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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
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It's so funny that somebody like Paragon is making up stories about one great warrior like Pacman trying to evade his boy. I thought he was like joking about it.
Man, he's really serious about his boy. Anyway, let us give him the benefit of the doubt.
By the way, Paragon how much did your dad Joan gave you to advertise his name in this forum? I will tell Manny about your fighter and maybe he will ask me about him. How should I describe your dad?lol
Describe him as a decent fighter who's seriously overrated. Don't forget to mention that he's lost his power as he's moved up in weight. He's gone the distance in his last 5 fights and hasn't stopped anybody in over 2 years. He might be of more use as a sparring partner.
I don't think Guzman is overrated at all.. You may have a point about his power, but that's ok.. I think his stamina is his real flaw... Don't forget Morales hadn't stopped anyone in 3 years before last night and you still had hhim by KO pretty confidently.. I don't see why everyone needs to give Guzman absolutely no chance now that Pac beat Erik again.. Who else is going to give him a tougher fight in reality at 130?? Old Barerra? Valero? I don't think they are as good as Guzman at this point, I also think Joan has the best shot to give PAc a hell of a fight with his slick counter shots.. Marquez is the only guy Pac's fought with a comparable style and that was a nightmare for him.. I can understand that he isn't as big a draw as Barerra, so obviously if the chance is there Pac should take that fight.. But otherwise why shouldn't this happen.
P4pking i salute you sir!!, That's real talk right there, These feeble minded, Delusional groupies don't have a clue about the game and their lust for Pac just blinds them of the truth, Guzman would give Pac absolute hell i have no doubt about it, It's clear you've actually seen Guzman's fights unlike these idle folk!!,
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What's your opinion on Edwin Valero and Jorge Linares. Like Guzman there both undefeated. You said Guzman has never lost so he should get a shot at Pac. If that's the case than Valero and Linares should also get a chance to fight Pac. Right?
They're ok but there's a big class difference between Guzman and the likes of Valero and Linares, Guzman is coming towards his prime and i consider his all round game 2nd to Mayweather!!, And yes he's that good, Why are the Pac fans so scared for him to fight Joan?, I mean if Pac's the "best" then it shouldn't be a problem for him should it?,
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Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by rrbong
It's so funny that somebody like Paragon is making up stories about one great warrior like Pacman trying to evade his boy. I thought he was like joking about it.
Man, he's really serious about his boy. Anyway, let us give him the benefit of the doubt.
By the way, Paragon how much did your dad Joan gave you to advertise his name in this forum? I will tell Manny about your fighter and maybe he will ask me about him. How should I describe your dad?lol
Describe him as a decent fighter who's seriously overrated. Don't forget to mention that he's lost his power as he's moved up in weight. He's gone the distance in his last 5 fights and hasn't stopped anybody in over 2 years. He might be of more use as a sparring partner.
I don't think Guzman is overrated at all.. You may have a point about his power, but that's ok.. I think his stamina is his real flaw... Don't forget Morales hadn't stopped anyone in 3 years before last night and you still had hhim by KO pretty confidently.. I don't see why everyone needs to give Guzman absolutely no chance now that Pac beat Erik again.. Who else is going to give him a tougher fight in reality at 130?? Old Barerra? Valero? I don't think they are as good as Guzman at this point, I also think Joan has the best shot to give PAc a hell of a fight with his slick counter shots.. Marquez is the only guy Pac's fought with a comparable style and that was a nightmare for him.. I can understand that he isn't as big a draw as Barerra, so obviously if the chance is there Pac should take that fight.. But otherwise why shouldn't this happen.
P4pking i salute you sir!!, That's real talk right there, These feeble minded, Delusional groupies don't have a clue about the game and their lust for Pac just blinds them of the truth, Guzman would give Pac absolute hell i have no doubt about it, It's clear you've actually seen Guzman's fights unlike these idle folk!!,
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What's your opinion on Edwin Valero and Jorge Linares. Like Guzman there both undefeated. You said Guzman has never lost so he should get a shot at Pac. If that's the case than Valero and Linares should also get a chance to fight Pac. Right?
They're ok but there's a big class difference between Guzman and the likes of Valero and Linares, Guzman is coming towards his prime and i consider his all round game 2nd to Mayweather!!, And yes he's that good, Why are the Pac fans so scared for him to fight Joan?, I mean if Pac's the "best" then it shouldn't be a problem for him should it?,
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There is no way his all around game is better than Winky or Pac as it stands currently.. He still has a big question mark over his stamina imo.
