Re: 5 Reasons Why Ricky Hatton Can Beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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I think we should just stop talking about it and see the fight there have been so many post on this it is starting to sound like a broken record one guy goes hatton going to do it and then someone says mayweather going to do i don't care for either but i dont like mayweather so i want hatton to win but he has to climb up one hell of a moutain to pull it off i hope the fight doesnt get boring and i just waste my money on it
This is what a boxing forum is for to debate on big fights past and present and to learn and debate with some good knowledgable posters nothing wrong in that you have to expect alot of threads on such a big fight like this one.
Hey ICE, tried to see Hatton winning in your head?
I keep looking at footage of Floyd for weakness in his game but I'm not getting anywhere. Seems to me....most of the small flaws in Floyds style are now fixed. You either have to be quicker or MUCH stronger to win. Only advantage I see for Rick at the moment is not having to make 140.......so training for a light welter bout and not having to worry about the weight may do him some good for a 12 round tear up.
I tried to look at it from Hatton's fan view aswell and frankly it didn't change my mind one bit Mayweather is facing nothing new to what he hasn't already faced Hatton is bringing nothing new to the table Mayweather has every advantage except power but like i said even Hatton's last outing at 147 his power didn't look all that much and Mayweather is no sissy hitter either he has good snap to his punches like i said Hatton's only chance is to land rib breaking body shot other than that i don't see what he brings different to what Castillo and Chavez didn't already try.
Could he ever make Floyd tired? I ain't sure these days, Rick aint looked like the 12 round force he used to before(and during)the Tszyu fight of late. I hope for a good fight.......the best man will win.
Could he ever make Floyd tired?
No i doubt it Mayweather is one the best conditioned boxers of all time he spars 15 rounds and does 10 minute rounds Mayweather is a gym rat.
Hatton does 15 rounds on the body bag with Billy and thats all offensive work. Hatton is also a gym rat (joke)
Hatton can do 100 rounds and it still won't help. Hatton ain't winning
Never said he was VD. Did I?
You didn't say it. But I know you were thinking it.
That's just silly to claim you can read my mind. Very silly.
I just did. Admit it. You were thinking it. Let's no resort to lying. Save what little dignity you still have.
Your a bit mental. Thats ok :-*
Re: 5 Reasons Why Ricky Hatton Can Beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.
So, after reading 4 pages of posts with some very convincing arguments, I have been left with no choice other than to believe Hatton has veeeeeeeeery slim to absolutely no chance of winning this fight. I had posted in a prior thread about how I thought this was a move in the right direction for floyd as far as stepping up his competition. Wow, how wrong I was. Apparently, floyd is only taking this fight because Ricky said some bad things about him. He wants to punish a guy who is obviously not in his league.
So when (or will) floyd make a step towards fighting someone who can challenge him? Should you be content with a career where guys only gave him some minor problems but he easily won because he was waaaaaaaaaay too good for them?
Re: 5 Reasons Why Ricky Hatton Can Beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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So, after reading 4 pages of posts with some very convincing arguments, I have been left with no choice other than to believe Hatton has veeeeeeeeery slim to absolutely no chance of winning this fight. I had posted in a prior thread about how I thought this was a move in the right direction for floyd as far as stepping up his competition. Wow, how wrong I was. Apparently, floyd is only taking this fight because Ricky said some bad things about him. He wants to punish a guy who is obviously not in his league.
So when (or will) floyd make a step towards fighting someone who can challenge him? Should you be content with a career where guys only gave him some minor problems but he easily won because he was waaaaaaaaaay too good for them?
I'm guessing De La Hoya was just some journeyman.
Re: 5 Reasons Why Ricky Hatton Can Beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.
yet again i think paul williams is the man to beat flyode i go with shane but by the time they fight i think mosly will be to old to be fighting mayweather but who knows
Re: 5 Reasons Why Ricky Hatton Can Beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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So, after reading 4 pages of posts with some very convincing arguments, I have been left with no choice other than to believe Hatton has veeeeeeeeery slim to absolutely no chance of winning this fight. I had posted in a prior thread about how I thought this was a move in the right direction for floyd as far as stepping up his competition. Wow, how wrong I was. Apparently, floyd is only taking this fight because Ricky said some bad things about him. He wants to punish a guy who is obviously not in his league.
