CALZAGHE v MANFREDO -It's official- 3/03/07 Millenium Stadium-Wales

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by sexydarin

What gets me is that he has the talent to beat the elite. Why would he be afraid with the talent he has? Is it because nobody wants to fight him?

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What's so hard to understand. The man's a F****** coward. Accept it. Talented or not, when you turn down 3.4 million against the biggest threat in your division to fight a garbage fighter like Manfredo your showing true colors. And Calzcrappy's true colors are yellow.

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I love Joe & all that shit...but this fight is a sham.

Why is it that no one wants to face the fact that he is fighting a game show fighter who had no game?

Step backwards...no matter what HBO says...as Joe's fans...or as realists should see smoking butterbean or a steaming kernel of corn on a large pile of shit!

Set up fight my ass! They better show a Kessler replay or live fight on the very same night!!!

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by sexydarin

What gets me is that he has the talent to beat the elite. Why would he be afraid with the talent he has? Is it because nobody wants to fight him?

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What's so hard to understand. The man's a F****** coward. Accept it. Talented or not, when you turn down 3.4 million against the biggest threat in your division to fight a garbage fighter like Manfredo your showing true colors. And Calzcrappy's true colors are yellow.

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I love Joe & all that shit...but this fight is a sham.

Why is it that no one wants to face the fact that he is fighting a game show fighter who had no game?

Step backwards...no matter what HBO says...as Joe's fans...or as realists should see smoking butterbean or a steaming kernel of corn on a large pile of shit!

Set up fight my ass! They better show a Kessler replay or live fight on the very same night!!!

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I have no idea why these Calzcrappy groupies can't realize there idol is a fuckin coward. At least you got some sense wack. Take your cc, it's been awhile since I given you one.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by sexydarin

What gets me is that he has the talent to beat the elite. Why would he be afraid with the talent he has? Is it because nobody wants to fight him?

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What's so hard to understand. The man's a F****** coward. Accept it. Talented or not, when you turn down 3.4 million against the biggest threat in your division to fight a garbage fighter like Manfredo your showing true colors. And Calzcrappy's true colors are yellow.

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I love Joe & all that S***...but this fight is a sham.

Why is it that no one wants to face the fact that he is fighting a game show fighter who had no game?

Step backwards...no matter what HBO says...as Joe's fans...or as realists should see smoking butterbean or a steaming kernel of corn on a large pile of S***!

Set up fight my a**! They better show a Kessler replay or live fight on the very same night!!!

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I have no idea why these Calzcrappy groupies can't realize there idol is a F****** coward. At least you got some sense wack. Take your cc, it's been awhile since I given you one.

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It's like this...you know I'm a Calzaghe fan...& I know...by your own admission that you think Joe is skilled...your'e just as disgusted with his choice of opponnets as I am...your'e just a bit more brutal in your expressions.

I truly believe that you'd go back to Calzaghe instead of Calzcrappy if he picked a legit opponent...am I right?

Nothing wrong with that... :coolclick: back right now...or in 24.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

I hear on the same night U2 are having a battle of the bands with G4.

Dont know if its true or not?

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:appl: nice one ;)

same here wacko im calzaghe fan and im really disappointed i thought he had 3 fights left and was going chase big names manfredo ?? please  :-\

Amir Khan is also on the bill and it's his first night on HBO

Someone Wants things to run Smoothly All my fighters must win and put on a good show of face for the US armchair fan on this particular night :detective:

Iam a Calzaghe fan his last fight was a joke,but this fight is stupid fight to take at this stage of his career.I'am sure Calzaghe is gonna look a million dollors beating up Manfredo and ko him in what will be an easy fight.He will look good infront of US fans that will set up a fight with Jamaine Taylor in the states.
I would much rather him fight Kessler and if he wins he is the undisputed champ then fight JT who would be the former undisputed champ at MW seen as he would be stepping up in weight.

As you all know, I am a Calzaghe fan...but I too am appalled by this latest choice of opponent, especially hot on the heels of the Bika fight. Very dissapointing. Calzaghe will blow Manfredo away in 4.

A waste of very limited time....why not try and unify the fecking belts???? >:mad :-\

Thing is....
Im not aware of ANY statement from Joe or Warren regarding Kesslers offer :-\
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Originally Posted by Smashup

Thing is....
Im not aware of ANY statement from Joe or Warren regarding Kesslers offer :-\
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Thats because Frank and Joe, when they heard Kessler's promoter was on the phone both stuck their fingers in theirs ears and started shouting 'La La La I cant hear you!' as loud as they could until he had gone.

