Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
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Originally Posted by magyar2007
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by magyar2007
Ok he defended his title 20 times over 10 years, yeah the WBO title which you can buy in Walmart WOW, he's fought Manfredo jr, Bika, Lacy, Ashira, Veit, Salem, Mkrtchian Do theses name do anything for you? Fighting contenders off a reality show, he's never even fought for the WBC, IBF, WBA and why because he knows that soon as he does his bullshit record is over. (November 3rd)
He won the IBF title of LACY
As far as i know the IBF belongs to Berrio
It does now but Calzaghe won it of lacy and defended it against bika
Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
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Originally Posted by magyar2007
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
magyar I'm giving you your first CC just because you've stood your ground in these sometimes very harsh boards.
I would also like to say that still no one has adressed the fact that you are 100% correct on most of what you have said. Some of you keep disecting his post and talking about whether or not he held the IBF belt... yeah I'm looking at you bzkfn, or whether or not he is the longest reigning champion in history. But all that crap don't matter.
Yes he is a very skilled boxer but the fact is that this is in fact hist first real test. For a fighter to be over 35 and been a champion for 10 years to meet his first test now is just plain ridiculous. Yes higned sight is 20/20. That means it is better than foresight. That means before, we didn't know but now we know. Jeff Lacy is and was a bumb.
If you think this is Calzaghe's first real test then you are extremely misinformed.
You are either a) lacking a memory of the hype surrounding a number of Calzaghe's previous opponents b) too young to have followed Calzaghe's career or else C) pretty clueless
Take your pick
He has'nt been tested thats the point. he has'nt fought anyone. Don't you get it.
What are you talking about? ::**
Calzaghe has been tested on a number of occasions and each time found a way to win. He has fought and beaten the latest hype for the last 10 years.
Beyond Hopkins and Jones who never even entered the radar while Calzaghe was at SMW there has been noone else worth fighting that he hasnt beaten. And again Calzaghe is fighting the latest big hype!!
Now dont talk to me about "getting it". What is there to get exactly???
Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Tested?
Bika gave him a very rough night!
Robin Reid gave him a bitch of a fight.
Chris Eubank let loose and couldn't beat him.
And if i remember Salem fouled and roughed him up all night and koe still overcame.
I think he ment from a World class opponent Bika and Salem are far from world class and except for overhand right that Salem dropped Calzaghe with he had no real success except for being dirty and ditto for Bika.
Eubank was weight drained and past his best but fair play to Calzaghe because he was inexperienced and he dealt with smart experienced fighter like Eubank well.
And as for Reid i always thought Reid was step below World class he was outboxed by 40+ Sugar Boy Malinga shortly before Calzaghe fight but Calzaghe still done well but i thought the bout was a draw and if Reid wouldn't of had point deducted he would of won the fight on my card and also Calzaghe showed major weakness in Reid fight and it was that he couldn't stop right hands he was caught over and over again with right hands from Reid.
Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by magyar2007
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by magyar2007
Ok he defended his title 20 times over 10 years, yeah the WBO title which you can buy in Walmart WOW, he's fought Manfredo jr, Bika, Lacy, Ashira, Veit, Salem, Mkrtchian Do theses name do anything for you? Fighting contenders off a reality show, he's never even fought for the WBC, IBF, WBA and why because he knows that soon as he does his bullshit record is over. (November 3rd)
He won the IBF title of LACY
As far as i know the IBF belongs to Berrio
Have you JUST started watching boxing? Trivia...what two belts is he looking to add to his collection in his next fight? Has he already won the IBF title? Did politics force him to give the belt up?
the wba and wbc. i can remember darius michazelski holding three belts and having to give two up due to politicking by the alphabet soup boys. once a title is unified it should remain unified.
Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
As crazy as it may sound magyar shares the same opinion of quite a few people here around my office...i don't agree with them or him but it's his view and he's welcome to it. But reguardless of his disputed past or record if he does beat kessler im interested to know what you opinion of calzaghe and hell kessler even would be then ???
Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
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Originally Posted by OwnedByPacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Tested?
Bika gave him a very rough night!
Robin Reid gave him a bitch of a fight.
Chris Eubank let loose and couldn't beat him.
And if i remember Salem fouled and roughed him up all night and koe still overcame.
I think he ment from a World class opponent Bika and Salem are far from world class and except for overhand right that Salem dropped Calzaghe with he had no real success except for being dirty and ditto for Bika.
Eubank was weight drained and past his best but fair play to Calzaghe because he was inexperienced and he dealt with smart experienced fighter like Eubank well.
