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Mayweather when his uncle jumped in the ring.
I disagree strongly here. In my opinion, this was the perfect example of a time where the ref could have dq'd a fighter, but made the right call in NOT dq'ing him.
The whole purpose of disqualifying a fighter (or deducting points) is to penalize a fighter who commits a foul and gains an unfair advantage as a result of the foul.
Floyd Mayweather gained no advantage from his uncle entering the ring. The action and the time had already been stopped because of the intentional low blow.
Did Roger deserve to be ejected from the fight? Of course he did. Did he deserve a suspension like the one he got? Definitely.
But to DQ Floyd because Roger entered the ring would not have been a correct decision. If that happened, you'd be rewarding the guy (Judah) who started the whole sequence by blatantly hitting low, because he was getting his a** kicked and wasn't man enough to take his beating like a pro.
I realize you're obviously a big Floyd fan but you have to stop being so biased. The politics of boxing prevented justice in that case. A rule is a rule and as much as it wasn't Floyds fault, he should have been dq'ed for his corners actions.
Everything was against Zab that night from the ref not calling the knockdown to the non DQ. To add insult to injury, he becomes the first guy I've ever heard of that gets a year suspension for throwing a low blow. Even Golota didn't pay a price that steep. It's not like Zab was throwing illegal shots all night.
Zab got a raw deal and if you wanna believe the commentarys version then that's fine with me but just know you're wrong on this one. That is just a case of HBO protecting their investment. Period.
Your obviously a big Floyd hater ;) But correct me if I'm wrong, but the ref called time and the round was suspended, so Roger Didnt enter the ring during a round in progress...
Thats true in any sport,The coach and other players not involved cant enter the field of play while the game is in progress if they do fouls, penalties and ejections take place.. But during a time out the coach can Breakdance on top of his head at midfield and its irrelevant because TIME WAS CALLED!!!!!
That is absolutely ridiculous to insinuate Judah was getting the shaft, especially cause that sneaky little prick commited 2 fouls
Foul#1 BLATANT LOW BLOW
Foul#2 INTENTIONALLY HITTING IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD
C'mon man your hatred for Floyd is clouding your perceptive powers :-\
i agree with jt why should mayweather get dq for what his uncle done ?? zab low blowed mayweather i dont see how mayweathers uncle jumping in ring should make mayweather get dq
Barrera got dq in first fight with junior jones because his corner man jumped in ring so why not Floyd for same thing
because barrera was down twice in that round if i remember right he was on his way to getting koed
difference is mayweather was winning fight comfortably after that an judah fouled him theres difference mate
Gunna get knocked out or not trainer should'nt enter ring should he Peter Mcneeley got dq'd against Tyson for same thing
'Cause McNeeley was on his way to KOing Tyson?!?
Don't quite follow the logic there after reading the rest of the thread.
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Mayweather when his uncle jumped in the ring.
I disagree strongly here. In my opinion, this was the perfect example of a time where the ref could have dq'd a fighter, but made the right call in NOT dq'ing him.
The whole purpose of disqualifying a fighter (or deducting points) is to penalize a fighter who commits a foul and gains an unfair advantage as a result of the foul.
Floyd Mayweather gained no advantage from his uncle entering the ring. The action and the time had already been stopped because of the intentional low blow.
Did Roger deserve to be ejected from the fight? Of course he did. Did he deserve a suspension like the one he got? Definitely.
But to DQ Floyd because Roger entered the ring would not have been a correct decision. If that happened, you'd be rewarding the guy (Judah) who started the whole sequence by blatantly hitting low, because he was getting his a** kicked and wasn't man enough to take his beating like a pro.
I realize you're obviously a big Floyd fan but you have to stop being so biased. The politics of boxing prevented justice in that case. A rule is a rule and as much as it wasn't Floyds fault, he should have been dq'ed for his corners actions.
