Re: who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis
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Originally Posted by matteoz
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Lewis was not in his prime (state of mind & conditioning) for the first Rahman. Lewis had grown overly confident and lazy and side tracked with a movie I think. If you think the above would occur if Lewis ever fought Tyson you are mistaken.
you could use the same exscuse for tyson getting beat of buster douglas and tyson said that after that defeat he only ever fought for the money,but i dont think anyone could of done anything with tyson when he was in his prime.Look at when tyson fought bonecrusher,tucker,razzor ruddock,bruno,gilota,holmes,green,tillis,ribalta ect all similar fighters to lewis he,tyson,managed them all quite well weather it went the distance or not and it also showed that tyson in his day was very capable in going 12 rounds and not just crumbbling after 4, eg the tucker fight and the 2nd ruddock fight also berbick was a lewis type fighter obviously not as good and just look at the distruction of him.AWSOME.lewis no chance.
Lewis would always have a chance, but otherwise I completely agree with you. Tyson could very well defeat Lewis prime for prime. :coolclick:
Re: who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis
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Originally Posted by matteoz
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Lewis was not in his prime (state of mind & conditioning) for the first Rahman. Lewis had grown overly confident and lazy and side tracked with a movie I think. If you think the above would occur if Lewis ever fought Tyson you are mistaken.
you could use the same exscuse for tyson getting beat of buster douglas and tyson said that after that defeat he only ever fought for the money,but i dont think anyone could of done anything with tyson when he was in his prime.Look at when tyson fought bonecrusher,tucker,razzor ruddock,bruno,gilota,holmes,green,tillis,ribalta ect all similar fighters to lewis he,tyson,managed them all quite well weather it went the distance or not and it also showed that tyson in his day was very capable in going 12 rounds and not just crumbbling after 4, eg the tucker fight and the 2nd ruddock fight also berbick was a lewis type fighter obviously not as good and just look at the distruction of him.AWSOME.lewis no chance.
yOUR GETTING A :coolclick: from me
Re: who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis
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Originally Posted by Scrap
They did sparr when they were 18 year olds, before the Olympics and rumour has it Lewis was the Guvnor
Actually I believe that rumour is false,here is a link to a Tyson fansite where there was a Q&A session with none other than Tom Patti,if you scroll down on the link to the first part of question number 2(posted by me infact)you'l find a very interesting answer
http://www.tysontalk.com/article564.html
Re: who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis
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Originally Posted by Muzzo
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Originally Posted by Scrap
They did sparr when they were 18 year olds, before the Olympics and rumour has it Lewis was the Guvnor
Actually I believe that rumour is false,here is a link to a Tyson fansite where there was a Q&A session with none other than Tom Patti,if you scroll down on the link to the first part of question number 2(posted by me infact)you'l find a very interesting answer
http://www.tysontalk.com/article564.html
that answers that then
Re: who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis
Re: who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis
Yes Mike got the better of a teenage Lennox Lewis.....it's not quite the 250 pound version who could control an entire fight
Re: who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis
I heard he knocked Lewis down twice. Anyways, A prime Tyson would knock out any heavy from the pioneer era till today.
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Of course this is because prime Tyson lasted 5 months and fighted bums right?
Re: who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis
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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
Anyways, A prime Tyson would knock out any heavy from the pioneer era till today.
Totally disagree with you...respectfully
Re: who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis
i would say in my personal opinion that tysons prime, his abslute peak was 86-88 , that was when he was at his very best IMO..........i also beleive that tyson had all the tools and potential to be the greatest and surpass muhamad ali, except for one factor, he was mentaly weak,it was his downfall....If tyson had say marcianos grit and determination,i beleive he would have been unbeatable!
