margarito vs. the welterweights

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10-10-2006, 04:25 AM
OumaFan

Re: margarito vs. the welterweights

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

The 1 thing I will say is that PBF is the most complete fighter I have seen in years and definitely,talent wise,by a fooking mile,the best fighter of this generation,nothing blinds me to that fact. If he was to fight Tony,I'd make Floyd a big favourite, but it's just a fight I really want to see! Forgive me if I beat around the bush with the whole scenario,I just like both fighters alot and want see them get it on but I see where you are coming from,Tony needs more fights,fair enough.

cc gamo for the intellegent post
bad news though, bro...............i think that you might be the only margarito fan that posts on this forum who knows wtf theyre talking about ;)

Nope not big on Tony but I am not big on PBF either and if I had to bet on either one, I would bet on Tony. But that will never happen cus PBF es una gallina. pluck..pluck..pluck.

Just tell me with all your heart and soul that the fight they are calling 'Pretty Risky' is all that? RISK?

Is this really a risky fight for PBF? I don't see the risk. Explain what chances El Abuelito (Tata) Baldomir has against PBF?

I know there are a lot of PBF nuttys here, one of you explain it to me.

hes the undisputed welterweight champion of the world who is something like

19-0-1 with 18 knockouts in the past 8 years or something like that, and he has beat quality opposition in his career, like judah and clottey

baldomir is proven, margarito is a big question mark that just lost to a bum 4 fights ago and is now going on to the toughest fight of his career (somebody baldomir already beat ;))

Baldomir beating Judah, even though I think Judah's the ultimate underachieving idiot, is a bigger win than Margarito's ever had. Clearly. But Baldomir didn't really beat Clottey so much as Clottey fucked up. Clottey was on his way to a pretty clear decision over Baldomir till he got stupid and dirty.
10-10-2006, 05:11 AM
Wacko3205

Re: margarito vs. the welterweights

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Just tell me with all your heart and soul that the fight they are calling 'Pretty Risky' is all that? RISK?

I know there are a lot of PBF nuttys here, one of you explain it to me.

Old arguement...easy answer.

Floyd has done exactly what he said he would quite a few years back...he moved up in weight, he beat Gatti, beat Judah like he said...& this was before the Baldo debacle was discussed, & now he's gonna beat Baldo...who is a true welterweight that has been running undefeated for the past 19 or 20 or so fights...IWO...that's pretty good & what he's accomplished is damned impressive.

There are other fights out there for Floyd...but he's taking the best one out there right now.

It says a lot that Hatton wouldnt fight Floyd...but then he would...but then he wouldnt again.

Margarito is hyping himself to be a world beater...& that is something that he is not.

As far as the fight being risky...sure as shit it is...anyone that follows boxing knows that it is...hate or not.

Floyd has moved up undefeated through the weights...hes gotten his belts & hes gotten the recognition...if Baldo were to beat Floyd...it would cost Floyd a lot...so...easy answer...YES...it;s Risky & Baldo does have a chance...no one gave him a chance against Judah...look how that ended...same goes for Gatti...& he TKO;d him.

The Oscar fight is what Floyd is shooting for the most & wants the most...I think that its a mistake.
10-10-2006, 06:47 PM
Jimanuel Boogustus

Re: margarito vs. the welterweights

Iv just managed to spoon up as much video footage of Margarito as i could and i must say...
Whats the big deal.

I'll tell you what the big deal is, he hasn't fought anyone.... Thats it.

I think some people have put 2 & 2 together and come up with 22 ::**

He reminds me of a Tito (bad balance issues) with even less variation, much less speed (Including a riddiculously slow looping right hand) and he seems content to march he's man down, which given my estimation of some of the other fighters @ 147 could prove to give some exciting fights but ultimately he, as some has already stated, is no world beater and he will fail to find that success that makes a fighter "The man".
10-10-2006, 07:37 PM
El Gamo

Re: margarito vs. the welterweights

CC back Frozensolid buT I disagree,I don't know much about boxing and guys like DG and Mick have been fans for much longer so they know what they are talking about. I see Floyd's talent but I am still critical of whom he has fought.

One thing though guys,relax a little more!! I read this thread at uni and could not stop laughing!! Everyone was getting all heated up!Take it easy,hopefully they will fight each other when Tony has fought more names/been more active and when PBF has done his business with Oscar.

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Originally Posted by JimBoogie

Iv just managed to spoon up as much video footage of Margarito as i could and i must say...
Whats the big deal.

I'll tell you what the big deal is, he hasn't fought anyone.... Thats it.

I think some people have put 2 & 2 together and come up with 22 ::**

He reminds me of a Tito (bad balance issues) with even less variation, much less speed (Including a riddiculously slow looping right hand) and he seems content to march he's man down, which given my estimation of some of the other fighters @ 147 could prove to give some exciting fights but ultimately he, as some has already stated, is no world beater and he will fail to find that success that makes a fighter "The man".

I totally disagree from the beginning bro,he' s no Tito nor has he proclaimed to be nor does he fight like him. Margarito has balance issues at times,can be open at times,is huge for a WW,has a decent jab,works head and body brilliantly creating openings,good power,tremendous work ethic,switch hitter,etc. He just asks for a shot at the big time,that is all and I guess he needs to work harder on that but I'm sure he can do it.

My advice to him(if he;s reading this) would be to fight more,beat the rest of the field,then call out the big names,that's the advice Oscar gave him too and it's the right way. I still believe that it is a dangerou dangerous fight for Floyd which is why I want to see it so bad,more dangerous than anyone he's fought since El Temible.
10-10-2006, 11:08 PM
B@rr3r@

Re: margarito vs. the welterweights

Hes shit.....
10-10-2006, 11:31 PM
Majesty

Re: margarito vs. the welterweights

Margarito is a very exciting fighter to watch and he delivers on the opponents he's fought. I agree with that. But here's the main question. Who has he fought? If he;s the best welterweight on the planet can somebody the "best" welterweights he beat while on the way up there?