Everything was against Zab that night from the ref not calling the knockdown to the non DQ. To add insult to injury, he becomes the first guy I've ever heard of that gets a year suspension for throwing a low blow. Even Golota didn't pay a price that steep. It's not like Zab was throwing illegal shots all night.
Zab got a raw deal and if you wanna believe the commentarys version then that's fine with me but just know you're wrong on this one. That is just a case of HBO protecting their investment. Period.
Your obviously a big Floyd hater ;) But correct me if I'm wrong, but the ref called time and the round was suspended, so Roger Didnt enter the ring during a round in progress...
Thats true in any sport,The coach and other players not involved cant enter the field of play while the game is in progress if they do fouls, penalties and ejections take place.. But during a time out the coach can Breakdance on top of his head at midfield and its irrelevant because TIME WAS CALLED!!!!!
That is absolutely ridiculous to insinuate Judah was getting the shaft, especially cause that sneaky little prick commited 2 fouls
Foul#1 BLATANT LOW BLOW
Foul#2 INTENTIONALLY HITTING IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD
C'mon man your hatred for Floyd is clouding your perceptive powers :-\
i agree with jt why should mayweather get dq for what his uncle done ?? zab low blowed mayweather i dont see how mayweathers uncle jumping in ring should make mayweather get dq
Barrera got dq in first fight with junior jones because his corner man jumped in ring so why not Floyd for same thing
because barrera was down twice in that round if i remember right he was on his way to getting koed
difference is mayweather was winning fight comfortably after that an judah fouled him theres difference mate
Gunna get knocked out or not trainer should'nt enter ring should he Peter Mcneeley got dq'd against Tyson for same thing
'Cause McNeeley was on his way to KOing Tyson?!?
Don't quite follow the logic there after reading the rest of the thread.
:dontknow:
My point was Barrera and Mcneeley were both dq'd because there trainers entered the ring so why not Mayweather i know Barrera and Mcneeley were both on the way to ko defeats but what does it matter there trainers still entered the ring as did Mayweathers
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Mayweather when his uncle jumped in the ring.
I disagree strongly here. In my opinion, this was the perfect example of a time where the ref could have dq'd a fighter, but made the right call in NOT dq'ing him.
The whole purpose of disqualifying a fighter (or deducting points) is to penalize a fighter who commits a foul and gains an unfair advantage as a result of the foul.
Floyd Mayweather gained no advantage from his uncle entering the ring. The action and the time had already been stopped because of the intentional low blow.
Did Roger deserve to be ejected from the fight? Of course he did. Did he deserve a suspension like the one he got? Definitely.
But to DQ Floyd because Roger entered the ring would not have been a correct decision. If that happened, you'd be rewarding the guy (Judah) who started the whole sequence by blatantly hitting low, because he was getting his a** kicked and wasn't man enough to take his beating like a pro.
I realize you're obviously a big Floyd fan but you have to stop being so biased. The politics of boxing prevented justice in that case. A rule is a rule and as much as it wasn't Floyds fault, he should have been dq'ed for his corners actions.
Everything was against Zab that night from the ref not calling the knockdown to the non DQ. To add insult to injury, he becomes the first guy I've ever heard of that gets a year suspension for throwing a low blow. Even Golota didn't pay a price that steep. It's not like Zab was throwing illegal shots all night.
Zab got a raw deal and if you wanna believe the commentarys version then that's fine with me but just know you're wrong on this one. That is just a case of HBO protecting their investment. Period.
Your obviously a big Floyd hater ;) But correct me if I'm wrong, but the ref called time and the round was suspended, so Roger Didnt enter the ring during a round in progress...
Thats true in any sport,The coach and other players not involved cant enter the field of play while the game is in progress if they do fouls, penalties and ejections take place.. But during a time out the coach can Breakdance on top of his head at midfield and its irrelevant because TIME WAS CALLED!!!!!
