Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
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Originally Posted by BodyHead
You are really an idiot making stupid a** crazy comments like this...
Oscar is among the elite in boxing.. among the vintage crop of fighters that truely became ppv worthy and made the real money in this sport...
and your insane claims about his ability and that he hasnt fought anyone of relevence makes me laugh..
he is a great textbook boxer and an olympic gold medalist... with the most incredible amatuer record i have ever seen...
it is somewhere along the lines of 220 wins 200 knockouts 8 losses and a gold medal.... he was a star before he was even professional!
and he fought some of the greatest fighters of this last generation and those who werent in the greatest catagory were true contenders not like these false contenders that you find top ten ranked today..
he beat the likes of julio cesar chavez, pernell whittaker( close fight but its on the rec.)
hector camacho, ike qaurtey, oba carr, arturo gatti , vargas , campas , mayorga...
on top of all those fights which were wins... he has still been in with and either truely or alledgedly lost , but none the less fought such great and good fighters as trinidad mosely and hopkins..
and is a 6 wieght world champion....
And you claim he is garbage?
there is no other way but to describe your remarks as utterly insane!!
if his career is garbage ... then how in the world do you as a person compare to his profession?
you just cannot.. oscar probably has three times the amounts of accomplishments for each year of your life!!
which just makes you in significant and make you the garbage
enjoy this ;)
:sadclick:
Word. :coolclick:
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
Gatti was dangerous because he had more power at a bigger weight class and was a blood and guts fighter......Corrales was just undefeated...simple as that
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
Sorry Albsur,I respect your posts usually but this is the most absurd thing I have heard! I'm not even a big Oscar fan but look at his resume!?! Look at who he has fought,I think it is far far superior to PBF's! Secondly you make out as if Oscar NEEDS PBF!?! Hell nooooooo! Oscar does not need anyone! PBF needs him! Oscar calls the shots,he has worked much much harder than anyone else to put himself in that position,so i don't really see what the point of this thread was. You may not like him but I think as a boxing fan,I have to repsect the guy.
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
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Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
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Originally Posted by BodyHead
You are really an idiot making stupid a** crazy comments like this...
Oscar is among the elite in boxing.. among the vintage crop of fighters that truely became ppv worthy and made the real money in this sport...
and your insane claims about his ability and that he hasnt fought anyone of relevence makes me laugh..
he is a great textbook boxer and an olympic gold medalist... with the most incredible amatuer record i have ever seen...
it is somewhere along the lines of 220 wins 200 knockouts 8 losses and a gold medal.... he was a star before he was even professional!
and he fought some of the greatest fighters of this last generation and those who werent in the greatest catagory were true contenders not like these false contenders that you find top ten ranked today..
he beat the likes of julio cesar chavez, pernell whittaker( close fight but its on the rec.)
hector camacho, ike qaurtey, oba carr, arturo gatti , vargas , campas , mayorga...
on top of all those fights which were wins... he has still been in with and either truely or alledgedly lost , but none the less fought such great and good fighters as trinidad mosely and hopkins..
and is a 6 wieght world champion....
And you claim he is garbage?
there is no other way but to describe your remarks as utterly insane!!
if his career is garbage ... then how in the world do you as a person compare to his profession?
you just cannot.. oscar probably has three times the amounts of accomplishments for each year of your life!!
which just makes you in significant and make you the garbage
enjoy this ;)
:sadclick:
Word. :coolclick:
lol backatcher brother!!
