Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
can't believe im doing this but
conjuction junction what your function
couldn't help it
i agree what ice is saying
that guy has down syndrome
you spell all the champions names back then
Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
I believe the guy is thinking right now and I may have come across the rough draft of his next post....
"I not wrong....I are anger grrrrrr.....beating heavyweight of 90's be easy for me to do.....easy as taking lesson in english from Tarzan, Tonto, and Frankenstien Monster"
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Holy Shit Lyle I've been laughing my ass off after that vid...JouLouis you might be one of the least informed posters I've ever seen...Bowe/Lewis/Holyfield/Tyson are all time top 20 HW's...This alone puts the nineties at #2 best era at least and really only behind the 70's b/c Ali/Foreman/Frazier are considered top 10 by many...We can nitpick all of these fighters and eras...The reality is if you are a champion and fight championship caliber fighters over a length of time your going to lose...As far as the Lennox/Vitali fight...I know Vitali was a replacement, but its not like Lennox wasn't training for a title fight and its not like we are talking about a 12 round epic. The fight went 6 rounds...I'm willing to bet LL could get in the ring right now and give us 6 good rounds. He was tired b/c a big man was in that ring giving him the fight of his life...I personally feel that he was lucky that he cut Vitali. I always wondered how Lennox would fair against a fighter that was his equal in size as well as a top talent. To me the fight showed that when Lennox couldn't "fight tall" and was forced to mix it up he was not nearly as dominant...We will never know and the record will always show a W for him, but I think he was on the way to being KO'd
Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
i''d take the 90's over this shit we have now.
Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
ccs to everyone with some sense finally like i will say again.
Riddick Bowe
Evander Holyfield
Razor Ruddock
Lennox Lewis
Tommy Morrison
all 5 of these fighters were good young fighters name me another hw era except 70s that had so many great young fighters.
Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Well this topic deserves a sad click and there you go.
If the division is so piss poor how about you go and be champ since the fighters are so bad and the division is so poor.
If you give me a time machine that would reverse me to the 90's then I would beat up all those bum back in the 90's
Obviously today devision is soo much stronger and I wouldn't make it anywhere not even in the gym around the corner from my house
Riddick Bowe would eat you
Tyson would chew your ears off
Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
i''d take the 90's over this S*** we have now.
agree
I'd take on the 90's fighter instead of the star we have now
I also notice lyle spent half a day looking for the law thing we were talking about
Because when I told her/him that anyone who has lived in america more than 20 years automatically become a citizen of america.
lyle liteterally took 4hrs just to reply back
But i give lyle credit for studying some law since she been watching that cartoon video and she has even uploaded it for evidence
Once lyle is over 7 years old she/he interest will not just be in cartoon anymore
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Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
a prime holifield was beaten my michael moorer 94
Lennox lewis was ko in 3:12 by oliver mccall in 94
And a washed up tyson was in jail in 94
Michael moorer was the no1 champion and was ko by a old fat george foreman.
This just show how poor the division was back in the 90's
holifield who look in good shape, fast, sharp and alway showing alot of heart in every fight.
Am just wondering can he beat the worst champion of the bunch as sultan ibragimov is weaker than most boxing contender out there.
Sultan ibragimov and ray austin fought one another as the fight ended a draw.
Sultan and ray austin both were given a shot at the world title
Obviously ray austin was destroy by the great klitschko in less than 4 minute as Klitschko never even needed to throw his right hand.
Sultan ibragimov beat up brigg and has probably knock brigg into retirement.
Can a legend like holyfield beat such a weak opponent like sultan ibragimov
there only 12 years difference between the fight
Foreman was over 20 year older than Michael moorer
Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
We will find out OCT 13
Riddick Bowe
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Michael Moorer
Mike Tyson
David Tua
Ike Ibeabuchi
Ray Mercer
Bert Cooper
Razor Ruddock
Tommy Morrison
Frank Bruno
Andrew Golota
Your telling me 90s hws were poor ?? 90s hws put on some of the greatest hw fights ever seen and 90s era was probably 2nd strongest era of hws ever only second to 70s name me another era that was as strong as the 90s except the 70s ??
Those aren't all hall of famers or even fringe hall of famers but that list is indeed impressive. There was nothing soft about the 90's. One of the 90's figureheads is getting a title shot today, that has to say something about him, the era he fought in, and the era we have today.