So when (or will) floyd make a step towards fighting someone who can challenge him? Should you be content with a career where guys only gave him some minor problems but he easily won because he was waaaaaaaaaay too good for them?
I'm guessing De La Hoya was just some journeyman.
You Bit On That V.D ???
You Had A Short bus Moment.
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So, after reading 4 pages of posts with some very convincing arguments, I have been left with no choice other than to believe Hatton has veeeeeeeeery slim to absolutely no chance of winning this fight. I had posted in a prior thread about how I thought this was a move in the right direction for floyd as far as stepping up his competition. Wow, how wrong I was. Apparently, floyd is only taking this fight because Ricky said some bad things about him. He wants to punish a guy who is obviously not in his league.
So when (or will) floyd make a step towards fighting someone who can challenge him? Should you be content with a career where guys only gave him some minor problems but he easily won because he was waaaaaaaaaay too good for them?
I'm guessing De La Hoya was just some journeyman.
You Bit On That V.D ???
You Had A Short bus Moment.
Not really. Just looking for trouble
Re: 5 Reasons Why Ricky Hatton Can Beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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So, after reading 4 pages of posts with some very convincing arguments, I have been left with no choice other than to believe Hatton has veeeeeeeeery slim to absolutely no chance of winning this fight. I had posted in a prior thread about how I thought this was a move in the right direction for floyd as far as stepping up his competition. Wow, how wrong I was. Apparently, floyd is only taking this fight because Ricky said some bad things about him. He wants to punish a guy who is obviously not in his league.
So when (or will) floyd make a step towards fighting someone who can challenge him? Should you be content with a career where guys only gave him some minor problems but he easily won because he was waaaaaaaaaay too good for them?
I'm guessing De La Hoya was just some journeyman.
You Bit On That V.D ???
You Had A Short bus Moment.
Not really. Just looking for trouble
LOL, Good Scrap With This Thread By all Today(Tonight).Sometimes Trouble Find's Us.Good Night Ya'll.
Re: 5 Reasons Why Ricky Hatton Can Beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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Originally Posted by slk123
So, after reading 4 pages of posts with some very convincing arguments, I have been left with no choice other than to believe Hatton has veeeeeeeeery slim to absolutely no chance of winning this fight. I had posted in a prior thread about how I thought this was a move in the right direction for floyd as far as stepping up his competition. Wow, how wrong I was. Apparently, floyd is only taking this fight because Ricky said some bad things about him. He wants to punish a guy who is obviously not in his league.
So when (or will) floyd make a step towards fighting someone who can challenge him? Should you be content with a career where guys only gave him some minor problems but he easily won because he was waaaaaaaaaay too good for them?
That remains to be seen.
Re: 5 Reasons Why Ricky Hatton Can Beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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So, after reading 4 pages of posts with some very convincing arguments, I have been left with no choice other than to believe Hatton has veeeeeeeeery slim to absolutely no chance of winning this fight. I had posted in a prior thread about how I thought this was a move in the right direction for floyd as far as stepping up his competition. Wow, how wrong I was. Apparently, floyd is only taking this fight because Ricky said some bad things about him. He wants to punish a guy who is obviously not in his league.
So when (or will) floyd make a step towards fighting someone who can challenge him? Should you be content with a career where guys only gave him some minor problems but he easily won because he was waaaaaaaaaay too good for them?
And you have deduced that by reading the last 4 pages :-\
The same people probably gave him no chance against Tzsyu or Castillo ;)
That someone who happens to be way out of Floyds league is 43-0 with the repsective Ring Belt for his division. He is no mug. He is certainly no Baldomir or Gatti. He has a veeeeeeery big chance of winning this fight. ICB will point you to Chavez/Mayweather, fair enough, I'd be inclined to look at the first Castillo fight.