That is absolutely ridiculous to insinuate Judah was getting the shaft, especially cause that sneaky little prick commited 2 fouls
Foul#1 BLATANT LOW BLOW
Foul#2 INTENTIONALLY HITTING IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD
C'mon man your hatred for Floyd is clouding your perceptive powers :-\
i agree with jt why should mayweather get dq for what his uncle done ?? zab low blowed mayweather i dont see how mayweathers uncle jumping in ring should make mayweather get dq
Barrera got dq in first fight with junior jones because his corner man jumped in ring so why not Floyd for same thing
because barrera was down twice in that round if i remember right he was on his way to getting koed
difference is mayweather was winning fight comfortably after that an judah fouled him theres difference mate
Gunna get knocked out or not trainer should'nt enter ring should he Peter Mcneeley got dq'd against Tyson for same thing
'Cause McNeeley was on his way to KOing Tyson?!?
Don't quite follow the logic there after reading the rest of the thread.
:dontknow:
My point was Barrera and Mcneeley were both dq'd because there trainers entered the ring so why not Mayweather i know Barrera and Mcneeley were both on the way to ko defeats but what does it matter there trainers still entered the ring as did Mayweathers
I know you feel a rule's a rule, and you have a point. But you gotta consider the circumstances. When a trainer enters the ring when his fighter is losing and in danger of getting KO'd, you're perceived as attempting to avoid the unavoidable. Mayweather's case was way different. PBF was winning comfortably. But the sight of the blatant fouls, that obviously hurt PBF, made Mayweather go into the ring in anger. He had no need to alter the unavoidable outcome of the fight.
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Mayweather when his uncle jumped in the ring.
I disagree strongly here. In my opinion, this was the perfect example of a time where the ref could have dq'd a fighter, but made the right call in NOT dq'ing him.
The whole purpose of disqualifying a fighter (or deducting points) is to penalize a fighter who commits a foul and gains an unfair advantage as a result of the foul.
Floyd Mayweather gained no advantage from his uncle entering the ring. The action and the time had already been stopped because of the intentional low blow.
Did Roger deserve to be ejected from the fight? Of course he did. Did he deserve a suspension like the one he got? Definitely.
But to DQ Floyd because Roger entered the ring would not have been a correct decision. If that happened, you'd be rewarding the guy (Judah) who started the whole sequence by blatantly hitting low, because he was getting his a** kicked and wasn't man enough to take his beating like a pro.
I realize you're obviously a big Floyd fan but you have to stop being so biased. The politics of boxing prevented justice in that case. A rule is a rule and as much as it wasn't Floyds fault, he should have been dq'ed for his corners actions.
Everything was against Zab that night from the ref not calling the knockdown to the non DQ. To add insult to injury, he becomes the first guy I've ever heard of that gets a year suspension for throwing a low blow. Even Golota didn't pay a price that steep. It's not like Zab was throwing illegal shots all night.
Zab got a raw deal and if you wanna believe the commentarys version then that's fine with me but just know you're wrong on this one. That is just a case of HBO protecting their investment. Period.
Your obviously a big Floyd hater ;) But correct me if I'm wrong, but the ref called time and the round was suspended, so Roger Didnt enter the ring during a round in progress...
Thats true in any sport,The coach and other players not involved cant enter the field of play while the game is in progress if they do fouls, penalties and ejections take place.. But during a time out the coach can Breakdance on top of his head at midfield and its irrelevant because TIME WAS CALLED!!!!!
That is absolutely ridiculous to insinuate Judah was getting the shaft, especially cause that sneaky little prick commited 2 fouls
Foul#1 BLATANT LOW BLOW
Foul#2 INTENTIONALLY HITTING IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD
C'mon man your hatred for Floyd is clouding your perceptive powers :-\
i agree with jt why should mayweather get dq for what his uncle done ?? zab low blowed mayweather i dont see how mayweathers uncle jumping in ring should make mayweather get dq
Barrera got dq in first fight with junior jones because his corner man jumped in ring so why not Floyd for same thing
because barrera was down twice in that round if i remember right he was on his way to getting koed
difference is mayweather was winning fight comfortably after that an judah fouled him theres difference mate
Gunna get knocked out or not trainer should'nt enter ring should he Peter Mcneeley got dq'd against Tyson for same thing
'Cause McNeeley was on his way to KOing Tyson?!?