Re: Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
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Originally Posted by NotGuilty136
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
a prime holifield was beaten my michael moorer 94
Lennox lewis was ko in 3:12 by oliver mccall in 94
And a washed up tyson was in jail in 94
Michael moorer was the no1 champion and was ko by a old fat george foreman.
This just show how poor the division was back in the 90's
holifield who look in good shape, fast, sharp and alway showing alot of heart in every fight.
Am just wondering can he beat the worst champion of the bunch as sultan ibragimov is weaker than most boxing contender out there.
Sultan ibragimov and ray austin fought one another as the fight ended a draw.
Sultan and ray austin both were given a shot at the world title
Obviously ray austin was destroy by the great klitschko in less than 4 minute as Klitschko never even needed to throw his right hand.
Sultan ibragimov beat up brigg and has probably knock brigg into retirement.
Can a legend like holyfield beat such a weak opponent like sultan ibragimov
there only 12 years difference between the fight
Foreman was over 20 year older than Michael moorer
Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
We will find out OCT 13
Riddick Bowe
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Michael Moorer
Mike Tyson
David Tua
Ike Ibeabuchi
Ray Mercer
Bert Cooper
Razor Ruddock
Tommy Morrison
Frank Bruno
Andrew Golota
Your telling me 90s hws were poor ?? 90s hws put on some of the greatest hw fights ever seen and 90s era was probably 2nd strongest era of hws ever only second to 70s name me another era that was as strong as the 90s except the 70s ??
Those aren't all hall of famers or even fringe hall of famers but that list is indeed impressive. There was nothing soft about the 90's. One of the 90's figureheads is getting a title shot today, that has to say something about him, the era he fought in, and the era we have today.
incredibly insane
getting a shot and winning a title is 2 different things
George foreman at 45 was given 2 shot at the world title, 1st one at holyfield and
2nd one at michael moorer since moorer beat up holifield.
George foreman was 20yrs older than moorer
George foreman manage to ko the no 1 fighter at that time, so that truly ahow how bad the division was
Let see if holifield can beat the worst fighter champion of today era
Sultan ibragimov manage to get a draw against Ray austin just before Sultan beat shannon briggs. I personally feel ray austin was robbed.
Holifield is 12 years older than sultan ibragiov and 7years older than ray austin
But let see if holifield can do anywhere well as ray austin (ray austin is not even in top 50 of today era)
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I don't mean to be rude but could people please read before the ask a question i've already answered
Because I don't enjoy cut and pasting the same thing over again but once again i have
how can u say holifield who was ko by riddick bowe and few month later riddick bowe took a beatin from golata.
3 of these fighter were nobody
hav u forgot what lamon brewster done to golata
How was lennox a decent boxer when him and holifield lost against aray mercer as ray mercer was robbed.
A 44yr old larry holmes beat mercer by a bigger gap of point than a prime holifield or a prime lewis could.
larry himself was pushing age 50 in the 90's so was a actually a shadow of himself but still better than fighter like lewis and holifield which show how poor the division was.
I can't beleieve the way u have mention foreman he was also a very old person that again just show how pathetic the divison was back then especially when he beat the no1 guy.
there never ever been a time when many old people conquer the division
like holmes
foreman
bert cooper
morrison was ko by ray mercer
david tua is a nobody in 2 day heavyweight division and is just 34yrs old and that not old for 2 day heavyweight when considering oleg maskaev pushing 40 yrs old is a world champion
Also 1 year after lewis beat tua then chir byrd hammer tua.
please do not mention tyson especially after that loss in the in 1990 against a bum like douglous.
u still metion michael moroor after that shameful loss to a grandad foreman 21yrs gap in age
I couldn't mention sultan as one the great of this era even thou he ko a bum like holifield and there only a 13 year gap between the 2
this also show the high level of competition in today era
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
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Originally Posted by NotGuilty136
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
a prime holifield was beaten my michael moorer 94
Lennox lewis was ko in 3:12 by oliver mccall in 94
And a washed up tyson was in jail in 94
Michael moorer was the no1 champion and was ko by a old fat george foreman.
This just show how poor the division was back in the 90's
holifield who look in good shape, fast, sharp and alway showing alot of heart in every fight.
Am just wondering can he beat the worst champion of the bunch as sultan ibragimov is weaker than most boxing contender out there.
Sultan ibragimov and ray austin fought one another as the fight ended a draw.