Either way, don't dismiss Hatton as having no chance. He has every chance.
Re: 5 Reasons Why Ricky Hatton Can Beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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So, after reading 4 pages of posts with some very convincing arguments, I have been left with no choice other than to believe Hatton has veeeeeeeeery slim to absolutely no chance of winning this fight. I had posted in a prior thread about how I thought this was a move in the right direction for floyd as far as stepping up his competition. Wow, how wrong I was. Apparently, floyd is only taking this fight because Ricky said some bad things about him. He wants to punish a guy who is obviously not in his league.
So when (or will) floyd make a step towards fighting someone who can challenge him? Should you be content with a career where guys only gave him some minor problems but he easily won because he was waaaaaaaaaay too good for them?
There isn't anyone he is just too damn good.
Re: 5 Reasons Why Ricky Hatton Can Beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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Mayweather always has a crazy lifestyle even during training camp as 24/7 showed, but he trains so hard, and he prepares for everyone from Gatti to Baldomir to Sharmba Mitchell... he will definitely not overlook Hatton. As for dancing with the stars I can't see it hurting his footwork. I mean Ray Robinson used to dance and so did Leonard I believe. I think Mayweather if anything could be a little lighter on his feet and stay on his toes a little more because he was caught flat footed a fetwtimes against Zab and against Oscar as well.
I agree he has been very flatfooted. I noticed that too, especially lately. He relies on his reflexes and handspeed and sort of abandoned his footwork. Could it be that maybe Mayweather is a little past his prime :-X
I don't think so... Roy Jones Jr. was a lot more flat footed at light heavyweight compared to when he was in middleweight or super middleweight. I think the weight makes it harder to move around, and I think he tries to plant his feet to hit harder. Also despite what people are saying I truly believe Mayweather has tried to stay his ground against Baldomir and he tried to tire Oscar out by letting Oscar try to hit him on the ropes. Mayweather still uses a very tight defence not just reflexes, and after watching Hopkins-Wright there is no reason MAyweather at his age with his endurance can't dance for 12 rounds if he has to. However I don't believe thats the case I think he fight in close to Hatton and he will beat Hatton to the punch unless Hatton starts holding him in which case I think Mayweather will fight on the outside and potshot Ricky.
Yeah but if Oscar continued to use his jab he would have won the fight. I dont think theres any question about that so basically Floyd didnt have an answer to Oscars gameplan till Oscar abandoned it. ?
Oscar Delahoya was a very seasoned veteran when he went in the ring with with Mayweather that night, having said that, if Oscar is smart enough to know that if his gameplan was so effective that Mayweather wouldn't have won the fight...... Delahoya wouldn't have abandoned it ;)
As for Hatton............
I think that he will have a much harder time adjusting to Floyd Mayweather's speed, power, technique, defense, etc. etc. than he did adjusting to Luis Collazos (which was a fight that Hatton won by a single point ;)) in Hatton's other fight at 147.
I can't be bothered reading 5 pages of tat soooo here we go.
ODH ran out of gas and that's the only time Floyd looked good in that fight. We don't expect Hatton to gas but he ain't not ODH. 8)
Re: 5 Reasons Why Ricky Hatton Can Beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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Mayweather always has a crazy lifestyle even during training camp as 24/7 showed, but he trains so hard, and he prepares for everyone from Gatti to Baldomir to Sharmba Mitchell... he will definitely not overlook Hatton. As for dancing with the stars I can't see it hurting his footwork. I mean Ray Robinson used to dance and so did Leonard I believe. I think Mayweather if anything could be a little lighter on his feet and stay on his toes a little more because he was caught flat footed a fetwtimes against Zab and against Oscar as well.
