Re: Your most overrated British boxers?
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Originally Posted by katfight
haha i laughed so hard reading this post we should have a seperate post just for takin piss out of naz lmaolmao
that fight was quality
i live in rotherham nxt to sheffield so loads of naz fans here and
i knew ppl who didnt know barrera had never heard of him and i swore blind naz wud get destroyed
no-one believed me
the thing bout naz was he was entertainment i aint saying he couldnt box but thats not wat got him headlines>it was his f***ing about !!showboating(which pisses me off and calzaghe lost respect from me in the lacy fight for that)
naz said him self it only takes two pound of pressure in the right spot for a knock out punch and thats wat he went for in his fights fun to watch for some but not me.i like boxing for the sport not for the dancing around and taking the piss
his last fight was a joke too against manuel calvo and thats y he's stayed away he got booed to hell and he thrived on ppl loving the comedy and showboating
anyway wat i was originally gonna post for was to say i quite like alex arthur but agree with wat bin said u cant call him over rated cus no one shouting that he the best in the world
Katfight how can you agree with this lot Naz was far from overrated really WBO champ 15 defences IBF and WBC champ aswell also beat WBA champ Vasquez who was stripped for fighting Naz.I thought Naz would beat Barrera similar to how Junior Jones beat him first time but i was wrong but he was only about 3 points up on scorecards but he did soundly beat him.But to say Naz was overrated is very harsh its not like he fought nothing but tomato cans like some british fighters lets not forget he only had 37 fights.
Belcastro Naz's 12 th fight for european title Belcastro was a good tough pro Naz dropped him twice and won every round for UD12.
Robinson Naz's first fight at featherweight and for a genuine world title the WBO Robinson a good strong feather ranked number 5 in the ring mag at the time Naz stops him in 8 one sided rounds I think Naz also became youngest british or english world champ.
Medina a former WBC and IBF world champ very highly ranked a world class operator Naz drops him 3 times and stops him in 11 Naz was suffering with flu at the time and it was obvious it was no excuse as you could hear it in his voice as he spoke after the fight.Medina went on after the fight to regain the IBF title and beat Scott Harrison for the WBO title years later.
Johnson was ranked number 1 featherweight in the world he was IBF champ Naz won KO 8
Badillo a good strong featherweight who had given Johnson a good fight he was WBO number 1 contender Naz stood him on his head stopped him in 7.
Kelley KO4 a good war Kelley had only lost once in about 50 fights.
Vasquez he was WBA champ but was stripped for fighting Naz Naz stopped him in 7 Vasquez was a good strong pro.
McCullough UD12 good result nobody KO's McCullough.
Ingle KO11 Ingle was dropped 3 times had some sucess himself in the fight before been stopped he went on after the Naz fight to win the IBF title off Medina this proved it was a good result for Naz.
Soto tough Mexican WBC champ it was a scrappy fight but Naz won UD12.
Bungu top superbantam champ for years TKO4 win for Naz.
Re: Your most overrated British boxers?
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Originally Posted by Sweet_T
Robin Reid...
He scored well with the left hook against Calzagie but other than that is just a pretty well chiseled body!
Pele Reid ...just a kickboxer
Herbie Hide...Would have made a great cruserweight! Was fast but couldnt take a shot! He may still dent the cruserweights one day!
The little Irish guy...the pocket rocket. Cant think of his name and, ok, he' s not British but he was so dull! Tough but I dont think he ever troubled people with his punches.
Was never too sure of Colin McMillan towards the end of his career. He had a few good fights I guess.
Tc
Herbie is fighting at Cruiser...he fought in Turkey earlier in June and knocked the guy out in the 1st. He should've always been a cruiser IMO
Re: Your most overrated British boxers?
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Originally Posted by katfight
haha i laughed so hard reading this post we should have a seperate post just for takin piss out of naz lmaolmao
that fight was quality
i live in rotherham nxt to sheffield so loads of naz fans here and
i knew ppl who didnt know barrera had never heard of him and i swore blind naz wud get destroyed
no-one believed me
the thing bout naz was he was entertainment i aint saying he couldnt box but thats not wat got him headlines>it was his f***ing about !!showboating(which pisses me off and calzaghe lost respect from me in the lacy fight for that)
naz said him self it only takes two pound of pressure in the right spot for a knock out punch and thats wat he went for in his fights fun to watch for some but not me.i like boxing for the sport not for the dancing around and taking the piss
his last fight was a joke too against manuel calvo and thats y he's stayed away he got booed to hell and he thrived on ppl loving the comedy and showboating
anyway wat i was originally gonna post for was to say i quite like alex arthur but agree with wat bin said u cant call him over rated cus no one shouting that he the best in the world
Katfight how can you agree with this lot Naz was far from overrated really WBO champ 15 defences IBF and WBC champ aswell also beat WBA champ Vasquez who was stripped for fighting Naz.I thought Naz would beat Barrera similar to how Junior Jones beat him first time but i was wrong but he was only about 3 points up on scorecards but he did soundly beat him.But to say Naz was overrated is very harsh its not like he fought nothing but tomato cans like some british fighters lets not forget he only had 37 fights.