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And here is a little video of Pac and his groupies worst nightmare ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqzCsL0xzmQ
KEEP RUNNING PAC!!! O0
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Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by MiraCuloU$-P@rAg0n
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by rrbong
It's so funny that somebody like Paragon is making up stories about one great warrior like Pacman trying to evade his boy. I thought he was like joking about it.
Man, he's really serious about his boy. Anyway, let us give him the benefit of the doubt.
By the way, Paragon how much did your dad Joan gave you to advertise his name in this forum? I will tell Manny about your fighter and maybe he will ask me about him. How should I describe your dad?lol
Describe him as a decent fighter who's seriously overrated. Don't forget to mention that he's lost his power as he's moved up in weight. He's gone the distance in his last 5 fights and hasn't stopped anybody in over 2 years. He might be of more use as a sparring partner.
I don't think Guzman is overrated at all.. You may have a point about his power, but that's ok.. I think his stamina is his real flaw... Don't forget Morales hadn't stopped anyone in 3 years before last night and you still had hhim by KO pretty confidently.. I don't see why everyone needs to give Guzman absolutely no chance now that Pac beat Erik again.. Who else is going to give him a tougher fight in reality at 130?? Old Barerra? Valero? I don't think they are as good as Guzman at this point, I also think Joan has the best shot to give PAc a hell of a fight with his slick counter shots.. Marquez is the only guy Pac's fought with a comparable style and that was a nightmare for him.. I can understand that he isn't as big a draw as Barerra, so obviously if the chance is there Pac should take that fight.. But otherwise why shouldn't this happen.
P4pking i salute you sir!!, That's real talk right there, These feeble minded, Delusional groupies don't have a clue about the game and their lust for Pac just blinds them of the truth, Guzman would give Pac absolute hell i have no doubt about it, It's clear you've actually seen Guzman's fights unlike these idle folk!!,
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What's your opinion on Edwin Valero and Jorge Linares. Like Guzman there both undefeated. You said Guzman has never lost so he should get a shot at Pac. If that's the case than Valero and Linares should also get a chance to fight Pac. Right?
They're ok but there's a big class difference between Guzman and the likes of Valero and Linares, Guzman is coming towards his prime and i consider his all round game 2nd to Mayweather!!, And yes he's that good, Why are the Pac fans so scared for him to fight Joan?, I mean if Pac's the "best" then it shouldn't be a problem for him should it?,
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There is no way his all around game is better than Winky or Pac as it stands currently.. He still has a big question mark over his stamina imo.
yes winky is on a par i guess but as you said Pac had hell when he fought someone slick like Marquez and also lost to Morales which is why i think Joan is a more rounded fighter, I mean i don't think there is any doubt that skill wise Guzman is far ahead of Pac!! and defensively too, You mention the stamina issue but he's gone 12 rounds in his last few fights and i'm sure that wouldn't be a problem,
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Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
Hey Miraculus Uragon, usted soñador. despierte. Before Pac crushed and buried every grandes guerreros of our land, we didnt believe or try to imagine that the mexican assasin would make it. Now, here you are, a dominican with your boy (or girl) jo-anne, maybe it's time to change pac's alias to from mexican to dominican assasin. Jo-anne hav'nt faced legends before. He didnt even knocked barrios out when they met. so how dare you compare your butterfly muchacho to those legends?
el soñar de la subsistencia (keep on dreaming uragon)
Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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I don't want to see Guzman fight Juarez, Rocky is too mentally weak for a fighter like Guzman and he'd just be beaten.
valero is too green and his chin isn't all that good.
If Guzman wants to fight before he moves up in weight again Pacquiao would be a good one.
I'm sure Pacquiao would have some trouble with him, Guzman isn't going to stand and trade with Pacman.
I think what it comes down to is, can Guzman take what Pacquiao can dish out. If he can then Pacquiao is in for a tough fight.
Want to see Pacquiao vs. Barrios one day!!! ;D
I think guzman wud trade with pac. He did with barrios. I think guzman would be too much for pac. This guy is the truth. Believe me!!!
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I don't want to see Guzman fight Juarez, Rocky is too mentally weak for a fighter like Guzman and he'd just be beaten.
valero is too green and his chin isn't all that good.
If Guzman wants to fight before he moves up in weight again Pacquiao would be a good one.
I'm sure Pacquiao would have some trouble with him, Guzman isn't going to stand and trade with Pacman.