:P
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
The guy truly sucks. I applaud his shrewd business sense and savvy, but in terms of boxing, ODLH is garbage. He hasn't really ever beat anyone. I don't know what goes on in this guys head, does he really think he is an all-time great? He is talking about enhancing his legacy by fight Trinidad again? WTF!!! Sure beating Mayorga was cool, but I don't think anyone really cared afterwards. If he truly is talking about fighting the best for his retirement then he should only be fighting either Floyd Mayweather or Winky Wright. I'm tired of people confusing ODLH's mass fan appeal with his actual boxing prowess. I think even he is a little delusional. This guy has the nerve to say that he didn't think that the entire PBF card was worth the money. Well, I paid for the fight and while I thought the last half of the PBF-Baldy fight was uneventful, I thought the fight was worth the money. Isn't ODLH the same guy that made a fight with Yory Boy Campas a pay-per-view. He's a F****** hypocrite. Now he's saying that he doesn't want the PBF fight anymore. What the F*** is that? He's afraid of getting thrown in the garbage like Baldomir did. If he doesn't wanna to get embarrassed in his swan song, that's fine, but he shouldn't patronize the public by telling us all that he wants to fight the best. Yeah right, ODLH isn't the best, and he has proven throughout his career that when it's time to step up his game, he fails. He lost against Sugar Shane twice, he lost against Trinidad because he ran like a baby (he even said he regrets it), he got put out by B-Hop, he got a gift decision against Sturm, Quartey, and Whitaker, and he beat a Trinidad-shot Vargas, and a washed up JCC. Who has this guy ever beat? I'm sorry if this seemed like an unfocused rant, but it was, I just had to say something about this fag.
Dear oh dear OH DEAR.
Your on a wind up and out for a reaction.
Go away
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LEt me tell you man this ODLH is as smart as it is first he inks Winky so he doesn't have to fight him then after what PBF did to Baldo he knows he also will have a hard time with PBF and the thing is i'm not a fan of PBF funny huh.
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
Look I'm done arguing my point, I can't respond to every post by myself, THAT WOULD TAKE FOREVER!!! God, I didn't know there were this many people in love with Oscar De La Hoya in this community. Yall win, ODLH is the ruler and master of the universe, ODLH is the best P4P boxer of all-time. Jesus, I'm poking legitimate holes in the guy's record and people are acting like I'm saying ODLH has never fought anyone. For the last time, listen up, I NEVER SAID THAT!!! I'm basically saying that whenever ODLH stepped up his competition he barely skated by on a gift wrapped Christmas present or he lost. Are you people gonna have the nerve to deny this fact and come up with more nonsense? Some of yall like Lyle, Majesty, and a couple others have decent points and I can agree to disagree, but some of yall aren't adding anything, yall are just attacking me personally like I'm the judge that scored the Trinidad fight. Shit. Some of you babies on this thread believe in De La Hoya like you're six and the mother fucker is Santa Claus. Lord, I just had an opinion about the guy. I had fun debating but then people were just attacking my intelligence and didn't even manage to give an opinion on the topic. Fuck that.
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
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He hasn't really ever beat anyone.
Im sorry you were saying something?
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
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Originally Posted by BodyHead
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He hasn't really ever beat anyone.
Im sorry you were saying something?
CAN YOU PEOPLE READ??? F***!!!
Hey guy, does that quote say that he hasn't fought anybody? I said the people that I BELIEVE he truly beat or looked impressive against, were either mid-level talent or washed up. Does that quote say "He hasn't ever fought anyone?" No, it doesn't, back to the drawing board son.
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
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Originally Posted by BodyHead
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He hasn't really ever beat anyone.
Im sorry you were saying something?
CAN YOU PEOPLE READ??? F***!!!
Hey guy, does that quote say that he hasn't fought anybody? I said the people that I BELIEVE he truly beat or looked impressive against, were either mid-level talent or washed up. Does that quote say "He hasn't ever fought anyone?" No, it doesn't, back to the drawing board son.
ok ok sweetcheeks.. keep your hair on....
ok so i was wrong.. you said that....
but what you said was wrong still ;)
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
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Originally Posted by BodyHead
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
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Originally Posted by BodyHead
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He hasn't really ever beat anyone.
Im sorry you were saying something?
CAN YOU PEOPLE READ??? F***!!!
