Re: Ice Cold Changed His Mind Slighty About Ali Was He Overrated ??
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Originally Posted by DarkDestroyer
You guys crack me up.
Off course Ali was human but he was an exceptional athlete with great moral standards. This seems to be lacking in modern day fighters
He was open for the left hook though(see Cooper, Frazier))
He would handle Holyfield with ease, same with Lewis and Tyson
A prime vs prime against Holmes would be very competitive indeed
Let's be candid here.
Off course you can debate about individual matchups but be that as it may i still think he will never be surpassed as The G.O.A.T.
Ali cheated on multiple wives, and was a biggot toward men of his own race not to mention men that weren't ;)
Re: Ice Cold Changed His Mind Slighty About Ali Was He Overrated ??
I'm not even going to count the ways in which that's the dumbest question I've ever heard.
Re: Ice Cold Changed His Mind Slighty About Ali Was He Overrated ??
True but what has that to do with his boxing skills and accomplishments ?
He never ducked anybody and stood for his convictions even if that ment going to jail and being pennyless.
They robbed him oand us of a mighty fine 3 years of artistry
And what do you mean by biggot ? You sound a awful lot like Joe Frazier.
Re: Ice Cold Changed His Mind Slighty About Ali Was He Overrated ??
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Originally Posted by Brockton Bomber
I'm not even going to count the ways in which that's the dumbest question I've ever heard.
Why bother posting then ::**
Its good debate its got loads of people replying and i have some good points if you read back and have a look.
Re: Ice Cold Changed His Mind Slighty About Ali Was He Overrated ??
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by DarkDestroyer
You guys crack me up.
Off course Ali was human but he was an exceptional athlete with great moral standards. This seems to be lacking in modern day fighters
He was open for the left hook though(see Cooper, Frazier))
He would handle Holyfield with ease, same with Lewis and Tyson
A prime vs prime against Holmes would be very competitive indeed
Let's be candid here.
Off course you can debate about individual matchups but be that as it may i still think he will never be surpassed as The G.O.A.T.
Ali cheated on multiple wives, and was a biggot toward men of his own race not to mention men that weren't ;)
yes but he never used steroids, therefore he has great moral standards ..... for a boxer ;D
Re: Ice Cold Changed His Mind Slighty About Ali Was He Overrated ??
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by DarkDestroyer
You guys crack me up.
Off course Ali was human but he was an exceptional athlete with great moral standards. This seems to be lacking in modern day fighters
He was open for the left hook though(see Cooper, Frazier))
He would handle Holyfield with ease, same with Lewis and Tyson
A prime vs prime against Holmes would be very competitive indeed
Let's be candid here.
Off course you can debate about individual matchups but be that as it may i still think he will never be surpassed as The G.O.A.T.
Ali cheated on multiple wives, and was a biggot toward men of his own race not to mention men that weren't ;)
yes but he never used steroids, therefore he has great moral standards ..... for a boxer ;D
Yea we have no proof anyone else has either :-X
Re: Ice Cold Changed His Mind Slighty About Ali Was He Overrated ??
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by DarkDestroyer
You guys crack me up.
Off course Ali was human but he was an exceptional athlete with great moral standards. This seems to be lacking in modern day fighters
He was open for the left hook though(see Cooper, Frazier))
He would handle Holyfield with ease, same with Lewis and Tyson
A prime vs prime against Holmes would be very competitive indeed
Let's be candid here.
Off course you can debate about individual matchups but be that as it may i still think he will never be surpassed as The G.O.A.T.
Ali cheated on multiple wives, and was a biggot toward men of his own race not to mention men that weren't ;)
yes but he never used steroids, therefore he has great moral standards ..... for a boxer ;D
Yea we have no proof anyone else has either :-X
they weren't around til the 80's to my knowledge and if he did juice for the berbick and holmes fight, they didn't work too well for him. Besides i dont think steroids help that much in boxing anyways you can get as strong as you want but it wont give you a better punching technique or chin.
Re: Ice Cold Changed His Mind Slighty About Ali Was He Overrated ??
i still think ali was the greatest heavy 2 ever pick up the gloves
he dominated the golden era of boxing and beat the biggest names. he was the quickest heavy with the best footwork.
I know u feel larry holmes was the best HW and i would never argue with any1 for putting holmes as the greatest hw....he was 2 good for his time and nobody beat him. i think he could have beaten many of the greats except ali. ali would be able to win by a sd--he was faster and would land more combos. he would find someway 2get past larrys jab. i'll never put down holmes-
2 me holmes cant be greatest, because thats ali spot
cc-4 saying what u believe
Re: Ice Cold Changed His Mind Slighty About Ali Was He Overrated ??
yes ali was overrated and so was foreman.
Re: Ice Cold Changed His Mind Slighty About Ali Was He Overrated ??
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Originally Posted by undefeated
i still think ali was the greatest heavy 2 ever pick up the gloves
he dominated the golden era of boxing and beat the biggest names. he was the quickest heavy with the best footwork.
I know u feel larry holmes was the best HW and i would never argue with any1 for putting holmes as the greatest hw....he was 2 good for his time and nobody beat him. i think he could have beaten many of the greats except ali. ali would be able to win by a sd--he was faster and would land more combos. he would find someway 2get past larrys jab. i'll never put down holmes-
2 me holmes cant be greatest, because thats ali spot
cc-4 saying what u believe
Thanks mate :coolclick: right back at you.
Re: Ice Cold Changed His Mind Slighty About Ali Was He Overrated ??
He was overrated in some ways. Not all ways. He had an overabundance of heart,stamina and reiliancy. He was very entertaining. It's hard to call any boxer the greatest, because we all know each boxer could lose in any given fight. His character was cartoonish and larger than life.
Re: Ice Cold Changed His Mind Slighty About Ali Was He Overrated ??
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Originally Posted by DarkDestroyer
You guys crack me up.
Off course Ali was human but he was an exceptional athlete with great moral standards. This seems to be lacking in modern day fighters
He was open for the left hook though(see Cooper, Frazier))
He would handle Holyfield with ease, same with Lewis and Tyson
[size=10pt][/size]A prime vs prime against Holmes would be very competitive indeed
u cant compare holmes to ali;holmes was alis sparring partner,enough said.
Let's be candid here.
Off course you can debate about individual matchups but be that as it may i still think he will never be surpassed as The G.O.A.T.
Re: Ice Cold Changed His Mind Slighty About Ali Was He Overrated ??
You bring up good points Ice cold. I would not call him overrated, but I can't say he'd be my #1. If I had one gripe about Ali, it would have been for him to be more serious at times. I think he overlooked alot of guys, and we all know how much in love with himself he was, therefore he didn't care. After the long layoff, and then losing to Joe, and, his mobility not what it was in the 60s. For him to come back and KO Foreman, and beat Joe twice, makes a very loud statement. Not many boxers have been in that type of scenario. But, Tyson couldn't do it, and he's ranked top ten heavies of all time.
Allthough, I might not choose him as #1, I can say that I wouldn't bet money against the man.