Don't quite follow the logic there after reading the rest of the thread.
:dontknow:
My point was Barrera and Mcneeley were both dq'd because there trainers entered the ring so why not Mayweather i know Barrera and Mcneeley were both on the way to ko defeats but what does it matter there trainers still entered the ring as did Mayweathers
I know you feel a rule's a rule, and you have a point. But you gotta consider the circumstances. When a trainer enters the ring when his fighter is losing and in danger of getting KO'd, you're perceived as attempting to avoid the unavoidable. Mayweather's case was way different. PBF was winning comfortably. But the sight of the blatant fouls, that obviously hurt PBF, made Mayweather go into the ring in anger. He had no need to alter the unavoidable outcome of the fight.
Im not botherd Mayweather did'nt get dq'd i was just throwing some points in the argument
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Mesi should have been out against Jirov. I can't believe that he stayed alive.
You could have made an argument that Corrales should have been stopped by Castillo.
I would not have been suprised if the ref called off the fight when PacMan knocked Marquez down three times in the first ropund of thier fight.
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Mesi should have been out against Jirov. I can't believe that he stayed alive.
You could have made an argument that Corrales should have been stopped by Castillo.
I would not have been suprised if the ref called off the fight when PacMan knocked Marquez down three times in the first ropund of thier fight.
SORRY. THOUGHT THE THREAD SAID KO"D. I CAN:T READ. ???
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Hatton was lucky not to be DQ'd againstTszyu!
Not really..Considering he had been hit with two low blows before he returned just the one..
I say toney - peter II
I would have dq'd peter..Those rabit punches were butal in the first few rounds
You mean that great left rip to Hatton's body in round six that Bernard Hopkins would have been proud of...
No i mean the two low blows one the round before and one immediately before the blow hatton returned..Which tszyu was called on by teh referee..
I think Tszyu was retaliating due to a lack of action from the pro Hatton referee who was reluctant to penalise Hatton because of the hometown crowd. If this fight was fought in the states Hatton would have been Dq'd for sure. His tactic throughout was to maul and low blow Tszyu, he knew Tszyu had weight problems and would weaken, he also knew nothing would be done to deter his actions. It worked!
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Mayweather when his uncle jumped in the ring.
I disagree strongly here. In my opinion, this was the perfect example of a time where the ref could have dq'd a fighter, but made the right call in NOT dq'ing him.
The whole purpose of disqualifying a fighter (or deducting points) is to penalize a fighter who commits a foul and gains an unfair advantage as a result of the foul.
Floyd Mayweather gained no advantage from his uncle entering the ring. The action and the time had already been stopped because of the intentional low blow.
Did Roger deserve to be ejected from the fight? Of course he did. Did he deserve a suspension like the one he got? Definitely.
But to DQ Floyd because Roger entered the ring would not have been a correct decision. If that happened, you'd be rewarding the guy (Judah) who started the whole sequence by blatantly hitting low, because he was getting his a** kicked and wasn't man enough to take his beating like a pro.
I realize you're obviously a big Floyd fan but you have to stop being so biased. The politics of boxing prevented justice in that case. A rule is a rule and as much as it wasn't Floyds fault, he should have been dq'ed for his corners actions.
Everything was against Zab that night from the ref not calling the knockdown to the non DQ. To add insult to injury, he becomes the first guy I've ever heard of that gets a year suspension for throwing a low blow. Even Golota didn't pay a price that steep. It's not like Zab was throwing illegal shots all night.
Zab got a raw deal and if you wanna believe the commentarys version then that's fine with me but just know you're wrong on this one. That is just a case of HBO protecting their investment. Period.
you know damn well it wasn't just for the low blow, and don't go trying to make zab judah the victim here, zab was the one that started the riot in the ring, and also assaulted roger mayweather while he (roger) and judahs dad were fighting, also this is the same judah that was suspended for throwing a stool and pushing back the head of a referee
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Wilfredo Gomez hitting Carlos Zarate while his glove was on the canvas.