Hey guy, does that quote say that he hasn't fought anybody? I said the people that I BELIEVE he truly beat or looked impressive against, were either mid-level talent or washed up. Does that quote say "He hasn't ever fought anyone?" No, it doesn't, back to the drawing board son.
ok ok sweetcheeks.. keep your hair on....
ok so i was wrong.. you said that....
but what you said was wrong still ;)
Sweetcheeks??? :rotflmao:
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
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Originally Posted by BodyHead
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
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Originally Posted by BodyHead
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He hasn't really ever beat anyone.
Im sorry you were saying something?
CAN YOU PEOPLE READ??? F***!!!
Hey guy, does that quote say that he hasn't fought anybody? I said the people that I BELIEVE he truly beat or looked impressive against, were either mid-level talent or washed up. Does that quote say "He hasn't ever fought anyone?" No, it doesn't, back to the drawing board son.
ok ok sweetcheeks.. keep your hair on....
ok so i was wrong.. you said that....
but what you said was wrong still ;)
Sweetcheeks??? :rotflmao:
well bugger me backwards... you can read and type alright?
couldnt think of a come back.. fact is even if you didnt say he fought noone...
you said the only ones he beat or looked impressive against were mid level or washed up...
and thats not true is it?... exactly... go argue your say on a topic that isnt wrong. period
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My take on ODLH record since 1996:
Ricardo Mayorga 153½ 28-5-1 (Let's not go here please, Mayorga was nothing but a club fighter who Forrest thought he could go toe to toe with)
Bernard Hopkins 156 44-2-1 (He showed up flabby, out of shape, and lost)
Felix Sturm 160 20-0-0 (Christmas came early)
Shane Mosley 154 38-2-0 (Christmas came early for Mosley, but ODLH still couldn't use his physical size advantage to dominate Mosley?)
Yory Boy Campas 153½ 80-5-0 (Come on, and this shit was on PPV, Campas was served up for ODLH on a platter)
Fernando Vargas 154 22-1-0 (Vargas was just like DeLaHoya but worse, fought good fighters well, but came up short against the best of his era)
Javier Castillejo 154 51-4-0 (Quality win over a good fighter)
Arturo Gatti 146 33-4-0 (Just like Vargas but worse)
Shane Mosley 147 34-0-0 (He got outhustled and lost to the smaller man)
Derrell Coley 147 34-1-2 (Who?)
Felix Trinidad 147 35-0-0 (He mysteriously turned into Carl Lewis and paid for it)
Oba Carr 147 48-2-1 (Good quality win)
Ike Quartey 146½ 34-0-1 (Even though I had Quartey winning by one point along with several other people who watched the fight, I will say that this is probably ODLH best win)
Julio Cesar Chavez 144½ 101-2-2 (I don't care what his record says, for god sakes, by this time the wars had caught up with JCC)
Patrick Charpentier 146 27-4-1 (OK?)
Wilfredo Rivera 147 27-2-1 (Decent win)
Hector Camacho 147 63-3-1 (Whoever took Camacho seriously as a fighter, the guy padded his record on the east coast with fighters who belong in a nearby dumpster)
David Kamau 146¾ 28-1-0 (Good win)
Pernell Whitaker 146 40-1-1 (Yeah, he barely won this fight against a little cracked out washed up Whitaker, BTW Whitaker lost or no contested his next three fights)
Miguel Angel Gonzalez 140 41-0-0 (Great win at this stage in his career)
Julio Cesar Chavez 139 97-1-1 (Maybe best win of his career)
Darryl Tyson 139 47-8-1 (Filler win)
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
My take on ODLH record since 1996:
Ricardo Mayorga 153½ 28-5-1 (Let's not go here please, Mayorga was nothing but a club fighter who Forrest thought he could go toe to toe with)
Bernard Hopkins 156 44-2-1 (He showed up flabby, out of shape, and lost)
Felix Sturm 160 20-0-0 (Christmas came early)
Shane Mosley 154 38-2-0 (Christmas came early for Mosley, but ODLH still couldn't use his physical size advantage to dominate Mosley?)