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Originally Posted by bilbo

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Originally Posted by Smashup

Thing is....
Im not aware of ANY statement from Joe or Warren regarding Kesslers offer :-\
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Thats because Frank and Joe, when they heard Kessler's promoter was on the phone both stuck their fingers in theirs ears and started shouting 'La La La I cant hear you!' as loud as they could until he had gone.

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CC ;D

Always stirring things up! An echo of truth in there somewhere though!

Just so i understand this right;

Calzaghe, he is now a coward, because his team, and HBO all want him to fight an american next witht he promise of a magea fight in the states with Taylor at the end of the year? Because he turned down the biggest pay day to fight his 20th def IN DENMARK when cleary hes the top tog dog, name ways and Kessler has along way to go before he will get much Us exposure, and when he does it will be lacy knocking him out.

Whats even more funny is the likes of VD will use his brilliant interllect to come up with names such as "crappzageh" :clap: but can't see the logic whats happening here. I mean not long ago VD, you defended bernard hopkins for PERSONALY pricing himself out of a fight with calzaghe when it was aranged joe goes to bernads back yard to fight him. Check his record out, see the lossers he fought form the tito fight to the De la hoya fight when clazaghe wanted him then. See how the class of people he was fighting sucked so bad that he didn't know how much he as getting after the fight, that the only place that would stage them was his home state of PA lol... but you blame Warren and Calzaghe for that don't you? you claim they didn't make him a big enough offer, even though it was a career high pay day for him, and even though he wouldn't of made that much combined in his next few fights, it was still calzaghes fault wasn't?


And wacko, how discusted were you with hopkins and Jones when they constently priced them selves out of fights with Calzaghe? Or how hopkins cowrad and hid in middle weight untill Jones jr was washed up, and toney had moved up? this big hero, legend, former 'P4P king' (which he never ever deserved) Got beat easily by a somewhat one handed young roy jones at middle weight and never left it untill the next time he got beat and there was a talentless weight for him to go to and take a title.


And now, Calzaghe is a coward, and people are disgusted that he has taken Manfredo over Kessler. Seems to many people have been riding around on thier high horses way to long and completley forgotten how boxing works. Sad simple reason is the american publics opinion matters alot when it comes to getting the big fights in the US, and Calzaghe as pretty much been promised that by taking manfredo next. And you can bet your house on the fact Calzaghe V manfredo will be viewd by a sh*t load more people in the us than it would if Calzaghe fought Kessler.

Kessler is being Hyped up and overrated more then Lacy was, and the higher they build you up, the bigger the fall when you come crashing back down to earth. If kessler wanted that fight they would made an offer of big bux for the fight to be in the UK, no way in hell is Joe gunna play by some 'nobodys' tune and fight his 20th def in denmark.

The best part is tho this 'he is no a Coward'

When he offerd Hopkisn a career high to fight him in the states...
Jones Jr was offerd more then a ffair amount to fight Joe in the states...
And now, he takes some what of an easy fight yes, but its to secure a fight in the States agasint one of the most contreversial, decision gifted fightrs in the world today, Jermaine Taylor, whos traine dby none other than EManuel him self. If thats not enough, Taylor doesn't look like getting KO'd anytime soon, and Calzaghes hands don't look like they pack the power to go KOing people either.

Thing is...

It doesn't matter how disgusted everyone is with the fight everyone will still tune into watch it

They'll still be a million threads about it - before and after

They'll still be a Wackos RBR ;D

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

I'm with Smash here.

Only way Kessler beats Calzaghe is if Joe is starting to get drained at the weight. I don't really see him as having much more class than Froch, just a different style... Froch has the chin and pop to beat Kessler from what I have seen... especially if he KEEPS HIS HANDS UP!!! ;)

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Originally Posted by Smashup

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After seeing the way (from ringside) that Frochy hammered Magee down in brutal fashion i say he will win a world title within 18 months 8)
The Boy can still pull out the power in the 11th round of a gruelling fight.
Froch is going places and fast 8)

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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon

cc well said! i well and truley love froch! he needs a world title shot and JC aint gona do him favours.....yet! if he gets a kessler fight and succeeds |JC has to fight him!

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Totally disagree with the three of you. I honestly think that you all need to review the body of Kessler's work before passing judgement.