'Too Sharp' Johnson against R.Marquez all that hitting in the back of the head, hitting on the break 3 times, hitting on the back, holding and locking onto Marquez, rushing at Marquez while the ref. was triped and on the floor, doing a head lock on Marquez.....
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Mayweather when his uncle jumped in the ring.
I disagree strongly here. In my opinion, this was the perfect example of a time where the ref could have dq'd a fighter, but made the right call in NOT dq'ing him.
The whole purpose of disqualifying a fighter (or deducting points) is to penalize a fighter who commits a foul and gains an unfair advantage as a result of the foul.
Floyd Mayweather gained no advantage from his uncle entering the ring. The action and the time had already been stopped because of the intentional low blow.
Did Roger deserve to be ejected from the fight? Of course he did. Did he deserve a suspension like the one he got? Definitely.
But to DQ Floyd because Roger entered the ring would not have been a correct decision. If that happened, you'd be rewarding the guy (Judah) who started the whole sequence by blatantly hitting low, because he was getting his a** kicked and wasn't man enough to take his beating like a pro.
I realize you're obviously a big Floyd fan but you have to stop being so biased. The politics of boxing prevented justice in that case. A rule is a rule and as much as it wasn't Floyds fault, he should have been dq'ed for his corners actions.
Everything was against Zab that night from the ref not calling the knockdown to the non DQ. To add insult to injury, he becomes the first guy I've ever heard of that gets a year suspension for throwing a low blow. Even Golota didn't pay a price that steep. It's not like Zab was throwing illegal shots all night.
Zab got a raw deal and if you wanna believe the commentarys version then that's fine with me but just know you're wrong on this one. That is just a case of HBO protecting their investment. Period.
Your obviously a big Floyd hater ;) But correct me if I'm wrong, but the ref called time and the round was suspended, so Roger Didnt enter the ring during a round in progress...
Thats true in any sport,The coach and other players not involved cant enter the field of play while the game is in progress if they do fouls, penalties and ejections take place.. But during a time out the coach can Breakdance on top of his head at midfield and its irrelevant because TIME WAS CALLED!!!!!
That is absolutely ridiculous to insinuate Judah was getting the shaft, especially cause that sneaky little prick commited 2 fouls
Foul#1 BLATANT LOW BLOW
Foul#2 INTENTIONALLY HITTING IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD
C'mon man your hatred for Floyd is clouding your perceptive powers :-\
i agree with jt why should mayweather get dq for what his uncle done ?? zab low blowed mayweather i dont see how mayweathers uncle jumping in ring should make mayweather get dq
Barrera got dq in first fight with junior jones because his corner man jumped in ring so why not Floyd for same thing
because barrera was down twice in that round if i remember right he was on his way to getting koed
difference is mayweather was winning fight comfortably after that an judah fouled him theres difference mate
Gunna get knocked out or not trainer should'nt enter ring should he Peter Mcneeley got dq'd against Tyson for same thing
'Cause McNeeley was on his way to KOing Tyson?!?
Don't quite follow the logic there after reading the rest of the thread.
:dontknow:
My point was Barrera and Mcneeley were both dq'd because there trainers entered the ring so why not Mayweather i know Barrera and Mcneeley were both on the way to ko defeats but what does it matter there trainers still entered the ring as did Mayweathers
I know you feel a rule's a rule, and you have a point. But you gotta consider the circumstances. When a trainer enters the ring when his fighter is losing and in danger of getting KO'd, you're perceived as attempting to avoid the unavoidable. Mayweather's case was way different. PBF was winning comfortably. But the sight of the blatant fouls, that obviously hurt PBF, made Mayweather go into the ring in anger. He had no need to alter the unavoidable outcome of the fight.