Yory Boy Campas 153½ 80-5-0 (Come on, and this shit was on PPV, Campas was served up for ODLH on a platter)
Fernando Vargas 154 22-1-0 (Vargas was just like DeLaHoya but worse, fought good fighters well, but came up short against the best of his era)
Javier Castillejo 154 51-4-0 (Quality win over a good fighter)
Arturo Gatti 146 33-4-0 (Just like Vargas but worse)
Shane Mosley 147 34-0-0 (He got outhustled and lost to the smaller man)
Derrell Coley 147 34-1-2 (Who?)
Felix Trinidad 147 35-0-0 (He mysteriously turned into Carl Lewis and paid for it)
Oba Carr 147 48-2-1 (Good quality win)
Ike Quartey 146½ 34-0-1 (Even though I had Quartey winning by one point along with several other people who watched the fight, I will say that this is probably ODLH best win)
Julio Cesar Chavez 144½ 101-2-2 (I don't care what his record says, for god sakes, by this time the wars had caught up with JCC)
Patrick Charpentier 146 27-4-1 (OK?)
Wilfredo Rivera 147 27-2-1 (Decent win)
Hector Camacho 147 63-3-1 (Whoever took Camacho seriously as a fighter, the guy padded his record on the east coast with fighters who belong in a nearby dumpster)
David Kamau 146¾ 28-1-0 (Good win)
Pernell Whitaker 146 40-1-1 (Yeah, he barely won this fight against a little cracked out washed up Whitaker, BTW Whitaker lost or no contested his next three fights)
Miguel Angel Gonzalez 140 41-0-0 (Great win at this stage in his career)
Julio Cesar Chavez 139 97-1-1 (Maybe best win of his career)
Darryl Tyson 139 47-8-1 (Filler win)
so what was the point in putting in the lesser heard guys and putting who or filler...
i'll tell you why you did it... to fill up your post so that it looks like you have an arguement...
and just the fact that you ridicule people like whitaker camacho and make comments about oscars performance against tito... doesnt make them fights that he didnt win or look good in.. and plus the guys which werent filler guys in that post were all good fighters so you have just spelled out your wrong .. but tried to claim they were bums etc, you cannot win, simply because.. you are not right..
just admit it
Re: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
The guy truly sucks. I applaud his shrewd business sense and savvy, but in terms of boxing, ODLH is garbage. He hasn't really ever beat anyone. I don't know what goes on in this guys head, does he really think he is an all-time great? He is talking about enhancing his legacy by fight Trinidad again? WTF!!! Sure beating Mayorga was cool, but I don't think anyone really cared afterwards. If he truly is talking about fighting the best for his retirement then he should only be fighting either Floyd Mayweather or Winky Wright. I'm tired of people confusing ODLH's mass fan appeal with his actual boxing prowess. I think even he is a little delusional. This guy has the nerve to say that he didn't think that the entire PBF card was worth the money. Well, I paid for the fight and while I thought the last half of the PBF-Baldy fight was uneventful, I thought the fight was worth the money. Isn't ODLH the same guy that made a fight with Yory Boy Campas a pay-per-view. He's a fucking hypocrite. Now he's saying that he doesn't want the PBF fight anymore. What the fuck is that? He's afraid of getting thrown in the garbage like Baldomir did. If he doesn't wanna to get embarrassed in his swan song, that's fine, but he shouldn't patronize the public by telling us all that he wants to fight the best. Yeah right, ODLH isn't the best, and he has proven throughout his career that when it's time to step up his game, he fails. He lost against Sugar Shane twice, he lost against Trinidad because he ran like a baby (he even said he regrets it), he got put out by B-Hop, he got a gift decision against Sturm, Quartey, and Whitaker, and he beat a Trinidad-shot Vargas, and a washed up JCC. Who has this guy ever beat? I'm sorry if this seemed like an unfocused rant, but it was, I just had to say something about this fag.
you're contradicting yourself, you complain that Oscar got gift decisions against Sturm and quartey but make no mention that Tito and Mosley got a gift decision against Oscar.
ODh is a great fighter, his performances and record speaks for itself