And as for Reid i always thought Reid was step below World class he was outboxed by 40+ Sugar Boy Malinga shortly before Calzaghe fight but Calzaghe still done well but i thought the bout was a draw and if Reid wouldn't of had point deducted he would of won the fight on my card and also Calzaghe showed major weakness in Reid fight and it was that he couldn't stop right hands he was caught over and over again with right hands from Reid.
I want to see the Clazaghe Reid fight so much but i cannot find it.. if you know were it is mate would appreciate it...and with the whole eubank being weight drained thing he looked arright on the night didin't he....Im wondering if he wasn't "weight drained"...do you think eubank would have taken the win that night?
Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
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Originally Posted by Tins06
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Originally Posted by OwnedByPacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Tested?
Bika gave him a very rough night!
Robin Reid gave him a bitch of a fight.
Chris Eubank let loose and couldn't beat him.
And if i remember Salem fouled and roughed him up all night and koe still overcame.
I think he ment from a World class opponent Bika and Salem are far from world class and except for overhand right that Salem dropped Calzaghe with he had no real success except for being dirty and ditto for Bika.
Eubank was weight drained and past his best but fair play to Calzaghe because he was inexperienced and he dealt with smart experienced fighter like Eubank well.
And as for Reid i always thought Reid was step below World class he was outboxed by 40+ Sugar Boy Malinga shortly before Calzaghe fight but Calzaghe still done well but i thought the bout was a draw and if Reid wouldn't of had point deducted he would of won the fight on my card and also Calzaghe showed major weakness in Reid fight and it was that he couldn't stop right hands he was caught over and over again with right hands from Reid.
I want to see the Clazaghe Reid fight so much but i cannot find it.. if you know were it is mate would appreciate it...and with the whole eubank being weight drained thing he looked arright on the night didin't he....Im wondering if he wasn't "weight drained"...do you think eubank would have taken the win that night?
I'll send you a pm with the Reid vs Calzaghe fight.
And as for Eubank weight drained or not he wouldn't of won because he had been slipping for awhile infact the last time Eubank was in his prime was the 2nd fight with Michael Watson after that he was never the same.
Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
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Originally Posted by Mar
As crazy as it may sound magyar shares the same opinion of quite a few people here around my office...i don't agree with them or him but it's his view and he's welcome to it. But reguardless of his disputed past or record if he does beat kessler im interested to know what you opinion of calzaghe and hell kessler even would be then ???
If he can unify then there is no questions, I would respect him for achieving that. But under no circumstances should he be reckognized for his cheap title defences.
Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
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Originally Posted by magyar2007
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Originally Posted by Mar
As crazy as it may sound magyar shares the same opinion of quite a few people here around my office...i don't agree with them or him but it's his view and he's welcome to it. But reguardless of his disputed past or record if he does beat kessler im interested to know what you opinion of calzaghe and hell kessler even would be then ???
If he can unify then there is no questions, I would respect him for achieving that. But under no circumstances should he be reckognized for his cheap title defences.
what like joe louis
Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
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Originally Posted by Tins06
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Originally Posted by OwnedByPacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Tested?
Bika gave him a very rough night!
Robin Reid gave him a bitch of a fight.
Chris Eubank let loose and couldn't beat him.
And if i remember Salem fouled and roughed him up all night and koe still overcame.
I think he ment from a World class opponent Bika and Salem are far from world class and except for overhand right that Salem dropped Calzaghe with he had no real success except for being dirty and ditto for Bika.
Eubank was weight drained and past his best but fair play to Calzaghe because he was inexperienced and he dealt with smart experienced fighter like Eubank well.
And as for Reid i always thought Reid was step below World class he was outboxed by 40+ Sugar Boy Malinga shortly before Calzaghe fight but Calzaghe still done well but i thought the bout was a draw and if Reid wouldn't of had point deducted he would of won the fight on my card and also Calzaghe showed major weakness in Reid fight and it was that he couldn't stop right hands he was caught over and over again with right hands from Reid.
I want to see the Clazaghe Reid fight so much but i cannot find it.. if you know were it is mate would appreciate it...and with the whole eubank being weight drained thing he looked arright on the night didin't he....Im wondering if he wasn't "weight drained"...do you think eubank would have taken the win that night?
Check your PMS.
Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by magyar2007
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Originally Posted by Mar
As crazy as it may sound magyar shares the same opinion of quite a few people here around my office...i don't agree with them or him but it's his view and he's welcome to it. But reguardless of his disputed past or record if he does beat kessler im interested to know what you opinion of calzaghe and hell kessler even would be then ???