Titofan, you should know Tito as well as many others had landed low blows in fights and there have been dq's or points taken away or whatever but the fact is Judah is Judah so he gets treated differently and IMO, unfairly.
Judah was not to blame for that mini melee cause like I said many times before, that was only the first time in the fight that he did something outside of the rules and low blows happen all the time in boxing.
The guy responsible for that whole incident was Roger. He had no business in the ring period. It's just preferential treatment plain and simple.
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The guy responsible for that whole incident was Roger. He had no business in the ring period. It's just preferential treatment plain and simple.
Right........ preferential treatment ::**
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But correct me if I'm wrong, but the ref called time and the round was suspended, so Roger Didnt enter the ring during a round in progress...
Thats true in any sport,The coach and other players not involved cant enter the field of play while the game is in progress if they do fouls, penalties and ejections take place.. But during a time out the coach can Breakdance on top of his head at midfield and its irrelevant because TIME WAS CALLED!!!!!
I dont understand why you fail to realize after everyone explained to you, time was called the round wasnt in progress no DQ was necessary... I mean what is it with you anyway, its a ridiculous argument the fact were presented the rules were explained...
All the things you are mentioning is strictly your opinion only ....
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Mayweather when his uncle jumped in the ring.
I disagree strongly here. In my opinion, this was the perfect example of a time where the ref could have dq'd a fighter, but made the right call in NOT dq'ing him.
The whole purpose of disqualifying a fighter (or deducting points) is to penalize a fighter who commits a foul and gains an unfair advantage as a result of the foul.
Floyd Mayweather gained no advantage from his uncle entering the ring. The action and the time had already been stopped because of the intentional low blow.
Did Roger deserve to be ejected from the fight? Of course he did. Did he deserve a suspension like the one he got? Definitely.
But to DQ Floyd because Roger entered the ring would not have been a correct decision. If that happened, you'd be rewarding the guy (Judah) who started the whole sequence by blatantly hitting low, because he was getting his a** kicked and wasn't man enough to take his beating like a pro.
I realize you're obviously a big Floyd fan but you have to stop being so biased. The politics of boxing prevented justice in that case. A rule is a rule and as much as it wasn't Floyds fault, he should have been dq'ed for his corners actions.
Everything was against Zab that night from the ref not calling the knockdown to the non DQ. To add insult to injury, he becomes the first guy I've ever heard of that gets a year suspension for throwing a low blow. Even Golota didn't pay a price that steep. It's not like Zab was throwing illegal shots all night.
Zab got a raw deal and if you wanna believe the commentarys version then that's fine with me but just know you're wrong on this one. That is just a case of HBO protecting their investment. Period.
Your obviously a big Floyd hater ;) But correct me if I'm wrong, but the ref called time and the round was suspended, so Roger Didnt enter the ring during a round in progress...
Thats true in any sport,The coach and other players not involved cant enter the field of play while the game is in progress if they do fouls, penalties and ejections take place.. But during a time out the coach can Breakdance on top of his head at midfield and its irrelevant because TIME WAS CALLED!!!!!
That is absolutely ridiculous to insinuate Judah was getting the shaft, especially cause that sneaky little prick commited 2 fouls
Foul#1 BLATANT LOW BLOW
Foul#2 INTENTIONALLY HITTING IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD
C'mon man your hatred for Floyd is clouding your perceptive powers :-\
i agree with jt why should mayweather get dq for what his uncle done ?? zab low blowed mayweather i dont see how mayweathers uncle jumping in ring should make mayweather get dq
Barrera got dq in first fight with junior jones because his corner man jumped in ring so why not Floyd for same thing
because barrera was down twice in that round if i remember right he was on his way to getting koed
difference is mayweather was winning fight comfortably after that an judah fouled him theres difference mate
Gunna get knocked out or not trainer should'nt enter ring should he Peter Mcneeley got dq'd against Tyson for same thing
'Cause McNeeley was on his way to KOing Tyson?!?
