Re: The best fighters alltime in every weight class
Heavyweight - Muhammad Ali
Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield
Light-Heavyweight -Michael Spinks
Super-Middleweight - Joe Calzaghe
Middleweight - Marvin Hagler
Light-Middleweight - Mike McCallum
Welterweight - Sugar Ray Robinson
Light-Welterweight - Aaron Pryor
Lightweight - Pernell Whitaker
Super-Featherweight - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Featherweight - Willie Pep
Super-Bantamweight - Wilfredo Gomez
Bantamweight - Ruben Olivares
Super-Flyweight - Khaosai Galaxy
Flyweight - Jimmy Wilde
Light-Flyweight - Michael Carbajal
Minimumweight - Ricardo Lopez
I've only picked guys that I've seen a fair bit of footage of, hence why Armstrong & Benny Leonard miss out at 135, & with the new divisions, some of these guys wouldn't make it into my all-time Top 75 probably, whilst other divisions have so many choices that if I did it again I might change things.
Re: The best fighters alltime in every weight class
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Heavyweight - Muhammad Ali
Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield
Light-Heavyweight -Michael Spinks
Super-Middleweight - Joe Calzaghe
Middleweight - Marvin Hagler
Light-Middleweight - Mike McCallum
Welterweight - Sugar Ray Robinson
Light-Welterweight - Aaron Pryor
Lightweight - Pernell Whitaker
Super-Featherweight - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Featherweight - Willie Pep
Super-Bantamweight - Wilfredo Gomez
Bantamweight - Ruben Olivares
Super-Flyweight - Khaosai Galaxy
Flyweight - Jimmy Wilde
Light-Flyweight - Michael Carbajal
Minimumweight - Ricardo Lopez
I've only picked guys that I've seen a fair bit of footage of, hence why Armstrong & Benny Leonard miss out at 135, & with the new divisions, some of these guys wouldn't make it into my all-time Top 75 probably, whilst other divisions have so many choices that if I did it again I might change things.
That's a pretty good list. I'm not so sure about McCallum though. Depends what you mean by best I suppose. Personally I think a guy like Hearns or Leonard would have beaten McCallum at JMW, but they didn't stick around long enough in that division. Same sort of thing with Aaron Pryor. I can think of a few guys that's I'd favor over Pryor at that weight, but again they didn't stick around long enough.
That's why I think these kind of "Best at each weight" lists don't mean much, too many better fighters fall through the cracks because they moved through the divisions too quickly.
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Heavyweight - Muhammad Ali
Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield
Light-Heavyweight -Michael Spinks
Super-Middleweight - Joe Calzaghe
Middleweight - Marvin Hagler
Light-Middleweight - Mike McCallum
Welterweight - Sugar Ray Robinson
Light-Welterweight - Aaron Pryor
Lightweight - Pernell Whitaker
Super-Featherweight - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Featherweight - Willie Pep
Super-Bantamweight - Wilfredo Gomez
Bantamweight - Ruben Olivares
Super-Flyweight - Khaosai Galaxy
Flyweight - Jimmy Wilde
Light-Flyweight - Michael Carbajal
Minimumweight - Ricardo Lopez
I've only picked guys that I've seen a fair bit of footage of, hence why Armstrong & Benny Leonard miss out at 135, & with the new divisions, some of these guys wouldn't make it into my all-time Top 75 probably, whilst other divisions have so many choices that if I did it again I might change things.
That's a pretty good list. I'm not so sure about McCallum though. Depends what you mean by best I suppose. Personally I think a guy like Hearns or Leonard would have beaten McCallum at JMW, but they didn't stick around long enough in that division. Same sort of thing with Aaron Pryor. I can think of a few guys that's I'd favor over Pryor at that weight, but again they didn't stick around long enough.
That's why I think these kind of "Best at each weight" lists don't mean much, too many better fighters fall through the cracks because they moved through the divisions too quickly.
Pryor I think was unbeatable at that weight at the time, although a fight between him & Duran would've been class & the aren't many I can see beating him there, maybe slick boxers. But like you say, some guys just move through divisions too quickly. I thought about putting Hearns at LMW, but he just wasn't there long enough & largely fought welters moving up. Similarly, Roy Jones is the best fighter to have fought at SMW for me, but he wasn't there long enough & Calzaghe is the only elite fighter to have really made the division his own
Re: The best fighters alltime in every weight class
Well good list dude i only have a few different ones from you rep for list. I just think Larry Holmes could of beaten any heavy including Ali but his resume is not as good so i can see why people think i was wrong. Then there is the Mosley at lw yet again think he could beat anyone at the weight including Duran, Whitcker and Maywather yet again comp not best. Then this i know most wont agree with i though Leonard could beat anyone at welter and his wins over Duran, Benitez and Hearns i rate very high even higher then all the wins that Robinson had just me though.
