Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
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Originally Posted by Hairdoo
The bottom line is Oscar has faced everything Floyd has to offer before and stacked the odds in his favour. Floyd is in uncharted territory.
The way I see it the guy that stood and froze up a couple of times early opposite Judah would of got sparked by Oscar. The guy that was leaning back and jumping in with his chin out against Baldomir would have got sparked by Oscar. The guy that held his own against Hopkins for 9 rounds is good enough to beat lil'Floyd.
great pics dude
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great pics by the way. Where did you find them? If you did that then that is great work. Especially the first picture of Floyd on the floor. That is exactly how Oscar would look if he knocked down Floyd. Great pictures.
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That is exactly how Oscar would look if he knocked down Floyd. Great pictures. Legend
Or like this.. :o
Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
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Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
great pics by the way. Where did you find them? If you did that then that is great work. Especially the first picture of Floyd on the floor. That is exactly how Oscar would look if he knocked down Floyd. Great pictures.
They're not mine I stole them from someone more talented than myself at another forum that I'd prefer not to mention. :disguise:
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Well they are great pics and the first one is almost exactly how Oscar would look.
I have been looking at the stats of Oscar and Floyd and their opponents. Oscar has a 73 inch reach and Floyd a 72 inch reach not much difference.. Floyd is 5-8 and Oscar is 5-10 1/2.. Oscar Opponents recently Mayorga is 5-9 and has a 69 inch reach-and he hit Oscar enough, although his style is wild and he takes punches to give. Mosley has a 74 inch reach and is 5-9. Hopkins is 6-1 75 inch reach,, Vargas 5-10 74 inch reach, Castillejo is 5-10 tall with a 72 inch reach, Quartey 5-7 1/2 71 inch reach, Chavez 5-7 tall with a 67 inch reach. Some of Floyd's opponents. Baldomir 5-7 tall and 67 inch reach, Judah 5-7 tall with a 72 inch reach, Mitchell 5-7 tall 72 inch reach, Castillo 5-8 tall 69 inch reach,, Corrales 5-11 tall with a 70 inch reach,-which explains why Corrales does not use much of a jab. I am not sure what I make out of these stats. But Oscar's opponents are bigger and he is used to fighting big and smaller guys. Common opponents Genaro Hernandez (Oscar win TKO6, Floyd win TKO8) Floyd fought Hernandez 3 years later, Arturo Gatti (Oscar W TKO 5, Floyd TKO 6)
Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
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Originally Posted by liquid
So Oscar fought Mayorga as a warm-up/confidence booster. Let's analyze that. Usually when a fighter takes a warm-up does he wait a whole year to fight again? And obviously Mayorga got under DLH's skin and that's why he fought a slugfest because he wanted to punish him. All that means is you can get inside Oscar's head and make him fight outside of the fight he should be employing. I think we'd all agree DLH could have beaten Mayorga a lot easier than he did. Now you come from glorified sparring partner a Cinco de Mayo ago to the best lb. for lb. fighter in the sport and you think Oscar is going to have it easy?
In the words of Marcellus Wallace (and I'm paraphrasing), "If you think yo ass is like wine and it get better with time, it don't.". Oscar is older, way more inactive and hasn't beaten a fighter of any significance since Fernando Vargas and that's 2002. And if you want to count the 2nd fight with Mosley I'll nullify it with Sturm.
Inactivity could present a problem. Even in knocking out Mayorga, at times he did seem a little rusty.
That's a big reason why I thought Mosley was such a big deal as a sparring partner. Not so much because of his speed and/or ability to emulate Floyd, but because 20 rounds of sparring with one of the best boxers in the world will really help Oscar shake off his rust. There's nothing like activity to stay sharp, but sparring with Mosley is sure better than sparring with anyone else to help get him sharp and ready.
Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
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Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65
great pics by the way. Where did you find them? If you did that then that is great work. Especially the first picture of Floyd on the floor. That is exactly how Oscar would look if he knocked down Floyd. Great pictures.
They're not mine I stole them from someone more talented than myself at another forum that I'd prefer not to mention. :disguise:
Yea pretty clever putting Delahoya's head,trunks and gloves on Valuevs body... ;D
Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
I am right their with you except for the age factor, if oscar was the same age Id be supremely confident
Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
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Originally Posted by outspoken
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Now im not talking about Oscar getting a SP, or lucky late KO... Im talking about Oscar walking in and dominating lil Floyd Mayweather and outboxing him, then pherhaps maybe knocking him out in the late rounds. I think Oscar is stronger, just as fast, and more determine then Floyd. It's obvious floyd has never faced someone like Oscar, he has more reach then him, he is at his weight while floyd is moving up. He can box just as he can slug. I seriously dont see Floyd winning.... who agrees? ;D
that comment alone is why you don't know what the hell you're talking about.....
Yeah and you having Tito as your Top 5 is a hell of a reason for me to think your a dumbass. Tito was a great fighter sure... no way near Top 5 not even 10... Way more legends.. You however look like a mainstream punk with Recent "big name" with fighters like Shane, Floyd, Holyfield, tito, and RJJ in ur top 5. Go watch espn classic n then come back. Its not like Floyd is a speed machine, and is going to bomb DLH with Dragon Ball Z lightling fast attacks... what he will do get sit on his arse lightning fast!!!
Tito is one of my all time favs..not top 5 all time...and again a swing and a miss for your assesment of something or someone that is...much like you thinking that oscar is as fast as floyd is, or even close for that matter...it makes sense that someone as delusional as you wouldn't be able to bring any facts to back your idiotic statement that oscar is just as fast as floyd..instead you attempted to attack me personally and just like you obviously didn't know shit earlier nothing has changed...tool ;)
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Manny P. can you believe I do not know how you guys get the quotes in blue on yoru responses. Yeah I think Oscar will get in the rhythm of testing the waters, but he sometime gets caught in that trap and then might get in Floyd's timing. Remember the Quartey fight when Oscar and Ike didn't do anything until the other guy did. I thought that fight was entertaining and boring at the same time.
Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
This fight will only has two ways it will go....
1...floyd v baldomir...floyd pot shots oscar from the outside all night to 120-08 or 119-109
2. floyd beats oscars ass for 10 rounds then forgets that power is the last thing to go and tries to stand in with oscar and eats a straight right then left hook that ends his night...
Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
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just as fast, and more determine then Floyd.
That speed statement is the funniest thing I think I ever read on this forum..... Oscar is in NO WAY on par with Floyds speed or even quickness for that matter
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seriously dont see Floyd winning.... who agrees?
Certainly not I sir ;)
Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
This fight will only has two ways it will go....
1...floyd v baldomir...floyd pot shots oscar from the outside all night to 120-08 or 119-109
2. floyd beats oscars a** for 10 rounds then forgets that power is the last thing to go and tries to stand in with oscar and eats a straight right then left hook that ends his night...
Pretty much how I have, PBF runs for his life and pot shots or Oscar smashes him down, I hope it's the latter.
Do we know if they agreed to a smaller or larger ring?
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Originally Posted by Missy
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
This fight will only has two ways it will go....
1...floyd v baldomir...floyd pot shots oscar from the outside all night to 120-08 or 119-109
2. floyd beats oscars a** for 10 rounds then forgets that power is the last thing to go and tries to stand in with oscar and eats a straight right then left hook that ends his night...
Pretty much how I have, PBF runs for his life and pot shots or Oscar smashes him down, I hope it's the latter.
Do we know if they agreed to a smaller or larger ring?
Just watch tomorrow.. Oscar WILL BE JUST AS FAST as floyd, and Floyd is going to get KNOCK THE FUK OUT... remember this words...
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