Re: Calzaghe: Give me Hopkins next
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Joe Calzaghe says he'd willingly go to America to fight ring great Bernard Hopkins.
The "Executioner" is currently in retirement at the age of 41 after a sensational career, but has dropped hints that he might return.
The Phildadelphia stylist has said he'd consider coming back for a crack at the world heavyweight title.
But Calzaghe would love to see him come back at a lower weight for a superfight that could cement the Welshman's legacy.
Speaking on new ITV documentary No Average Joe (Thursday October 12 at 2200 BST) he said: "Ideally I would love to fight Bernard Hopkins - he's a true champion. If that was to happen, I would go to America."
"Of course I'd love to fight in America, but if it's right. If it's right for me and I get the right opponent."
http://www.itv-boxing.com/News/Story...584436,00.html
Very interesting fight BUT Joe C. so called reign will be over the day he steps in that ring with B-Hop.
suprisingly enough, mick.........................im gonna go ahead and disagree with you on this one ;)
joe c puts b-hop (a true legend) into certain retirement with a lopsided loss if this fight were to ever come off at this stage in bernards career.
too much ability, too much activity on joes part to lose this one.......imho
joe calzaghe (who is way underrated by just about EVERYBODY) in a way lopsided decision in this one
Because B-hop is not in the actual screen fighting doesn't mean hes not active, as you very well may know B-Hop is a gym rat, hes there day & night sun, rain or shine.
The only thing that just popped in my head is that whole GBP 'East' thing that hes got going...... :( that might have kept him awat from the gym a bit. But even then B-hops style of fighting is just always in tact hes ready to adapt to ANYBODYS style, Joe would be no different from the rest.
joe c has got RIDICULOUS skills (even above hopkins, imo) and the size, strength, and the speed, to boot. Joe Calzaghe is a bad ass boy, and hes going to be the true legend killer if he ever gets a chance to prove it..............but nobodys gonna give him the chance.....its bad for the sport, imo cuz joe c.'s got crazy skills that may be "all time" status :P
Re: Calzaghe: Give me Hopkins next
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Joe Calzaghe says he'd willingly go to America to fight ring great Bernard Hopkins.
The "Executioner" is currently in retirement at the age of 41 after a sensational career, but has dropped hints that he might return.
The Phildadelphia stylist has said he'd consider coming back for a crack at the world heavyweight title.
But Calzaghe would love to see him come back at a lower weight for a superfight that could cement the Welshman's legacy.
Speaking on new ITV documentary No Average Joe (Thursday October 12 at 2200 BST) he said: "Ideally I would love to fight Bernard Hopkins - he's a true champion. If that was to happen, I would go to America."
"Of course I'd love to fight in America, but if it's right. If it's right for me and I get the right opponent."
http://www.itv-boxing.com/News/Story...584436,00.html
Very interesting fight BUT Joe C. so called reign will be over the day he steps in that ring with B-Hop.
suprisingly enough, mick.........................im gonna go ahead and disagree with you on this one ;)
joe c puts b-hop (a true legend) into certain retirement with a lopsided loss if this fight were to ever come off at this stage in bernards career.
too much ability, too much activity on joes part to lose this one.......imho
joe calzaghe (who is way underrated by just about EVERYBODY) in a way lopsided decision in this one
Because B-hop is not in the actual screen fighting doesn't mean hes not active, as you very well may know B-Hop is a gym rat, hes there day & night sun, rain or shine.
The only thing that just popped in my head is that whole GBP 'East' thing that hes got going...... :( that might have kept him awat from the gym a bit. But even then B-hops style of fighting is just always in tact hes ready to adapt to ANYBODYS style, Joe would be no different from the rest.
joe c has got RIDICULOUS skills (even above hopkins, imo) and the size, strength, and the speed, to boot. Joe Calzaghe is a bad ass boy, and hes going to be the true legend killer if he ever gets a chance to prove it..............but nobodys gonna give him the chance.....its bad for the sport, imo cuz joe c.'s got crazy skills that may be "all time" status :P
I agree Joes showed tremendous skills as far as ring smarts & speed but B-Hop does have ring tactics far superior then Joes, B-Hop regardless of of what happend in the Jermain fights he really hasnt been beaten in yrs. in the sense of a beating if you know what I mean.
Re: Calzaghe: Give me Hopkins next
Hopkins is to savy for Calzaghe IMO... a scholling like Tarver got shall I say!
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Hopkins made his legacy and retired with it, Calzaghe is still working on his ;)
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Hopkins made his legacy and retired with it, Calzaghe is still working on his ;)
Well said girl
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Re: Calzaghe: Give me Hopkins next
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Calzaghe pulling a Tarver trying to make Hopkins move down is he? How about Calzaghe move up, so that when he loses he can still keep his titles. And I have no clue why you think that Hopkins somehow dodged Calzaghe. You'd have a better chance saying that James Toney dodged him too. But whenever I heard of Calzaghe on other sites a few years ago, he was always calling out someone called Chicken Ottke. So I don't see how Hopkins dodged him.