I think what it comes down to is, can Guzman take what Pacquiao can dish out. If he can then Pacquiao is in for a tough fight.
Want to see Pacquiao vs. Barrios one day!!! ;D
I think guzman wud trade with pac. He did with barrios. I think guzman would be too much for pac. This guy is the truth. Believe me!!!
He's the truth based on what?
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Guzman would be a great opponent for Pac, but so would alot of other fighters.
Unfortunetly for Guzman, Barerra and Marquez are the big money fights for Pac. Guzman just isnt a draw at this point.
Personally, I'd like to see Guzman and Valero go at on freeview HBO.
The winner of that fight would get the exposure they need, and get fans clamouring for a matchup with Pacquaio.
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Guzman may be a good fighter but only against fighter who's not as good as Barrera or Morales. I've seen the videos of Guzman which you are proud of. Clearly, his opponents in the said video is nothing compared to Pacquaio.
Now for your claim that Pacquaio is avoiding Guzman... Do you have a proof? CAn you prove it???
Guzman's letter to Pacquaio is ludicrous.
Guzman is good only for $300,000 while Pacquiao $3million plus plus... Where's your sense of common sense.... or have you got any?
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Guzman may be a good fighter but only against fighter who's not as good as Barrera or Morales. I've seen the videos of Guzman which you are proud of. Clearly, his opponents in the said video is nothing compared to Pacquaio.
Now for your claim that Pacquaio is avoiding Guzman... Do you have a proof? CAn you prove it???
Guzman's letter to Pacquaio is ludicrous. Why would he select the place? In Dominican Republic so that he willl have the advantage of the crowd and maybe assasinate Pacquaio after Guzman is beaten badly in the ring???
Wake up man!!!!
Guzman is good only for $300,000 while Pacquiao $3million plus plus... Where's your sense of common sense.... or have you got any?
I know that the guy that Guzman was shown stopping in that video PAcquiao fought and was lucky to escape it byu the skin of his teeth(and point deductions) never seen the fight though between Pacquiao and that guy Sanchez.
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I've never understood why fans of one fighter have to instinctively talk shit about every other fighter in the division. Either way, Its the best fight out there. Cause I've always been a big Barrera fan but I don't think that will happen. Who else is there? JMM 2 seems like a hard fight to make. Valero would get smacked. Soto's pretty good but I don't see it as a better fight than Guzman.
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I was really wondering about how paragon is trying to promote guzman so I look again at the fights of great boxers and compared it with guzman's style.
Guzman is like Hamed in style. Defeated by Barerra in speed and in strength and endurance. I cannot see why Pacquaio would be having problems with Guzman who is simply the WBO champion because Barrios did not make the weight and was forced to fight with weight problems.
It took me some time to study this Guzman and I tell you guys he will be beaten by Pacquaio via knock out. Watch his videos and compare the fights of Morales, Barrera with fighters with the style of Hamed. Guzman belongs to the Hamed style. all bragging but no real power. not even has the heart of a true fighter.
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Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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that what you meant?
Re: Pac vs Guzman has to be next!!
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Originally Posted by rrbong
Guzman may be a good fighter but only against fighter who's not as good as Barrera or Morales. I've seen the videos of Guzman which you are proud of. Clearly, his opponents in the said video is nothing compared to Pacquaio.
Now for your claim that Pacquaio is avoiding Guzman... Do you have a proof? CAn you prove it???
Guzman's letter to Pacquaio is ludicrous. Why would he select the place? In Dominican Republic so that he willl have the advantage of the crowd and maybe assasinate Pacquaio after Guzman is beaten badly in the ring???
Wake up man!!!!
Guzman is good only for $300,000 while Pacquiao $3million plus plus... Where's your sense of common sense.... or have you got any?
Can't you read?, THE PROOF IS THERE IN THE LETTER THAT HE WAN'TS TO FIGHT PAC!!, You're so idle and incompetent about the game of boxing it's hard to take you seriously and furthermore he never said he wanted to "fight Pac in the Dominican Republic" he said HE HAS A FIGHT IN DECEMBER AGAINST SOMEBODY OVER THERE FIRST AND THEN HE WANT'S TO FIGHT PAC IN MARCH!!, Come on man you can't be that dumb surely?, You're hopping on pac's jock because he's from your homeland!!, You don't know nothing about the game and your obsession over the man has shined through from the outset, Go follow a different sport you're clearly out of your depth when it comes to boxing,
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