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Heavyweight - Muhammad Ali
Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield
Light-Heavyweight -Michael Spinks
Super-Middleweight - Joe Calzaghe
Middleweight - Marvin Hagler
Light-Middleweight - Mike McCallum
Welterweight - Sugar Ray Robinson
Light-Welterweight - Aaron Pryor
Lightweight - Pernell Whitaker
Super-Featherweight - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Featherweight - Willie Pep
Super-Bantamweight - Wilfredo Gomez
Bantamweight - Ruben Olivares
Super-Flyweight - Khaosai Galaxy
Flyweight - Jimmy Wilde
Light-Flyweight - Michael Carbajal
Minimumweight - Ricardo Lopez
I've only picked guys that I've seen a fair bit of footage of, hence why Armstrong & Benny Leonard miss out at 135, & with the new divisions, some of these guys wouldn't make it into my all-time Top 75 probably, whilst other divisions have so many choices that if I did it again I might change things.
That's a pretty good list. I'm not so sure about McCallum though. Depends what you mean by best I suppose. Personally I think a guy like Hearns or Leonard would have beaten McCallum at JMW, but they didn't stick around long enough in that division. Same sort of thing with Aaron Pryor. I can think of a few guys that's I'd favor over Pryor at that weight, but again they didn't stick around long enough.
That's why I think these kind of "Best at each weight" lists don't mean much, too many better fighters fall through the cracks because they moved through the divisions too quickly.
Pryor I think was unbeatable at that weight at the time, although a fight between him & Duran would've been class & the aren't many I can see beating him there, maybe slick boxers. But like you say, some guys just move through divisions too quickly. I thought about putting Hearns at LMW, but he just wasn't there long enough & largely fought welters moving up. Similarly, Roy Jones is the best fighter to have fought at SMW for me, but he wasn't there long enough & Calzaghe is the only elite fighter to have really made the division his own
At the time, sure, go with Pryor, but since we are talking all time then I imagine guys like Mosely, Duran, Mayweather Jr., delaHoya, probably Benitez all are the equal of Pryor at JWW.
And also I agree with Mr140 on Leonard at WW. I don't think he gives up anything to Robinson at welterweight when it comes to boxing ability and toughness.
Re: The best fighters alltime in every weight class
201+ Heavyweight- Muhammad Ali
200 Cruiserweight- Evander Holyfield
175 Light Heavyweight- Gene Tunney
168 Super Middleweight- Joe Cazaghe
160 Middleweight- Marvin Hagler
154 Light Middleweight- Terry Norris
147 Welterweight- Ray Robinson
140 Light Welterweight- Aaron Pryor
135 Lightweight- Roberto Duran
130 Super Featherweight- Floyd Mayweather
126 Featherweight- Salvador Sanchez
122 Super Bantamweight- Wilfredo Sanchez
118 Bantamweight- Ruben Olivares
115 Super Flyweight- Khaosai Galaxy
112 Flyweight- Jimmy Wilde
The other two divisions I don't follow.
Re: The all-time best fighters in every weight class
Heavyweight - Muhammad Ali
Cruiserweight - Evander Holyfield
Light Heavyweight - Archie Moore
Supper Middleweight - Joe Calzaghe
Middleweight - Marvin Hagler
Junior Middleweight - Thomas Hearns
Welterweight - Sugar Ray Robinson
Junior Welterweight - Julio Cesar Chavez
Lightweight - Roberto Duran
Junior Lightweight - Alexis Arguello
Featherweight - Willie Pep
Junior Featherweight - Wilfredo Gomez
Bantamweight - Carlos Zarate
Junior Bantamweight - Khaosai Galaxy
Flyweight - Jimmy Wilde
Junior Flyweight - Michael Carbajal
Minimumweight - Ricardo Lopez
Other fighters that I wanted to include in the list:
Joe Louis
Ezzard Charles
Carlos Monzon
Harry Greb
Henry Armstrong
Sugar Ray Leonard
Aaron Pryor
Miguel Canto
Eder Jofre
Re: The all-time best fighters in every weight class
Heavyweight - Joe Louis
Cruiserweight - Rocky Marciano
Light Heavyweight - Ezzard Charles
Super Middleweight - Sam Langford
Middleweight - Marvin Hagler
Junior Middleweight - Thomas Hearns
Welterweight - Sugar Ray Robinson
Junior Welterweight - Julio Cesar Chavez
Lightweight - Roberto Duran
Junior Lightweight - Alexis Arguello
Featherweight - Willie Pep
Junior Featherweight - Wilfredo Gomez
Bantamweight - Carlos Zarate
Junior Bantamweight - Khaosai Galaxy
Flyweight - Jimmy Wilde
Junior Flyweight - Michael Carbajal
Minimumweight - Ricardo Lopez