The last time I saw it, it was Tarver coming down off the blubberman kick....
You are showing a complete ignorance of boxing with this shite you are saying. Hopkins could have faced Calzaghe years ago. But he didnt. And he wont ever.
You have seen Calzaghe fight perhaps 2 times max....get an education!!! ;D
Prove to me that Calzaghe tried to make that fight with Hopkins. Because it sounds like you're taking opinion and assumption and trying to make it fact. And downgrading me won't prove a point. Unless you can prove fact that Calzaghe tried to make that fight. And I dont mean an interview where Calzaghe said "I would like to fight Hopkins, Toney all of them." I mean an actual attempt at a purse bit that his promoter and Hopkins promoter(whether it was Dibella, or Duva at the time) tried to make. Until then you only have your opinion which you're entitled to. But don't try to pass it off as fact and try to make yourself look big by trying to diss me. You will just make an ass out of yourself and we don't need that.
Here's the proof Gus. Hope this helps. ;)
Calzaghe: I'll fight Hopkins anywhere
Friday July 4, 2003
Joe Calzaghe, the World Boxing Organisation super-middleweight champion, is prepared to travel to the United States to face the world's No1 middleweight Bernard Hopkins in what is seen as a career-defining fight for the undefeated Welshman.
"This is the fight I have wanted above all others for the last few years," he said, "and it is the one the boxing world wants."
Since Calzaghe's two-round win over the highly rated Byron Mitchell in Cardiff on Saturday, Hopkins, 38, has said he would be prepared step up to super-middleweight and face him, but only if the fight takes place before the end of next January and only if it is in the US.
"I have no problems taking the fight on his territory," said the 31-year-old Calzaghe. "My message to him is: 'You want it, you got it.' He can have it anywhere and any time."
Hopkins' promoter Don King and Calzaghe's backer Frank Warren reached agreement for a fight last year, and the US television station Showtime was prepared to underwrite the event. But after a $3m (£1.8m) payday had been agreed, the fight fell through when Hopkins doubled his purse demands.
Warren has confirmed he is trying to reopen negotiations. "But he has had opportunities to make money since [beating Felix] Trinidad [in 2001] and has walked away. He is the only fighter I know who seems hell-bent on going from Park Lane to Brick Lane."
Calzaghe underlined his determination to get the fight, laying down a challenge to Hopkins. "Don't find an excuse to let our fight slip away," he said. "I have taken up your challenge to face you in America, so honour your words."
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/boxing/s...991029,00.html
Re: Calzaghe: Give me Hopkins next
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
Hopkins is to savy for Calzaghe IMO... a scholling like Tarver got shall I say!
nah that would never happen calzaghe wouldnt get schooled by anyone
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Calzaghe would beat Hopkins for the same reason Roy Jones did and would have beaten Hopkins again....
Too much natural ability (something the ol Nard lacks) - All the ring savy in the world wouldn't help him :)
Re: Calzaghe: Give me Hopkins next
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Thing is Hopkins is retired so to make a Calzaghe fight ain't that easy, its fine for Calzaghe to start calling out Hopkins now that hes retired. Why doesn't Calzaghe call out Taylor or Wright who are both active. If Hopkins comes back he wants a challenge & IMO taking on the heavies is a bigger challenge than a super-middleweight.
He calls them out all the time.
"I would love to come out and fight," Calzaghe said. "I thought if the title fight was going to happen, then I would have come to America then and fight with Hopkins. Even if the fight was with Winky Wright or Jermain Taylor, yes, I would be willing to come. But unfortunately those people are sort of eluding me because Roy Jones got himself beat and Hopkins has retired. So we will have to wait and see. But it would be great to fight at least one fight in America." http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=2621395
Oh and as you can see on a previous post of mine Calzaghe has been calling out Hopkins for years, he hasn't waited until Hopkins retired. ;)
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calzaghe will beat wright if he moves up and taylor and he will beat hopkins ;)
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calzaghe will beat wright if he moves up and taylor and he will beat hopkins ;)
Agreed. For the time being Calzaghe edges each of them...
Re: Calzaghe: Give me Hopkins next
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Calzaghe pulling a Tarver trying to make Hopkins move down is he? How about Calzaghe move up, so that when he loses he can still keep his titles. And I have no clue why you think that Hopkins somehow dodged Calzaghe. You'd have a better chance saying that James Toney dodged him too. But whenever I heard of Calzaghe on other sites a few years ago, he was always calling out someone called Chicken Ottke. So I don't see how Hopkins dodged him.
The last time I saw it, it was Tarver coming down off the blubberman kick....