If he can unify then there is no questions, I would respect him for achieving that. But under no circumstances should he be reckognized for his cheap title defences.
what like joe louis
You should'nt even put calzaghe and Joe Louis in same paragraph
Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by magyar2007
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Originally Posted by Mar
As crazy as it may sound magyar shares the same opinion of quite a few people here around my office...i don't agree with them or him but it's his view and he's welcome to it. But reguardless of his disputed past or record if he does beat kessler im interested to know what you opinion of calzaghe and hell kessler even would be then ???
If he can unify then there is no questions, I would respect him for achieving that. But under no circumstances should he be reckognized for his cheap title defences.
what like joe louis
dude your a biggoted puke >:mad Joe Louis is not a premadonna like Low Cal
Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by magyar2007
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Originally Posted by Mar
As crazy as it may sound magyar shares the same opinion of quite a few people here around my office...i don't agree with them or him but it's his view and he's welcome to it. But reguardless of his disputed past or record if he does beat kessler im interested to know what you opinion of calzaghe and hell kessler even would be then ???
If he can unify then there is no questions, I would respect him for achieving that. But under no circumstances should he be reckognized for his cheap title defences.
what like joe louis
dude your a biggoted puke >:mad Joe Louis is not a premadonna like Low Cal
Johnny Davis when he boxed joe louis for the world title had a 3-3-0 record finished with an impressive roster of won 5 (KO 2) + lost 21 (KO 19)
Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
magyar I'm giving you your first CC just because you've stood your ground in these sometimes very harsh boards.
I would also like to say that still no one has adressed the fact that you are 100% correct on most of what you have said. Some of you keep disecting his post and talking about whether or not he held the IBF belt... yeah I'm looking at you bzkfn, or whether or not he is the longest reigning champion in history. But all that crap don't matter.
Yes he is a very skilled boxer but the fact is that this is in fact hist first real test. For a fighter to be over 35 and been a champion for 10 years to meet his first test now is just plain ridiculous. Yes higned sight is 20/20. That means it is better than foresight. That means before, we didn't know but now we know. Jeff Lacy is and was a bumb.
Yeah...Rookie Fan. Appropriate name.
You obviously are unfamiliar with the names that Calzaghe beat & who & what they were when Joe beat them.
Names like Viet, Mkrtchian, Jimenez, Sheika, Reid, or Eubanks were'nt walk overs & when Calzaghe dismantled them they were legit opposition. You can plow through any champion's record & pull out names of fighters that were meager opposition. Be that as it may Joe defended his title on his own turf like many other fighters do...the difference is that when someone is ragging on Joe that's one of the main arguements...but if they trying to defend other fighters...that's alright for them...but not Joe.
Joe has been tested many times over the last 10 years & to say Lacy was a bum just further proves that you either don't know what your'e talking about or your'e just trying to tear into Calzaghe.
Just because Joe blew through everyone he's faced doesn't make them bums.
You need to recognize that...the both of you.
Re: Whats all the hype about calzaghe????
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
magyar I'm giving you your first CC just because you've stood your ground in these sometimes very harsh boards.
I would also like to say that still no one has adressed the fact that you are 100% correct on most of what you have said. Some of you keep disecting his post and talking about whether or not he held the IBF belt... yeah I'm looking at you bzkfn, or whether or not he is the longest reigning champion in history. But all that crap don't matter.
Yes he is a very skilled boxer but the fact is that this is in fact hist first real test. For a fighter to be over 35 and been a champion for 10 years to meet his first test now is just plain ridiculous. Yes higned sight is 20/20. That means it is better than foresight. That means before, we didn't know but now we know. Jeff Lacy is and was a bumb.
Yeah...Rookie Fan. Appropriate name.
You obviously are unfamiliar with the names that Calzaghe beat & who & what they were when Joe beat them.
Names like Viet, Mkrtchian, Jimenez, Sheika, Reid, or Eubanks were'nt walk overs & when Calzaghe dismantled them they were legit opposition. You can plow through any champion's record & pull out names of fighters that were meager opposition. Be that as it may Joe defended his title on his own turf like many other fighters do...the difference is that when someone is ragging on Joe that's one of the main arguements...but if they trying to defend other fighters...that's alright for them...but not Joe.
Joe has been tested many times over the last 10 years & to say Lacy was a bum just further proves that you either don't know what your'e talking about or your'e just trying to tear into Calzaghe.
Just because Joe blew through everyone he's faced doesn't make them bums.
You need to recognize that...the both of you.
Did you know Wacko that Jimenez went distance with Nigel Benn, Roberto Duran, Chris Eubank, and he even knocked down Roberto Duran plus Calzaghe was the first man to stop him ??