Belcastro Naz's 12 th fight for european title Belcastro was a good tough pro Naz dropped him twice and won every round for UD12.
Robinson Naz's first fight at featherweight and for a genuine world title the WBO Robinson a good strong feather ranked number 5 in the ring mag at the time Naz stops him in 8 one sided rounds I think Naz also became youngest british or english world champ.
Medina a former WBC and IBF world champ very highly ranked a world class operator Naz drops him 3 times and stops him in 11 Naz was suffering with flu at the time and it was obvious it was no excuse as you could hear it in his voice as he spoke after the fight.Medina went on after the fight to regain the IBF title and beat Scott Harrison for the WBO title years later.
Johnson was ranked number 1 featherweight in the world he was IBF champ Naz won KO 8
Badillo a good strong featherweight who had given Johnson a good fight he was WBO number 1 contender Naz stood him on his head stopped him in 7.
Kelley KO4 a good war Kelley had only lost once in about 50 fights.
Vasquez he was WBA champ but was stripped for fighting Naz Naz stopped him in 7 Vasquez was a good strong pro.
McCullough UD12 good result nobody KO's McCullough.
Ingle KO11 Ingle was dropped 3 times had some sucess himself in the fight before been stopped he went on after the Naz fight to win the IBF title off Medina this proved it was a good result for Naz.
Soto tough Mexican WBC champ it was a scrappy fight but Naz won UD12.
Bungu top superbantam champ for years TKO4 win for Naz.
i didnt say he couldnt box
i said thats not why he was popular
he went for the one punch knockout shot in most of his fights
ppl who loved him (and not theboxing) thought the way he kept his hands down was funny and cool
i though it was him being a prick
and a twat and how wen u did catch him with a nice shot he'd wobble his legs to try hide that it hurt
is that really wat's good about boxing ?
not imo
so re read what i wrote :P i was just laughing at the piss take of naz
Re: Your most overrated British boxers?
Naz was a brilliant fighter. The only people that think otherwise are people that can't discern between someones personality and someones ability... or were too young to remember watching him live bashing the fuck out of everyone.
Re: Your most overrated British boxers?
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Naz was a brilliant fighter. The only people that think otherwise are people that can't discern between someones personality and someones ability... or were too young to remember watching him live bashing the F*** out of everyone.
he took his cocky personality into the ring so how can u seperate the two ???
and i dont remember saying couldnt box i said thats not what he was known for
im not too young to remember his fights
and he didnt bash the fuck out of everyone or he'd still be around
one loss and he quit if he was such a brillaint boxer why didnt he take that loss on the chin and carry on ?
Re: Your most overrated British boxers?
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Naz was a brilliant fighter. The only people that think otherwise are people that can't discern between someones personality and someones ability... or were too young to remember watching him live bashing the F*** out of everyone.
he took his cocky personality into the ring so how can u seperate the two ???
and i dont remember saying couldnt box i said thats not what he was known for
im not too young to remember his fights
and he didnt bash the fuck out of everyone or he'd still be around
one loss and he quit if he was such a brillaint boxer why didnt he take that loss on the chin and carry on ?
He bashed the fuck out of everyone for nine years, six as world champ, whilst his brilliant career lasted.
Why didn't he carry on? Probably being 27 years old and having £40m quid had something to do with it. ;)
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He bashed the F*** out of everyone for nine years, six as world champ, whilst his brilliant career lasted.
Why didn't he carry on? Probably being 27 years old and having £40m quid had something to do with it. ;)
Or realising that he wasn't the greatest fighter in the world as he had proclaimed, and deep down, as he believed. I reckon that he just couldn't get over the fact that he wasnt the greatest ever, as all the hype around him had built up.
Re: Your most overrated British boxers?
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Fenster
He bashed the F*** out of everyone for nine years, six as world champ, whilst his brilliant career lasted.
Why didn't he carry on? Probably being 27 years old and having £40m quid had something to do with it. ;)
Or realising that he wasn't the greatest fighter in the world as he had proclaimed, and deep down, as he believed. I reckon that he just couldn't get over the fact that he wasnt the greatest ever, as all the hype around him had built up.
I think that was part of it too. I truely believe in the end he believed - like all religious Bible bashing nuts - Allah was getting him through the tough fights and wouldn't allow him to lose.
Naz wasn't overrated but Naz overrated Naz. ;)
Re: Your most overrated British boxers?