The kid learns more & more from fight to fight & he seems to be getting stronger.

Froch is just to open & too green & you can only rely on power for so long.

Although Kess is a power puncher...he has been refining his defense...atleast he did against Beyer & he's gotten more accurate with his right hand. Kessler is becoming more complete.

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Originally Posted by dumdane

Damn you guys are funny. ;D

Froch will be exposed before you know it (to a large extend he already has - looks crap).
Having believed in him is gonna be a bit of an embarrasment for you lot in the future.

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Agreed. :coolclick:

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Kessler might be defensevley getting better and i do agree with that...he is a world champ....but you also have to think that carl is getting better (and older) and he is undefeated! i think if he gets past dodson he should be considered for a fight with JC or Kessler? When you think about it in the long run..who is Kessler gona fight? lacy? JC's seconds...it wouldnt make sense the person i think who fits into it all is carl froch and he needs a bigger fight to show this!

I think Peter is tough as hell and will have a better showing then Calzaghe's last two opponents, in fact I hope he knocks the hell out of Calzaghe for taken about 12 steps backwards. Calzaghe is already well known in the states to anyone that is a boxing fan so I don't believe for a second that it's just for HBO and to get known over here in the states. His promoter simply thinks that Peter will be an easy defense and he'll match Hopkins MW defense record giving him bragging rights in a sence. But in reality it will do nothing in a true boxing fans eyes that he defended the WBO title more then Hopkins has defended his titles. Poor Joe is going backwards and losing more respect each day. I guess I have more confidence in Peters ability then most here and think the fight will go the distance further hurting Joes reputation. Joe has plenty of KO's but he's not a great puncher, he hit Lacy over a thousand times and couldn't KO him.

I'm rooting for the huge underdog here, I hope like hell Manfredo knocks him off his throne. He wants to be known In the states but he makes a barely rated fighter travel over there to fight him. Manfredo has something that Calzaghe lacks and thats courage and the willingness to fight anyone anywhere. Look at these ratings, Peter is not rated in the top 10 of any sanctioning body and not even the top 15 of the WBO or WBA.




WBC
Mikkel Kessler
1 . Librado Andrade
2 . Jeff Lacy
3 . Lucien Bute
4 . Carl Froch
5 . Cristian Sanavia
6 . Mario Veit
7 . Jurgen Brahmer
8 . William Joppy
9 . Mger Mkrtchian
10 . Rudy Markussen
11 . Otis Grant
12 . Jackson Chanet
13 . Peter Manfredo Jr.
14 . Danilo Haussler
15 . Danny Green


WBA
Mikkel Kessler
1. Anthony Mundine
2. Jeff Lacy
3. Rudy Markussen
4. Mger Mkrtchian
5. Lucien Bute
6. Vitaly Tsypko
7. Mario Veit
8. Danilo Haussler
9. Danny Green
10. Jurgen Brahmer
11. Jean Paul Mendy
12. Dennis Inkin
13. Lolenga Mock
14. Carl Froch
15. Jackson Chanet

IBF
Joe Calzaghe
1 Robert Stieglitz
2 Alejandro Berrio
3 Rudy Markussen
4 Danillo Haussler
5 Jeff Lacy
6 Luciene Bute
7 Mger Mkrtchian
8 Carl Froch
9 Mario Veit
10 Jackson Chanet
11 Jurgen Brahmer
12 Dennis Inkin
13 Yusuf Mack
14 Joe Spina these last two should be switched
15 Peter Manfredo Jr.


WBO
Joe Calzaghe
1. Rudy Markussen
2. Robert Stieglitz
3. Denis Inkin
4. Carl Froch
5. Allan Green
6. Jeff Lacy
7. Lucian Bute
8. Mario Veit
9. Victor Oganov
10. Cristian Sanavia
11. Mger Mkrtchian
12. Jean Paul Mendy
13. Sakio Bika
14. Hector Velazco
15. Francisco A. Mora


Fightnews
1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Mikkel Kessler
3. Jeff Lacy
4. Marcus Beyer
5. Anthony Mundine
6. Librado Andrade
7. Dennis Inkin
8. Lucian Bute
9. Jurgen Brähmer
10. Danny Green
11. Allan Green
12. Peter Manfredo Jr.
13. Sakio Bika
14. Mario Veit
15. Robert Stieglitz
16. Anthony Hanshaw