Don't quite follow the logic there after reading the rest of the thread.
:dontknow:
My point was Barrera and Mcneeley were both dq'd because there trainers entered the ring so why not Mayweather i know Barrera and Mcneeley were both on the way to ko defeats but what does it matter there trainers still entered the ring as did Mayweathers
I know you feel a rule's a rule, and you have a point. But you gotta consider the circumstances. When a trainer enters the ring when his fighter is losing and in danger of getting KO'd, you're perceived as attempting to avoid the unavoidable. Mayweather's case was way different. PBF was winning comfortably. But the sight of the blatant fouls, that obviously hurt PBF, made Mayweather go into the ring in anger. He had no need to alter the unavoidable outcome of the fight.
Titofan, you should know Tito as well as many others had landed low blows in fights and there have been dq's or points taken away or whatever but the fact is Judah is Judah so he gets treated differently and IMO, unfairly.
Judah was not to blame for that mini melee cause like I said many times before, that was only the first time in the fight that he did something outside of the rules and low blows happen all the time in boxing.
The guy responsible for that whole incident was Roger. He had no business in the ring period. It's just preferential treatment plain and simple.
What makes Judah's low blow on Mayweather so different is how it happened. Judah was getting clearly dominated in the fight, and he knew he wasn't going nowhere. At one point, Judah clearly sized up the shot (like he was lining up a putt)... and threw a well-aimed uppercut at Mayweather's nuts. THEN, as if that wasn't enough... he proceeded to rabbit-punch Mayweather to the back of the head.
So while you're right about Roger Mayweather having no business in the ring, I wouldn't have been too devastated had the referee immediately DQ'ed Judah on the spot after those two incredibly blatant and premeditated fouls.
And by the way, you say "Judah is Judah" and he gets treated unfairly. Have you stopped to think that maybe Judah has earned this distinction over time with his own behavior?
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There are lots of examples of fouls in this thread, but I'm not sure that many of them merit a disqualification. I mean, boxing is a tough sport and it is a CONTACT sport. I also firmly believe that the best way to stop your opponent fouling you is to foul them back (ie Hatton hitting Tszyu low after 3 low Tzsyu punches etc.) There are also some fighters who had (shall we say) a disdain for the niceties of the Marquis of Queensberry rules, such as Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey, Roberto Duran and, yes, Nigel Benn. Those guys didn't care too much about hitting a bit below the belt ot making sure an opponent stayed down, but they didn't moan or complain when they were fouled either.
For me, I think Golota should have been disqualified against Bowe, for example, as he seemed to be purposely planning to foul Bowe out of there.
However the two absolute dirtiest, eye-gouging, low-punching, elbowing, toe-stamping, lace-rubbing fights I have ever seen are:
Harry Greb against Gene Tunney at light heavy, and Sandy Saddler against Willie Pep.
Any young fighter wanting to learn how to foul professionally should study the tapes - even their fouling technique and timing was perfect !! Awesome exhibitions of the not-so-Sweet Science !!
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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I'm sure this clip has been put up here a ton of times, but watch again if you have to.
Watch at about the 0:25 or 0:26 mark. Mayweather is standing in the corner doing nothing, and all the pushing in the middle of the ring, and then Judah runs around to the other side to get involved. If Judah just stayed in his corner and let the people in the middle of the ring do whatever they were gonna do, he wouldn't have gotten a year.
Looking around that mark it looked like Ellerby grabbed Zab's dad and thats when Zab jumped in and hit Ellerby in the back. Did you see that too ???
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Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy
I know he hit him twice though and it was a fucking Beaut the 2nd and just took all the momentum away from Tito .
Thing is fighters rarely get d'qed in big fights so they know they can get away with it .
My opinion is those low blows swayed the fight .
That was the common consensous at ringside as well .
Trinidad did that when under pressure apparently. Because I remmber he fought Yori Boy Campos and was dropped and when the pressure was on him he resorted to low blows then as well.
