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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Right im coping and pasting what i said Troy
I think it was more to do with Tillis's movement that made Tyson unsure and he actually never met anyone even in his championship reign that fought the way Tillis did against Tyson Tucker tried to but his offense went down after 4 rounds and went into running and surviving and Berbick had no real movement and Berbick had worse style match up ever against Tyson and Tyson almost bloody killed Berbick it was like a ghost keep knocking down Berbick as i said i like watching Tyson fights they are entertaining infact im going to watch Berbick one again i'll end this by saying i don't really like tyson but he had great skills and brought excitement back into hw divison when it was really lacking excitement.
ok fair enough but i think the fact that tyson had never gone past the 5th rd before played a big part in his performance
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Horrible thing with Tyson was when his career ended so did my childhood if you get me
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Horrible thing with Tyson was when his career ended so did my childhood if you get me
:lol: must of been amazing experience for you guys to see such an exciting hw fighter like Tyson at the time must of been amazing.
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He was amazing and i bet he's the most talked about heavyweight of all time when people have had some fist they dont say you look like you've been 10 rounds with Ali,Foreman,Holmes, or Lewis they say Tyson ;) ;D
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nice video its a good reminder of what ali would have done to him ;D
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I look back and see that the only way evander holyfield was able to beat tyson was by holding. He held constantly. If there was no holding in those two fights, holyfield would have been sparked in both.
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Originally Posted by sexydarin
I look back and see that the only way evander holyfield was able to beat tyson was by holding. He held constantly. If there was no holding in those two fights, holyfield would have been sparked in both.
Coolclick number 30 for you thats what i always say Holyfield would never have been able to stand toe to toe with Tyson
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Originally Posted by sexydarin
I look back and see that the only way evander holyfield was able to beat tyson was by holding. He held constantly. If there was no holding in those two fights, holyfield would have been sparked in both.
Thats quite silly to say if there was no holding well Ali held constantly in his fights so he wouldn't of won any either quite a silly statement if you think about it thats what you have to do against power punches to neutralize them on inside.
Re: mike tyson vs james tillis... video
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Can't help but feel ICE that you just can't see past your hate for Tyson i feel your just constantly negative towards him because you don't like him this is nothing to do with his skills as a fighter its to do with you not liking him in my opinion.
The stuff you say about calzaghe is way more off base than what ice is saying.
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
ok regarding this tillis fight, i would like to point out that tyson was only 13 months into his pro-carrer....thats 13 months people :o he was still inexperienced and was unsure of going the distance, thats why you'll notice after rd 6 i think tyson stops punching to save his energy cause his worried about gassing out.
and tillis made a good account of himself, he came in better shape than he had before and danced around for 10rds. but tyson needed this fight as a learning curve and thats all it was ,was a learning curve nothing more so stop judging tyson on this fight. it was only 13 months into his pro career...thats i year folks
Ok lets judge him after 5 years when surely by that time anybody else would be in their prime.... Oh wait tysons career was over by then. Saying that judging him in his first couple of years isn't accurate is a joke because in all honesty thats when he was at his best. By the time tyson fought tillis he was on a gradual decline that can be easily seen if you study all of his earlier fights. Winning the title restored his intensity but that started to fade out as well. Now i'll be the first to say that tyson on his best night gives just about every ATG a run for their money or a loss but you have to understand that by the time the tillis fight came around, tyson was about as good as he was gonna get, essentially that is a prime tyson. Ali was faster, stronger, and much more punch commited than tillis. The tillis fight exposes tyson to show that he would struggle against bigger guys with great jabs and movement and ai was the best of them.
Re: mike tyson vs james tillis... video
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Can't help but feel ICE that you just can't see past your hate for Tyson i feel your just constantly negative towards him because you don't like him this is nothing to do with his skills as a fighter its to do with you not liking him in my opinion.
The stuff you say about calzaghe is way more off base than what ice is saying.
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Originally Posted by Troy McClure
ok regarding this tillis fight, i would like to point out that tyson was only 13 months into his pro-carrer....thats 13 months people :o he was still inexperienced and was unsure of going the distance, thats why you'll notice after rd 6 i think tyson stops punching to save his energy cause his worried about gassing out.
and tillis made a good account of himself, he came in better shape than he had before and danced around for 10rds. but tyson needed this fight as a learning curve and thats all it was ,was a learning curve nothing more so stop judging tyson on this fight. it was only 13 months into his pro career...thats i year folks
Ok lets judge him after 5 years when surely by that time anybody else would be in their prime.... Oh wait tysons career was over by then. Saying that judging him in his first couple of years isn't accurate is a joke because in all honesty thats when he was at his best. By the time tyson fought tillis he was on a gradual decline that can be easily seen if you study all of his earlier fights. Winning the title restored his intensity but that started to fade out as well. Now i'll be the first to say that tyson on his best night gives just about every ATG a run for their money or a loss but you have to understand that by the time the tillis fight came around, tyson was about as good as he was gonna get, essentially that is a prime tyson. Ali was faster, stronger, and much more punch commited than tillis. The tillis fight exposes tyson to show that he would struggle against bigger guys with great jabs and movement and ai was the best of them.
Well said and also people say Tyson was this a that yet they judge him on 2 rounds vs Berbick and not even 1 round vs Spinks you can't judge if someone was actually one of the greatest off 3 rounds and like you said his career was over in less than 5 years you can't really judge how good he really is because Berbick and Spinks fights were over too quickly.
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Can't help but feel ICE that you just can't see past your hate for Tyson i feel your just constantly negative towards him because you don't like him this is nothing to do with his skills as a fighter its to do with you not liking him in my opinion.
The stuff you say about calzaghe is way more off base than what ice is saying.
What i say about Calzaghe is true and ive backed it up enough times with lists of who he could of fought and the only decent people he has fought i don't just hate on him.
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Can't help but feel ICE that you just can't see past your hate for Tyson i feel your just constantly negative towards him because you don't like him this is nothing to do with his skills as a fighter its to do with you not liking him in my opinion.
The stuff you say about calzaghe is way more off base than what ice is saying.
What i say about Calzaghe is true and ive backed it up enough times with lists of who he could of fought and the only decent people he has fought
i don't just hate on him.
Dude i'll admit that i hate on mma and to an extent wlad but the shit you say about calzaghe is ridiculous. I don't care if you back it up you CONSTANTLY bash him every chance you get. I have not seen one calzaghe thread where you haven't said some snide comment about him. I'm just saying we get it and you could tune it down a notch.
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Errrrrrrmm!! let me think about it NO!!!! ;D
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Errrrrrrmm!! let me think about it NO!!!! ;D
The sc you gave me is much appreciated ::**
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
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Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
Errrrrrrmm!! let me think about it NO!!!! ;D
The sc you gave me is much appreciated ::**
I have'nt given you one mate