appearing in an organisms genetic code that was not already there.
This alone destroys evolutionary theory.
Instead of just saying evolution is true creationism is rubbish try and refute my arguements ;)
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Actually this motorcycle example is heavily biased in favour of evolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgame
To be completely fair the evolutionist would have to create the motorcycle components and the dynamite, plus the match, the driveway and the necessary atmospheric conditions out of completly nothing first of all before he could even begin to start the experiment proper.
Any scientist achieves this and hey I'll become a believer :o ;D
By the way I'd love for someone to comment on my dinosaur pics.
Pretty amazing I think, anyone want to discredit them?
:rasta: You convinced my country ass Bilbo :rasta: :shocking:Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
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Actually I would like to add the tremendous amount of legends of men "slaying dragons". They are numerous and very very widespread legends and stories. These "dragon" tales range from the fire breathing kind to water dragons that lived in lakes.
here's a good site about "dinosaurs"
http://www.drdino.com/downloads.php?type=Seminar+Video
click on "Dinosaurs and the Bible"
yes it is a Biblical account but it is very interesting.
I find the evidence that man and dinosaurs lived contemporary with each other to be compelling, I'm glad to see someone else who agrees.Quote:
Originally Posted by luvfightgame
There is such a wealth of documentary evidence to suggest this that you have to be practically walking around with your eyes closed not to see it.
With recent discoveries of unfossilised dinosaur bones discovered in America, and T Rex bone fragments that appear to even still contain traces of red blood cells, the idea of millions of years seperation just seems too hard to swallow.
Furthermore when you consider the huge lumbering beasts that Richard Owen imagined dinosaurs to be in the 1800's it is absoultely remarkable that ancient man, who quite cleary would have less anatomical knowledge than paleontologists in the late 1800's describe dinosaurs in ways that match our very modern understanding of them. Creatures are described with crests, and frills, being brightly and diversly coloured, descriptions that would have been balked at just 30 years ago.
Now evolutionists are redesigning dinosaurs and rexamining how they looked and behaved, and more and more the ancient descriptions of dragons seem to closely resemble actual dinosaurs.
:rasta: I am in Agreement ! the dinosaurs sure as hell din't draw them pictures ! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
what does carbon dating say about ancient man's and dinosaur's bones? Maybe I'm misinformed, but I was always of the opinion that they were way off.
They don't use carbon dating to test fossil bones as supposedly the bones are millions of years old.
Carbon dating is only accurate back to around 5000 years and can be used another 5000 or so years beyond that with caution.
When it comes calculating dates of millions of year they use other radiometric dating methods with the potassium/argon method being the most commonly used.
Of course the dates given by such methods can never be verified however when the dating methods are used on rocks that we know for certain how old they are they show themselves to be way off.
One example from Hawaai. Researchers tested a lava flow known to have taken place in 1800 using the potassium/argon method.
The rocks were dated using this method as being nearly 3,000 million years old, somewhat older than the actual 200 years.
Nowadays dinosaur bones are dated by the rocks that they are found in, and the rocks are dated by the animals that are found buried in them, a rather bizarre self perpetuating circular argument.
Furthermore actual research into geological processes in action today clearly falsify the evidence for evolution.
For example the Grand Canyon is supposed to be 2000 million years old, the result of erosion from the Colarado river.
Yet when Mt St Helens, a tiny little volcano erupted in 1980 it carved out a canyon over 100 ft deep and over 100 ft wide in a single afternoon. This is 1/40 th the size of the the Grand Canyon.
So if it took just a few hours to do that how hard is it to assume that similar catastrophic events could not have shaped the grand canyon itself in just a matter of thousands of years rather than the millions evolutionists imply?
Wow we got some think tanks on this board ! very very impressive guys ! i am truly amazed at the knowledge you guys have on all this shit ~ ! I love reading about this stuff. a round of Cool Clicks for everyone ! O0
Well in Jurassic Park they had the dinosaurs contained within massive security fences, guns, drugs, and all of todays modern technology and yet the dinosaurs still kicked mans ass...Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
If you're right, ;D i feel sorry for the poor cunts taking them on with sticks and stones. God must of been pissing himself.