Sultan and ray austin both were given a shot at the world title
Obviously ray austin was destroy by the great klitschko in less than 4 minute as Klitschko never even needed to throw his right hand.
Sultan ibragimov beat up brigg and has probably knock brigg into retirement.
Can a legend like holyfield beat such a weak opponent like sultan ibragimov
there only 12 years difference between the fight
Foreman was over 20 year older than Michael moorer
Is today Heavyweight division half as poor as the division was back in the 90's?
We will find out OCT 13
Riddick Bowe
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Michael Moorer
Mike Tyson
David Tua
Ike Ibeabuchi
Ray Mercer
Bert Cooper
Razor Ruddock
Tommy Morrison
Frank Bruno
Andrew Golota
Your telling me 90s hws were poor ?? 90s hws put on some of the greatest hw fights ever seen and 90s era was probably 2nd strongest era of hws ever only second to 70s name me another era that was as strong as the 90s except the 70s ??
Those aren't all hall of famers or even fringe hall of famers but that list is indeed impressive. There was nothing soft about the 90's. One of the 90's figureheads is getting a title shot today, that has to say something about him, the era he fought in, and the era we have today.
incredibly insane
getting a shot and winning a title is 2 different things
George foreman at 45 was given 2 shot at the world title, 1st one at holyfield and
2nd one at michael moorer since moorer beat up holifield.
George foreman was 20yrs older than moorer
George foreman manage to ko the no 1 fighter at that time, so that truly ahow how bad the division was
Let see if holifield can beat the worst fighter champion of today era
Sultan ibragimov manage to get a draw against Ray austin just before Sultan beat shannon briggs. I personally feel ray austin was robbed.
Holifield is 12 years older than sultan ibragiov and 7years older than ray austin
But let see if holifield can do anywhere well as ray austin (ray austin is not even in top 50 of today era)
Only because Moorer won very razor thin decision against Holyfield who was having trouble with his heart and hurt his shoulder in Moorer fight and just because Foreman become champ doesn't mean the division was weak don't be so stupid do you even know anything about 90s hw era except little details ??
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Originally Posted by ThegreatJoelouis
I don't mean to be rude but could people please read before the ask a question i've already answered
Because I don't enjoy cut and pasting the same thing over again but once again i have
how can u say holifield who was ko by riddick bowe and few month later riddick bowe took a beatin from golata.
3 of these fighter were nobody
hav u forgot what lamon brewster done to golata
How was lennox a decent boxer when him and holifield lost against aray mercer as ray mercer was robbed.
A 44yr old larry holmes beat mercer by a bigger gap of point than a prime holifield or a prime lewis could.
larry himself was pushing age 50 in the 90's so was a actually a shadow of himself but still better than fighter like lewis and holifield which show how poor the division was.
I can't beleieve the way u have mention foreman he was also a very old person that again just show how pathetic the divison was back then especially when he beat the no1 guy.
there never ever been a time when many old people conquer the division
like holmes
foreman
bert cooper
morrison was ko by ray mercer
david tua is a nobody in 2 day heavyweight division and is just 34yrs old and that not old for 2 day heavyweight when considering oleg maskaev pushing 40 yrs old is a world champion
Also 1 year after lewis beat tua then chir byrd hammer tua.
please do not mention tyson especially after that loss in the in 1990 against a bum like douglous.
u still metion michael moroor after that shameful loss to a grandad foreman 21yrs gap in age
I couldn't mention sultan as one the great of this era even thou he ko a bum like holifield and there only a 13 year gap between the 2
this also show the high level of competition in today era
And you said i don't understand English but yet your typing most of your words wrong and this statement is yet again another garbage statement we could do that in any era and pick holes fact of matter is 90s had more quality fighters than any other era except 70s and it doesn't matter what you say it doesn't change that fact if you can name me another era except 70s and name the fighters that had more quality than 90s prove me wrong please.
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Originally Posted by VanChilds
I knew I was right....For a minute I thought I may have missed some new law or something...I know there was some hoopla over the whole Arnie thing and him stating he wished he could run....
CC Van thanks for the research ;)
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Listen Louis you have to be the worst informed boxing fan i have ever heard and the first person i have sd 2 times so welcome to saddo i am not sure how long your stay please do every one a favor and read and watch film a bit more and dont get your info simple by looking at records and wins try watching the fights and reading about the fights so you don't look like a idiot