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Originally Posted by TYSONMAYWEATHER
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Originally Posted by katfight
haha i laughed so hard reading this post we should have a seperate post just for takin piss out of naz lmaolmao
that fight was quality
i live in rotherham nxt to sheffield so loads of naz fans here and
i knew ppl who didnt know barrera had never heard of him and i swore blind naz wud get destroyed
no-one believed me
the thing bout naz was he was entertainment i aint saying he couldnt box but thats not wat got him headlines>it was his f***ing about !!showboating(which pisses me off and calzaghe lost respect from me in the lacy fight for that)
naz said him self it only takes two pound of pressure in the right spot for a knock out punch and thats wat he went for in his fights fun to watch for some but not me.i like boxing for the sport not for the dancing around and taking the piss
his last fight was a joke too against manuel calvo and thats y he's stayed away he got booed to hell and he thrived on ppl loving the comedy and showboating
anyway wat i was originally gonna post for was to say i quite like alex arthur but agree with wat bin said u cant call him over rated cus no one shouting that he the best in the world
Katfight how can you agree with this lot Naz was far from overrated really WBO champ 15 defences IBF and WBC champ aswell also beat WBA champ Vasquez who was stripped for fighting Naz.I thought Naz would beat Barrera similar to how Junior Jones beat him first time but i was wrong but he was only about 3 points up on scorecards but he did soundly beat him.But to say Naz was overrated is very harsh its not like he fought nothing but tomato cans like some british fighters lets not forget he only had 37 fights.
Belcastro Naz's 12 th fight for european title Belcastro was a good tough pro Naz dropped him twice and won every round for UD12.
Robinson Naz's first fight at featherweight and for a genuine world title the WBO Robinson a good strong feather ranked number 5 in the ring mag at the time Naz stops him in 8 one sided rounds I think Naz also became youngest british or english world champ.
Medina a former WBC and IBF world champ very highly ranked a world class operator Naz drops him 3 times and stops him in 11 Naz was suffering with flu at the time and it was obvious it was no excuse as you could hear it in his voice as he spoke after the fight.Medina went on after the fight to regain the IBF title and beat Scott Harrison for the WBO title years later.
Johnson was ranked number 1 featherweight in the world he was IBF champ Naz won KO 8
Badillo a good strong featherweight who had given Johnson a good fight he was WBO number 1 contender Naz stood him on his head stopped him in 7.
Kelley KO4 a good war Kelley had only lost once in about 50 fights.
Vasquez he was WBA champ but was stripped for fighting Naz Naz stopped him in 7 Vasquez was a good strong pro.
McCullough UD12 good result nobody KO's McCullough.
Ingle KO11 Ingle was dropped 3 times had some sucess himself in the fight before been stopped he went on after the Naz fight to win the IBF title off Medina this proved it was a good result for Naz.
Soto tough Mexican WBC champ it was a scrappy fight but Naz won UD12.
Bungu top superbantam champ for years TKO4 win for Naz.
cc mate, some great points, some people forget how good he was and his attitude blinkers that in some peoples eyes, Naz was done as soon as his family took over his career, they were more money minded, there was no discipline in the Naz camp once Ingle had gone. Naz was seen as the king by all his shitty entourage and basically trained if and when he wanted, he was getting beaten up by his sparring partners before the Barerra fight and was more intrested in getting the biggest room at the Casino, while Barerra was training his Maxican arse off in the Mountains. It's a sahme becasue Naz was a great fighter and anyone who thinks that was the real Naz in that ring havent really got a clue, no movement no speed his timing wasnt there nothing.
He quit because the discipline had gone, there was no one like Ingle to tell him what to do when to do it, he turned lazy and basically didnt have the hunger anymore, he made his money and didnt coem back. Quite simple.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by Fenster
He bashed the F*** out of everyone for nine years, six as world champ, whilst his brilliant career lasted.
Why didn't he carry on? Probably being 27 years old and having £40m quid had something to do with it. ;)
Or realising that he wasn't the greatest fighter in the world as he had proclaimed, and deep down, as he believed. I reckon that he just couldn't get over the fact that he wasnt the greatest ever, as all the hype around him had built up.
I think that was part of it too. I truely believe in the end he believed -
like all religious Bible bashing nuts - Allah was getting him through the tough fights and wouldn't allow him to lose.
Naz wasn't overrated but Naz overrated Naz. ;)
That's the analogy i was looking for! :p
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Whi are your most overrated but popular British boxers of recent years?
I'll start by saying Nasheem Hamed (only fought one world class boxer and was destroyed, Lloyd Hoenyghan (1 good fight does not make a good career), Paul Ryan (please), Audley Harrison (again erm), Herbie Hide (Herbie who), Pele Reid (hahah), Paul Hodgkinson, Kirkland Lang, Crawford Ashley (oh not the body), Johnny Armour, Takaloo, Adrian Dodson and who could forget Gary Jacobs!
Hamed - Calzaghe are both good fighters but over protected and over rated -...................................a Frank Warren link in here somewere ? ;D ;D
Re: Your most overrated British boxers?
Hook and Hug Hatton. He's a minature John Ruiz. Please Ricky, stand and fight, and show your skills. Clinching is for heavyweights.
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Hook and Hug Hatton. He's a minature John Ruiz. Please Ricky, stand and fight, and show your skills. Clinching is for heavyweights.
true that...hes so overrated and creps floyds style