....in those 2 years between 86-88,tyson was very head strong,he was hungry and eager to show the world he was the best, and IMO i dont think lewis could beat that version of tyson,im not saying it would be easy for tyson,not at all,it would have been the most competitive fight of his life! And i dont know if tyson would ko lewis but i think he would be all over him,chasing him all around the ring for 12 rds with lewis having some good moments but nothing big. SO i dont see an upset for lewis im afraid.....sorry lennox fans
....but ive seen a hell of alot of fights and fighters and the 86-88 tyson is the best HW ive seen since ALI....a lot of you will disagree...oh well.....thats my story cheers! ;D
Re: who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis
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Originally Posted by MR T
i would say in my personal opinion that tysons prime, his abslute peak was 86-88 , that was when he was at his very best IMO..........i also beleive that tyson had all the tools and potential to be the greatest and surpass muhamad ali, except for one factor, he was mentaly weak,it was his downfall....If tyson had say marcianos grit and determination,i beleive he would have been unbeatable!
....in those 2 years between 86-88,tyson was very head strong,he was hungry and eager to show the world he was the best, and IMO i dont think lewis could beat that version of tyson,im not saying it would be easy for tyson,not at all,it would have been the most competitive fight of his life! And i dont know if tyson would ko lewis but i think he would be all over him,chasing him all around the ring for 12 rds with lewis having some good moments but nothing big. SO i dont see an upset for lewis im afraid.....sorry lennox fans
....but ive seen a hell of alot of fights and fighters and the 86-88 tyson is the best HW ive seen since ALI....a lot of you will disagree...oh well.....thats my story cheers! ;D
thing is tyson did always struggle with jab and move types and tall fighters like tucker tillis ect and this was when he was in his prime lewis would have to look for uppercut because tyson gets caught with that punch as he is coming in i see him get caught vs tucker ruddock and holyfield with that punch lewis would have to be on his best night to survive early onslaught if he can he comes back and starts discouraging tyson with jab then he lands uppercut late on a stops tyson fight could go two ways imo tyson early or lewis late
one last thing lewis would use his much longer reach and height to keep tyson at bay and would use his left jab to good affect
Re: who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis
Getting back to the sparring... Lewis was on Sky sports talking about it and his claim was it used to get pretty heated his sparing with Tyson and mike used to try and take his head off.... when pushed and asked by the interviewer what he did.
Lewis said i done my Ali impersonation.
Re: who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Yes Mike got the better of a teenage Lennox Lewis.....it's not quite the 250 pound version who could control an entire fight
yes,granted Tyson was only sparring a teenage Lennox Lewis but they sparred back in 83/84 when Tyson was still a good couple years and about 20/30 lbs away from turning pro himself so its all relative man!
Re: who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis
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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
I heard he knocked Lewis down twice. Anyways, A prime Tyson would knock out any heavy from the pioneer era till today.
How can you make such a statement? If a prime Tyson was fucking unbeatable; how does a slightly past prime Tyson lose to half-way legitimate opponents. You all can wish in one hand and shit in the other......and see which fills up first. Tyson doesn't crack my top 10 best heavywieghts.......just a talented moron with no character. A shame really.
Re: who wins a peak mike tyson or lennox lewis
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Originally Posted by tysonbruno
IM A MASSIVE TYSON FAN AND BELIEVE A PEAK TYSON OF 1988 WOULD HAVE KNOCKED A PEAK LENNOX LEWIS OUT WITH IN 3 ROUNDS. WHEN THE PAIR ACTUALLY MET IN 2002 LENNOX WERE'NT FAR PAST HIS PEAK BUT TYSON WAS PAST IT BUT STILL MANAGED 8 ROUNDS WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK
Lewis always had a questionable chin from what we saw in the McCall/Rahman losses so there is always a chance that a leaping, swarming fighter like Tyson in his prime could knock him out...that being said, a peak Lewis I think is too rangy, too big, too technically sound to let Tyson get to him, he boxes from the outside with the jab and straight right until Mike wears down eventually late and gets KOed or pounded to a unanimous decision. Out of a three fight trilogy, I say Lewis takes two out of three.