I agree he has been very flatfooted. I noticed that too, especially lately. He relies on his reflexes and handspeed and sort of abandoned his footwork. Could it be that maybe Mayweather is a little past his prime :-X
I don't think so... Roy Jones Jr. was a lot more flat footed at light heavyweight compared to when he was in middleweight or super middleweight. I think the weight makes it harder to move around, and I think he tries to plant his feet to hit harder. Also despite what people are saying I truly believe Mayweather has tried to stay his ground against Baldomir and he tried to tire Oscar out by letting Oscar try to hit him on the ropes. Mayweather still uses a very tight defence not just reflexes, and after watching Hopkins-Wright there is no reason MAyweather at his age with his endurance can't dance for 12 rounds if he has to. However I don't believe thats the case I think he fight in close to Hatton and he will beat Hatton to the punch unless Hatton starts holding him in which case I think Mayweather will fight on the outside and potshot Ricky.
Yeah but if Oscar continued to use his jab he would have won the fight. I dont think theres any question about that so basically Floyd didnt have an answer to Oscars gameplan till Oscar abandoned it. ?
Oscar Delahoya was a very seasoned veteran when he went in the ring with with Mayweather that night, having said that, if Oscar is smart enough to know that if his gameplan was so effective that Mayweather wouldn't have won the fight...... Delahoya wouldn't have abandoned it ;)
As for Hatton............
I think that he will have a much harder time adjusting to Floyd Mayweather's speed, power, technique, defense, etc. etc. than he did adjusting to Luis Collazos (which was a fight that Hatton won by a single point ;)) in Hatton's other fight at 147.
I can't be bothered reading 5 pages of tat soooo here we go.
ODH ran out of gas and that's the only time Floyd looked good in that fight. We don't expect Hatton to gas but he ain't not ODH. 8)
Like you just said Hatton is no Oscar the reason why Oscar had success was with the jab and he had the advantage at fighting at a comfortable weightclass where Mayweather had never fought at plus he had height advantage and reach advantage all the things i just mentioned Hatton does not have over Mayweather Hatton is shorter has much shorter reach and at his last outing at Welterweight didn't look that great and Hatton may not gas out but neither will Mayweather he trains just as hard as Hatton sparring 10 minute rounds Mayweather is a gym rat.
Re: 5 Reasons Why Ricky Hatton Can Beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Like you just said Hatton is no Oscar the reason why Oscar had success was with the jab and he had the advantage at fighting at a comfortable weightclass where Mayweather had never fought at plus he had height advantage and reach advantage all the things i just mentioned Hatton does not have over Mayweather Hatton is shorter has much shorter reach and at his last outing at Welterweight didn't look that great and Hatton may not gas out but neither will Mayweather he trains just as hard as Hatton sparring 10 minute rounds Mayweather is a gym rat.
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Just to add my 2cents lol...I don't care what anyone says ODH lost that fight for himself I would not really go and say Floyd beat him...for some reason Oscar was not active enough...just my opp
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Like you just said Hatton is no Oscar the reason why Oscar had success was with the jab and he had the advantage at fighting at a comfortable weightclass where Mayweather had never fought at plus he had height advantage and reach advantage all the things i just mentioned Hatton does not have over Mayweather Hatton is shorter has much shorter reach and at his last outing at Welterweight didn't look that great and Hatton may not gas out but neither will Mayweather he trains just as hard as Hatton sparring 10 minute rounds Mayweather is a gym rat.
Just to add my 2cents lol...I don't care what anyone says ODH lost that fight for himself I would not really go and say Floyd beat him...for some reason Oscar was not active enough...just my opp
[/quote] Well Oscar has been known to be 50-50 in later stages of fights like Vargas and Quartey fights he finished strong in later stages but in the fights with Mosley and Tito fights he faded in later stages just like Mayweather fight Oscar's stamina seems to go up and down quite strange.
Re: 5 Reasons Why Ricky Hatton Can Beat Floyd Mayweather Jr.
This is a great topic with valid points from both sides....but everyone mayweather faces has 5 or more reasons why they can win...but they never do. I give hatton as big a chance as anyone else i guess.