How long are you going to milk the Cintron victory. Cintron made a career out of knocking out fighters moving up from 140 and naturally smaller then him and beat Teddy Reid. So they threw him in with Margarito because of his record when it was more padded then Margarito's imo.

I agree with some of the things, but along with facts you need to acknowledge every fact.

If he's the greatest welterweight on the planet, answer this question, who were the 'great' welterweights he beat to get there? Because I cant find any on his list.
10-11-2006, 12:01 AM
frozensolid_702

Re: margarito vs. the welterweights

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Margarito is a very exciting fighter to watch and he delivers on the opponents he's fought. I agree with that. But here's the main question. Who has he fought? If he;s the best welterweight on the planet can somebody the "best" welterweights he beat while on the way up there?

How long are you going to milk the Cintron victory. Cintron made a career out of knocking out fighters moving up from 140 and naturally smaller then him and beat Teddy Reid. So they threw him in with Margarito because of his record when it was more padded then Margarito's imo.

I agree with some of the things, but along with facts you need to acknowledge every fact.

If he's the greatest welterweight on the planet, answer this question, who were the 'great' welterweights he beat to get there? Because I cant find any on his list.

very true............

now theres talk of margarito fighting corrales ::**

that is totally ridiculous, imo
corrales WAS a solid lightweight, now hes gonna jump to 147 and margaritos gonna take all kinds of credit for this fight if it comes off

i give margarito a lot more credit for fighting clottey
10-11-2006, 05:47 AM
El Gamo

Re: margarito vs. the welterweights

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Margarito is a very exciting fighter to watch and he delivers on the opponents he's fought. I agree with that. But here's the main question. Who has he fought? If he;s the best welterweight on the planet can somebody the "best" welterweights he beat while on the way up there?

How long are you going to milk the Cintron victory. Cintron made a career out of knocking out fighters moving up from 140 and naturally smaller then him and beat Teddy Reid. So they threw him in with Margarito because of his record when it was more padded then Margarito's imo.

I agree with some of the things, but along with facts you need to acknowledge every fact.

If he's the greatest welterweight on the planet, answer this question, who were the 'great' welterweights he beat to get there? Because I cant find any on his list.

CC,i'll totally go along with that. I just think his list of opponents is not great but it is not filled with bums in my opinion,they are all decent fighters but like you said,he needs to beat more top FIVE contenders rather than beating the top 10(bottom 5) ones.

Personally speaking,I don't milk the Cintron win and nor have I seen any other Margarito fans do so but I just thought it was impressive how he dismantled him. He looked very good.

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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Margarito is a very exciting fighter to watch and he delivers on the opponents he's fought. I agree with that. But here's the main question. Who has he fought? If he;s the best welterweight on the planet can somebody the "best" welterweights he beat while on the way up there?

How long are you going to milk the Cintron victory. Cintron made a career out of knocking out fighters moving up from 140 and naturally smaller then him and beat Teddy Reid. So they threw him in with Margarito because of his record when it was more padded then Margarito's imo.

I agree with some of the things, but along with facts you need to acknowledge every fact.

If he's the greatest welterweight on the planet, answer this question, who were the 'great' welterweights he beat to get there? Because I cant find any on his list.

very true............

now theres talk of margarito fighting corrales ::**

that is totally ridiculous, imo
corrales WAS a solid lightweight, now hes gonna jump to 147 and margaritos gonna take all kinds of credit for this fight if it comes off

i give margarito a lot more credit for fighting clottey

Well lots of fighters have made the jump and even Castillo should and hoppefully will make the jump,I don't really see what is so ridiculous about it. He was killing himself making 135,he should fight closer to his natural weight ie 147. and as for the Clottey fight,Margarito totally deserves credit for fighting him and quite a few members here have admitted that. Clottey is a threat,very dangerous.
10-12-2006, 04:32 AM
memojaras

Re: margarito vs. the welterweights

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margariton ain't all that. every since he beat cintron people have been actin like he's the best in the division. he can't stop PBF juduh mosely or dela hoya

Judah couldn't even beat Baldomir, floyd don't wanna fight him for a number of excuses as for Margarito getting any good (probable to happen) fight soon the only one I would look foward to is Williams vs Margarito
10-12-2006, 04:59 AM
Galaxy

Re: margarito vs. the welterweights

Margarito needs to chase down the winner of Cotto/ Qunitana or a bout with Collazo a win against one of those guys & I'll say Floyd needs to fight him. Thats if he gets past Clottey.
10-12-2006, 09:41 AM
El Gamo

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Margarito needs to chase down the winner of Cotto/ Qunitana or a bout with Collazo a win against one of those guys & I'll say Floyd needs to fight him. Thats if he gets past Clottey.

Yep,I agree with that OR add maybe Mosley or someone to the list.I mean Arum has promised him big fights! I'd loooove to see him fight the winner of Cotto-Quintana!!
10-12-2006, 09:55 AM
Galaxy

Re: margarito vs. the welterweights

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

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Originally Posted by galaxy76

Margarito needs to chase down the winner of Cotto/ Qunitana or a bout with Collazo a win against one of those guys & I'll say Floyd needs to fight him. Thats if he gets past Clottey.

Yep,I agree with that OR add maybe Mosley or someone to the list.I mean Arum has promised him big fights! I'd loooove to see him fight the winner of Cotto-Quintana!!

Yeah Mosley would be great but I don't know what that dudes up to (should have fought Floyd this year). You put victories over Clottey, & anyone of those other guys mentioned on Margaritos resume & I guarantee Floyd steps in the ring with him!

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