You are showing a complete ignorance of boxing with this shite you are saying. Hopkins could have faced Calzaghe years ago. But he didnt. And he wont ever.
You have seen Calzaghe fight perhaps 2 times max....get an education!!! ;D
Prove to me that Calzaghe tried to make that fight with Hopkins. Because it sounds like you're taking opinion and assumption and trying to make it fact. And downgrading me won't prove a point. Unless you can prove fact that Calzaghe tried to make that fight. And I dont mean an interview where Calzaghe said "I would like to fight Hopkins, Toney all of them." I mean an actual attempt at a purse bit that his promoter and Hopkins promoter(whether it was Dibella, or Duva at the time) tried to make. Until then you only have your opinion which you're entitled to. But don't try to pass it off as fact and try to make yourself look big by trying to diss me. You will just make an ass out of yourself and we don't need that.
Here's the proof Gus. Hope this helps. ;)
Calzaghe: I'll fight Hopkins anywhere
Friday July 4, 2003
Joe Calzaghe, the World Boxing Organisation super-middleweight champion, is prepared to travel to the United States to face the world's No1 middleweight Bernard Hopkins in what is seen as a career-defining fight for the undefeated Welshman.
"This is the fight I have wanted above all others for the last few years," he said, "and it is the one the boxing world wants."
Since Calzaghe's two-round win over the highly rated Byron Mitchell in Cardiff on Saturday, Hopkins, 38, has said he would be prepared step up to super-middleweight and face him, but only if the fight takes place before the end of next January and only if it is in the US.
"I have no problems taking the fight on his territory," said the 31-year-old Calzaghe. "My message to him is: 'You want it, you got it.' He can have it anywhere and any time."
Hopkins' promoter Don King and Calzaghe's backer Frank Warren reached agreement for a fight last year, and the US television station Showtime was prepared to underwrite the event. But after a $3m (£1.8m) payday had been agreed, the fight fell through when Hopkins doubled his purse demands.
Warren has confirmed he is trying to reopen negotiations. "But he has had opportunities to make money since [beating Felix] Trinidad [in 2001] and has walked away. He is the only fighter I know who seems hell-bent on going from Park Lane to Brick Lane."
Calzaghe underlined his determination to get the fight, laying down a challenge to Hopkins. "Don't find an excuse to let our fight slip away," he said. "I have taken up your challenge to face you in America, so honour your words."
http://sport.guardian.co.uk/boxing/s...991029,00.html
CC Fenster,you nailed that one!
Re: Calzaghe: Give me Hopkins next
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Thing is Hopkins is retired so to make a Calzaghe fight ain't that easy, its fine for Calzaghe to start calling out Hopkins now that hes retired. Why doesn't Calzaghe call out Taylor or Wright who are both active. If Hopkins comes back he wants a challenge & IMO taking on the heavies is a bigger challenge than a super-middleweight.
He calls them out all the time.
"I would love to come out and fight," Calzaghe said. "I thought if the title fight was going to happen, then I would have come to America then and fight with Hopkins. Even if the fight was with Winky Wright or Jermain Taylor, yes, I would be willing to come. But unfortunately those people are sort of eluding me because Roy Jones got himself beat and Hopkins has retired. So we will have to wait and see. But it would be great to fight at least one fight in America."
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=2621395
Oh and as you can see on a previous post of mine Calzaghe has been calling out Hopkins for years, he hasn't waited until Hopkins retired. ;)
Good points bro, but in my book its one thing to say sh*t & another to do it. Action speak louder than words shall we say. Either way Calzaghe fights Hopkins he loses, same goes for if he fights Wright. I think he beats Taylor though.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
Thing is Hopkins is retired so to make a Calzaghe fight ain't that easy, its fine for Calzaghe to start calling out Hopkins now that hes retired. Why doesn't Calzaghe call out Taylor or Wright who are both active. If Hopkins comes back he wants a challenge & IMO taking on the heavies is a bigger challenge than a super-middleweight.
He calls them out all the time.
"I would love to come out and fight," Calzaghe said. "I thought if the title fight was going to happen, then I would have come to America then and fight with Hopkins. Even if the fight was with Winky Wright or Jermain Taylor, yes, I would be willing to come. But unfortunately those people are sort of eluding me because Roy Jones got himself beat and Hopkins has retired. So we will have to wait and see. But it would be great to fight at least one fight in America."
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...dan&id=2621395
Oh and as you can see on a previous post of mine Calzaghe has been calling out Hopkins for years, he hasn't waited until Hopkins retired. ;)
Good points bro, but in my book its one thing to say sh*t & another to do it. Action speak louder than words shall we say. Either way Calzaghe fights Hopkins he loses, same goes for if he fights Wright. I think he beats Taylor though.
Would you care to break down why exactly Wright or Hopkins beat Calzaghe at this stage in their careers?
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